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Contributors to this thread:
midwest 14-Oct-17
Hawkeye 14-Oct-17
BOWNBIRDHNTR 14-Oct-17
midwest 14-Oct-17
ElkNut1 14-Oct-17
Norseman 14-Oct-17
t-roy 14-Oct-17
Destroyer350 14-Oct-17
midwest 14-Oct-17
Ermine 14-Oct-17
midwest 14-Oct-17
Trial153 14-Oct-17
Pat Lefemine 14-Oct-17
TD 14-Oct-17
t-roy 14-Oct-17
Scoot 14-Oct-17
loopmtz 14-Oct-17
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Bowfreak 14-Oct-17
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midwest 15-Oct-17
t-roy 15-Oct-17
midwest 15-Oct-17
iceman 15-Oct-17
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Huntcell 15-Oct-17
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From: midwest
14-Oct-17

midwest's Link
Cam has been running for around 24 hours so far and nearing 100 miles into this 238 mile trail race in southern Utah. His brother Taylor Spike is also running this one and looks like they are currently still close together. Both in the top 20!

If you are interested, you can follow his progress at my link. Go Cam Go!

From: Hawkeye
14-Oct-17
That guy is unbelievable. Inspiring to see what he accomplishes!

From: BOWNBIRDHNTR
14-Oct-17
Cam is a great ambassador to both hunting and fitness. I turned my son onto him and his accomplishments a couple years ago and tomorrow my son will attempt his first marathon.

From: midwest
14-Oct-17
BOWNBIRDHNTR, That's great...is he running the Des Moines marathon?

From: ElkNut1
14-Oct-17
Yes sir, Cam is an inspiration! I love his spirit & dedication!

ElkNut/Paul

From: Norseman
14-Oct-17
Great job! But I thought it was about her shot a 240 pt Utah Muley. ??

From: t-roy
14-Oct-17
Good luck Wyatt!

From: Destroyer350
14-Oct-17
The guy is a beast. Its crazy what the human body can do.

From: midwest
14-Oct-17

midwest's embedded Photo
midwest's embedded Photo
This is the elk forum, Norseman...duh. :-D

But I did see he arrowed a 208 muley in CO this year.

From: Ermine
14-Oct-17
That's insane! lots of miles!

Wow 208" mulie. That would be the new typical world record wouldn't it?

From: midwest
14-Oct-17
He says 208" gross.

From: Trial153
14-Oct-17
good on Cam, hopefully he stays safe

From: Pat Lefemine
14-Oct-17
I'm tired after driving 238 miles in my air conditioned truck, good lord.

From: TD
14-Oct-17
Not sure I could stay awake 24 hours anymore...... wow.

From: t-roy
14-Oct-17
It’s encouraging to know I’m in better shape than at least one guy!

From: Scoot
14-Oct-17
Crazy... He's really impressive with regard to physical conditioning. I can't imagine doing that.

From: loopmtz
14-Oct-17
That is an amazing feat. Good for Cam!

14-Oct-17
There is one simple thing that Cam said that sticks with me..... something to this effect.

" I'm not a good shot, I was never a great hunter, I have to work extra hard at everything I do, I'm just not a natural"

That about sums up his total dedication, amazing.

From: midwest
14-Oct-17

midwest's embedded Photo
midwest's embedded Photo
This 33 year old school teacher from Golden, CO is currently in 1st place at about mile 160. 10 miles ahead of the 2nd place runner and 40 miles ahead of Cam and his brother....wow! She's headed up to the highest elevation of the course right now.

Cam and Taylor are still together and in the top 15 towards the head of the pack.

From: Bowfreak
14-Oct-17
Talking about Beastmode. Wow!

14-Oct-17
These people are remarkable.

From: Ermine
14-Oct-17
Wow that teacher is impressive! What a badass

From: BULELK1
15-Oct-17
That is a beautiful area to have that race in.

Even in the dark the silhouette's are spectacular.

Good luck, Robb

From: midwest
15-Oct-17
Courtney just passed the 200 mile mark and is still way out front.

Cam and his brother are past the 160 mark and still in the top 15. It's been 48 hrs. since they started!

From: t-roy
15-Oct-17
These guys are unbelievable. Is the California wildfire smoke causing any issues for this race, Nick?

From: midwest
15-Oct-17
Not that I've heard. I guess the days have been pretty hot, though.

These ultras facinate the hell out of me. Can't imagine the mental grind it must be. Not just the race itself but the daily training required.

