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Best lineman's rope
Equipment
Contributors to this thread:
Scoot 09-Oct-17
Robear 09-Oct-17
SNYPER31 09-Oct-17
JTV 09-Oct-17
t-roy 09-Oct-17
Griz34 09-Oct-17
Dirtman 09-Oct-17
Griz34 09-Oct-17
The last savage 11-Oct-17
The last savage 11-Oct-17
pa10point 11-Oct-17
The last savage 11-Oct-17
krieger 11-Oct-17
Bernie P. 12-Oct-17
WausauDug 12-Oct-17
Bullshooter 12-Oct-17
Lost Arra 12-Oct-17
Bigwoods 12-Oct-17
Scoot 12-Oct-17
Bigwoods 12-Oct-17
SaddleReaper 12-Oct-17
JTV 12-Oct-17
t-roy 12-Oct-17
SaddleReaper 13-Oct-17
SaddleReaper 13-Oct-17
SaddleReaper 13-Oct-17
Scoot 13-Oct-17
From: Scoot
09-Oct-17
I've never owned a lineman's rope. What is the best one to get and why?

Not sure if it matters, but I've got a Hunter's Safety System vest that I'll be using it with...

From: Robear
09-Oct-17
I can recommend the Treehopper belt. Works well for me.

From: SNYPER31
09-Oct-17
treehopper is the only one ive ever used.

From: JTV
09-Oct-17

JTV's embedded Photo
JTV's embedded Photo
One you make yourself..... 11mm/12mm Static Cord/Rescue Rope, a RopeMan 1 Ascender and 2 Carabiners ... the Prussic is no longer on it and the carabiners have been switched out ..

From: t-roy
09-Oct-17
Any pics of that rig in action, JTV?

From: Griz34
09-Oct-17
I made one exactly like the one JTV has. It works great and is very light weight, but it's a little spendy...just the ascender is $35. I'd much rather use an ascender than a prussic knot though.

From: Dirtman
09-Oct-17
Griz, Where did you get the ascender for $35?

From: Griz34
09-Oct-17
Amazon

11-Oct-17

The last savage's embedded Photo
The last savage's embedded Photo
Scoot I've rock climbed for 30 + years,,the device in my pic is similar to the ascender,I use it to climb alone or to hang my lock on stands,what they do is allow you to take in or gain slack in rope,with one hand safely.if you go into any rock climbing shop,they'll hook you up right,,,ordering off line ,you don't get the quick know-how ,that they can show you,,,however they are simple devices if you order,,,,,check it out.

11-Oct-17
Sorry ,it's a petzl mini traxion.....

From: pa10point
11-Oct-17
Are aluminum carabiners safe to use on lineman ropes

11-Oct-17
Lol yeah the caribiner in pic,,,, its strength is measured in Kilo newtons.. elongated strength as well as side strength,,it will hold a truck...and you,,

From: krieger
11-Oct-17
Not just any ol' aluminum one I'm guessing, but one specifically designed for loads. Lots of cheap china junk out there..

From: Bernie P.
12-Oct-17
HSS products are as good or better as any.

From: WausauDug
12-Oct-17
if your going to be using it for your climber or loc on stand and want to be portable those HSS ropes are a beast. Muddy and some others make a smaller/lighter version which are the way to go. You definatley want to go w/ the aluminum caribiner too. This set up is probably half the weight of the standard HSS.

From: Bullshooter
12-Oct-17
I have the same set up as JTV but use a rope I got from SafeTreeHunt online. The rope is a lot stiffer so it is easier to slide up the tree as you go.

From: Lost Arra
12-Oct-17
SafeTreeHunt here also

From: Bigwoods
12-Oct-17
I made one similar to JTV with the ascender as well. Jason Samkowiak has a youtube video on how to make them.

From: Scoot
12-Oct-17
Thanks for all of the info, fellas. One follow up question-- what are the pros and cons of an ascender vs. using a prusik knot? The most obvious one is the cost difference. My impression is that I don't need an ascender, but it might be a nice convenience vs. using the prusik knot. Is that correct? The prusik knot looks to be almost dummy proof while the ascender may not be? I have no experience rock climbing and I've never heard of an ascender before this thread... I'd appreciate your input.

From: Bigwoods
12-Oct-17
With the prussic you need two hands to adjust the length of the climbing belt and have to lean towards the tree to take tension off of the belt. With the ascender you can adjust with one hand and don't have to take pressure off of the belt by leaning in as much. It is much quicker and more convenient.

From: SaddleReaper
12-Oct-17
Scoot,

For a linemans rope which you specifically asked about, an ascender is going to be quite a bit easier to manage and faster compared to a prussic. Prussic setups become very tight if you lean back while climbing, making it more difficult to loosen/ adjust easily 1 handed. I personally run the Ropeman MK1 in conjunction with a quality static rope and carabiner.

I've been told relying on the Ropeman isn't a good idea before... maybe more due to risk of functional failure than its material....since its forged 7000 series aluminum if my memory serves. I'm not too worried. As a design engineer I have a lot of faith in the ropeman 1 given the cross sectional area of the material around the mounting hole would have a shear/ tensile strength far exceeding what my 150lb body exerts on it.

With that said though I would not dream of using it without making a stopper knot at the end of the lineman rope, as well as tying it off, in the event that the torsion spring/bitting mechanism fails and the rope slips through.

I will post a pic of my lineman rope setup later when I get to the woods!

From: JTV
12-Oct-17

JTV's embedded Photo
JTV's embedded Photo
here s the same with the new carabiners ....

From: t-roy
12-Oct-17
Thanks for the info as well, guys! Gonna order the ascender and the rope tonight. My old linesmen’s type belt still works, but this new rig looks like it will be easier to maneuver with.

From: SaddleReaper
13-Oct-17

SaddleReaper's embedded Photo
SaddleReaper's embedded Photo
The brand of carabiner I run is a Camp USA Atlas model with a screw gate lock. 40kN major axis closed, and 13kN open strength. Super light for its size compared to the average steel carabiner that comes with your muddy and HSS lifelines/ linemans ropes etc.

From: SaddleReaper
13-Oct-17
FYI for anyone trying an ascender... DO NOT buy the Ropeman 2. It has much more aggressive teeth and will not do any favors to your lineman rope... The ropeman 1 is more than enough for biting power

From: SaddleReaper
13-Oct-17
Also for everyone's peace of mind.... 1kN = approx 224.81lbf. So the Ropeman MK1 has a 15kN break strength rating equivalent to 3,372lbf

From: Scoot
13-Oct-17
Great info thanks guys.

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