I'm sorry, but this is laughable.
-----Original Message----- From: James Slinsky [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 12:38 PM To: James Jay Delaney; Dan Hill; Dan Hill II; David Schreffler; Gregory Isabella; Roxane Palone; Russ Schleiden; Tom Boop Cc: Sen Wayne Fontana; Sen Vincent Fumo; Sen Robert Wonderling; Sen Robert Robbins; Sen Robert Regola; Sen Lisa Boscola; Sen John Pippy; Sen John Eichelberger; Sen Charles McIlhinney; Sen Andrew Dinniman; Sen John Gordner; Sen Mike Folmer; Rep Scott Perry; Rep Anthony DeLuca; Rep Brad Roae; Rep Bryan Cutler; Rep Chris Sainato; Rep Dan Moul; Rep Dan Surra; Rep David Millard; Rep Ed Staback; Rep Edward Wojnaroski; Rep Garth Everett; Rep Gary Haluska; Rep Gordon Denlinger; Rep Harry Readshaw; Rep John Hornaman; Rep Keith Gillespie; Rep Keith McCall; Rep Mark Gergely; Rep Mark Keller; Rep Martin Causer; Rep Merle Phillips; Rep Michael McGeehan; Rep Michael Peifer; Rep Mike Hanna; Rep Neal Goodman; Rep Peter Daley; Rep Rob Kauffman; Rep Samuel Rohrer; Rep Tim Mahoney; Rep Tina Pickett; Rep Todd Rock; Carl Roe; Barry Warner; Bill Palmer; Bob Mitchell; Bret Wallingford; Cal DuBrock; Chris Rosenberry; Jerry Feaser; Joe Kosack; Joe Neville; Kevin Harbaugh; Mike Schmit; Mike Ternent; Rich Lupinsky; Robert Boyd; Scott Klinger; Tom Conway; William Pouss Subject: Email Addresses
Dear Commissioner Boop,
Roxane Palone has changed her email without notice and Jay Delaney has put me on his blocked senders list. Could you please explain to these individuals that they are public officials and as such must receive emails from the public. Obviously, no one can force them to read the emails, but they must allow the public to deliver the emails. If this is too burdensome for them, resignation might be the proper alternative.
I want two active email addresses for these people in a prompt fashion. I don't care who sends those addresses to me, but I want active email addresses for both of them. My alternative is to call them, which I guarantee will not be a pleasant experience.
This is Mickey Mouse childish crap. These people are supposed to be professionals and understand their responsibilities and duties as Commissioners.
I need two active email addresses, asap. I have important messages for them.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Jim Slinsky
Talk about childish Mickey Mouse crap. What a pompous, arrogant attitude - "I want two active email addresses for these people in a prompt fashion." I'd tell him to go pound sand.
Here's a valid email address - the same one that the public is given on the PGC website - [email protected]
Why does he think that he deserves more than the general public is given?
Phil Magistro's Link
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: July 12, 2007
GOVERNOR RENDELL NAMES MEMBERS OF OUTDOOR CONFERENCE TASK FORCE HARRISBURG – Governor Edward G. Rendell today named 17 members to the task force that will develop key recommendations to help keep people connected to nature. “Citizens on the task force represent the breadth organizations that have an interest in reversing trends that show our lifestyles are keeping us from spending time outdoors,” Governor Rendell said. “They will be responsible for presenting recommendations to me and the General Assembly by the end of this year on how we can strengthen the bond between our citizens and our tremendous natural resources.” The group will be led by co-chairs Doug Austen, executive director of the Pennsylvania Fish and Boat Commission, and Caren Glotfelty, director of environmental programs for the Heinz Endowments. Other members of the task force will be: Kathleen Paul, director, Pennsylvania Center for Environmental Education H. Eric Martin, owner, Wilderness Voyageurs Gary San Julien, professor of wildlife resources, Pennsylvania State University Bob Griffith, executive director, Pennsylvania Recreation and Park Society Richard Butler, executive director, Three Rivers Rowing Association Carl Roe, executive director, Pennsylvania Game Commission Mark McLaughlin, director, Shavers Creek Environmental Center Michael Shelton, camp director, Philadelphia Department of Recreation’s Camp William Penn Matt Ehrhart, Pennsylvania executive director, Chesapeake Bay Foundation Ben Moyer, journalist and author, Pennsylvania Outdoor Writers Association Jamie Olson-McKee, policy director, Pennsylvania Department of Education Allison Topper, executive director, Pennsylvania Advocates for Nutrition and Activity Lori McKean, assistant director for programs, U.S. Forest Service at Grey Towers National Historic Site Lee Steadman, director of arts and humanities, Stairways Behavioral Health Fran Rodriguez, chief of staff for Rep. P. Michael Sturla Task force members will review the data collected from more than 500 people, including the policy makers, business representatives, sportsmen’s groups, conservation organizations and representatives of the health and education sectors who, earlier this year, participated in the first-of-its-kind Governor’s Outdoor Conference and follow up regional meetings. “Our attention needs to be focused on these issues because they can affect so many things, including children’s health, the vitality of our rural areas, our quality of life and the future of the state’s billion-dollar hunting industry,” Governor Rendell said. For more information on the task force or an opportunity to engage in a meaningful discussion about improving connections between Pennsylvanians and the outdoors through an online forum, visit the conference Web site at www.connectoutdoors.state.pa.us.