From: iceman
15-Oct-17
Unreal stuff. I can't imagine..

From: elk yinzer
15-Oct-17
Kind of nuts if you ask me, but impressive nonetheless. Like going on a three day bender as opposed to drinking a 6 pack....the recovery from this has to be miserable.

From: ElkNut1
15-Oct-17
Truly an amazing feat! Heck just to walk that distance non stop could be brutal!

ElkNut/Paul

From: Owl
15-Oct-17
I am fairly certain whatever bear mean enough to make me run 240 miles would kill me before I made it, so no need to do it.

Curious to know where these people score in a personality trait exam.

From: goelk
15-Oct-17
i'm rooting for the school teacher. love Cam but when you have four girls, go girl go!!

From: otcWill
15-Oct-17
She's crushing the field with under 19 miles to go! Badass

From: Huntcell
15-Oct-17
RUN! CAM RUN!

From: Bou'bound
15-Oct-17
Run cam you can catch her. Go go go

From: Jaquomo
15-Oct-17
I think it's awesome that a 33 year old school teacher who doesn't look like a stick of jerky is crushing professional fitness athletes. That's excellent!

15-Oct-17
I feel honored to be a part of this race too in that I asked Cam on Instagram if the race was drug tested and he blocked me from his page. I was just curious.

Drugs or not it is really incredible what these people are able to do, and that woman beating them all so handily is mind boggling, any online pics she just looks normal.

From: Bowboy
15-Oct-17
Unbelievable what some people can accomplish. I wouldn't want them chasing me.

From: patdel
15-Oct-17
Jaq, x2. Pretty inspirational if you stop and think about it. Good for her.

From: midwest
15-Oct-17

midwest's embedded Photo
midwest's embedded Photo
Courtney is just a few miles from the finish. What an amazing accomplishment!

Cam and his brother are over and past the highest elevation of the race at a little over 12K around mile 180.

From: Z Barebow
15-Oct-17
There are some tough runners out there.

In my first 50k, the top two finishers overall were women. Grab the prize.

From: Scoot
15-Oct-17
Z and others how common is it for gals to win these ultra ultra long races?

These people amaze me and I can't even fathom found this.

From: Huntcell
15-Oct-17

Huntcell 's Link
Her name is Courtney Dauwalter, She has the American women’s record for most miles in 24 hours at 155.391 miles. Even more amazing she runs numerous high mileage races a year sometimes in as little as 2 months apart. Interesting interview at the link.

From: midwest
15-Oct-17
She slept a total of 21 minutes during the race, crossed the finish at just under 58 hours, and the first thing she does is crack a tall boy IPA. I think I'm in love!

From: HUNT MAN
15-Oct-17
Wow!

15-Oct-17

Kevin @ Wisconsin's embedded Photo
Amazing!
Kevin @ Wisconsin's embedded Photo
Amazing!

From: Jaquomo
15-Oct-17
Sounds like she'll be ready to go again by the time Cam finishes..

From: ElkNut1
15-Oct-17
Wow, that young woman is a BEAST! Unreal yet impressive!

ElkNut/Paul

15-Oct-17
Speechless.

From: Brotsky
15-Oct-17
Unreal! Speechless at how tough and driven these people are! Courtney is amazing!

From: midwest
15-Oct-17
Another amazing woman in this race is Pam Reed. 56 years old mother of 5 and currrently in 7th place!

She's run 100 100 mile races. Her bio will blow you away.

From: Jaquomo
15-Oct-17
Incredible. Is it true that Courtney is waiting at the finish line with orange slices and juice boxes for the rest of the guys? ;-)

From: t-roy
15-Oct-17
The Ethiopians or Kenyans seem to dominate the Olympic distance events. Are they involved at all in these types of events as well, Nick?

From: Tilzbow
15-Oct-17
All these people amaze me and those women are particularly incredible! I'm not sure at what point in my life being an athletic woman became okay but I'm for it!

From: Z Barebow
15-Oct-17
t-roy- I am not aware of Kenyans or Ethiopians competing in ultras. (These guys run marathons for the money. The money isn't big in ultras) These races are more about endurance, fueling, and mental management. Speed isn't a requirement.

