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yukon roz 10-Jan-13
Ace 10-Jan-13
Casador 10-Jan-13
Ace 10-Jan-13
bigbuckbob 10-Jan-13
grizzlyadam 10-Jan-13
BowtechAssassin 10-Jan-13
jigger 10-Jan-13
Buckndoe 10-Jan-13
spikehorn 10-Jan-13
AntlerAngler 10-Jan-13
Bloodtrail 10-Jan-13
CTCrow 10-Jan-13
fingers 10-Jan-13
fingers 10-Jan-13
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Will 12-Jan-13
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Lonewolf 13-Jan-13
spike78 13-Jan-13
yukon roz 14-Jan-13
bigbuckbob 22-Jan-13
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bigbuckbob 23-Jan-13
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From: yukon roz ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 10-Jan-13


cHANNEL 3 has a story about a mountain lion seen in east haddam .Belive it or not they are here!!I believe I have heard one while coon hunting in saleam not far from the sighting.Please go to wfsb.com to see the story!!

From: Ace ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 10-Jan-13


Ace's Supporting Link

From: Casador ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 10-Jan-13


Ok, so a woman hit the "moutain lion" this morning. She hit it hard enough to think it was dead on the side of the road. She came back 15 minutes later, and it was gone. If she hit it hard enough to knock it out, there should be come hair on her vehicle or at the site of impact.

Collect hair, analyze it, and if it comes back positive, then it's credible proof-case closed. I don't buy it

From: Ace ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 10-Jan-13


Casador, what is that Car Strike story from?

The story that Yukon referred to, (and that I linked to) is of an Animal Control Officer in East Haddam who says he saw a cat.

From: bigbuckbob ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 10-Jan-13


Casador - last year a mountain lion was killed in CT on the Merritt Pkwy, so it's quite possible there are more. Here's the story.

A Connecticut Department of Energy and Environmental Protection scientists examined a mountain lion killed June 11 after it was hit by a car in Milford. DNA tests determined that the big cat had come from South Dakota, a record distance for its species.CAPTIONBy Connecticut Department of Energy and Environmental Protection via APDNA tests show that a 140-pound mountain lion killed last month on a Connecticut highway had walked more than 1,500 miles east from the Black Hills of South Dakota., state officials said today

From: grizzlyadam ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 10-Jan-13


Here we go again!

From: BowtechAssassin ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 10-Jan-13


I'm sure it will get killed by a car

From: jigger ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 10-Jan-13


Ugh! This again?

From: Buckndoe ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 10-Jan-13


If a hunter did not see it and/ or there is no game camera picture of it then it must be a hoax. Lol

From: spikehorn ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 10-Jan-13


This one came from South Dakota too. It's the sibling of the cat killed in Milford wanting to have a family reunion!

From: AntlerAngler ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 10-Jan-13


lol spikehorn, lookin for milk prolly

From: Bloodtrail ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 10-Jan-13


How old is that story?? There are leaves on all the trees in the video link. All the hunters with cameras in the woods...and not one on film.

I'm getting my popcorn and putting my feet up for this.

From: CTCrow ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 10-Jan-13


Story is from April 27th 2012

From: fingers ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 10-Jan-13


Yea, Yea, Yea, This story is getting old.

From: fingers ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 10-Jan-13


Yea, Yea, Yea, This story is getting old.

From: Birdman ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 11-Jan-13


Chupacabra - always wanted to be the first to say it :)

From: Casador ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 11-Jan-13


The Milford cat was a complete anomaly. I don't believe that there is any breeding population(s) in Connecticut. Our landscape if far too fragmented to support these creatures. They need huge tracts of land and CT simply does not have it. In 1997, there was a confirmed scat sample collected near Quabbin Res in Massachusetts. This was probably another wandering male on a misguided quest for some kitty poon.

From: jigger ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 11-Jan-13


It was the Montauk Monster!!!

From: Will ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 12-Jan-13


Birdman you bugger... I wanted dib's on chupacabra!

From: Paul ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 12-Jan-13


I said it before I will say it again, they are in somers have been for a few years take it for what you will.

From: bb ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 12-Jan-13


Love to see the trail cam pictures.

From: Lonewolf ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 13-Jan-13


stories have been leaked that the state recieved Mt Lions from the dakotas back in the 90s and introduced them into the northwest corner of the state as part of a deer reduction study. MAy e why the genetics from last years cat was fro the dakotas. Most smart people know this cat didnt travel to ct on its own.

From: spike78 ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 13-Jan-13


I heard from a few people that sigted them in Mass, they are here. Not sure I want to be one of the lucky people to run into one out in the woods!

From: yukon roz ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 14-Jan-13


Sorry I read the article on the day I posted this I truly thought it was a new story not from april 2012 !

From: bigbuckbob ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 22-Jan-13


I guess there's a lot of members on this site that don't watch the evening news or read a newspaper. The kill in CT is not a urban legend but something that really happened. Does that mean the cats are here all the time? I don't think so, but not getting one on a trail cam doesn't mean they're not here either. Now, pass the popcorn.

