Photos can be deceiving! I would not have guessed 50" M/B -- That puts him aprox 288" if no broken antler. Are you going to fix it? At any rate, great gesture cnelk!
Nice bull Dan but the way I see it is that if this bulls right side matched his left he would be a 320"ish type bull. If he had his right G4 but you take off 8 in for the lack of G5 and take another 8 for lack of extended beam on that same fork you get 305ish. I might be all wet but thats what I see.
Yeah, I would revise my guess up to about 280 as is. Main beams fooled me by 10" but it's nearly impossible to tell based on those pictures. I'm terrible at judging elk anyway, just going off what my bull scored an inch shy of PY (self measured) and knowing what a 400 incher looks like, he's somewhere in between those two!
Huh...I just added up the measurements and guessed at the rest with a 35" spread and was surprised. If I would have paid attention in math class and trusted my cyphering, I would change my guess, but I'll just wait for the results.
Looks very close to the bull I took this Season, if it was symmetrical all the way around. Big Dan's bull looks very close to mine. Lou's looks bigger.
Interested to hear about it if a consensus is ever reached...
Mine looks bigger than it is, and not from some photo fakery. Not doing the "Chuck Adams arm thrust". That rack is a clothes rack in the basement of my cabin and people who see it up-close always overestimate the real score.
As we've discussed before, there are a lot of variables on an elk rack. An inch or two here and there...
Thats funny, I only added up the left side and didn't pay attention to the "hang a ring on it" G5. Guess thats why I really only have two categories: "Shooter" and "Not a shooter". When I see the first legal elk, the "Not a shooter" button usually gets grayed out and can't be used :^)
Not to de-rail your thread, Brad, but I never put a tape to this bull. I'm optimistic that he'll break 300, but either way, he's my biggest bull to date, and I'm very happy with him.
And of course, I love 'em all... It's not that I don't know what a big Elk looks like; spent too many hours in the Buckhorn Bar to be naive about such things (and then there's that monster in the DOW Office down around Ft.C)... I'm just always in awe of them.
And is that a TAB on your hand? Holy smokes! I didn't think anybody was still shooting fingers on modern equipment!
Long eye guards, good 3's and its pretty wide. Mass is gonna be there he might be close to 300 without the second fourth. Dandy bull. Looking forward to knowing now.
Heading over to Brad's now. Just received my new elastic "Outfitter Scoring Tape" from Eastmans. Its also the same one Guy and Mike use to "score" the animals on their shows.
Glunt, the tape they used was the same one used for Jaq's hip surgery. Not to burst any bubbles, but using a legitimate tape, the bull actually scored 264 3/8. Just sayin'.....
As scar pointed out, pictures ( or x-rays) are VERY deceiving! lol!
Photos don't justice. As soon as I walked up to it and looked it over I told Brad it was a 315 if both G-4s were the same. Great mass, just a really nice bull for the area where it was killed.
Brad's ice fishing today but he'll put them up when he gets back. We taped and marked the tine demarcation at each beam and were conservative on the lengths from the demarcation line. Also used a knotted no-stretch string instead of a tape to be most accurate. I've measured a lot of bulls and my score is always a hair under the official score because I'm conservative with the eighths.
How did you get 16 6/8 out of a point that's not there your adding 33 4/8 to the score you get no more than the Length of the broken Point that bull is more like a 252 + the 39 inch spread
Sorry that you missed the basic hint waaaaaayyyyyy back in the first post that for shits and giggles that the G4s are matching in length for the gross score...
Just because you say its 252, it's not. You better write this down... you're wrong.
Dan, in the OP he asked for gross score ASSUMING the G4's were the same.
Without adding in an estimation of the broken G-4, scored as it is (one G-4 16 6/8, the other is 2 6/8) the gross score is 304 5/8. Or 265 5/8 + 39" inside spread = 304 5/8.
So your guess of 252 + 39 is only about 13" off of the actual gross score. Way closer than my guess from looking at the photo.