WOW I like this guy already.
Blondies ISP went belly-up
See
http://www.greenepa.net/
Slinsky out does himself every chance he gets.
WV Gino
PS she did not send me here new address(assuming she has one yet) either.
Had Mr. Slinsky asked for Delaney's current email addy, before going on a rant, maybe it would have been provided.
Now, as Mr. Slinsky is very much "off" on his facts here, how much of the other BS he prints is he off on as well?
As for "Blondie's" addy, maybe he should ask nicely of the PGC and click his heels three times and he'll get his wish granted. LOL
Wait'll he sees that Heinz Foundation person on Eddie's list of advisors. Hoo Whee!
Thes guys call commishes pigheaded and refer to the female member as Blondie, and they wonder why they don't get any respect?
He is so full of himself it's a wonder he can fit his head thru the doorway.
And he wonders why people don;t want to communicate with him?!
Go figure! :)
I say we get ol' RC to armwrassle some sense into the joker. :^)
Can we invite him to the Campout?! :) That could be a great fundraiser! SLinsky vs RC...........mano-e-mano!
I'll tell you what Mickey Mouse childish crap is Jim; It's you not allowing your name or articles to be discussed on The Bowsite and HuntingPA.com because you threaten to sue those sites if they allow it.
You're nothing but a stooge for the animal rights movement and are too freaking stupid to know it.
Your outdoor writer "God", JS, is one of the worst anti-hunters in the state. I and lots more feel he does more harm to us than Heidi Prescott. Plus, Heidi has better legs. LOL
Keep believing what you do Boyers and watch things go down hill from here. You and your friends just may push the PGC into the arms of the DCNR......
I see no passion in his work!
I don't know what the governor believes but I'm very comfortable having the "enemy" sit at the table to kee a close eye on them.
Less than 1 in 10 of us who live here, hunt. Instead of grumblin' that the entire purpose of the initiative isn't to encourage more people to hunt, I'm glad it actually includes hunting as a promotable activity.
Ya know Denny, the one thing that bothers me about this outdoor conf. thing is that Louv's book is about youth. The conf. (I do believe) had its theme around youth and yet there are no youth that sit on that "council".
Jen does more for the bowhunters of this state than 99.9% of other bowhunters. She deserves more respect than being called "blondie". But then again as a supporter of JS I guess I should expect that type of response.
Since you seem to know so much about elk would you please provide me with the scientific names of the two species you are talking about?
Slinsky wrote that elk are not a native species to PA. That is a factual error. He does not understand the difference between species and sub-species. Neither do you it seems. This is taught in high school biology. Maybe even Jr high biology.
What is your eduational background along with your buddy Jim's?
I have heard Jim has a English degree. Can you confirm this?
Should people with out even a highschool level of biology education be steering wildlife resource management?
Would you go to a doctor without a back ground in biology even if the person claimed to know more than someone with extensive education and training?
Ringneck pheasants are not a native species. Boyer would you agree that the GC should not manage for this species?
Same goes for rainbow trout.
It's funny that 'ol High Fence Jim complains erroneously about elk being a non-native species in PA in one article and yet in another rails on "extremists" who complain about truly non-native species introduction and management of animals like rainbow trout.
Wv Gino
Gino, if Col. S has a degree in English, he sure didn't earn it, judging by his abuse of the English language. Then again, maybe it came from a third-rate institution of higher learnin' in the Garden State?
