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Thistles in my clover????
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Contributors to this thread:
Show-Me Greg 19-Mar-17
BOHUNTER09 19-Mar-17
BUCKeye 19-Mar-17
gobbler 19-Mar-17
Screwball 19-Mar-17
Mark Watkins 19-Mar-17
drycreek 19-Mar-17
Ben 19-Mar-17
IdyllwildArcher 19-Mar-17
t-roy 19-Mar-17
LKH 19-Mar-17
Pat Lefemine 20-Mar-17
Junior 20-Mar-17
Show-Me Greg 20-Mar-17
Michael Schwister 20-Mar-17
South Farm 20-Mar-17
DoorKnob 20-Mar-17
LKH 20-Mar-17
From: Show-Me Greg
19-Mar-17
Had 2 clover plots drilled in March 2016. West central Missouri. One is 4 acres and one is 6 acres.

Clover actually looking good this year in Feb, BUT...

Just got word that the "thistle" are taking over. Was told that there are 100's of them. All about 9-12" in diameter and 2" tall.

Thinking about trying to spot spray them. Using 41% glyphosate at a 2% mixture, with a wetting agent. Plan is to wait 10 days and hit it again, spraying what I might have missed..

Thoughts????

From: BOHUNTER09
19-Mar-17
that might be the best approach. I have controlled small infestations that way.

From: BUCKeye
19-Mar-17
Despite my best efforts to limit the mist cloud, I end up killing a 12" diameter each time I spot spray.

From: gobbler
19-Mar-17
If it's regular thistle it's not easy but you can get rid of it. If it's Canadian thistle good luck.

From: Screwball
19-Mar-17
Was it always in this plot or What percent of noxious weeds was in your mix you planted. Should be listed on the bag.

From: Mark Watkins
19-Mar-17
I would definitely mow it first....my experience has been that will control 90% of thistle and broad leafs.

Mark

From: drycreek
19-Mar-17
Y'all ever hear of a weed wiper ? Google it ! I have one I adapted to my golf cart. It's a simple pvc boom covered in canvas. You mix your gly pretty stout and wipe the weeds with the wet canvas and the weeds die. I use it to kill behia grass after it gets tall enough that I don't kill my bermuda. The behia specific herbicide is expensive ! Gly is cheap ! I usually wipe them one direction and then turn around and go over them the opposite way. They come in all sizes, I even have one that's about the size of a hockey stick. I use that around the house for problem weeds. Might work for you.

From: Ben
19-Mar-17
If I was going to spot spray I would use 2-4-d. Get em now before they get any bigger. Rosetta stage is best

19-Mar-17
Sounds like a job for a pair of gloves.

From: t-roy
19-Mar-17
2,4-D will kill your clover too. 2,4-DB (Butyrac) won't kill your clover. Not sure how effective it is on thistle, though.

From: LKH
19-Mar-17
Your description sounds like bull thistle. Does it form a dense circular mat completely covering the ground? If so, 2016 was it's first year and it will form a tall stalk and seed heads this year.

Use the gly, but keep the pressure in your backpack so low that you just dribble on to it.

You can also take a small spade (about 4" across) and cut down below the surface to kill it.

I'm over by Moore, and thistle is just a way of life. Canadian is terrible on my wet grounds.

From: Pat Lefemine
20-Mar-17
Torch it one by one

From: Junior
20-Mar-17
If it headed out the best approach is to bag it one by one. If you mow it after its headed, its "omg wtf have I done"..lol. Sounds like you caught it early, so spot spray, burn, or spade may be best option.

From: Show-Me Greg
20-Mar-17
Thanks for the replys.

It has NOT got a head on it yet. just plate size and short.

NEVER had a thistle in the plot before. First year they have showed up.

Bought a 25 gallon ATV sprayer. Going to experiment with water to get the spray pattern down first, then heading to the food plots.

20-Mar-17
Whatever you do MOW IT before it heads out. It is a nightmare, and if you get it established, plow down and plant a Roundup ready summer annual for a couple years to kill it out. IN 1963 we had a tornado destroy our famr and most of our livestock. We bought a bunch of shorthorn cows that had thistle burrs in their hair. The farm has had thistle covered pastures ever since

From: South Farm
20-Mar-17
I'd ignore it. The deer will eat around it and the finches will love ya!

From: DoorKnob
20-Mar-17
Some thistle can be waxy and the spray is not effective.

Add some soap (like dawn dishsoap) as a wetting agent, really helps with thistle.

From: LKH
20-Mar-17
Go to your farm supply and buy a quality surfactant instead of the Dawn. It's not expensive and will help a lot.

I have a couple back pack 3 gallon sprayers. About $100 and a 40 gallon tow sprayer. For what you are doing, spot spraying, the backpack is far more efficient and easier to use.

Buy a pint of red dye from the farm supply. Expensive but worth it. I will allow you to wander around and know if you have sprayed there.

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