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First time to see this. Wasn't there yesterday.
First time to see this. Wasn't there yesterday.
Interesting. Yesterday I could view all of my Utah points for all species. Today I cannot and it says "Eligibility will be available by Wednesday, May 31". Never saw that before. Anyone ever see this? No credit card pre-hit yet either.
Worst results turn around in the country.... Utah is my last chance! Ed F
I still have 4 Utah , Nevada & Montana big three then Az Deer & Sheep
Just checked mine and my old mans and got the same thing. The last few years I have been able to see before my card even was hit if they wiped my points out. Keeping our fingers crossed for Bull Elk this year.
This waiting is killing me!!!!
Quarters: thanks. Was just wondering if anyone else saw the same thing. Was hoping it was some clue either way as I need to schedule my AZ elk hunt dates. Historically they hit cards in a Utah May 12-16 timeframe from what I read so they're behind this year.
Quarters: thanks. Was just wondering if anyone else saw the same thing. Was hoping it was some clue either way as I need to schedule my AZ elk hunt dates. Historically they hit cards in a Utah May 12-16 timeframe from what I read so they're behind this year.
Draw has started. CC's are being hit.
On top of it my Amex card was compromised last week and they replaced it. Does anyone know if Utah calls if there is a problem with the card? Now that would really suck to get drawn and the card not be able to process. I called Utah and they said too late to change cards but they contact folks with issues. I hope he was right.
Yes, they call if your card is declined... at least, they say they do. Ed F
SteveB, That happened to a buddy of mine a few years ago and they did call to get replacement payment.
Thanks guys, much appreciated. Few more days now and we will all know. Always a chance right?
Always chance to draw. Cards are being hit now. Good luck all
Hang in there SteveB!
I got a text last night from a non-ressy buddy that drew Crawfords Late muzzy Muley.
No drop in available credit on my C-card this early AM (0238 MST)
'Ya Gotta Believe'
Good luck, Robb
Interesting: UTAH just told me via the help line that they will allow up to July 19 to correct any credit card issues. That's pretty liberal and how other states should do it. Because of fraud they canceled mine last week and re-issued. I would have been pretty ticked had that cost me a tag. Doubtful to draw, but sure wouldn't want a card issue to be the problem.
Called Utah fish and game yesterday, 31st any earlier results will be E mailed to you Per agent
Don't fret if you haven't been charged or called yet. At a minimum, I'm guaranteed a general archery deer tag and have nothing pending (have more points than required).
SteveB: that's weird because if you have up until July 19 to get your credit card issues straightened out then that means that a person could "hold" a tag for almost two months before paying for it. Like a rain check or a layaway plan. Normally businesses don't operate like that when their product is in high demand.
I thought that if the CC wasn't good that they tried to call you several times and after that they issued the tag to the next in line. It doesn't make sense that they would hold a tag without a payment when there is another person that is next in the draw willing to pay.
That sounds like a mess if Utah does it that way. I'm not trying to upset anybody but the "layaway" tag sounds like a terrible business plan.
My card was compromised as well when I called last week they would not allow me to update it.......... After I badgered them and begged they still would not accept my new card number.
They simply said they would call me if a charge failed. Other than that they would not commit to anything.
Capra: same here. I do think they will call if we get lucky.
Elkstabber: just passing along what the agent told me. I was surprised as well. I think it may be because in order to be this far in the process we did have a successful charge back in February. They know there must be some weird card issue at that point.
I just got charged for either a general deer tag or my wife's CWMU tag. Hoping for the later situation. Thought I was a lock for my LE archery deer tag this year.
+1 Curt-----that does sound strange that they would do a 'layaway' plan....Kmart logic!!
haha
Dang Jason---that is kinda like combo news good-n-sad....hang in there, ya never know the speed of the process.
Good luck, Robb
Just talked to an agent and she said the draw started Wednesday at 5 PM and would take 2 to 4 days.. Faster than I thought. She told me to start crying on Wednesday 24th if I hadn't heard anything..
Just got hit for my general deer season tags. Guess one of these years I'll have to just accept the inevitable and attend the Western Hunting and Conservation Expo to buy a premium tag. Doubtful I'll ever draw anything worthwhile unless I do. Big shout out to Sportsman for Fish and Wildlife for that!
Dave: "Why can't you just do it on the website?"
Because the link doesn't work. They shut it down.
