Veteran Broadhead
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There is a new broadhead on the market called the Veteran. It's supposed to be unlike anything we have seen before. I wanted to get some thoughts from you guys on it.
I'm going on an Axis / Fallow hunt this weekend and I'm going to test it out.
The broadhead blades are locked in at 1.25" and deploy at 2.75". They are a no fail design due to the fact that even if they don't deploy you still have the 1.25" cut.
The red collar is on a 4lb spring. Once it penetrates the cavity of the animal the collar is pushed back releasing the blades. The blades are on a 10lb spring that forces them open.
The basis of the design is so that the blades open once they pass the first wall of the animal, go full width in the hear and lungs and then compress to 2" when they exit the animal thus reducing resistance and deflection from ribs and bone. The chisel tip is titanium and the blades are sharp enough to shave with.
Needless to say. It's an interesting design and I'm excited to see how it does on some Texas exotics this weekend.
So it will only deploy if going through bone. Guts or vertical slide through ribs will not deploy assuming shaving sharp. Front edge of the blades look like they'd hang up a little on heavy bone. Chisel tip would be nicer with a steeper angle. Just being critical, let us know how it goes.
The 10 lb spring is inside the ferrule right behind the tip?
I would have to question when an arrow passes through the animal with 60ft lb ke wether the blades would ever expand to full width. If it stays at 1 1/4 I'd stick with a vpa like coc head. If there is enough spring pressure to keep blades open it would look like penetration would be hindered with that poor blade angle. I like the concept and if it would deploy and maintain a good blade angle with enough spring pressure to stay deployed I might would try it. I am very skeptical. Post up your results, good or bad, please.
If the blades would have stopped rotation at 2 inches to allow at least some kind of angle to it I might have given it a try. But to rotate and sweep the opposite direction once fully opened is countering arrow direction be it internal or not. Even the old 125gn Vortex at 2 3/4 had some what of a sweep to it.
Will say it looks like a great head for turkeys though.
So the blades deploy as the broadhead is entering the animal.
The blade spring is located inside of the ferrule. Currently this broadhead has an aluminum ferrule but there are both titanium and stainless steel ferrules in the works.
The blade spring stops its outward pressure at full expansion but to keep the broadhead from being considered being barbed, the blades have the opportunity to fully sweep open.
The blades will open to full width with a bow shooting 45lbs.
Guessing you are either involved or very close to those involved in producing it?
So it sounds like the ferrule is hollow?
That could be a finger-biter when you are "closing" the blades...
A bad solution looking for a problem, and obviously a barbed broadhead.
Design appears to potentially increase morbidity and infection in non lethal (greater than 48 hrs) hits.
Coyotes should love it....
Honestly it looks like a terrible design. 1.25" wide losses all the good flight characteristics of an expandable. 2.75" is way more cutting diameter than need and the hyper extended blades look like they pretty much stop penetration if the steep tip didn't do so first. It looks like changing blades would be a pain.
However on the other hand bigger is always better and two springs are better than one and it looks very high tech so you should do well selling to todays young, must haves, consumer based success, hunters.
Only debatable by the guy trying to sell them. The back blade angle to the shaft is less than 90 deg.
When it comes to broadheads. Every year it's fun to read such assumptions and application of individual experience applied to new designs and their perceived potential benefits and flaws. How about we listen to someone who has actually bought, checked accuracy/function/blade sharpness, was satisfied and went hunting. And then actually killed a deer with them. Would that interest anyone here? In his own words... This is his hunt results and assessment of The Veteran look forward to where this conversation goes with this result. David's quote: "I shot her at thirty yards and it was a complete pass through and a great blood trail and only went 25 to 30 yards and dropped and it's ready to shoot another one No problem and they ain't no joke it tore her shoulder up it was a huge entrance and exit hole I wish I would of took some pics of that and I shot her quartering to me and it went straight through the shoulder blade like it wasn't even there and went straight though her other side and kept going."
"Only debatable by the guy trying to sell them. The back blade angle to the shaft is less than 90 deg."
Again, here is a ramcat that is not considered barbed b/c the blades hinge.
Being as this is temporarily fixed I don't know how the law would perceive it, but after deployment it is no longer barbed. Granted it gets deployed, this would give way to debate.
VIP, great story, but that is hands down the cleanest doe I've ever seen after a pass thru. I guess the bow is hiding the gaping 2.75" hole?
When it comes to broadheads. Every year it's fun to read such assumptions and application of individual experience applied to new designs and their perceived potential benefits and flaws. How about we listen to someone who has actually bought, checked accuracy/function/blade sharpness, was satisfied and went hunting. And then actually killed a deer with them. Would that interest anyone here? In his own words... This is his hunt results and assessment of The Veteran look forward to where this conversation goes with this result. David's quote: "I shot her at thirty yards and it was a complete pass through and a great blood trail and only went 25 to 30 yards and dropped and it's ready to shoot another one No problem and they ain't no joke it tore her shoulder up it was a huge entrance and exit hole I wish I would of took some pics of that and I shot her quartering to me and it went straight through the shoulder blade like it wasn't even there and went straight though her other side and kept going."
""VIP, great story, but that is hands down the cleanest doe I've ever seen after a pass thru. I guess the bow is hiding the gaping 2.75" hole?""
I'd ask the same thing! LMAO!! Tore her up!!!
Not even a bloody tongue!
The truck hasn't even left the scene yet!
Should have thrown an axe through it first to make it look like a crazy hole.
Hahaha, Apauls, too good. Thanks for a good morning laugh!