The dreaded pheasant stocking program. I have never hunted pheasants, but was in a SGL parking lot on the day of the youth hunt for ringnecks. I seen a bunch of smiles on those youngsters faces. Please tell me again how this program is a waste of money. I consider it an investment for the future of hunting. I would buy a pheasant stamp if the PGC had one just to try and keep this program alive and well.
My money still goes to that depressed area every hunting season, along with many others.
Please point me to some factual information on where the governor stands on hunting. Not somebody's opinion, but facts.
You should know better than anyone that the hunting industry is changing. That has only a little to do with how the deer hunting goes. Decreasing numbers of hunters due to aging (a trend that started long before Alt came aboard), increased competition from big sporting chains and the internet, along with decreased interest in hunting by youngsters is documentable proof that a lot of mom and pop businesses will drop by the wayside. I could list example after example but Hornick's is a prime one. Once a huge wholesaler and a thriving retail shop they are no longer in business.
Those that are successful will have to adapt to the new way of doing business and likely add products or services to remain competitive. It's not Rendell's fault, or Audobon's fault. It's just the way things are.
Denny, If I was thinking that I couldn't say it. But I can say that I wouldn't be as generous as you. :) Joe has turned this discussion into his views on the Governor's stance on hunting. Something that he can't even show factual information about and has nothing to do with the topic that was being discussed. But that's how people like Joe operate - blame, attack, fabricate....but never answer a question honestly.
"And when is defending yourself acting like a jerk?"
When you are one to start with, apparently? ;O)
On any site I have seen you post on, all you've ever done is criticize the Blame Commission and fuss about your perceptions of how things ought to be...namely demanding more deer, with little thought given to why we no longer have "more deer". You're entitled to your opinions...those are mine.
Believe it or not, I know quite a few good solid democrats that are staunch supporters of hunting. Please show me where Rendell has come out against hunting. Leave gun ownership out of it, that's a separate issue.
On second thought, never mind. That's not what this thread is about.
Still, you haven't answered my question. And I believe it's because you cannot. Yet you've formed an opinion, called people names and made things up all without a shred of eveidence to suppport your position. You seem to be one of those people that always look to blame someone else for their lot in life. You would have a lot more credibility and respect in my eyes if you could show some facts rather than deflect and blame.
Gun oenership and hunting go hand in hand. To deny that would be like denying that the majority of the states herd is shot by firearm hunters. In NJ, you cannot hunt ANYTHING with a .22 caliber rifle. Why not? It's also a handgun cartridge. Plain and simple. Growing up in rural PA....the .22 rifle is probably the single most important contributor to youth hunting. From range shooting, to groundhogs and squirrels. That is LOST in NJ. Even a BB gun is a firearm that cannot be owned by a youth.
Rendell is straight out of Philly. Same mindset. Same culture.
I am sincere in asking for some factual information on where Rendell stands on hunting. It appears that I can only get tangential relationships or hearsay.
Hey Ralph I grew up in rural PA also and IMO your above statement isn't true about my youth. I and all of my friends cut our teeth on small game hunting which was done with every gauge of shotgun from 410 to 12 gauge. We were always after doves, pheasants or rabbits with a few squirrels thrown in there but it was all done with a scattergun.
I grew up on a farm, with a .22, but Dad was hot on not shooting that thing in the air (trees after birds). I soon got a pellet gun which had less pop but a lot less range. I was the sparrow's, starling's and pigeon's worst nightmare until I got my driver's license.
Things change. Adapt.
But regardless...that's really off issue. There are valid uses for a .22 in the hunting community. And gun control efforts here in Joisey suffer for it. Granted many areas in the Philly Suburbs, or south of 80 farms with little tree or terrain are not the place for them for squirrels. We all adapt, just like rifles go away and shotguns replace them.
We need to be careful in how we view politics and gun control. Just because it doesn't afect us personally. In other regions it may be the choice of the day. All of PA isn't nor should it be dictated by Philly and Harrisburg. The lives of people north of 80 are vastly different. And after living down here for a few years now....mentallity is vastly different as well.:^)
However...in 2002 he was rated as the 2nd most anti-gun Governor in the country by the 2nd Amendment Project.
Here is the ONLY statement by Rendell that can be labelled as pro-hunting....."Investing in the quality of life in Pennsylvania's communities will help us with business attraction, but that is not the only reason to make these investments. We should recognize that we are sitting on a tourism gold mine. Pennsylvania has 3.8 million acres of park, forest and game land -- an area larger than the entire state of Connecticut. Our hunting and fishing resources generate $9.6 billion in economic activity every year. We must make these natural resources one of the engines of our economic growth."......
