Carbon Express Arrows
Face Mask?
Equipment
Contributors to this thread:
smarba 13-Oct-17
White Falcon 13-Oct-17
Brotsky 13-Oct-17
longspeak74 13-Oct-17
Tracker 13-Oct-17
Franzen 13-Oct-17
Shawn 13-Oct-17
wyobullshooter 13-Oct-17
The last savage 13-Oct-17
PushCoArcher 13-Oct-17
The last savage 13-Oct-17
Jaquomo 13-Oct-17
JTV 13-Oct-17
Buffalo1 13-Oct-17
Swampbuck 13-Oct-17
Proline 13-Oct-17
APauls 13-Oct-17
glunker 13-Oct-17
TD 14-Oct-17
t-roy 14-Oct-17
Woods Walker 14-Oct-17
Bowriter 14-Oct-17
Highway Star 14-Oct-17
Blacktail Bob 14-Oct-17
buc i 313 14-Oct-17
The last savage 14-Oct-17
StickFlicker 14-Oct-17
Ron Niziolek 14-Oct-17
elk yinzer 15-Oct-17
Whopper Stopper 15-Oct-17
The END 15-Oct-17
smarba 16-Oct-17
smarba 16-Oct-17
Helgermite 16-Oct-17
WapitiBob 16-Oct-17
jjs 16-Oct-17
Mad Trapper 17-Oct-17
Lark Bunting 17-Oct-17
From: smarba
13-Oct-17
I can't help but notice that many extremely serious hunters (e.g. Randy Ulmer, Tom Miranda) wear paint or facemasks.

On the flip side I see a LOT of TV hunters who are arguably just as serious and effective hunting spot & stalk with bare faces, bare hands, even short sleeves with bare arms, etc. (e.g. Youngwild Lincoln Tapp, some of the hunters on Bowhunter Magazine TV).

I firmly believe that bare faces & hands can be picked up by game animals, both in bright sun and low light conditions. Why would anyone not use something on their hands and faces?

Do you think it is unnecessary? You're not going to change my mind, I'll keep mine covered, but what are your thoughts?

How do guys get away with bare faces and hands? In a recent episode of Youngwild, Lincoln was wearing short sleeves and face uncovered hunting Tule elk in bright sun and I just can't imagine me getting away with that.

From: White Falcon
13-Oct-17
Mask or head net for me.

From: Brotsky
13-Oct-17
It's all about movement. I use a mask or paint a lot but a lot of the time I don't. I use gloves religiously because of the movements of your hands during the draw sequence. I have had stalks made and blown both ways. I have not seen an advantage to either method frankly. What I do know is that if you move when the animal is looking at you it is game over. I think a mask or paint may help disguise smaller movements and let you get away with blinking and small facial movements or similar things but that is about it. As I said earlier, gloves I use every time due to the extreme movements of your hands during the draw cycle, anything helps at that point.

From: longspeak74
13-Oct-17
Beard

From: Tracker
13-Oct-17
I think its more a TV thing than a hunting thing. I would not read to much into what the Hollywood Hunters do. Face mask for me.

From: Franzen
13-Oct-17
It varies for me, depending on my background and what I'm hunting. Heavy foliage and darker timber with warm temps; probably nothing. Bright sun or open timber later in the season for whitetails; a face mask. For elk out west I haven't typically worn anything for convenience reasons, and the interactions seem to be more fast paced and not drawn out like whitetail in close.

From: Shawn
13-Oct-17
I agree with Frazen, depends where I am sitting and how much cover I have. I was filling some nuisance tags the last week, hunting in someones yard and I wore shorts, a tee shirt and nothing on my face or hands. Killed 2 deer on the same sit in a stand in a pine tree 12 ft off the ground. These deer are not used to being hunted so I got away with a lot. Shawn

13-Oct-17
For elk and moose, I stopping wearing camo on my face many years ago for three reasons....it was a pain in the butt to take off, it dried out my skin, but mostly because it's not necessary. If I were hunting a different species, my opinion may or may not be different.

13-Oct-17
I wear glasses so a mask usually fogs my glasses.so for 35 years I've been a religious face paint guy.it's certainly not for everyone,how can anyone spend several hundred bucks on great camo,then leave your hands and face untouched??I feel I can get away with more movement ( slow movement) painted up more so than than lily white.besides when we were kids,cowboys vs Indians ,was an all summer thing where I grew up,,and I was ALWAYS the painted up Indian.lol. Makes me feel invisible! If you feel it, you can live it,,it really works for me..

From: PushCoArcher
13-Oct-17
I always wear gloves and face mask. Can't stand face paint makes a mess plus who wants to do their make up before going hunting?

13-Oct-17
Me!

From: Jaquomo
13-Oct-17
Half facemask for me ever since a buddy told me 20 years ago that he couldn't see me out on the prairie, but my face looked like a white disk moving around. Sometimes I wear spandoflage if it's cool or a balaclava if it's cold.

I hunt on the ground almost exclusively. Not sure it's as critical in a tree with the sun at your back.

From: JTV
13-Oct-17

JTV's embedded Photo
JTV's embedded Photo
Mask .... cant stand face paint....

From: Buffalo1
13-Oct-17
My anchor point is my vane inside of my lips, therefore a mask is not practical as I cannot feel my vane. Beard will no longer work as it is now white in color. Therefore, if I camo face, face paint is the way to go.

I use Carbo Mask brand face paint. It is easily removed with make-up remover wipes.

Hands are always covered by gloves. I mainly use either black or brown silk liners from Winter Silks Company. A couple of pair will normally last me a season. They wear out easily, but they are warm, but at the same time, fairly thin material so they off good feel.

