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Contributors to this thread:
ElkNut1 01-Oct-17
ElkNut1 01-Oct-17
Treeline 01-Oct-17
tobinsghost 01-Oct-17
t-roy 01-Oct-17
Smtn10PT 02-Oct-17
deerhaven 02-Oct-17
cnelk 02-Oct-17
ElkNut1 02-Oct-17
Chris S 02-Oct-17
BOWNBIRDHNTR 02-Oct-17
ELKMAN 02-Oct-17
TheDream 02-Oct-17
Kodiak 02-Oct-17
ElkNut1 02-Oct-17
Scoot 02-Oct-17
Destroyer350 02-Oct-17
12yards 02-Oct-17
Thunderflight 02-Oct-17
Thunderflight 02-Oct-17
Scar Finga 02-Oct-17
Treeline 02-Oct-17
Smtn10PT 02-Oct-17
Kodiak 02-Oct-17
HUNT MAN 02-Oct-17
loopmtz 02-Oct-17
Heartshot 02-Oct-17
Stringmaker 02-Oct-17
GhostBird 02-Oct-17
Paul@thefort 02-Oct-17
PA BONES 02-Oct-17
stringgunner 02-Oct-17
Big John 02-Oct-17
ElkNut1 02-Oct-17
kscowboy 02-Oct-17
BOWNBIRDHNTR 02-Oct-17
Drahthaar 02-Oct-17
OFFHNTN 02-Oct-17
otcWill 02-Oct-17
WV Mountaineer 02-Oct-17
ElkNut1 02-Oct-17
Inshart 02-Oct-17
Ironbow 02-Oct-17
Treeline 02-Oct-17
kellyharris 02-Oct-17
wackmaster2 02-Oct-17
ElkNut1 02-Oct-17
hbuck 02-Oct-17
Wayniac 03-Oct-17
ElkNut1 03-Oct-17
SBH 03-Oct-17
Mark Watkins 03-Oct-17
Eric B. 03-Oct-17
ELKMAN 06-Oct-17
Randy 13-Oct-17
Ben 13-Oct-17
APauls 13-Oct-17
Polly 13-Oct-17
ElkNut1 14-Oct-17
deerslayer 15-Oct-17
From: ElkNut1
01-Oct-17
If you elk hunt long enough you will come across many "First Time Occurrences", it must have been my turn this year! (grin) This encounter was one that was crazy for a while, I still can't believe how it turned out it could easily have been a heart breaker! It couldn't have been scripted any better! (grin) Here's the story as it actually unfolded for my Son & I. It's an OTC Idaho elk hunt. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

My Son & I located a bull just after daylight with a location bugle, it happened to be a Full Moon so this bull was already in his bed! He bugled one time in response, we heard him while 350 yards away & he had aprox 200'-300' of elevation on us. Yes it was super steep country where he was well hidden! He was on a small bench above us the best we could guess. We headed his direction with no more calling, we were able to get to about 175 yards before we were concerned with being spotted if we called, we did not want him to get up & start looking for us even though it was thick timber & brush. We had partial concealment if we used it correctly & we intended to do just that. The plan was to have my Son move up ahead of me 30 yards, I headed to a dead tree with lots of branches & concealment to setup to see if I could get this bull to an aggressive state, I knew that was going to be a challenge in itself with only one half hearted bugle to work with, he was not presently in an aggressive mood which isn't unusual early Sept. His bugle in response to mine was more in the category of advertising his presence! I decided to see if I could peak his interest with cow calling, I started with a few soft mews as if I was entering the area, I repeated after two minutes with 3-4 soft mews with no response from the bull. Basically he could care less!

I continued with several more sets of mews & whines over the next 5 minutes, he finally bugled again but with little interest. I decided to up the ante so injected a few Contact Buzzes which asks him to come my way, 4-6 of them a 1/2 second long each, I did 4-5 sets inside two minutes & the bulls next bugle had a bit more excitement to it but he still had not moved! I did another set of Buzzes & he immediately bugled, I was ready for him & started to rake a tree & snap branches during his bugle. I raked for a solid minute & then panted 3 times through my bugle, he immediately bugled back & I cut him off with my own Challenge, he instantly bugled over me! Awesome, I'm getting him fired up! 8- 10 minutes has passed since I started to work him up! I continue to rake & thrash around along with foot stomping & mid volume excited mews as I changed pitch. This enticed him to bugle with more intensity, I could tell he was now on his feet & had come 30-40 yards closer, no doubt he's looking down the mountain for these elk but my setup was good & it did not give him the luxury to see where the calling was coming from without coming much closer to my position which would hopefully pull him by my Son!

