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DIYHuntingMaps 27-Sep-16
DIYHuntingMaps 27-Sep-16
DIYHuntingMaps 27-Sep-16
WapitiBob 27-Sep-16
DIYHuntingMaps 27-Sep-16
APauls 27-Sep-16
DIYHuntingMaps 27-Sep-16
AwHunt73 27-Sep-16
DIYHuntingMaps 27-Sep-16
APauls 27-Sep-16
DIYHuntingMaps 27-Sep-16
WapitiBob 27-Sep-16
Vonfoust 28-Sep-16
Pete In Fairbanks 28-Sep-16
yooper89 28-Sep-16
AwHunt73 28-Sep-16
APauls 28-Sep-16
Amoebus 28-Sep-16
Ermine 28-Sep-16
WapitiBob 28-Sep-16
Too Many Bows Bob 28-Sep-16
DIYHuntingMaps 28-Sep-16
DIYHuntingMaps 28-Sep-16
Amoebus 28-Sep-16
huntmaster 28-Sep-16
27-Sep-16

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You guys may have noticed I haven't been on here much lately, and it's because I decided to build an app. I was sick of carrying my Phone and GPS around, so I built an app that works On or Offline and completely replaces my GPS. With a little help from some GoalZero Solar Panels and Power Packs, I spent 10 days back-country testing the app without any problems.

If you want to try it free go to DIYHuntingMaps.com/maps and sign up for a free account. You can then go download the free App from Google Play or iTunes Store:

Click Here for Android Click Here for iOS

Here is a bit more about the App:

Features of The App

If you weren't aware, your phone's GPS works whether you have Cell Service or Not. We've made it easier than ever to pre-download areas you want Offline. Marking Waypoints can now include descriptions and full names with the use of the keyboard you're used too. Not to mention you can Sync your Waypoints to our cloud and get access to them on the online map server. This means you can print maps with your waypoints. Here are a few more features.
  • GPS Location and Tracking
  • Waypoint Management
  • Create Waypoint From Coordinates
  • High Resolution 20 Ft Topographic Maps
  • Access to Hybrid and Satellite Imagery when Online
  • Information Like Speed, Elevation and Location
  • Simple Double Taps to get Distance or Mark Waypoints
  • Access to Legend to Help You Better Access Public Lands
  • Unlimited Printable Maps from the Online Server with Waypoints
  • It's a simple easy to use Platform

If you have any questions about it, just ask. I'll post some screenshots as well.

27-Sep-16

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Here are some screenshots. It works just like your GPS, with location and position tracking. You just get the added benefit of our custom Topographic Basemap. It includes closed and deccomissioned roads, trails, POI's. Everything on our Paper and GPS chips. Just down to 20ft topolines. You can also use the info bar to get information like elevation, heading, speed and position. Waypoint management is as simple as it gets. Your waypoints also sync to the cloud to print maps with your locations on them.

27-Sep-16

DIYHuntingMaps's embedded Photo
DIYHuntingMaps's embedded Photo
To get access to the maps offline, you just go pre-download areas before you go out. You can manually switch to offline maps, or if the app detects you losing signal, it'll switch over automatically.

With our app, there is no trying to figure out which tiles you need. Just zoom/pan/pinch and get all the area you need inside of the box and we'll make a custom download for you. After the server is ready, it'll tell you how big the file is and let you download it. It's that simple. Everything inside the box will be downloaded at all zoom levels. You'll never even know whether you're running through the internet or from your device. There is no loss of quality in offline mode.

From: WapitiBob
27-Sep-16
How do you get the maps to the phone? I'm not picking tiles with my finger for three hours.

27-Sep-16
WapitiBob,

You just create an account, then download the App.

Inside the app, you go to Offline Maps > Add New Area

You make a name for it, zoom into the area you want and hit download. It'll tell you how big the download will be. If it looks good, you hit download and the app will download and extract the tiles. Depending on how big the area you want is. It could take anywhere from 20 seconds, to a few minutes. My entire hunting area was 140 mb and took about 50 seconds to download.

Once you have Offline Areas, the app will automatically switch from the server or from your installed tiles based on reception. It's really simple.

From: APauls
27-Sep-16
3 questions:

1) Is the satellite imagery from google maps or some other source? (I find google maps to be superior to other sources)

2) Can you mark waypoints with pictures inside the data? So ie: I have a waypoint and I click on the pic I used to see what was there? ex) a nice scrape in the middle of the bush I click on the waypoint and see the pic of a still steaming scrape :)

3) Are you paying for satellite imagery downloads, topo downloads, nothing or both or other?

27-Sep-16
APauls,

1) The satellite imagery is from the USGS NAIP program. Although Google is superior, they also will not let you pre-tile and download their tiles no matter what you pay. I am using USGS served from my server because I plan to incorporate Offline Satellite in the near future. The only way to do this is to serve the imagery myself.

