Outfitter Reports - Wow!
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Contributors to this thread:
Pat Lefemine 06-Dec-17
JL 06-Dec-17
brettpsu 06-Dec-17
bentshaft 06-Dec-17
bigswivle 06-Dec-17
kakiat kid 06-Dec-17
Quinn @work 06-Dec-17
Guardian Hunter 07-Dec-17
Grubby 07-Dec-17
Charlie Rehor 07-Dec-17
The last savage 07-Dec-17
Missouribreaks 07-Dec-17
Trial153 07-Dec-17
Drop tine 07-Dec-17
jrb(CO) 07-Dec-17
M.Pauls 07-Dec-17
Bob H in NH 08-Dec-17
PECO 08-Dec-17
PECO 08-Dec-17
greg simon 08-Dec-17
Trial153 08-Dec-17
JSW 08-Dec-17
ago0784 09-Dec-17
Quinn @work 14-Dec-17
bowbender77 14-Dec-17
TD 14-Dec-17
brettpsu 14-Dec-17
Quinn @work 14-Dec-17
Rut Nut 14-Dec-17
brettpsu 14-Dec-17
From: Pat Lefemine
06-Dec-17

Pat Lefemine's Link
Our outfitter reports have been outstanding this year. And by that I mean, honest, positive and negative reviews with several responses from the outfitters. Keep them coming. This is a valuable service to the hunting community, it helps us maintain a leadership position as a credible review site, and it has even helped many hunters get some recourse. The only downside is I get a lot of lawsuit threats but that doesn't bother me.

Just one request. When you fill out a positive outfitter review it's a big help to include a photo of your kill - assuming you got one. I noticed a lot of guys talk about great hunts and taking an animal they are proud of - but they leave off a photo. Please consider adding that.

Thanks again - Pat

From: JL
06-Dec-17
Pat, how do you add a pic after the fact? I did my hunt back in May. Thanks....John

From: brettpsu
06-Dec-17
Rarely do outfitted hunts but the few I have done all have come from bowsite outfitter reports, outfitters that sponsor bowsite or bowsiters themselves.

From: bentshaft
06-Dec-17
The outfitter reports is what brought me to this site the first time.

From: bigswivle
06-Dec-17
Great way to pass time in the tree

From: kakiat kid
06-Dec-17
Pat, I'd like to add one after the fact...is that possible?

From: Quinn @work
06-Dec-17
WOW is right. It's amazing the amount of "hunters" that book hunts with these unheard of "outfitters" and some of the most negatively publicized outfitters and then provide a report of the terrible hunt they had. Damn some people are just plain dumb! Sometimes it's too good to be true and that great deal they got was for a reason.

How many guys will post a bad review for Whitetail Heaven next year? 76 hunters in camp? Just the name of the Outfitter alone would steer me away. Come on guys do your research before opening your check book.

Book a hunt with bowsite outfitters or ones recommended by regulars on this site.

07-Dec-17
I don't know of a better way to start looking at outfitters.

From: Grubby
07-Dec-17
Ha! My buddy just returned from whitetail heaven! Left after day 2, should have checked bowsite!

07-Dec-17
I love the one star reports! 91.3% are cheap,rifle hunts. Seems the wronged Hunter discovers the Internet AFTER his hunt and some how finds Bowsite.

07-Dec-17
I'm not an outfitter but I do run a 14 ft CATARAFT smallmouth guide service on the mid Potomac,,I just can't imagine any guide hunting or fishing treating clients the way I've read on a few of the negitave reviews,,,its almost criminal,thousands of dollars lost,,dreams smashed,,vacation time lost...a nightmare to say the least,,,,Pat your having an outfitter reports are a great service...

07-Dec-17

Missouribreaks's Link
Ernie Jablonsky, Montana Poacher

I always worry about unknowingly getting tied up with outfitters such as Ernie Jablonsky. Drugs, poaching, trespassing,....... and the hunters may not know they are now part of it. This is a good thread and Bowsite is an excellent source to review hunter/outfitter experiences.

From: Trial153
07-Dec-17
The outfitter reviews are excellent on here. Keep up the good work on the site guys.

From: Drop tine
07-Dec-17
Thanks for passing along that article. I elk hunted with Ernie and Mitch two years ago and had a very good experience. Was planning on going back this fall if I got drawn.