More in a bit! (grin) ElkNut/Paul

From: ElkNut1
01-Oct-17
The bull has now bugled every 30 seconds, he was trying to call the cow & intimidate the bull to stay back! (me) I continued to thrash & bugled over him several times. I now retreated about 15 yards as if pulling back a bit & continued to rake/thrash & a few contact buzzes, this really fired him up!! I could hear him coming down the mountain & now I can see glimpses of him moving through the brush, he still 80+ yards out from me so is aprox 40 yards or so from my son. I need to draw the bull closer to him as he's shooting a Longbow. I retreat another 10 yards without being seen, I stop rake dead branches on a standing tree & scream a Challenge bugle, he hammers me right back with a coarse bugle. I now growl at him through my bugle tube followed by 3-4 grunts, he moves down the mountain closer & I see my son stiffen as he is waiting for the perfect time to draw & release.

There's no holding a 60# longbow at full draw & waiting for him to appear like you can a compound. I can see small glimpses through timber & willow brush of my son to my left & the bull to the right, they appear to be inside 30 yards from one another with sparse willows separating them, the bull is fixed on my calling & antics he has no clue of my sons presence. Out of nowhere I hear the soft thud of the arrow released from his bow & the bull goes crashing through the willows & the dark timber. 25 minutes have passed since I started calling, this bull had me pulling out all the stops, he just didn't like the idea of coming off the bench but we were fortunate that he did!

I start bugling the second I hear the bull crash off in an effort to slow him down. I headed over to my son to find out what happened!!!! He has that 'Oh Crap' look on his face as I approach him?

He's sorta shaking his head in disgust! I'm like Uh Oh, I know that look & it's generally not good! He says on the last bit of calling when the bull committed & ran down to range he was getting ready to stop him with a nervous grunt as he cleared the last bit of brush but instead of clearing the brush patch the bull stopped just inside of the willows, he felt there was plenty of window to get a cedar shaft tipped with a Snuffer head through it as the bull was 100% broadside to him. 3/4's of the way to the bull he sees the arrow glance off a limb & hit the bull low, he thinks it may have been in the upper part of the leg but not sure?

More in a bit! ElkNut/Paul

From: Treeline
01-Oct-17
Awesome story so far! Awesome calling sequence!!

From: tobinsghost
01-Oct-17
Bring it!

From: t-roy
01-Oct-17
Wow! What a cool encounter!

From: Smtn10PT
02-Oct-17
keep it coming elknut

From: deerhaven
02-Oct-17
Great story. Looking forward to finding out what happens.

From: cnelk
02-Oct-17
My experience with a 'contact buzz' is very different. But I live in Colorado

From: ElkNut1
02-Oct-17
We sit & discuss at the spot he shot from for around 15 minutes giving it a bit of time but not having high hopes at all with the shot placement he described . At minimum we decide to look for his arrow & evaluate the situation with what we discover. After 5 minutes of pinpoint quiet looking & subtle whispering I find the shaft with no head & a few inches of cedar shaft missing. There is blood there so we commence tracking the bull, it's muscle blood for sure. (plain red blood) It's hit & miss, fortunately more hit than miss as we look over all clues! After tracking 10-15 minutes & going aprox 125 yards we hear a bugle 175 yards above us? By George it's him!! We easily recognize this bulls bugle, we look at each other & my son whispers to me, I guess we can eliminate he's not hit in the lungs! (grin) We weren't smiling but very disappointed but he did state a fact. We follow the blood trail & the bull bugles again a few minutes later, he is well above us & feel he can hear us & wants to know what we are moving around below him. I don't feel from his bugle he is nervous, just curious!

Roughly 1/2 an hour to 45 min has passed from him being hit, we are still on his blood trail. Out of nowhere my son says do you hear that? I say what? My son hears a cow mew, then another & another, they are coming from the same spot as the bugling! At first I did not hear them but then listened closely & heard a couple more, the elk were still in their bedding area along with the wounded bull! I looked at my son & smiled, I said I think I can call him back in, he looked at me like I was crazy! (grin) He was right too, calling a wounded bull back in is something I've never done, I have to try though with this new set of circumstances, there are cows present, in my opinion & experience that's advantage hunters! (grin)

We now know we are dealing with a herd bull that has several cows alongside him, that's a game changer & will now tailor my calling to this new situation! They are still in the bedding area as it's only about 9:30 a.m. We form a plan now to attempt to call his cows away, this can work but is risky because it's obvious there are no cows in Heat/Estrus because there are no other bulls around bugling for the cows attention. If there were our odds would be much higher for all intensive purposes. We have nothing to lose here being he's already hit so we go for it hoping for the best. We will know which way this is going to go with my first bugle but prepare with a positive attitude that this will work! I'm not going with the same calling scenario that was first used! This time I'm going to employ both a Lip Bawl & Challenge Bugle as needed, his response will dictate how I choose one over the other Between the two, it could work!

