We are both in the 4th quarter of our hunting lives but still capable of getting it done in the steep and deep dark timber .
Any thoughts that will assist us in our decision will be greatly appreciated
Best of luck to everyone this fall !
I would be interested in any info you exchange as part of this thread. I have to apply by this weekend. Yikes!
Really appreciate it.
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I had applied for the type 9 unit 38 license before, but I saw that the type 1 odds were better so I figured I could still buy my archery permit and hunt the archery season too. I thought the type 9 license was an archery ONLY license to keep rifle hunting pressure down. So I blew it, due to poor info from the WDFG.
Anyhow, can a guy still bowhunt on a type 1 license in the rifle season? I figure there may still be some bulls ready to come in to some cow calling and I would rather archery hunt than rifle hunt. As I understand it, I would only have to wear one item of blaze orange.
I have also applied for elk in MT, UT, and CO....and maybe NM. If I don't draw MT, I will apply in NV too. ;-)
Yes you can still use archery equipment during the rifle season. There will be a LOT of guys wearing pumpkin suits though! My brother-in-law did the same thing one year and still was into bulls. You can make it happen.
You can hunt with archery equipment during rifle season (October 15 thru November 4), but you will need to wear orange. And if you can find a way to get an elk during rifle season with a bow in this area, you have to be one luck son of a gun, there are all kinds of hunters... both deer and elk hunters running around. If youdo use a bow during this season it will be a heck of a challenge for you, good luck to you.
You can not use a type 1 license during the type 9 season Sept. 1 thru Sept. 30. type 1 license is only valid during the rifle season and the type 9 license is only valid during the archery season.
If you would have looked in the special archery section of the regs you would have noticed that there was no special archery season for Unit 38. To me, that is not the fault of the G&F. I'll admit that the regs aren't always as user friendly as they could be, but to blame the G&F for your oversight doesn't seem right. Good luck hunting this season however you choose to hunt.
"c. Archery. Type 9 licenses refer to Archery Only licenses. Special Archery Seasons for Antelope normally open either August 15th or September 1st and close when the regular (rifle) season opens. Archers shall possess a Limited Quota Antelope license in addition to an Archery license in order to hunt Antelope during any Special Archery Season. Special Archery Seasons for Deer normally open September 1st or September 15th and close when regular (rifle) seasons open. Archers shall possess a General Deer license or a Limited Quota Deer license in addition to an Archery license in order to hunt Deer during any Special Archery Season. Special Archery Seasons for Elk normally open September 1st and close when regular (rifle) seasons open. Archers shall possess a General Elk license or a Limited Quota Elk license in addition to an Archery license in order to hunt Elk during any Special Archery Season. Archers with Limited Quota Type 9 Elk licenses are not required to obtain an Archery license in addition to the Type 9 license. Special Archery Seasons are established for nearly all Big Game hunt areas by the Commission. Season dates are not available at press time, but most open September 1. Some archery seasons for Antelope open on August 15. Information on these seasons will be available on or about May 5. Hunters holding General or Limited Quota hunting licenses may hunt with bow and arrow or crossbow during Special Archery Seasons if they first obtain an Archery license. Only one Archery license is required for a Big Game and Trophy Game species. This license qualifies the holder to hunt Big Game and Trophy Game during Special Archery Seasons in areas for which they also have a valid hunting license. Archery licenses are available at License Selling Agents statewide. Do not purchase an Archery license until you have received notification of drawing results. Some Big Game hunt areas offer hunting licenses for Archery Only. These licenses are designated as Type 9 licenses in the Hunting Season Tables. Type 9 Elk licenses are often available as Leftover icenses. Holders of Type 9 licenses are not required to obtain an Archery license in addition to the Limited Quota Archery Only license, but are restricted to hunting only in the area(s) and during the season specified for that license type. Persons hunting with archery equipment during regular firearms seasons need not obtain an Archery license. When hunting Deer, Antelope, Bighorn Sheep, Mountain Goat, Mountain Lion or Black Bear, the archer must be equipped with a bow of not less than 40 pounds of draw weight or possessing the ability to cast a hunting arrow of 400 grain weight at least 160 yards. When hunting Elk, Moose or Wild Bison the hunter must be equipped with a bow of not less than 50 pounds draw weight or possessing the ability to cast an arrow of 500 grain weight at least 160 yards. The crossbow hunter must be equipped with a crossbow of not less than 90 pounds draw weight which has a minimum draw length of 14 inches from front of bow to back of string in the cocked position and a positive safety mechanism. Crossbow bolts must be at least 16 inches long. The broadhead of arrows or bolts shall be of sharp steel with a minimum cutting width of one inch. Archery equipment may be used to take Wild Bison only on lands off the National Elk Refuge."
Note that it says "Special Archery Seasons are established for nearly all Big Game hunt areas by the Commission. Season dates are not available at press time, but most open September 1."
But NOWHERE can I find what "nearly all" means. When I asked the WDGF about this they told me I needed to look at LAST YEAR'S regulations to determine what units this applies in. WHY IN THE HECK would I think to look at 2009 regulations? WHY should I have to? If they want you to do that they should say it explicitly in the 2010 application book. imo.
I apply in 7 states for 27 different tags, and I have found Wyomings regs to be among the hardest to understand. I can't even figure out how you can hunt the deer rut with a bow.
Keep in mind that nonresidents have to apply by January 31st for some stupid reason. This is even BEFORE they have the regulations out. How can you ask people to apply before the regs are even out?
You're right the application booklet is very unclear. I was referring to the regulations which show the areas that can be hunted during the Special Archery Season, but as you noted come out after the application deadline. Therefore, you have to look at last year's regs and assume that they won't change this year. I agree they should state to check last year's regs for exceptions to the Special Archery Seasons.
My friend hunted that area 2 years ago during the archery season and chased a monster bull around for most of the season. As skinnyfrog mentioned, my friend lost a few days on the end of the season because weather closed roads to many of the best areas. But there are some good bulls in the area.
Ya you can say that again. Actually it's 22 min. ahead of you. I have 3 buddies + me with max points that have been waiting to apply for 38-t9. Been trying to convince them to leave behind one friend who missed one year. His odds are like 1% and he'd ruin our 25% chance. May be others like us just been applying for points. Anyway I produced enough statistical proof to spur them to apply in 2011, so we are. Finally. Why throw away $50 each year?