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N. American Bighorn grand slam questions
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Contributors to this thread:
coonazz 20-Nov-15
Bigdan 20-Nov-15
Medicinemann 20-Nov-15
MathewsMan 20-Nov-15
Yellowjacket 20-Nov-15
Medicinemann 20-Nov-15
Heat 20-Nov-15
Bou'bound 20-Nov-15
coonazz 20-Nov-15
Heat 20-Nov-15
kota-man 20-Nov-15
Mark Watkins 20-Nov-15
Jim in PA 20-Nov-15
MathewsMan 20-Nov-15
kota-man 20-Nov-15
BULELK1 21-Nov-15
Medicinemann 21-Nov-15
Stekewood 21-Nov-15
Steve H. 21-Nov-15
Bou'bound 21-Nov-15
Medicinemann 21-Nov-15
Bou'bound 21-Nov-15
Huntcell 21-Nov-15
Mark Watkins 21-Nov-15
TD 21-Nov-15
bowjack 26-Nov-15
Genesis 26-Nov-15
From: coonazz
20-Nov-15
Does anyone know of anyone having completed the North American Archery - Bighorn Grand Slam - 2 times? (Rocky Mountain, Stones, Desert, & Dall)

I've got a buddy of mine working on his 2nd slam. I'm sure he is in pretty elite company right now as it is. Not sure if this has ever been done before and if it has, I'm sure there's no more than a handful of people to have completed this.

Anyone know where/how I could research this further?

From: Bigdan
20-Nov-15
Jim Ryan has done it and I think Tom Hoffman has to.

From: Medicinemann
20-Nov-15

From: MathewsMan
20-Nov-15
Several have done it with both firearm and archery as well.

There are a few rifle hunters that have done it, 8, 10 or more times also.

I'd be happy just to get to 1/2 with a Desert Ram.

From: Yellowjacket
20-Nov-15
I think Jack Frost had probably done it more than once.

Ditto what Mathewsman said on the desert.

From: Medicinemann
20-Nov-15

From: Heat
20-Nov-15
Quite an acheivement for sure. I don't know any. Just an FYI, the Dall and Stone are generally not considered "bighorn" sheep.

From: Bou'bound
20-Nov-15
has anyone does it faster than Jake. I'll bet never has and never will. How many days Jake?

From: coonazz
20-Nov-15
Heat - Stones' and Dalls are both thinhorns - right?

From: Heat
20-Nov-15
Yes sir, that is how I hear them distinguished. The Ovis canadensis are the big horned species and the Ovis dalli are thin horned species.

From: kota-man
20-Nov-15
Yes, SEVERAL guys have multiple archery slams on sheep. I think Tom Hoffman is working on #4.

Grand Slam Club posts this info in their monthly magazine.

Grant makes a good point. I don't know of anyone else but Jake that has done them all in less than a year.

coonazz...Correct terminology is either "Grand Slam" of North American Sheep or FNAWS - Four North American Wild Sheep depending on which organization is recognizing your achievement.

To further complicate your Bighorn vs. Thinhorn you can add Fannin Sheep which are classified as Stone sheep, but actually closer to Dall sheep in DNA. The Bighorns are California, Rocky Mountain and Desert. I'd like to kill all six some day. For FNAWs or the Grand Slam, you need two of the three Bighorns and a Dall and a Stone (or Fannin). Confused yet? :)

From: Mark Watkins
20-Nov-15
As I remember.....Jake did it in like 3 days including travel!

Mark

From: Jim in PA
20-Nov-15
Kota, You forgot a Fannin is a Stone but sometimes you can call it a Dall.

From: MathewsMan
20-Nov-15
There are also a quite a few that have done a Grand Slam in a single year. I think Sara B. did hers in one season.

Every now and then there is an update about a 8 or 10 year old kid that has taken there slam as well with a rifle.