ElkNut/Paul

From: Chris S
02-Oct-17
I love the story. Learning a bunch about the different call sequences. Throw the kitchen sink at him!!

From: BOWNBIRDHNTR
02-Oct-17
Holy cow, this is a good one!

From: ELKMAN
02-Oct-17
Did you try to use a Pop wiz on him? Or the old Weezy moan with gurgle glunk finish?

From: TheDream
02-Oct-17
Come on man don't leave us hanging!

From: Kodiak
02-Oct-17
Enjoying.

From: ElkNut1
02-Oct-17

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2nd Time Was A charm!
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2nd Time Was A charm!
At this point we are still 175 yards under this group so are able to speak softly, wind is still coming towards us, we are on a north face so the sun hasn't peeked over our way quite yet. -- The plan is to have my son to go to my left aprox 35 yards, if the bull bugles back to me instantly I'm going to head up the mountain to my right side to keep him to the left forcing him between us or right at him in hopes of giving my son another shot opportunity as I pressure him fast. Subtle calling is out the window at this stage so no cow calling needed it's pure aggressive action in his face! I let him know to parallel me as I head towards the bull in a slight rage as I call & rake, the bull should cut the distance pretty quick if this works so be ready? -- I now wait for the bull to bugle & we are certain he will, when he does I will hit them with the Lip Bawl Bugle, a coarse one! This is calling his cows my way & telling him to back away. Fingers crossed that he Challenges me instantly or we could push him.

The bull bugles as anticipated! Before he can finish I cut him off with the Lip Bawl, HE COMES UNGLUED, he is screaming a warning like I had not heard him do until now, what a sigh of relief, he's All In! I close the distance as quickly as I can by 30 yards to a tree which offers cover & something I can rake/thrash in an attempt to impress & draw his cows away. -- This is crazy as this is a wounded bull with a partial arrow in him!!! I push hard now as I get to the tree screaming as coarse a Lip Bawl as I can & rake like hell. He comes right towards us splitting the two of us to aprox 80 yards, I see a flash of him but just parts & pieces, I'm hoping my son has moved up as I did as I cannot see him at all, it's too thick! At the 80 yard spot the bull hits me with a single nervous grunt & a Round Up Bugle, this tells me to come on out, he wants to see me to size me up! I'm able to move up another 10 yards to the next tree, I quickly hit him with the same nervous grunt & a shorter version of the round up bugle showing intensity which insists for him to come over my way, he does just that & runs right towards me, he stops at 35 yards & I can now see him through the tree branches.

I see him sorta pacing & he bugles a Challenge which seemed like it was right in my face, I Challenge him right back now that he is this close, good thing I have just enough cover to do so!! I'm quickly thinking where is my son? About that time I hear the arrow release & the solid impact as it contacts the bull, the bull blows out of there heading straight back to his cows, this time he didn't quite make it! As I hear the shot I bugle instantly to slow him. I now head towards where I think my son is & this time he's smiling! (grin) I get to him just in time as he points up the hill & I see the bull rolling down it towards us! I'm actually in disbelief that a 2nd shot opportunity took place inside an hour! This time the bull only traveled 45 yards uphill & was done!

We found the 1st arrow embedded high in his front leg wedged next to his leg bone! Man that had to be uncomfortable. As the bull came in the 2nd time he didn't have so much as gimp, it was as if nothing was wrong! We had a little lady luck shine on us that day! (grin) All in all it was an awesome hunt on OTC ID public land.

ElkNut/Paul

From: Scoot
02-Oct-17
Pretty dang sweet! Thanks for sharing Paul.

From: Destroyer350
02-Oct-17
Crazy story! Glad to hear it worked out!

From: 12yards
02-Oct-17
Unreal! Great ending to a great hunt!

02-Oct-17
Awesome story! thanks and congrats!

02-Oct-17
Awesome story! thanks and congrats!