Scoot- I would say there is much less of a gap between men and women in mountain ultras vs marathon and shorter. I am no expert, but I think mental toughness rules the day. Back in 2010, Diana Finkel led the Hardrock 100 until the 90th mile and still finished 2nd overall. (And she almost died after the race due to kidney failure). Gives you an idea of how far the mind can push the body. Google Ann Trason- She absolutely dominated Western States in the 90's. I think she won the women's division 7 years in a row and 14 times overall. She also took 2nd overall in the Leadville 100. One of the toughest runners ever.

15-Oct-17
Unbelievable!

From: Ermine
15-Oct-17
Wow these people are awesome! I thought I was doing good when I ran for 3 miles ha

From: TEmbry
16-Oct-17
Amazing what the human body can accomplish, but no way in hell do I want to push MY body to those limits haha. I want to still be able to walk upright by 65.

From: Paul@thefort
16-Oct-17
There are some very good books on long distant running. 'Born To Run' comes to mind.

Very special people that do this for sure. Not your every day Joe off the street. my best, Paul

From: Scoot
16-Oct-17
For those who haven't read "Born to Run", it's an excellent read! I'm not a real runner at all, but I loved the book. The author does an incredible job of weaving together several different, seemingly unrelated, story lines in a way that really works.

16-Oct-17
I wonder what she charges to pack out and elk by herself whole?

From: SBH
16-Oct-17
Unreal accomplishment to even finish that race. Job well done by all who competed. That's amazing.

From: RickE
16-Oct-17
Yeh that's all nice and good but does she have a cool slogan like "Keep Plodding" and maybe a Hoyt and UA sponsorship.....pffft. Not really that impressed with her performance. LOL

From: Brotsky
16-Oct-17
I've always felt myself to be mentally tough and able to take just about anything. These guys and gals are on a whole other level from what I could ever hope to be. Incredible athletes and the guts they have...wow.

From: APauls
16-Oct-17
Animals. I can't even comprehend this. It's like trying to imagine heaven. The brain just twists after a while and I give up.

From: BOWNBIRDHNTR
16-Oct-17

BOWNBIRDHNTR's embedded Photo
Wyatt and Annette after the run.
BOWNBIRDHNTR's embedded Photo
Wyatt and Annette after the run.
Hey guys, thanks for the well wishes for Wyatt. Yes, he ran the Des Moines Marathon. My wife ran the half. Both finished strong.

Wyatt set a goal of benching 300 lbs and running a full marathon this year....after recovering from a broken hand that required surgery and two pins. He benched 315 lbs last spring and completed his marathon yesterday (while wearing his KEEP HAMMERING Tshirt). Very proud of him....and Annette!

From: midwest
16-Oct-17
Congrats Wyatt and Annette!

From: Mark Watkins
16-Oct-17
Congrats to all!!

Mark

From: tobinsghost
16-Oct-17
Midwest X2!

From: longbow
16-Oct-17
I have run some ultras and been blown off the trail by women some people are just freaks when it comes to them. Its about will not skill after 50 miles but some have the rare combination of both.

From: loopmtz
16-Oct-17
Amazing!

From: Beav
16-Oct-17
Crazy stuff! Great accomplishment.

From: BOWNBIRDHNTR
16-Oct-17
Cam made it to the finish and his brother is almost there. Amazing what the body can accomplish with a strong mind and lots of heart!

From: Scrappy
16-Oct-17
Thanks Nick for shaming me with this thread. I've been back from elk hunting for almost two weeks and I finally went on my first run today. A slow 3.5 miles but it felt good getting back on the road.

From: TreeWalker
16-Oct-17
They asked for volunteers after racers finished the Boston Marathon. Urine and blood samples were collected from 28 runners. Result. 8 in 10 had kidney damage similar to patients in ICU. I presume in an Ultra race is closer to 10 in 10. Usually is temporary damage. Usually. https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2017/04/04/marathon-running-linked-to-kidney-injury/

16-Oct-17
Tipping my hat to these increbile athletes for setting such lofty goals and achieving what most couldn't dream of doing.

From: midwest
16-Oct-17

midwest's embedded Photo
midwest's embedded Photo
midwest's embedded Photo
midwest's embedded Photo
Here he is....damaged kidneys and all. 240 miles, 79 hrs. running, 2 hrs. sleep. Faster than his Bigfoot 200 last year. Incredible.

From: midwest
16-Oct-17
Scrappy, you're welcome. :-)

You wouldn't believe all the crap I just signed up for or commited to for next year....I'm going to need a kidney transplant for sure!

