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Contributors to this thread:
wildwilderness 10-Mar-16
ben h 10-Mar-16
lineman21 10-Mar-16
GotBowAz 10-Mar-16
Kurt 10-Mar-16
Dikndirt 10-Mar-16
Bowboy 10-Mar-16
wildwilderness 11-Mar-16
TD 12-Mar-16
pdk25 13-Mar-16
jsthuntn 14-Mar-16
Forest bows 15-Mar-16
TD 16-Mar-16
pdk25 16-Mar-16
GotBowAz 16-Mar-16
pdk25 17-Mar-16
drycreek 17-Mar-16
Beendare 17-Mar-16
TD 17-Mar-16
Mark Watkins 18-Mar-16
10-Mar-16
Looks like UT has hit my cc for a NR bear tag!

Anyone been able to hunt the Book Cliffs for bear in the past? Any tips on the best way to bait in UT?

Looking at the Utah regs there are some baiting rules like no metal or plastic.

From: ben h
10-Mar-16
I don't know much about the regulations nor have I baited, but it looks like it could be a lot of work especially if you're far from a road. A buddy of mine had an idea of buying an old nearly dead horse (which cost next to nothing) and walk it in and shoot it for bait. I know that's not for everybody, but he grew up on a farm. Not sure if I'd do it; just an idea.

From: lineman21
10-Mar-16
^^^^hahaha!

From: GotBowAz
10-Mar-16
Reminds me of a story I heard years ago when baiting bear was legal here. I knew an old guy that would go to the stock auction and buy an old mule or donkey. He would take it to his bear area and tie it to a tree then walk out of sight. Once out of sight the mule would bay crying it's head off. From what the old man said it brought bears in from miles away. after killing a bear he'd shoot the mule and leave it.

In his words, the do-gooders didn't like that much.LOL

From: Kurt
10-Mar-16
I was camped out deer hunting......sleeping in the canopy of the pickup in the Bookcliffs years ago. I'd left my cooler out on the ground overnight and since it was the end of the hunt, I was down to a bit of ice, one can of pop, a little orange juice, a couple of eggs and bread.. While in the process of putting on my pants and getting up, I heard a bear sniffing my cooler. I'd already opened the rear hatch on the canopy but the tailgate was closed on the old Ford. Since I wanted those eggs and orange juice for breakfast I yelled "GET OUT OF HERE!" to the bear. Well, she did not take kindly to that and ran around the back side of my truck and stuck her head in.....about 12" from my face. She had been eating currant berries by the smell of her breath and was rather pissed. I let out another yell right into her face and she dropped down for a second, allowing me to snatch my canopy hatch door closed. She then spent a minute trying to break in, with me yelling at her, armed with a short handled shovel as my bow was in the cab. She finally walked off into the dark and after a bit I got the courage up to open the hatch door and tailgate and climb out. It was barely getting light....and there she was in the oak brush about 20' away, popping her teeth and drooling. I threw the cooler and my lawn chair into the truck, slammed the tailgate shut and raced into the cab. Once I started the engine and turned on the lights I saw the reason she was upset........a small black cub was a little ways up a giant aspen tree right in front of me! She was a good mom and going to protect her offspring from me! To this day I am convinced if I'd have had the tailgate down she'd have climbed in or pulled me out and mauled me when I first yelled at her!

So if you want to go bear hunting in the Bookcliffs, don't yell at a sow with cubs. They don't appreciate it! Good luck!

From: Dikndirt
10-Mar-16
Utah has a lot of red tape to get through to get a C.O.R. [certificate of registration]I would plan on a few weeks of paperwork through the BLM and nearest DWR office to get all the hoops jumped through. I dont know why they make it so difficult but they do. Send me a PM and I can tell you what some of the snags are and help you through the process. J.F.

From: Bowboy
10-Mar-16
I'd send BB a private message. He knows that area well.

11-Mar-16
Here are the Utah rules:

Bait may not be contained in—nor can it include—any metal, glass, porcelain, plastic, cardboard or paper. The bait station must be marked with a sign provided by the Division and posted within 10 feet of the bait...

You may use nongame fish as bait, except fish listed as prohibited in Utah Admin. Rule R657-13. You may not use any other species of protected wildlife as bait. You may use domestic livestock or its parts—including processed meat scraps—as bait, as long as you have a certificate of brand inspection, bill of sale or other proof of ownership or legal possession.

Sound like if you own the horse/mule it would be legal to use as bait? Don't know if it would be worth hauling one out there...

From: TD
12-Mar-16
I know this guy in Utah that used an old dead horse as bear bait once..... heheheheheh...... great story, I think I might have it around here somewhere....

From: pdk25
13-Mar-16
Truly some of the most disturbing and pathetic stuff that I have seen on an Archery forum, GotBowAz. Congrats

From: jsthuntn
14-Mar-16
Hey Wild looks like I will be out there with you! I'm stoked! I have been waiting way to long! It's about time we get to have a bait only season in Utah. I spent a few years building points waiting for the changes so I didn't have to contend with the hounds. I thought for sure that I would have a tag last year, but with the DWR screwing up the tag numbers, it didn't work out. I sure hope I can make the wait worth it!