From: jrb(CO)
07-Dec-17
I have a couple friends that outfit. To hear them talk, there should be a rating service that outfitters can look at before booking certain hunters ??

From: M.Pauls
07-Dec-17
Jrb, i think xbowfromNY has some sort of rating system that people can refer to.

From: Bob H in NH
08-Dec-17
jrb, they do, but they are only effective on the second+ trips! One elk outfitter I used said he has turned returning hunters down. Some people just aren't worth the money to deal with!

From: PECO
08-Dec-17
What I find interesting is the negative reviews that say "outfitter sucked" and outfitter was not notified there was a problem. You have to give specifics, and you can't bash the outfitter on here if you don't first let him know there were problems. For outfitters rating hunters, a simple "I would" or "I would not" accept this client again would be sufficient. The problem with xblowfromnewyork's rating system is that it is too subjective.

From: PECO
08-Dec-17
As for Whitetail Heaven. Can someone explain why Peterson's Bowhunting did a great article a few years ago on such a bad outfitter?

From: greg simon
08-Dec-17
Peco, $

From: Trial153
08-Dec-17
Whitetail heaven at one time was a great u and coming Outfitter. As soon as they started bringing in TV hunters it all went down hill. They had a welcome Post one time on Facebook for the first time they were hosting Jackie Bushman or one of them clowns, I made the comment that it was the beginning of the end right there. Nasty grams ensued and was tossed from the page. Guess I was clairvoyant

From: JSW
08-Dec-17
Pat, Thanks for offering this service and thanks for reminding us that it's available. Jim

08-Dec-17

Tradman and Huntress's embedded Photo
Tradman and Huntress's embedded Photo
The Outfitter report has been a great resource for us to reference perspective clients to. We love It! Thanks Pat! Matt & Cheryl Shiloh Ranch Hunting Camp

From: ago0784
09-Dec-17
I have a friend who has hunted with whitetail heaven 7/8 times and killed one 120" buck my friend tries to get me to go along every time I wouldn't hunt with them if it was free

From: Quinn @work
14-Dec-17
Just took a look at the outfitter reports. It's painfully obvious that Whitetail Heaven has been monitoring this thread and they reached out to all of their successful hunters to write them a good review. Wonder how much of a discount on a return hunt they offered for doing a 5 star review? ALL of the most recent reports are for Whitetail Heaven and almost all are 5 star. LOL. Do your homework folks.

I would never hunt with them but then again I can hunt DIY in CO and KS for bigger WT deer.

From: bowbender77
14-Dec-17
Hey Quinn: I feel that your observation is valid. With that many reviews all at once it does seem to taint the process somewhat. Buyer beware !

14-Dec-17
Outfitter Lives Matter Too! :)

From: TD
14-Dec-17
Some folks have different ideas of what they want out of a "hunt". Many it seems are more into the social/party atmosphere. They are on vacation. They want lots of people, wined, dined, a "resort" vacation. Hunting is something that passes the day, not the main purpose. They would give five stars on just the accommodations and social aspect. (especially if they do so publicly for a discount on the next vacation....)

Others would sleep in a leaky tent just themselves and their guide, eat cold food, walk till their lungs and legs burned...... for a good HUNT, Good opportunities on good animals. An adventure, not a vacation..... and give em 5 stars all week long and twice on Sunday even if they came back dead tired, cold, hungry..... and memories of a rare experience that but a relative handful of people on earth will ever have.

14-Dec-17
TD, You are probably correct. But I also think most expect their experience to closely match what was marketed to them.

From: brettpsu
14-Dec-17
My next door neighbor just hunted with Whitetail Heaven. Three of them hunted the same 240 acre farm the entire hunt. One day the wind was to be blowing into the bedding area and the hunters told the guide/driver about the wrong wind direction for those stands. His reply was the wind swirls here and just hunt the stands. Needless to say the hunt was a disaster.

From: Quinn @work
14-Dec-17
brettpsu- have all 3 write a real review.

From: Rut Nut
14-Dec-17
LOL! The last 13 reviews are for Whitetail Heaven...........................................guess they forgot to tell the guys to stagger their reviews!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;-)

From: brettpsu
14-Dec-17
I told them to read the reviews on here and also leave a review.

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