From: grizzly
16-Oct-17
Why does Cam even bother stalking the animals anymore ? Couldn't he just run them into the ground ?

From: t-roy
16-Oct-17
Jeff....Wyatt was probably just jealous of all the hardware you’re carrying in you ankle, so he just had to get some for himself!

Congrats to him and Annette as well. Quite an accomplishment!

From: elkmo
17-Oct-17
"Names Forrest...Forrest Gump"

From: tobinsghost
17-Oct-17
Congrats to them all!

From: GotBowAz
17-Oct-17
Absolutely incredible feat. I ran cross country in school when I was a kid and generally finished in the top 5. I don't think I would call it endurance race though, not compared to how Cameron runs typically everyday. I watch his pod casts and he certainly is driven as I believe all these runners are. The dedication is and determination just blows me away. I get pushing the limits and the reasons for most behind it. My hats off to all of them including those that dropped out.

From: goelk
17-Oct-17
Congradulations to all and girl rules??

From: David A.
17-Oct-17
"no way in hell do I want to push MY body to those limits haha. I want to still be able to walk upright by 65"

Makes me cringe every time I see someone running on the pavement or hard surfaces. Maybe Cam will not suffer arthritis as he ages, but I'd say the odds are he and others who train this hard will. As an ex track athlete, I feel "moderation in all" may indeed be the wisest strategy.

From: midwest
18-Oct-17
Please don't spread the "running causes arthritis" myth.

From: archer
18-Oct-17
If we had more people like him advocating for us we would be much better off.

From: grossklw
18-Oct-17
+1 Midwest

From: ELKMAN
18-Oct-17
Courtney is incredible. I must say though events like this really seem something akin to smoking cigarettes or heavy drinking. There is no way it doesn't remove years from your life. There are limits to what is "good"... JMO

From: midwest
18-Oct-17
Good Lord...

18-Oct-17

From: a'Lish
18-Oct-17
Congrats to all of these badass folks who ran this...pretty amazing!!!

From: Z Barebow
19-Oct-17
Here are some post race comments from Courtney/excerpt fromTrail Runner Magazine

Dauwalter wouldn’t sleep much during the 57 hours she was on course. She laid down for 20 minutes at mile 190, “Thinking I would sleep,” she says. “But my brain wouldn’t shut off.”

Five miles later, though, fatigue set in. “I couldn’t keep my eyes open,” she says. “I was zigzagging down road.”

She laid down on the trail and slept for exactly one minute, with her pacer as a human alarm clock. “It was the deepest sleep I’ve ever had,” she says. “When I woke up, I thought he’d let me sleep for 30 minutes. After that one minute, I was fully alert and totally rejuvenated.”

The rest of the race was far from smooth sailing, though. By the second night, she was hallucinating in earnest. “Everything in the forest was a face or an animal or a person playing a cello,” she says. “I saw a leopard in a hammock that looked pretty comfortable.”

From: WapitiBob
19-Oct-17
Sounds like my past life in the 70's.

From: tobinsghost
19-Oct-17
Yup, sounds like liver damage to me! We need a sarcasm font!

19-Oct-17
Lol wapiti

From: bigbulls6
20-Oct-17
Wow incredible athletes

From: osage
21-Oct-17
I think I'll jog on over to the fridge.

From: Owl
21-Oct-17
Z Barebow, those quotes about her sleep are fascinating.

As far as arthritis goes, put down your corn chips, sodas, coffee, etc. , go for a jog and make sure you're sleeping deeply enough to have memorable dreams. If you're not dreaming, you're not repairing.

From: BTM
22-Oct-17
"They asked for volunteers after racers finished the Boston Marathon. Urine and blood samples were collected from 28 runners. Result. 8 in 10 had kidney damage similar to patients in ICU." Yeah, that's the only reason I didn't enter the race. Would've won if I had. :)

From: Butternut40
01-Nov-17

Butternut40's Link
On the morning news. MN native.

From: Hawkeye
03-Nov-17
You guys wont believe this................... This morning I was talking to a good friend of mine. I have known her for years--really sweet lady and always enjoy seeing her. For years she had told me about her daughter-in-law and how she loved to run, was a great endurance athlete, and also how she had lost her vision in a race some time back. We discussed corneal edema and how that can happen etc but I never put two and two together.

So today she is leaving and says, "Oh...by the way---my daughter-in-law Courtney just won that big race out West." she said in passing like it was no big deal. I stopped and said, 'What?!"