Oh geez don't anyone confuse the two of us! Our opinion of SFW is slightly different. You'll see me at the Expo as soon as hell freezes over, or my ex gets a real job: http://kutv.com/news/local/allegations-of-corruption-surround-utah-hungtin-and-conservation-expo https://www.cascwild.org/don-peay-the-man-who-would-be-king-baron/ http://www.fieldandstream.com/blogs/conservationist/2012/03/group-founder-declares-north-american-hunting-model-%E2%80%9Csocialism%E2%80%9D http://www.standard.net/Recreation/2016/02/10/Transparency-still-debated-around-2016-Western-Hunting-and-Conservation-Expo.html http://www.mtbullypulpit.org/2012/06/pox-on-fox.html http://www.thewildlifenews.com/2013/03/19/did-don-peays-organization-essentially-buy-utah-division-of-wildlife/ http://westernvaluesproject.org/taxpayer-dollars-down-the-drain-utah-group-favors-privatized-hunting-energy-industry-over-hunters-anglers/ http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/02/us/auctions-introduce-market-forces-to-conservation-but-hunters-cry-foul.html?smid=pl-share&_r=2 http://missoulian.com/news/opinion/columnists/group-seeking-privatized-wildlife-spreading-misinformation/article_dfb5fe10-8570-11e1-99d1-0019bb2963f4.html https://howlingforjustice.wordpress.com/2013/03/03/urgent-sfw-founder-requests-taxpayer-money-to-lobby-for-wolf-delisting/ http://www.themudflats.net/archives/25891 https://www.facebook.com/pages/Arizona-Sportsmen-Against-Hb-2072/274702462612489
My comment was made in sarcasm - SFW is inherently corrupt and the Utah DNR is in bed with them. Makes me sick
Oh OK my bad. I thought you mentioned that to me previously.
Anyway, no luck for me, but I'd have had to turn it back in anyway due to my AZ tag.
It's official now. I just drew a general archery deer tag. No LE archery deer. Ugh. Frustrating. I'm off the elk waiting list starting next year so now my deer points will sit in limbo and decline in value due to point creep. If I can apply for elk...I'm going to. Oh well. Going to make the most of it and accept the challenge.
Zim, maybe our spouses can start a business together, make some cash and we can carpool to the Expo together!
They try a card 5 times. If it doesn't go through, they call.
They do this because of debit cards, monthly payments catching up, etc...
HDE: 5 times over how long a period? My card was replaced due to fraud so they could try it 1000 times. Wonder if it's once a day for 5 days etc?
Friend of a friend got his card hit for elk today (Friday).
OK, that's the first elk tag. Keep the faith.
I got my cc hit for LE elk two days ago. No deer though.
General season dutton. Ni limited entry maybe next year.
6x7 When ya going scouting 'up there' soon or later in the summer?
Good luck, Robb
Either they are still drawing or very few Bowsiters got Utah tags this year.
Not seeing any cc hits on my side. Hoping to see something bounce out next week.
With so few damn tags in Utah for NR you won't see many tags drawen
Bullelk1, I usually start looking around up there, and placing cameras around the first part of June. Then I get up there about three more times before the start of the hunt.
From what I can tell, OIL has not been done yet. No posts by anyone yet on MM for OIL hits, and that site is usually the bellwether.
Here is the draw order from the UT book.
This is confusing because YZF-288 said that he draw a general deer license (8th in draw order) and Sticksender said that no one has drawn the OIL tags (4th in draw order).
Hard to say but they may do the card hits in a different order than they run the draw itself.
I got a PM over the weekend from someone who did draw an OIL tag.
My hunting partner has had a hit for a bison tag so they are drawing OIL tags.
General deer cc hits for three of us so drawing must be about over. Good luck.........badbull
Well, thanks everyone for your input. Congrats to those who drew. As much as I had hoped to draw, it simplifies my life already having an Arizona Elk tag. So now I fully engage there!
I guess they forgot to hit my cc for DBHS :(
On the General Deer Tag are you guys res or non-resident?
Not seeing a cc hit... Guess I will just have to wait for the bad news...
I'm non-res, my cc got hit last Wednesday. General deer tag.
This is worse than waitin to see if i was pregnant..
Empty Freezer - As corrupt as the Utah DNR is, you likely don't need to worry about it. You don't get that kind of "service" unless you pay top dollar through their cronies at Sportsmen for Fish and Wildlife.
Non-res, cc's hit today............badbull
Thats way above my pay grade. Just want to hunt Utah with my buddy. I just get angry when i know there is crap like that happening..
Totally agree, I'm in the exact same boat, I just want to hunt with my family. I try to remain positive in my social media posts but at the same time I don't want this particular issue to fall by the way-side - it infuriates me. Corrupt officials count on the complacency of us little folk to continue with their deceitful ways but at the same time I should try to remain positive as well. K, I'm done venting...
I know a guy who was charged this morning for 4 deer tags....only thing is he only had two apps in.??? My son put in 5 choices for archery deer, some in units that traditionally go undersubscribed and hasn't had a card hit so who the heck knows what is going on.!!
The suspense is killing me!!! Hurry up and send the emails!!
With the General Deer tags; this year's draw is different with all 1st choices being considered first. That will definitely change the odds for a lot of deer units
Just got the email, 5/23/17, 4:15 P.M. Drew General Deer...Beaver. Good Luck!