From: Forest bows
15-Mar-16
Shoot the horse on a water hole! $$$

From: TD
16-Mar-16
I finally found the file I had saved, BB posted this here years ago.... baiting bears in Utah.... with a horse. One of the funniest posts I've ever read, so I copied and saved it. He was kind enough to allow me re-post it here. Thanks BB.

"Years ago in Utah we had an unlimited spring bear hunt. For many years a group of us (6 - 8 guys) would hunt bear every year. (Pahaska was one of that group). We sure had a great group and so many fun times.

Anyway, one year late in the season, a good friend of mine named Clair and I decided to go back and spend the balance of the season. I have a friend who owns a dairy farm, and he gives me his dead critters at that time of year. This particular year, none died and we were really in bad need of a dead critter.

Well Doug (the guy with the dairy farm) knows a ton of people and said he knew an old horse trader who he said might give us one of his horses. Late on the eve of our departure, my buddy Doug calls and said he had found a horse for us. He went on to say that this guy goes to coffee every morning at 5 am, and if we wanted it we had to be there at 4:45 am SHARP! I assured him we would be there, and we were. The guy says, pull your truck over by that correl and I will load him in for you. I go jump in my truck and try to start it, but it wouldn't turn over. I hear the guy yelling get that over here. The next thing I know is here comes this guy with a front end loader full of this dead horse. I wanted to move my stuff, but he says I don't have time for that and dumps the horse on top of all our gear. He asks if my truck is stick and I say yes, and he say jump in and turn the key on and put it in gear. So he push started us and we were on our way. There was not place to get my truck fixed at such an early hour, so we decided to drive to Price Utah and get it taken care of there. We hit Price at 8:00 am, purchased a new cable as I knew that was the problem. We drove to a steep side street, put on the new cable and tried to start it, but nothing. So we coasted down the hill, got it started and went back to the auto store and ask where we might get it fixed.

At 1:30 in the afternoon we were on our way again. But the horse wasn't fairing so well. It was the second week in June, and the temperature was near 100 degrees. Four more hours (in that temperature) crossing the desert by Green River, Utah did not help.

By the time we got to camp it was 7:00 PM and we had a horse whose legs were now about 12 inches long if you get the drift. If you didn't, then it won't be long until you do. I backed up to a tree, hooked a chain around the tree and around the leg of the horse and pulled forward, unloading the horse onto the ground. It was now time to skin it and quarter it.

Seems as my whole life I have always been a screw around. This time was no exception. The poor old horse lay on the ground, looking to be 3 times the size he was, barely 14 hours before. I squatted down much like a man does to do his thing in the woods. I was just one arms length from the horse and had my sharp Puma floding knife, open and in front of me. Carefully, I lightly touched the sharp blade against the ever so taut stomach of the bloated beast. Clair, standing back, says "You better be careful buddy!" I replied, You just have to know what your doing." Suddenly and without notice I remember hearing a big boom, and I was knocked into a backwards somersault. My mouth and eyes were full of that horses last meal. As I gagged and vomited I could hear Clair laughing in the back ground and when gaining some composure, I would hear him say "Oh Bill!, Oh Bill!" and then break back into laughter until he again would exclaim the same double phrase, two word sentence. My entire front, and the back of my truck was sprayed and plastered gut green. With in 3 or 4 minutes I too was laughing and vomiting intermittently. I have never seen a guy laugh harder in my life than did Clair. He maintains to this day, it was one of his very favorite days on earth, and the hardest laugh of his life. He said I felt so sorry for you, but it was just so funny I could not help laughing. But he says he was torn between the humor and my suffering, which by the way, I did! Clair still claims if we had a video of that event, we could retire from its royalties. When he tells the story, and people ask, " Did it get in his mouth?", He proudly says, "Hell, it puffed his cheeks!"

Have a great bowhunt, and always be careful with a knife.

BB"

From: pdk25
16-Mar-16
That is a pretty funny story.

From: GotBowAz
16-Mar-16
pdk25, Im sorry I didn't mean to offend, I was just passing on a story told to me by an 80 year old man 30 years ago. Like it or not, true or not, I had nothing to do with it.

From: pdk25
17-Mar-16
No worries. I am not offended. As you said, just a story.

From: drycreek
17-Mar-16
TD, that is a Bowsite classic I'm glad you found. Even though I knew what was gonna happen, that's funny as hell.

From: Beendare
17-Mar-16
Wow great story TD/ BB

I hunted the book cliffs a little over 10 years ago for elk...awesome hunt....and saw a few bears but nothing big.

From: TD
17-Mar-16
Every time I read it.... always have this question in the back of my mind.

I wonder what the mechanic thought... working on this truck with a whole dead horse in the back.....

From: Mark Watkins
18-Mar-16
Great story Kurt!!!! I'm still laughing!!!

Mark

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