THAT'S YOUR DAUGHTER-IN-LAW???????????????????? :0

Turns out it was indeed Courtney Dauwalter! I had been hearing stories about her for years and never realized it was her mother-in-law telling me! Ha ha. I asked her if I could share this story with Bowsite because I was so struck my the irony but also by how impressive their family is. We discussed Cam and how Joe Rogan was out here to follow Cam but in the end had invited Courtney to fly out to LA to do a podcast with Joe.

She is so humble and kind :) Just thought was a cool story to share.

Small world guys :)

From: GotBowAz
03-Nov-17
Hawkeye, that's is what you call a small world. very cool story there.

From: David A.
04-Nov-17
The medical research on running vs. arthritis is mixed. That said if you are running long distances on hard surfaces, I would say the odds are you are definitely increasing wear and tear that increases your chance of arthritis. Cam not only runs to the extreme, he also hikes carrying heavy rocks. The Egyptians who built the pyramids did the same and I've read their skeletons and others who have hard physical lives showed extensive arthritis in the joints. Of course some people who exercise very little do as well...but in general I would advise to give serious thought to "wear and tear"...

From: Bowfreak
04-Nov-17
Started listening to the podcast with Courtney. She is very humble and seems like a cool person. She took 2 naps. One nap was 20 or 21 minutes and the other was for 1. Her diet consists of beer and nachos.

From: Catscratch
04-Nov-17
Very cool stuff! I've ran a lot of marathons and ultra''s but never something like what these people have done. Always wanted to do a really long race but never have.

As far as health and exercise goes there are a couple things to remember; first - the body will respond to stimulus and build itself stronger if pushed to do so... stronger muscles, stoner tendons, and more dense bones to handle the stress placed on it. It will also go the opposite direction and get weaker with no stress. Astronauts for instance can't exercise enough in microgravity to keep bone loss from happening. Second - humans like to look for blame. If a runner has knee problems it obviously "because" they ran too much. But if a non-runner has knee problems it just due to bad luck. Fact is a certain percentage of the population is going to have ailments no matter what they are doing. As said above; research is mixed at best on long term exercise causing problems.

Once again, awesome accomplishments for these people.

From: David A.
04-Nov-17
It's not long term exercise, which I am in favor of, rather it's repetitive long term extreme stress esp. on the joints as in running on the pavement. At age 68 I still run somewhat, but on grass.

From: midwest
04-Nov-17
Yeah, I probably won't do any 240 mile ultras because I'm afraid I might get arthritis or kidney damage. Otherwise, I'd be all over it. smh...

From: Scrappy
04-Nov-17
Like always, there those that can DO then there is THOSE that can't or won't SO THEY MAKE EXCUSES. Good thing I'm sitting in this tree or I might be tempted to go for a run.

From: Mike/ky
06-Nov-17
Much respect for those athletes

From: LINK
06-Nov-17
Just like most heart disease, arthritis can be mostly genetic. My wife tore her right ACL in high school basketball. She tore her left last year while running on flat ground. Just the other day she re-injured her right playing on the floor with my 4 year old. She could blame her knees on high school athletics, I blame it on terrible genetics. ;)

06-Nov-17
Very true Link,,,, I eat clean, am a swim fit nut, and at 67, can go like heck,,,,, but 3 weeks ago, felt a twinge, just slight, on my right side..... went in..... emergency open heart surgery, I was lucky,,,,, now I am in rehab, waiting for my spring hunting.... its was in the genes,,,,,,,,

I admire all these extreme runners, if I could do it, I would, like the passion

From: midwest
06-Nov-17
Speedy recovery, ground hunter!

From: tobinsghost
07-Nov-17
Catscratch, the only stoner tendons I know reside here in CO!!

From: Catscratch
07-Nov-17
Lol, "stronger" tendons... STRONGER. Damn phone with auto correct. I was pretty proud of myself for typing all that up on a phone without it sounding like gibberish. I guess maybe I was too proud. :)

From: LINK
07-Nov-17
Well wishes ground hunter. Half my family has the heart attack in their 50’s the other half lives to be 100. Doing my best to not help heart disease out but I’m praying I got my health genes from my grandmothers family. My grandmothers cooking consists of a lot of butter but she mows her yard, drives 40 miles to church every Sunday and won’t let us put a sprinkler system in so she doesn’t have to drag hoses. She’s 87, buried three husbands and looking to live to 100 like her dad.

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