And only on an economic platform.
But his guncontrol platform is not a friend of hunters in any sense of the word friend. I for one don't divide how I'm going to vote based on him being no threat to bowhunters. If he is a threat to sportsmen, then he is a threat to bowhunters as well. If he had his way, we would have firearm purchase cards like NJ, and getting a carry permit would be nearly out of the question. He's on record for much more than that. He is against handgun hunting. That alone is a reason not to vote for him. You don't have to say "I'm against hunting with a handgun".....if you are against handgun ownership....you are against hunting with a handgun.
Or are we just looking at more division of the ranks here? We don't hunt with firearms...so who cares way of thinking.
"This is Mickey Mouse childish crap. "
I'll tell you what Mickey Mouse childish crap is Jim; It's you not allowing your name or articles to be discussed on The Bowsite and HuntingPA.com because you threaten to sue those sites if they allow it.
You're nothing but a stooge for the animal rights movement and are too freaking stupid to know it. Bob from MontCo........ ....... Date: 13-Jul-07
IMHO
Yep
Joe
So what is your master plan for that?
Joe, it's impossible to have a reasonable discussion with you because you continue to make things up to suit your personal agenda. Worse yet, you have absolutely no facts to support anything that you claim. Nobody's making Rendell seem like anything. I've repeatedly asked you a question that you obviously can't answer so you try every way possible to turn the discussion around. You have yet to show me one thing anywhere about Rendell's stand on hunting. Instead you show me partisan BS, fabricated statements and an obviously biased opinion. Cut the rhetoric and give me one fact about Rendell's stance on hunting. Then you can tell me how you plan to keep him under control. That's laughable. You have no ability to control him at all.
ROFLMAO
Gun issues are related but mostly separate. Your hatred over one issue has clouded your entire thought process.
I'm willing to agree with you if you show me one shred of proof about where Rendell stands on hunting.
Now do you want to try to spin this again or are you man enough to admit that you don't have a clue about what Rendell thinks about hunting?
So tell me. Gun issues are mostly seperate? How so? Or is it because you don't care about hunting with a gun that you would support somebody who is against it?
The man feels that all weapons that can be chambered for a NATO or former military round should be banned. Which includes the 12ga shotgun by the way. He is against handgun ownership outright. It's as linked as any two sporting issues could ever be.
As a bowhunter, my personal choice is first and foremost bowhunting interests. But gun ownership and the 2nd amendment supercedes all of that. By far.
IMHO you represent one of the worst parts of our society. A person that takes one issue and lets it dictate their thought on all other issues. To me you're no better than liberals that call President Bush stupid because of their hatred for the war in Iraq. You have no proof yet you spout off your opinion as fact.
You're so worried about looking weak....the fact that you cannot be honest in this discussion and admit that you have no facts to base your hatred for Rendell WHEN IT COMES TO HUNTING makes you look weaker than you can imagine. Be a man here and just tell us that you just hate the guy and that you don't know or care what his stance on hunting is.
That's not what my beef with Joe is about. My problem is that Joe has stated his opinions as fact, yet he cannot show me at all what Rendell's position on hunting is. That is revolting to me. That's what happens all to often today by members of both parties - they take things out of context and make blanket generalizations.
DOn't you mean BOOTIE-Man, Mark???!!!! :)
I admitted in my first post or so that I don't know what his stance on hunting is. I wasn't the one that said he was anti-hunting - you did. I was looking for information and thought that, since you were so sure in your beliefs, that you must have some facts to base your opinion on. But obviously you didn't. It was just another random opinion pulled from where the sun don't shine.
You asked what my beef is. I've explained it quite clearly but once again you either didn't take time to read it or couldn't comprehend it. Here's the quote from a previous post -
"That's not what my beef with Joe is about. My problem is that Joe has stated his opinions as fact, yet he cannot show me at all what Rendell's position on hunting is."
I can't make it any clearer than that.
You're too much.
Is that some kinda shot or sumpin???
~(8o)
Phil, you are nuthin' but a whiner and troublemaker. Go sit in the corner or I'm gonna pull one of yer stars!
I make a motion for Phil and Joe to lose a star. All in favor say I....
AYE!!!!!!!
