Any one have a link to that video? Or any other good videos? I have a ted talk that talked specifically about how the lion hunting ban killed all the lions in a certain country. But this other video seemed to have a lot more facts.
To me that's the crux of the pro vs. anti crowd.
The biggest takeaway is how little people really understand about hunting and why it's allowed (forget about why we do it).
I will keep looking.
Of course over the last couple centuries everything has changed in their world with technology, new political structures, new religions, Western societal laws, corporate big money, poverty, difficult diseases, crime and now terrorism. Most locals, of course, are not reaping much of the rewards from all the wealth generated there and get by with whatever means are available. Basic needs always come first in Africa and thinking beyond immediate needs, like your next meal is not the norm. If the value of an animal is simply to provide food and whatever else they were using from it than they will think nothing of killing it if the opportunity is presented. If the value of that animal can be transformed into something even more valuable, such as new sources of income (jobs) and the ability to provide even more benefits to their families and selves; they will see the animals as a means to a better end and help protect them directly and indirectly. The education factor is probably the biggest obstacle to achieving this across the many countries and cultures. If the animal's value is inflated up to the extreme amounts being paid for that illegal horn or tusk, then some will simply turn to poaching and senseless killing of rhino and elephant goes on.
As you know, hunters bring large infusions of cash to otherwise poor areas. Some of this money does find its way to the locals, however as anyone can see, they don't get very much of the pie as this wealth is concentrated with landowners, safari operators, and other industries like local meat markets, taxidermists, game breeders, fencing co's, etc. In the (not an everyday instance) where a problem animal like an elephant is killed by a hunter often all the meat goes to the locals who come to butcher it as we have all seen on TV. Yes, in this instance they do benefit directly with an additional value realized as prized protein. Plus it makes for a good filming element on these hunting shows. :)
However, in many areas it is still a tenuous arrangement keeping the locals in sync with protecting and nurturing the wildlife when they are still looking at the stark realities of existing from day to day. So, the poaching for food goes on but maybe not as much as it would be without the safari hunting. Check RSA's history on hunting. Their game animal numbers have dramatically increased over what they were since the 60's. The result of sound game management on private lands there has been nothing short of miraculous. Many uncommon species are now plentiful and in some cases overabundant. However, not all countries are run like RSA nor do they have the political situation to pull it off. Contrast this with Mozambique, where civil wars resulted in game simply vanishing from many areas due to rampant killing for food and survival with no regard to the future of threatened species or maintaining healthy game populations. Wildlife there is making a comeback in part by bringing back the hunters and reworking the value structure for wildlife.
Hunters pour much more money into the local poor economies than does ecotourism which has been demonstrated and acknowledged by various government agencies including organizations like SCI. SCI has a wealth of information on such matters and they may have just the ammunition you are looking for with your discussion. In short, Africa is diverse and things are very different across countries and cultures. Overall though, the native populations will take their protein one way or another, either they kill it illegally or buy it and other needed goods with money made from working in hunting-related jobs. Trackers, skinners, taxidermy workers, meat haulers, transporters, fence building, cooks, maids, guides, and all the other support workers needed are just some of the ways they pull in income that was not available before hunting. Plus, over time they are learning about sound game management and the true value of their wildlife through us.
Great summary of the issues facing Africa. Well said and written.
I also like to mention that landowners and their employees need to make money. That if they were not able to make money from hunting, then the large land owners and the small land owners would make a living in some manner. In most cases, it would look just like the US. Native wildlife would be replaced by livestock. Predators would be shot on sight, and anything that ate cattle feed would be wiped out. If it was not livestock than it would be crops and anything that was damaging to crops would get wiped out.
I still need to find the one video. It surfaced around the time BIGPIZZAMAN was in his battle.
I remember it being drama/documentary and I recall an old tracker saying that tomorrow he will go for a hunt.
Thanks again guys. The anti hunter admitted that they do not like the idea, but that she could not find a better way to protect animals. She also admitted that maybe trophy hunters are not the spawn of satan, but she still thinks little of them. She is conflicted now and struggling with a paradigm shift.