2) That is currently not a feature, although I am familiar with the idea. It's on my future features lists. The app is still a work in process, but just like everything else, I find it better to evolve as I get feedback.

3) You're paying to even access the app. The main feature is the Topo maps though. These aren't ripped off free topo maps that every other company uses. These are high detailed, accurate maps made by myself (i.e. DIY Hunting Maps). All our topo maps are custom made and data vetted for accuracy. It's the only place you're going to find Closed and Decommissioned Roads inside the National Forest, We have all the trailheads, campgrounds, bathrooms, and other POI's, you have all public land boundaries, trails are broken out by designated use (i.e. atv, motorcycle, pack-saddle, hiking, etc), 20 ft topolines displayed over a shaded relief, county and BLM roads marked and a bunch of other things.

It's the same data and symbology I use in our Paper Maps and GPS chips. It's just accessed through the app that lets you use your phone identical to your GPS (well not identical if you can picture waypoints currently :)). The subscription then lets you go online and view the same information along with the ability to print unlimited high resolution maps from your home printer.

Hope that answers your questions.

Jordan

From: AwHunt73
27-Sep-16
Does the app track your path for afterwards? I am currently using Trimble but don't think it is current. Also does it show private property boundaries?

27-Sep-16
AwHunt73,

I'm working on the "Tracking" feature as we speak. It'll show a bread crumb trail of where you've been as well as daily stats for distance. I'm not sure on that release, but it shouldn't be too much longer. Right now it'll just show your current location as well as move the map as you move.

Yes it does show private property boundaries. Anything White is private, anything in color is some sort of public lands. In the menu there is a full Legend that will give you a description for what each color means.

Jordan

From: APauls
27-Sep-16
Not available for Canadians?

27-Sep-16
The app only covers Colorado currently, but Canadians are more than welcome to sign up. I know it says "Billing State" But the province abreviations are at the end and don't worry about the space in the zip.

Jordan

From: WapitiBob
27-Sep-16
TopoFusion downloads Sat imagery for offline use that I don't believe is hosted on his server. You might check what he's using.

From: Vonfoust
28-Sep-16
How does this affect battery life on the phone? If I'm back in for 7 days my battery already doesn't do real well.

28-Sep-16
The "battery" on my compass ALWAYS works!

From: yooper89
28-Sep-16
You mentioned it will track daily stats for distance, do you plan on adding an elevation gain tracker (altimeter) feature?

I definitely plan on checking out the Colorado version you've got rolling.

From: AwHunt73
28-Sep-16
Sounds like i will give it a try and let you know this weekend.

From: APauls
28-Sep-16
It's not even available in the App store for me. I couldn't find it. (being Canadian) So I clicked on your link and it simply said only available for yankees.

From: Amoebus
28-Sep-16
"The "battery" on my compass ALWAYS works!"

I like that one. I hunt in MN near a lot of iron deposits. The 'battery' in my compass works but it doesn't always point north...

Batteries on a phone are usually worse than a GPS, but there are settings you can use to increase your battery life. Google it and follow them - it will help. I also got an Anker portable charger that will re-up your phone 3-4 times - that should be enough for the week.

Most phones are not waterproof and they aren't as durable as most GPSs.

If you can get around those issues, it has a better display and you don't need two toys. I haven't had a good GPS in a while but they were a lot harder to update when needed.

I would be interested to play with this when MT comes online (but, I also bring my compass on each trip).

From: Ermine
28-Sep-16
Does it show private vs public?

From: WapitiBob
28-Sep-16
What's a compass?

28-Sep-16
Apps only work where you can get cell phone coverage.

TMBB

28-Sep-16

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TMBB,

The app works without cell phone coverage. See the initial posts, but you pre-download the areas you need. Your GPS works anywhere regardless of cell reception.

Jordan

28-Sep-16
So to answer some questions:

I will be adding Western States here over the next year. But for the test hunting season, it will just be Colorado.

As far as battery life, since there isn’t any background tracking currently, my phone will last about 4 days in airplane mode using the app just like I do normally. Although I always have power for my phone. Here is an article I wrote about it Staying Charged in the Backcountry.

Also, my phone happens to be waterproof, but I run an OtterBox Defender case while hunting. I literally will throw my phone as high as I can and let it smash on the ground in that case. My phone is completely protected and in fact, I would say using that case, my phone is more rugged than my GPS.

APauls, I will add Canada to the distribution list!

Ermine, the app does show private and public lands. White is Private and the colors are going to be different public lands.

Jordan

From: Amoebus
28-Sep-16
"Apps only work where you can get cell phone coverage."

Not true. Read DIY first post.

From: huntmaster
28-Sep-16
Good luck on this endeavor! I was hoping someone would buy the Trimble app and market it. It's a great app and if one couldn't buy it, I certainly would clone it...

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