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Contributors to this thread:
dmann 23-Nov-17
jdee 23-Nov-17
WapitiBob 23-Nov-17
Fulldraw1972 23-Nov-17
Kurt 23-Nov-17
Deertick 24-Nov-17
Deertick 24-Nov-17
dmann 24-Nov-17
Kevin @ Wisconsin 24-Nov-17
APauls 24-Nov-17
Backpack Hunter 24-Nov-17
WapitiBob 24-Nov-17
Tracker 24-Nov-17
Native Okie 24-Nov-17
butcherboy 24-Nov-17
Alaska at heart 24-Nov-17
WapitiBob 24-Nov-17
Pyrannah 26-Jan-18
Scrappy 26-Jan-18
WapitiBob 26-Jan-18
Pyrannah 26-Jan-18
Scrappy 26-Jan-18
trophyhill 26-Jan-18
Beendare 26-Jan-18
WapitiBob 26-Jan-18
Charlie Rehor 26-Jan-18
LKH 26-Jan-18
Scrappy 26-Jan-18
Pyrannah 26-Jan-18
WYelkhunter 27-Jan-18
Beendare 27-Jan-18
RutnStrut 27-Jan-18
jims 27-Jan-18
Beendare 28-Jan-18
RutnStrut 28-Jan-18
From: dmann
23-Nov-17
Is it possible for the on x app to fully replace a GPS unit? I just downloaded the app and have been using the free trial to start planning a wyoming antelope hunt. Had been considering purchasing a GPS unit, but was wondering if anyone just relies on the on x app.

From: jdee
23-Nov-17
In NM elk hunting this year my buddy had an app on his i phone and it was really good but he did lose his signal a few time but my Garmin gps with a NM map from on x never missed a beat . He said let me see your gps a few times.

From: WapitiBob
23-Nov-17
Simple answer, depends what data you put on your gps or phone. I used a garmin Montana, android phone, and iPhone this year, all with onx. The gps had more map sources than than the phone but I used the phone way more than the gps. I have since added Gaia to the iPhone. The phones work very well and I have had no problems with them, neither have my hunting partners. Flawless in the field, map download and web map sync has been painless as well. I would recommend either app.

The web map is where the limitations are but both onx and Gaia are updating features regularly.

From: Fulldraw1972
23-Nov-17
I used Gaia app on my iPhone on my Wyoming elk hunt. I see no need to pay on x. Not to mention there app crashes on me too many times. Gaia will show private from public. The layer I use didn’t show who owned the private though. Just like I see no need to use a gps for the lower 48 either.

From: Kurt
23-Nov-17
No need for a GPS north of the border either. GAIA on the iPhone in BC and NWT has worked perfectly.

From: Deertick
24-Nov-17
I've used the Gaia GPS App on Kodiak earlier this month. Very useful. I liked it much more than I thought I would, and, in fact, I'll be using it over my Garmin this year. Much easier to use and layer maps. And cheaper. The only bad thing is the need for power backup, but it's not bad for a day or two at a time, and I could get rid of my habit of keeping tracking on.

From: Deertick
24-Nov-17
I've used the Gaia GPS App on Kodiak earlier this month. Very useful. I liked it much more than I thought I would, and, in fact, I'll be using it over my Garmin this year. Much easier to use and layer maps. And cheaper. The only bad thing is the need for power backup, but it's not bad for a day or two at a time, and I could get rid of my habit of keeping tracking on.

From: dmann
24-Nov-17
Does gaia have the same layers as on x, as far as public such as blm, walk in areas?

24-Nov-17
I did the free trial for on X maps too.

At first I thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread. Because I did not realize the GPS would work Without cell signal. It was great.

But then reality hit. I think it really depends which phone you have and battery life. The phone I have did not work so well. It ran through batteries even with everything else shut down in the background pretty quickly.

I am used to my little Garmin GPS being on for days at a time and still having plenty of juice left.

I wish someone made a Mophie like case for my phone that I could plug two AA lithium batteries into and be good to go for the whole hunt.

From: APauls
24-Nov-17
I no longer use my GPS. The only thing i could potentially see myself using it for is if I know I want to lay down a "trail." Phones seem to use more battery on that for whatever reason.

24-Nov-17
I still prefer the GPS, but it probably won't be long and the phone will end up taking over......as much as they cost they should.

From: WapitiBob
24-Nov-17
If Garmin would get out of the 18th century they'd at least have a fighting chance.

From: Tracker
24-Nov-17
I use both GAIA and On X but still carry my GPS. Will most likely not renew On X next year.

From: Native Okie
24-Nov-17
"If Garmin would get out of the 18th century they'd at least have a fighting chance."

But if you carry an inreach their app great with downloaded maps like the apps you mention.

From: butcherboy
24-Nov-17
I use my garmin inreach explorer synced with my phone. I use the phone for ease of texting messages to family through the gps and to have a larger view of maps. I would rather use the on x chip in the gps than the app on a phone.

