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Goats in the Snow
I have a G5 tag, and since good fur is more important to me, I have planned to go hunting in October. Now that it is October, it looks to be snowing, and so far has not slowed up much. I have been on a number of goat hunts, but none when the ground was covered. Does anyone have tips for hunting goat in the snow, and does anyone have experience with G5 and if the goats move much lower when snow hits?
Great tag, good luck. They look yellow against the snow. Access of course becomes the problem with heavy snow. No experience in that unit, but lots of guys here do have.
I guide in AK. Crampons are a must in snow.
As Sticksender mentioned, they are yellowish or a little dirty compared to snow. Instead of looking for goats, look for their tracks in the snow. Follow them both ways until you see what made them.
I hunted G5 a few years back, you can get snowed out pretty easy. I was planning on taking one in October also, and ended up burning my tag
I'm sure crampons are a great tool, but would they help much in soft fresh snow? More than one Bowsiter has been snowed out on this hunt, as I'm sure others outside of Bowsite have been. With this information being available, I'm not sure why people risk waiting, but I guess maybe if you've had several past opportunities it isn't as big a deal?
Good luck and be careful. I'd say hope for some warmer weather.
Snowshoes and trekking poles are a must . Crampons also once the snow Is packed. I had Good luck glassing tracks and following them to the source.
Are you going up in Chicago basin or have other plans? I hunted it in October, but was fortunate enough to avoid most of the snow. See if you can find Don V's thread. I think he hunted it when there was some snow.
Thanks for all the input. I am either going up Chicago basin, or packing in from the north down Vallecito.
I would bring an InReach and plenty of winter gear in case you get snowed in....rather than snowed out!
You probably should not attempt this. By waiting you rolled the dice, they came up snake eyes, accept it and live to fight another day. Do not try the northern plan.
That's some rugged country down there. Super steap rugged mtns. Waiting might have been a bad idea. I would have gone earlier but that's me. I hope you can get in there ok
Not sure where you plan on going coming from the north down Vallecito, but as mentioned I would do some serious reconsidering. I hunted some of that country north of the basin and would not want to be in there with much snow on the ground. I went in there late September and got served some humble pie. Also make sure to check the train schedule. On my return trip in October I think I took one of the last trains for the year.
The train quits running in the next week or two so getting in and out of the needles gets tough. Also not sure what you are talking about coming from the north down to Vallecito, good luck with that and finding goats in there
Thanks for all the advice. I am keeping an eye on the weather with the hope of creating options around it. Looks like the trains run until October 28th, so that part should be good. Orion - There is a long trail down Vallecito creek from the north which sets you up for an east approach to the area. For me, this would likely involve horses to get me into the area.
I know the trail I was rather implying that you will have your work cut out going in there looking for a goat, as there are only a few rogue goats in there and they are few and far between
I had this tag around ten years ago now, did quite a bit of hunting in mid Oct. snow and the rut got the goats all in huge groups in pretty accessible terrain in Chicago basin and some of the rougher basins around it, it was not hard to locate goats as the tracks from 35 to 40 of them were pretty obvious... on another note, I drove past the unit yesterday, it has melted to the point that if you get after it soon snow won't be an issue on south facing slopes anyway.
We hunted that unit 4 years ago. It snowed quite a bit the week before we got in there. We were lucky enough to have the sun come out and melt the south facing slopes in Chicago Basin enough to be able to hike and stalk my dads billy. They were difficult to spot but not impossible. On another note, we did have a nannie and kid visit our tent while we were out hunting during the day.
Some good news with the melting snow, and maybe luck is on your side. It looks like you should have clear conditions for the near term, so hopefully you are out chasing them!
Im running out of time 3 days left, but i'm going out tomorrow G16. Using skis skins and a sled!
Ski & Skin- Hot tip - There is one less goat in G16 after today. I did not harvest one but I ran in to the spotter of another hunter and he said his son in law had it killed a goat with a longbow on the north side of Boreas Mountain just off the top of the Boreas Pass Road. He said there was a group of at least 6 there this afternoon. No skis needed in that end of the unit. Snow fall was light and it was burning off fast today in the sun. While I was out hunting we saw more than 70 goats today mostly nannies and kids but not in G16. Good luck! Sandbrew
Finally went up wednesday, Boreas pass. Glassed for 4 hours, nada. Met the same guy talked to him for a while, I was just about to leave when i decided I needed to go walk my puppy i got the first day of archery. Glassed the same place and boom 24 goats, they were just lower. Went up tried 5 times with my bow the last was 40 yards broadside at full draw and no shot two goats behind him. My set up I've had pass thru's with bulls, when they did move it was a texas heart shot. They moved to 130 ish and it was getting late, so I switched to the boom stick!
10/11 He was the nicest Looking Billy in the group. There was one older much bigger bases, however I never had a shot on him.
Oh ya there was no snow??? It defiantly made the pack out harder, I brought out everything on my back. Bone in meat everything, hardest pack out ever!!! All downhill and i puked 400 yds from the truck, just didn't want to stop because that would have made it longer and harder.
A friend came up to help me pack out, let my puppy out of my truck. He got up there a little late and just stayed at the truck. Well he helped me out two weeks before with my elk, last week he said his pack he used smelled bad. Like real bad worse than ever before, he's packed out animals before and his pack never smelled that bad.
I finally hiked down to the truck loaded up with Mt. Goat and he told me he found out why his pack smelled sooooooo Bad!!!! Two weeks of rotting ELk TONGUE!!!
So when he helped with the elk he said he wanted to keep the elk tongue to make tacos like his grandma did.
I laughed so hard all the pain went away and every time I think about it I just crack up Laughing!!!!
Hope everyone's hunts were memorable!!
Congrats on the goat Paul! I can relate. Packed my goat out 5 miles and 2500 ft elevation down to the truck this year. Man it is hard. And i packed just the cape and head. Couldnt imagine packing the entire thing alone!
I can't imagine hunting G5 in the snow. I hunted there 26 years ago and it kicked my ass at 25 years old. The year I was there a goat hunter who was scouting slipped and fell to his death. If you go, be very careful.
One of the most beautiful places on earth. I remember going above 14k and It was beyond words looking out over the needle mountains from up there.
Awesome and congratulations! God Bless men
There are times when a wise man does not spit at the needles and beg for a lesson, I hope he gives a follow up report, tick tock... There is something about coming out with your bright eyes dimmer and your bushy tail froze to a nub that seems to make people reluctant to tell! I don't know why, those are the best stories!