Nice! No email for me yet, checking every minute!!
Chasin Bugles's Link
Points were just updated and posted on their website
Got hit late last week on the credit card and just got my email. I drew mule deer tags in Utah and Colorado!!! Time to reconsider my thoughts for elk...
Got a nasty email. UNSUCCESSFUL: Limited Entry Bull Elk
Email for me bonus points deer,elk, and moose
Still no email, points not updated yet, must not be sending out the good news till tomorrow
Thanks Sticksender for the link. Another donation this year.
21 elk points. Next year! Wifey poo gave me the go ahead!
Norseman, nice....I have point envy! Very few are ahead of you, and very few of those will be in for archery. Do you know which hunt you'll be trying for?
I'm with Bowhunter, no email, no updated points. Though I don't see any activity on my cc either... TODDY
Welp...no Henrys or San Jaun tag for me!
Just got my UNN email this evening
My points are updated and verified unsuccessful for LE but I did get the general deer tag I wanted.
Congrats to those were successful.. I gotta wait another year.. Boo Hoo
Boo Hoo for me too. Utah keeps getting harder instead of easier.
My grand daughter just got her results nothing
Just got my thanks but no tags for you this year:(
Spoke too soon. The dreaded Unsuccessful Email just showed up. :0 ( TODDY
Dang it man! I'm still hoping and checking every minute or so:)
Unsuccessful across the board again in Utah....
Well the news came, no luck for me!
No email No points up date come on
Email just came O's on everything 11:30 Pm
No love here either...unsuccessful across the board.
Sorry fella's------
TJ ~~ game on next year man!!
Good luck, Robb
Just got the email last night, strike out on both deer and elk ...
Email is in. I won 7 USUCS.
Wife and I both struck out.
I got an email. Points for elk and deer again this year. Maybe next year is the year.
0's all across the board for me.
My dad, brother, and I all struck out. Not too many bowsiters with Utah tags this year...
The one year I am glad I struck out. With a Wyoming elk tag in my pocket I am all in for Wyoming this year. I could of handled the Book Cliffs deer tag though.
Another Unsuccessful email for the three of us.. It's a trap, I tell ya'
My buddy from Ohio drew a Wyoming sheep tag & a Utah Elk SUCCESSFUL: Limited Entry Archery Bull Elk
Hunt: Paunsaugunt Weapon: Archery Your season date(s): Aug 19 - Sept 15, 2017
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Nada. 19 bison points though.
My buddy pulled an Ogden Willard billy goat tag with only 5 points. Lucky dog. He beat 1.4% odds in the random pool.
Ron, are you doing Book Cliffs or Henry's? My friends dad drew last year in the Books with 22 points. Super fun hunt and we got lucky and could get the truck to around 100 yds away......still took 4 of us 3-4 hours to get it all cut up. The bull we got was all by himself; if you hunt the herds you'll have company and it's trickier than it sounds to pick a good one with 60 others and once someone shoots they scatter faster than you'd think. Opening morning we had 3 different groups on one herd. Only one group shot and honestly I think they shot the 1st one they saw and it looked like a calf to me, but I was 500 yds away.
A friend of mine and I put in as a group for general deer on the North Slope of the Unitas (4 pts total, so 2 a piece). As a resident it's been pretty much every other year for archery deer. We'll get OTC elk tags too, when they become available.
My son drew the early elk tag by mistake on the Paunsaugunt. Put in for the wrong unit and drew the random tag with just a couple points. Never even considered it for elk, just deer. But after looking into it, we are looking forward to the 1200 mile trip in sept! It looks to be a very tough hunt, but this will be his first elk hunt. There must be some descent bulls there since folks are burning 17 points on it lately, Guess we'll see how it goes! If anyone has any helpful info you can message me. Thanks!
5575 depending on how many points you burned you may want to consider turning that tag back. If it's the early rifle hunt you might be ok. My Dad and I have archery hunted it several times, and I live an hour from the unit. It can be a tough, frustrating hunt. If you do keep it, feel free to hit me up i would be happy to help out or at least send you in a decent direction.
Gotta give the Ute's credit, they pick your pocket but it's half of what the other agencies extract for the same result. Scary reading some of the point totals with no dice.
Anyone have any outfitter or trespass hunt recommendations for the Zion unit deer in late September?
5575 for sure listen to twinetickler as that hunt can be very tough!
You will see some PIG muley bucks though!
Quinn-- I never really have heard of any Deer guides on the Zion ~~ Sheep (Desert Rams) yes.
Good luck, Robb
I just got an email from my buddy one of his twins drew a Henrys Any weapon tag He just got out of the Alaska bear camp were he has been for two weeks hunting grizz.
Henry's any weapon? Holy cow!