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Woods Walker 30-Mar-13
HeadHunter® 30-Mar-13
orionsbrother 30-Mar-13
Boone 01-Apr-13
DeerBanger 03-Apr-13
Lynn W 03-Apr-13
Lynn W 04-Apr-13
voodoochile 04-Apr-13
hoyt 04-Apr-13
Woods Walker 04-Apr-13
Hoyt 05-Apr-13
LBshooter 05-Apr-13
Boone 29-May-13
Lynn W 30-May-13










From: Woods Walker ........ One Violation Reported on this individual One Violation Reported on this individual ....... Date: 30-Mar-13
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Woods Walker's Supporting Link

Why should they stop at 2 months? Who says they can't make it 6? Or 12? Or whatever?

The LAW says that it's supposed to take no more than 30 days. But then again, it's their law so they can ignore it whenever they want I guess.

If you take this to the next step, they can also make the FOID card fee $1000 per year then too.

From: HeadHunter® ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 30-Mar-13


FOID Card is UN-Constitutional !!!!

But, on another note: I thought I heard awhile back that Illinois is doing away with the FOID Card by next January....???????

Every Law Abiding Legal Citizen has a RIGHT to own ARMS!!!!!! GUARANTEED by The U.S. Constitution and The Bill of Rights! (and GOD)!

So government should just figure "everyone" has a firearm.....or even multiple firearms.....It Is Our Right! Illinois is so SCREWED UP and our politicians are so corrupt! It's past time we Fire them All and Lock the Doors to our buildings and Our Money!

From: orionsbrother ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 30-Mar-13


Four years ago, when my FOID was up for renewal, I applied three months before the expiration. I knew that processing times had lengthened with Obama generated gun sales.

As the expiration date grew near with no new FOID card arriving, I started calling. I reminded them that by their own LAW they were supposed to turn around applications within 30 days and asked what I should do if my card hadn't arrived before the late gun season. They basically told me to pound sand and said that there was no way to legally hunt without the card and no way to obtain a refund on tags.

I received my new card a few days before the hunt, but the fact that laws are only applicable to taxpayers like me has left a bad taste in my mouth to this day.

I wish that there was a way to criminally charge or fine them for failure to abide by the law.

From: Boone ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 01-Apr-13


I sent mine in about a month ago but if i don't get mine back in time for my tags, too bad. I'm hunting anyway, screw this crooked government. I am sick of them ignoring laws that they don't feel fit their agenda so I will do the same!

From: DeerBanger ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 03-Apr-13


Boone - it took 96 days for me and my son's (mine was a renewal and his was a new app) FOID cards to come in. We jsut got them a few weeks ago. I agree with you, I planned to hunt with or without mine. Not my fault it took that long. Had i known that up-front, I would have sent it in sooner.

From: Lynn W ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 03-Apr-13


Lynn W's Supporting Link

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/reports/total-nics-background-checks-1998_2013_monthly_yearly_totals-033113.pdf

70,291,049 Background Checks for Gun Purchases Under Obama

From: Lynn W ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 04-Apr-13


Lynn W's Supporting Link

http://cnsnews.com/blog/gregory-gwyn-williams-jr/70291049-background-checks-gun-purchases-under-obama

There have been 70,291,049 background checks for gun purchases since President Obama took office, according to data released by the FBI.

In 2009, the FBI conducted 14,033,824 background checks. If we subtract the month of January (Obama did not assume office until the end of the month) we get 12,819,939.

The FBI conducted 14,409,616 background checks in 2010, 16,454,951 in 2011, and 19,592,303 in 2012.

Add to that the first three months of 2013 (2,495,440, 2,309,393 and 2,209,407, respectively) and the total number of background checks under President Obama comes to 70,291,049.

Over the same time period, the number of background checks completed under President George W. Bush was 36,090,415, or about half the number conducted under Obama.

From: voodoochile ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 04-Apr-13


Hmmmm ...... I'm a gun owner and a defender of of second amendment rights ...... but I do believe background checks are appropriate .

From: hoyt ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 04-Apr-13


It's not the background checks that are the problem. It's what some of the democrats..eg. Shumer..want to add to background checks. They want to make owning guns as big a pain in the ass as possible and as exspensive with fees, taxes, etc. as they can..and will in time if they get the type background checks they are pushing for.

From: Woods Walker ........ One Violation Reported on this individual One Violation Reported on this individual ....... Date: 04-Apr-13
THIS VISITOR IS CURRENTLY UNDER WATCH FOR DISRESPECTFUL BEHAVIOR


Make no mistake about it, the left wants us DISARMED, period. All the coffin dancing, "safety issue", "common sense", and "why do you need a ______ for?" rhetoric aside, the core issue has, and always will be the same....a disarmed public.

I've been involved in 2A issues for 45 years now...since I was 16...and NOTHING has changed. Same lies, same deceit. It was this issue that first made me become politically aware.

DO NOT EVER trust them. Not their words, or their stated motives. Just go by what they actually DO, and what the real end result of their actions are, which are more restrictions on honest people and more and more firearm killings amongst the people who could give a rat's patoot about any laws.

And don't EVER forget that the elected officials who seek to deny the average American their most basic GOD GIVEN right to self defense...both from criminals AND a tyrannical government...get 24/7/365 ARMED PROTECTION for themselves and their families at OUR expense.