From: kota-man
20-Nov-15
Don't get me started on the Fannin thing Jim...;)

Archery Sheep Slams in one year HAVE to be few and far between...

Jake - If I haven't told you so before, coming from a guy that is 2 for 5 on sheep, getting all three in one year with a bow is an amazing accomplishment.

From: BULELK1
21-Nov-15
When Jake was getting his bow-Rams that fall was one of the greatest threads on the Bowsite ever!!

Good luck, Robb

From: Medicinemann
21-Nov-15
My biggest regret was not documenting the first ram, (my Desert Bighorn) on Bowsite. I shot him on Super Bowl Sunday the year that the Giants ruined the Patiots bid for a perfect season....2008.

It only takes a few minutes to break out the phone, to make the call every night....but after chasing sheep around on the mountain all day, sometimes I was so caught up in hunt, or so tired, that I would almost forget to make the daily call. Additionally, sometimes the satellite phone would frustrate me by dropping the call, and I would have to retry a couple times before finally getting the daily update recorded (and sometimes I didn't know IF it got recorded).....and Pat's recording machine only records for about 2-3 minutes, so the call messages had to be compressed. I think that the call times varied as a function of the many other calls that Pat had received on a given day (solicitations for campaign contributions from Hiliary Clinton, interview requests from Rachel Maddow, etc)....so it was never the same.

For those of you that are considering a really interesting hunt, you might want to consider contacting Pat about doing a feature hunt. Obviously, he can't accomodate ALL requests....but I speak from experience when I tell you that being able to click on the daily reports and hear my own messages from the Polar Bear hunt, and the sheep hunts brings back memories....some of which I had forgotten.

From: Stekewood
21-Nov-15
Those were some great hunts Jake. Loved following along on those calls.

From: Steve H.
21-Nov-15
Fannin sheep are a color variation of Dall. They are not Stone sheep no matter what these organizations let you "pick". Reminds me of the Bruce/Kaitlin Jenner and the Rachél Dz@$%#@@ crap in the news. Genetics aren't a 'choice'......

From: Bou'bound
21-Nov-15
Let's try again. How many days from kill one to kill 4 jake

From: Medicinemann
21-Nov-15
The (first) Desert Bighorn was killed on 02/04/2008. The Dall was killed on 07/15/2008. The bighorn was killed in early August.....about the 8th or the 9th.... The (fourth) Stones Ram was killed on 08/26/2008. These dates are from memory, so I could be off by a couple days either way. But that will get you close.....

From: Bou'bound
21-Nov-15
Wow. Less tHan 7 months with a bow. Unreal. Number one hunting Accomplishment of all time on his site as far as I see de.

From: Huntcell
21-Nov-15
So with not able to fly and hunt on the same day for some locations. whats the least time to take all four? Four days The new benchmark the first to do The Four in four!!!

From: Mark Watkins
21-Nov-15
Jake, great info, memories and thanks for taking us along on those journeys!!!!

And if I remember correctly, you killed your mountain goat somewhere in that mix didn't you?

Mark

From: TD
21-Nov-15
Yeah, fine... but how many have taken the double turkey slam in one year??? heheheheh....

That was a great year on bowsite, pretty amazing. Jake even drew the bighorn tag with barely enough points to even be in the draw if I recall, a sliver of a chance to do that. The planets just aligned.....

"dates are from memory..." I think I'd have em tattooed on me somewhere wid li'l sheep pictures and I don't even do tats.... =D

I think bowsite's tthomas, Mr Foss has a couple archery slams? (small "s" for the litigious out there...) or is very close. A bucket of sheep anyway for sure.

From: bowjack
26-Nov-15
TD, I'm thinking Tom has at least three archery sheep slams.

From: Genesis
26-Nov-15
3 yrs ago Tthomas needed a Dall for his third......He had so much fun stacking up Deserts and helping his sons get their archery slam who knows where Team Foss sits.....it's alot of sheep for sure

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