From: Swampbuck
13-Oct-17
Mask & gloves, definitely

From: Proline
13-Oct-17
I always have a mask on and a glove on my bow hand. I ran my trigger finger thru a band saw as a kid and lost a lot of feeling so I keep that hand free. Beard......nope. Nothing holds scent like hair. What u cram in your mouth is typically all over the beard.....

From: APauls
13-Oct-17
Elk / moose / bears I'm not concerned. Whitetails early season there is a lot of foliage and I feel covered. As soon as the leaves are gone here it's cold enough you need to wear a neckie which can get pulled up to the nose which is good enough for me

From: glunker
13-Oct-17
For elk hunting on the ground a face mask gives you an advantage in being seen. Unless you are a celebrity on TV and need to show your face go with a mask.

From: TD
14-Oct-17
Carl... you of all people know how I feel about the ASAT leafy 3/4 mask....... =D

maybe you don't need it for elk or moose..... but if you've done spot and stalk on axis deer (think coues....) I feel neked without it..... like the 3/4 as I can just wear it around my neck until needed.... and I like the choice of wearing whatever hat I like.

From: t-roy
14-Oct-17
3/4 mesh mask for me as well. Like Buffalo1, I can’t feel my anchor point as well with a heavier face cover. Paint is a pain, for me at least. Brown jersey gloves and hand warmers.

From: Woods Walker
14-Oct-17
I use a camo bucket hat that has an attached veil facemask that I sometimes use. I also try to work the shadows as much as I can and to have the sun either at the bacl of my head or to the side.

From: Bowriter
14-Oct-17
face and hands--two critical areas. I wear a mask/hood and gloves at all times in stand. Even during gun season. hate face paint but it will work.

From: Highway Star
14-Oct-17
I think a lot of the video is taken way before or way after the hunt. So you may not be seeing what they are really doing. With that said I wear a face mask, long sleeves.

Scott

14-Oct-17
I wouldn't believe what you see on TV. Most of it is made up and created for the show.

I don't have the experience nor have I had the success as internet experts here, but Brotsky hit the nail on the head. It’s MOVEMENT. I almost never where camo and I never where face paint or a mask. I do where a couple layers of blue or black poly liner gloves to keep my hands warm.

From: buc i 313
14-Oct-17
Years ago I was going to meet a friend at his stand at about 300 yds out or slightly closer I could see the whiteness of his face nothing else. His face looked like a white flag when he moved.

As B-Bob said it is movement more than mask or paint.

This said, I have used camo on my face, a mask, and sometimes I don't use anything. Just depends on my stand location.

14-Oct-17

The last savage's embedded Photo
The last savage's embedded Photo
Ahhh I love the paint!!!

From: StickFlicker
14-Oct-17
I normally wear a face net, and it has never bothered me to shoot with one on, nor have I felt any problem with my anchor point, etc.

From: Ron Niziolek
14-Oct-17
Like Bob, no paint or mask no matter what species I'm after.

From: elk yinzer
15-Oct-17
No paint, no mask, just don't move. Turkeys are another story but whitetails you can't convince me a facemask is an advantage. I hate wearing the things too so I am thankful it doesn't make a difference.

15-Oct-17
Paint for 40 years. The last few of years they have made removal simple3 with a better quality paint. Also don't forget they about give it away this time of year in the Halloween section of of most stores.

WS

From: The END
15-Oct-17
Neck gaiter pulled up to my nose and light gloves.

From: smarba
16-Oct-17
Overwhelmingly guys feel mask/gloves are beneficial (not just a "feel good" thing). As pointed out, I realize that TV can be shot out of sequence, but if you get a chance to watch Youngwild Tule elk hunt, they have 3 guys: Lincoln, dad filming & guide all without face covered and elk in the same frame so I'm sure they are hunting with out facial coverage. Maybe it's because they are on private and the elk aren't as skittish as what I'm used to, but I look at the movements they are doing and say to myself "no way I'd get away with that on elk".

TD I agree the ASAT leafy has to be one of the best breakup patterns/textures available. That said, the quality of Sitka gear has me using mainly that and I've found the pattern to be extremely effective.

With regards to anchor point, I prefer to have facemask pulled just below my nose, but practice with it both positions just in case.

From: smarba
16-Oct-17
I should also add that while I'm certain it CAN be done with bare face and hands (I'm really focusing on spot & stalk on the ground) and it CAN be done without any camouflage at all, why would anyone want to risk it?

Another similar issue is the new trend to use an all black (and often shiny) bow. Again, guys like Ulmer spray everything flat drabs. It's a simple thing to do, why don't more folks do it? Or maybe that goes for everything: it's numerous little details that make the difference...

From: Helgermite
16-Oct-17
Either can make a difference if you get caught moving but the game is unsure what it saw. I've used both, but prefer face paint do to unaltered anchor point or interference with the string in anyway.

From: WapitiBob
16-Oct-17

From: jjs
16-Oct-17
Spando and shades, been ground hunting whitetails for a few yrs and I swear they can pick off the whites of your eyes on hunting pressured whitetails.

From: Mad Trapper
17-Oct-17
The sticker on my mirror in the morning says... "What would Blacktail Bob do?"

From: Lark Bunting
17-Oct-17

Lark Bunting's embedded Photo
I called him in to 25 yards, no face paint, no gloves, no sleeves. I figured he wanted to fight or f... Hormones are a b!+(#
Lark Bunting's embedded Photo
I called him in to 25 yards, no face paint, no gloves, no sleeves. I figured he wanted to fight or f... Hormones are a b!+(#

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