How can any rational person believe ANYTHING they say, whether it be about guns or anything else???

From: Hoyt ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 05-Apr-13


Turning Gun Owners into Felons

A new bill would make it a crime to “transfer” your gun to a spouse for more than seven days.

By Dave Kopel

Public-opinion polls about “universal background checks” for gun sales show widespread support. While President Obama and Mayor Bloomberg talk about “gun sales,” the actual legislation moving through Congress aims to regulate far more than sales. It would turn almost every gun owner into a felon. The trick is that the language under consideration applies not only to sales but also to “transfers,” which are defined to include innocent activities such as letting your spouse borrow your gun for a few hours.

Consider, for example, Senate bill S.649, which the Senate will soon take up for debate. The background-check portion of the bill, Charles Schumer’s “Fix Gun Checks Act,” is based on model language that the Bloomberg gun-control lobby is pushing all over the country.

To see how the Bloomberg bill makes felons of people who do not sell guns, consider a woman who buys a rifle when she is 25 years old. She keeps the rifle her entire life. Yet over her lifetime, she — like most gun owners — engages in dozens of firearms “transfers.” She brings the unloaded rifle to a friend’s house, for instance, because the friend is thinking of buying a gun and wants to learn more about guns. The friend handles the rifle for a few minutes before handing it back. Another time, the woman lends the gun to her niece, who takes it on a camping trip for the weekend.

While the woman is out of town on a business trip for two weeks, she gives the gun to her husband or her sister. If the woman lives on a farm, she allows all her relatives to take the rifle into the fields for pest and predator control — and sometimes, when friends are visiting, she takes them to a safe place on the farm where they spend an hour or two target shooting, passing her gun back and forth. At other times, she and her friends go target shooting in open spaces of land owned by the National Forest Service or the Bureau of Land Management.

Or perhaps the woman is in a same-sex civil union, and she allows her partner to take her gun to a target range one afternoon. Another time, she allows her cousin to borrow the gun for an afternoon of target shooting. If the woman is in the Army Reserve and she is called up for an overseas deployment, she gives the gun to her sister for temporary safekeeping.

One time, she learns that her neighbor is being threatened by an abusive ex-boyfriend, and she lets this woman borrow a gun for several days until she can buy her own gun. And if the woman becomes a firearms-safety instructor, she regularly teaches classes at office parks, in school buildings at nights and on weekends, at gun stores, and so on. Following the standard curriculum of gun-safety classes (such as NRA safety courses), the woman will bring some unloaded guns to the classroom, and under her supervision, students will learn the first steps in how to handle the guns, including how to load and unload them (using dummy ammunition). During the class, the firearms will be “transferred” dozens of times, since students must practice how to hand a gun to someone else safely. As a Boy Scout den mother or 4-H leader, the woman may also transfer her gun to young people dozens of times while instructing them in gun safety.

Under S. 649, every one of the above activities would be a federal felony, subject to precisely the same punishment a person would receive if he had knowingly sold a firearm to a convicted violent felon. S. 649, like other Bloomberg-model bills, has a few exceptions to the ban on transfers, but none of them apply to the situations described above.

You can make a “bona fide gift” (but not a three-hour loan) to certain close family members, not including aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, in-laws, or civil-union partners.

You can let someone else borrow your gun for up to seven days, but only within your home or its curtilage (e.g., the porch or deck).

You cannot lend your gun to someone on any open space you own. And even your husband can’t borrow your gun for more than seven days.

You can share a gun at a shooting range, but only if the shooting range is owned by a corporation — not if it’s on public lands or on your own property.

You can share a gun while out hunting in the field. But back at the hunting camp, you can’t clean someone else’s gun.

This is not “gun control” in the constitutionally legitimate sense: reasonable laws that protect public safety without interfering with the responsible ownership and use of firearms.

— Dave Kopel is an adjunct professor of advanced constitutional law at Denver University, Sturm College of Law, and also research director at the Independence Institute, in Denver.

From: LBshooter ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 05-Apr-13


Sent my renewal in the first week of February and got it back the last week of march and it's good for 10 years. By then I won't be in Illinois.

From: Boone ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 29-May-13


Still waiting for my un-constitutional card to come in the mail. I called them two ago and the lady said they were going as fast as they could. I told her that it was not my problem that they are behind as ask how I was supposed to apply for my hunting tags without a current card and that there is a deadline to apply and she totally did not understand why I needed to apply for a hunting license. Clueless!

From: Lynn W ........ No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual No Violations Reported on this individual ....... Date: 30-May-13


Lynn W's Supporting Link

http://www.gunssavelife.com/?p=7580

State Police FIRES company processing FOIDs, hires new provider under emergency contract

May 16, 2013

Illinois FOID-card processing has been getting worse and worse since last November’s election season and today, waiting times are three to six months for processing renewals or new cards.

Well, relief may be on the way.

In recent days, Illinois has terminated the contract with the company providing the FOID card processing and hired a new company, Boland Enterprises, to handle the load.

The former company is crying the blues about losing the six-figure contract. They’ve laid off 20 employees at their downstate Illinois office which handled FOID card processing, but frankly, they weren’t doing the job and it wasn’t getting better.

Boland’s website suggests they have experience processing FOID cards for the time between 2005 and 2012. We’re not sure if this past experience is a good thing or not.




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