From: steve ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 22-Jan-13


we never got bigfoot but there here look on tv .LOL

From: bb ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 22-Jan-13


"I don't think so, but not getting one on a trail cam doesn't mean they're not here either. Now, pass the popcorn."

Not getting one on trail cam is very telling. People are getting everything known to man on trail cams except lions. which have a big enough range They should be showing up regularly on trail cams if they were truly around.

From: bigbuckbob ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 23-Jan-13


bb - I didn't say there was a resident population here in CT, just that one was killed in CT.

I'd like to know how many members have a fischer cat, or moose, or blade eagle or snowy owl on their cam? Not getting it on the trail cam doesn't discount it as being in the state, and getting it on the cam doesn't mean there here all the time.

From: bb ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 23-Jan-13


bb's Supporting Link

In view of the fact that no one is getting pictures or any other definitive proof of mountain lions living here, I would say the lion that was killed on the highway was exactly what it was an anomaly, nothing more.

Check out the link, the photo shows a typical lion kill, they cover their prey, that's a bull elk covered up with pine needles. That's what they do when they make a kill, they don't drag them up into trees, they will kill cattle, sheep and horses, anyone hearing of or seeing anything like this?

From: jigger ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 23-Jan-13


I have a pic of a fisher and owl and ive seen pics of mooose that deep biologist put radio collars on.There are no mt lions here.

From: bigbuckbob ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 24-Jan-13


Wow, you guys are tough!! I agree, no resident population mountain lions. I was just trying to say that the road kill was real, not a story.

I should just stick to eating the popcorn.

By the way, I can remember when CT hunters were discussing whether or not there were bear in CT, and moose, and fischer cats :)

From: bb ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 24-Jan-13


I can remember discussing if Moose, Bears and Fishers were in CT, however all of the above are more plausible than Mountain Lions as their typical range is close by to begin with and their requirements are much different than a lions. Plus it is easy to prove they are here.

Heck I can remember discussing whether there were deer in CT. :)

I doubt though that Lions will ever be able to populate this area just for the lack of real habitat for them.

From: bigbuckbob ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 25-Jan-13


bb - I AGREE, I AGREE, I AGREE. However, I don't think we'll ever see a grey squirrel population in CT. I don't see them on my trail cam, so I don't think they exist. Maybe that's because I don't have a trail cam. I'll have to think that one through a bit more.

What else can we talk about?

From: buckiller ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 26-Jan-13


One thing is for sure:

Because they are protected by law, ONE day mountain lions will be in CT. They are probably already here, but in very limited numbers.

Since they are a protected species in the NEw England, little by little they will move east, one at a time, until population density becomes undeniable.

DEP will capture and tranquilize them and ship them back out west again. And they will keep coming and coming like liberal democrat zombies ( and endless supply).

But they will be here folks... You can count on it.

From: steve ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 26-Jan-13


I can remember seeing my first turkey then a couple of years later more and more till there was a hunting season .My friends father told me about seeing two years ago in Sharon I told him it must of been a bob cat he looked at me and said they had long tails this guy was the one who started me hunting 44 years ago ! I belive him maybe they were just passing thru but he seen them .

From: bb ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 26-Jan-13


Let me know when they arrive:)

From: grizzlyadam ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 26-Jan-13


I could be wrong but I never heard of any specific laws as far as protected species with cougars. Last time I checked they were on a list as a non-game species along with many others that could possibly escape from captivity. The penalty for shooting one was minimal.

From: Ace ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 26-Jan-13


Grizz: I found three separate mentions of Mountain Lions in the Regs:

(f) There shall be no open season on Hungarian partridge, northern and southern flying squirrel, mink, muskrat, beaver, otter, Canada lynx, harbor seal, pine marten, Indiana bat, black bear, bobcat and mountain lion (felis concolor).

(c) There shall be no open season for trapping snowshoe rabbit (varying hare), cottontail rabbit, gray squirrel, European hare porcupine, red squirrel, woodchuck, Canada lynx, pine marten, black bear, bobcat, mountain lion (felis concolor), Indiana bat and harbor seal.

POSSESSION AND SALE OF GAME AND FURBEARING ANIMALS

26-78-1. Possession and sale of game and furbearing animals No person shall purchase, sell, offer or expose for sale, or possess the raw skin, raw pelt, or carcass of any bobcat, black bear, pine marten, Canada lynx, or mountain lion (Felis concolor) unless such skin, pelt or carcass was legally acquired in this state or any other state or country. Any such skin, pelt or carcass legally acquired shall, in addition to any tag required by any other state or country, have a separate tag attached with the following information printed legibly thereon: the date on which the raw skin, raw pelt, or carcass was acquired; the name and address of the person from whom such skin, pelt, or carcass was acquired and, if applicable, the trapping, or hunting license number under which such skin, pelt, or carcass was harvested; the state and/or country (if other than the United States) from which the raw skin, raw pelt, or carcass was acquired.

Weird that they mention them so prominently and deny they are here. They don't tell us we can't shoot, trap or possess the skins of badgers, or wolves. I also have never heard of anyone seeing a Marten or Lynx in CT, but since they are in northern New England, I guess the DEEP figures they may make their way here. Could it be that they feel the same about cougars?

From: grizzlyadam ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 26-Jan-13


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