From: Scar Finga
02-Oct-17
That is awesome! Congratulation to your both! That is a beautiful bull!!

From: Treeline
02-Oct-17
Awesomeness! Congratulations to the both of you for a well executed hunt!

From: Smtn10PT
02-Oct-17
Wow, what an amazing hunt! congrats!

From: Kodiak
02-Oct-17
Nice.

From: HUNT MAN
02-Oct-17
That was great thanks for posting! Hunt

From: loopmtz
02-Oct-17
Sweet!! Good job ElkNut!

From: Heartshot
02-Oct-17
great report paul!

From: Stringmaker
02-Oct-17
Great hunt and story, glad it worked out . . . See you son is still shooting a stick and string . . .

Michael

From: GhostBird
02-Oct-17
Wow. Congratulations to you both. Heck of a story... thanks for sharing.

From: Paul@thefort
02-Oct-17
Paul, where were you when I had a bull or two within 30 yards as I needed someone behind me to call and bring the bulls closer? Great story and congrats to both of you.

The other Paul.

From: PA BONES
02-Oct-17
Great story and awesome hunt. Thanks for sharing.

From: stringgunner
02-Oct-17
That's a crazy story. Thanks for sharing.

From: Big John
02-Oct-17
Congrats, Thanks for the share

From: ElkNut1
02-Oct-17
Thank you guys! Yes it was a great day in the woods with my Son! Thanks for tagging along!

Paul, you say the word Sir! I'd be honored to call for you any day, not that you need it but there are situations where it can make a difference! Not sure I could hang with you for as many days as you can bivy hunt? (grin)

ElkNut/Paul

From: kscowboy
02-Oct-17
Awesome hunt. You definitely need to write an article for Eastman's or another publication. Too cool of a story to just share on here.

From: BOWNBIRDHNTR
02-Oct-17
Awesome story. Congrats!

From: Drahthaar
02-Oct-17
Awesome, great hunt . Forrest

From: OFFHNTN
02-Oct-17
Super cool! CONGRATS!!!

From: otcWill
02-Oct-17
Heck yeah! Thanks for the story Paul

02-Oct-17
Awesome stuff man.

From: ElkNut1
02-Oct-17
Thanks guys, I appreciate it!

ElkNut/Paul

From: Inshart
02-Oct-17
Outstanding, You and your Son nailed it again. So where did the first arrow hit, and for that matter the second as well?

From: Ironbow
02-Oct-17
Great story.

How about a video explaining each of your elk sounds and how you did it?

From: Treeline
02-Oct-17
Hell, no Ironbow!

There wouldn't be any elk left if he gave away his secrets!!!

From: kellyharris
02-Oct-17
What a well written and awesome story

From: wackmaster2
02-Oct-17
WOW . great time had by all..

From: ElkNut1
02-Oct-17
Ha Ha, no secrets! It's basically understanding an elks language! Thanks!

Inshart, I did mention about the 1st head being high in the elks front leg. To take him out he hit him where he lives! (grin) Thanks!

ElkNut/Paul

From: hbuck
02-Oct-17
Congrat on a good bull

From: Wayniac
03-Oct-17
Congrats! Awesome story and great outcome!

From: ElkNut1
03-Oct-17
kscowboy, thanks, that's not a bad idea! (grin)

ElkNut/Paul

From: SBH
03-Oct-17
Awesome! What a cool story. Thanks for laying it out for us. Well done as usual!

From: Mark Watkins
03-Oct-17
Great story, lessons and technique!!

Congrats to you both!!

Mark

From: Eric B.
03-Oct-17
That was awesome guys !

From: ELKMAN
06-Oct-17
Very cool

From: Randy
13-Oct-17
Great story. Thank you for sharing and congrats to your son on a nice bull.

From: Ben
13-Oct-17
Great story and hunt Paul! When I see a thread with your name on it I read it to the end. Thanks for taking us along!

From: APauls
13-Oct-17
GREAT story thanks Paul and congrats to the both of you!

From: Polly
13-Oct-17
Holly Molly I was on the edge of my seat reading the hunt. Congratulations on t he bull and a memorable hunt.

From: ElkNut1
14-Oct-17
Thank you for the comments everyone! By the way I too was on the edge of my 'seat' hoping my son had advanced up the mtn when I saw the bull at 35 yards on round 2! Fortunately we were on the same page! (grin) Thanks!

ElkNut/Paul

From: deerslayer
15-Oct-17
That was a great ending to a potentially bummer hunt. Way to keep after it Paul!!!

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