24-Nov-17
My hunting buddy has the paid On X Hunt app and was showing me how it worked this spring while turkey hunting. There was a section of land for sale that we ran across and I decided to walk the perimeter with his phone to see how the boundaries lined up. There was no markers or flags to denote the boundaries until I got to the northeast corner. On X told me I was right on the corner and I looked up to see a marker about 5' away. That impressed me....enough that I downloaded the free version this fall and have been playing with it in the places I hunt.

From: WapitiBob
24-Nov-17
""If Garmin would get out of the 18th century they'd at least have a fighting chance."

But if you carry an inreach their app great with downloaded maps like the apps you mention. "

It's not just maps, it's the memory, the screen, the custom map tile limit, the locked .jnx folder, the cpu ....

They were on the right track with the Montera and they just quit mid stride.

From: Pyrannah
26-Jan-18
which GAIA app are you using?

All Trails, Hiking and Running Free GPS Classic $19.99 GPS Hiking Maps, Hike App Free GPS TopoBundle $19.99

I'm looking at the on chip which is compatible to my GPS but it is pricey

thanks

From: Scrappy
26-Jan-18
Im with pyrannah my Gaia app is showing a basic for 19.99 or premium for 39.99. Which one are you guys using?

From: WapitiBob
26-Jan-18
Premium had the better sat imagery

From: Pyrannah
26-Jan-18
I downloaded the free version, I then have in apppurchases I can make

Maybe buying it up front just includes all at once

From: Scrappy
26-Jan-18

Scrappy's Link
I found this info on Gaia membership vs. Premium. There's a discount down at the bottom. Clicking on the premium says error not available, clicking on regular members says discount will be applied at check out.

Looks like the premium version is the one that would be most useful but will wait til other guys that have been using it to chime in.

From: trophyhill
26-Jan-18
I'll stick with my 18th century Garmin 60csx. I've been right beside guys with the fancy newer gps' and had signals when they did not. Both In CO & NM. It's been a valuable and reliable tool for sure. Don't trust a phone app not to mention how fast they must run your battery down......

From: Beendare
26-Jan-18

Well, well Bob finally switched to GAIA. Good, I welcome his cleverness on making everything better/more functional.

Well of course Steve Jobs was right. Your phone will become a do all device. It won't be long until there is a SPOT app for your phone....or InReach equal.

In another 10 year GPS units will go the way of the rotary dial home phone.

From: WapitiBob
26-Jan-18
Garmin could have kept onx and Gaia from ever becoming players. They're giving up their handheld market by choice near as I can tell.

26-Jan-18
Is the 20 or 40 bucks a one time charge?

From: LKH
26-Jan-18
What's and app?????

From: Scrappy
26-Jan-18

Scrappy's Link
Charlie i see it's an annual fee.

I emailed them earlier about the 10% off on the premium version. They emailed me back with a good link.

From: Pyrannah
26-Jan-18
Thanks scrappy!

From: WYelkhunter
27-Jan-18
"In NM elk hunting this year my buddy had an app on his i phone and it was really good but he did lose his signal a few time but my Garmin gps with a NM map from on x never missed a beat . He said let me see your gps a few times."

If you buddy had known he could pre-download everything he needed he would not have needed cell service. He could have put his phone in airplane mode, gotten much better battery life(with my phone it lasts just as long or longer than my brothers garmin) and never had to ask you to use your gps.

From: Beendare
27-Jan-18
Bob, Garmins in trouble. It’s the whole Kodak thing all over again. Carmen had to be in a tough spot, they didn’t want to cannibalize their lucrative GPS unit sales, much like Kodak didn’t want to wreck their lucrative film business. But look where it left Kodak.

I’m not a big business guy but can you imagine a corporate meeting at Garmin 10 yrs ago were a very smart underling tells the big bosses they need to abandon the GPS units for an app? I bet that went over like a lead balloon...

Same for the guy at Kodak that had the audacity to suggest, “digital is the future”

I bet they canned more than one of those digital guys and now they are retired millionaires from some digital start up

From: RutnStrut
27-Jan-18
I have both On X and Gaia my Android phone. I like them both but. They eat battery life and it's a pain to have my extra battery plugged in while I'm actually using my phone. Plus a handheld is more rugged and weather proof. Now for me to pick a new handheld, any suggestions?

From: jims
27-Jan-18
I hunt a lot alone and often in super remote areas that don't get IPhone reception. The ideal scenario would be an InReach that has gps plus accepts OnX. Not sure if that is possible without using both a gps and InReach? It's re-assuring having satellite coverage in remote areas with InReach plus old reliable gps and my batteries have never gone blank on extended trips.

From: Beendare
28-Jan-18
GAIA Isn’t a battery hog, it’s either wrong settings or operator error

From: RutnStrut
28-Jan-18
"GAIA Isn’t a battery hog, it’s either wrong settings or operator error"

With me it's almost always operator error.

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