Day #1 of the WI Xbow season
Wisconsin
Well... it is here.. The beginning of the end of what was a WI Archery season.
It will mark the end to countless archery clubs throughout the state and has turned a primitive weapon season into a single shot shotgun season. Except the xbow is far more stealthy and easier to poach with and no bang.
We have a long list of Hunting orgs to thank for bringing this idiotic weapon to full inclusion. Be sure to thank them next time they ask for your money.
The demise of the NFL was also proclaimed when the forward pass was invented. Dude, take a happy pill and praise god You are vertical and can choose to hunt whenever, whereever. EEorye in the 100 acre wood was happier.
With the exception if a few members this whole WI. Page has become a joke.
Early registration reports coming in from around the state show that after only half a day of hunting crossbows have already nearly decimated the deer herd in many areas. Shawano county leads with over 93% of the deer in the county already having been killed by crossbow hunters!
AW, you're a moron! SOrry I try to stay cordial on this site but with all his whining and posting on every thread I had to.
I agree this site is a joke wonder why i even check in sometimes, sounds like a bunch of teenage girls bitching all the time..........im done good luck to everyone this season and be safe.
Every thread has become an anti-xbow thread and there are a couple of people everyone can thank for that. I like the reads on the Big Game Forum. Some bickering of course (hunters bicker more than any group of sportsmen), but lots of educational threads there.
People can hate on xbows but every thread doesn't have to become that. The trad guys don't rip the compound guys all the time.
While I agree that the site isn't what it used to be, it's still great. As far as the crossbows, people are free to be anti crossbow as well as others are free to support them. The last I checked, this is still a free country, no matter how hard the libs try to run it into the ground.
"Dude, take a happy pill"
+1
+1 to drop tine as well...
I was shocked to see that the sun actually rose today, and from the East no less.
Not as bright thou with cloudiness all around.
HR 146 . THE FULL INCLUSION OF Muzzle loading rifles to the new WI primitive weapon seasons. FORMERLY the WI archery season.
It will now be legal to use a shoulder fired rifle that loads thru the muzzle as WI archers have given up their season to share it with a shoulder fired xbow in 2014. Firearm owners and the National Muzzle Loaders Foundation have strengthened their base and lobby to fully include the Muzzle loader to the primitive weapons seasons in WI. They feel their rights as primitive weapon owners are being violated and discriminated against by the state of WI for allowing all other primitive weapons to be used . They site other states using Muzzle loaders during their archery seasons and lobby to pass HR 146 to get their rights exercised in WI.
Think about it Archers... We are not far from this.. And full inclusion of the xbow was the first step down that slippery slope.
First thing they will do is establish financial security through raising money thru memberships and fund raising muzzle loader supporters.
Next they find angles and divisive measures .
#1 they lobby for a handicapped and wounded veterans permit system allowing them to use Muzzle loaders during the WI Xbow season.
#2 when #1 becomes the status quo. Solicit big hunting orgs to gain their support. Like the NRA.. they surely would support their efforts to go to full inclusion as they did so with the XBOW .
#3 Find a Bill sponsor... One would not have to look far for a veteran in office that would sponsor something to help veterans and the handicaped and now anyone else who chooses to be a muzzle loader enthusiast.
#4 Once a bill like this is sponsored ..Like the xbow bill which BTW had zero votes against it and was signed immediately by the Gov. All that then needs to happen is gain media support .. like the xbow is wide spread sponsored on the horn porn networks.
#5 Now the stage is set.. massive political wide spread support for increasing hunting opportunity for WI and the boost I t would give tourism .. ya da yada.
#6 several hearings at the capital then take place . Where hunting groups send their mouth pieces to voice their support for this expansion of hunting opportunity. They testify that a Muzzle loader is no different then a Xbow other than it makes a bang. .they testify it is far safer to use.. they testify that by allowing the ML Wisconsin tourism will see a boom during the fall season.
#7 after years of debate and already implemented handicaped and wounded veterans permit in place. THE FULL INCLUSION AND TRANSFORMATION TO A PRIMITIVE WEAPON SEASON GOES TO THE FLOOR.. Though a 2/3s majority is only needed to pass it gets unanimous support as did the xbow in 2013. Gov. Signs it without question and waaaalllaaa... you now have Muzzle loaders allowed in the xbow season... you can still buy a weapon specific tag for your xbow and your recurve/compound so they can keep track of it separately and see how it goes...
LMAO... this is what aallowing a xbow has brought... tolerance..
I do not see tolerance for it as a archer.. apparently ... it's a deal that no one but me is against here..
And you wonder why this site is down the tubes?? It's a archery site and the members here are ok. With xbows??
Guess that says it all about this site.
Who will be the first to say it will never happen??
That was said 20 years ago about the xbow too
Obviously there is a lot of support for the end of archery season.
Pretty much agree with Antler.
I think antler whore might be the new crabtree or possibly even the old one? xbows are here just deal with it and no I don't own or use one. Our county was switched to rifle from strictly shotgun for the gun deer season and everybody was worried and we survived its kind of the same scenario.
Heard of some cross gunners doing drives on opening weekend. Supposedly they were gun hunters that wanted to try their hand with cross guns. They figured their tactics used during gun season would also work now. Messed up some bowhunters in the process. True story!
Talked last night to a buddy up north.. Langlade cty .. said he was filling up with gas and 2 trucks pulled in and registered 2 nice bucks... Both killed with xbows. He knew one of the guys and knew he has never drew a bow in his life..Both guys killed with xbows on the first weekend.. good for them... bad for the rest..
Just glad you so called WI archers here are ok With that..
I would guess that these Muzzle loader groups already have a plan .. it was so easy for the xbow and those tracks of support are easy to follow.
They will get the manufacturers on board and get the push rolling ..
Thanx to the hunting g orgs who pushed the xbow... Their path has been paved.
We use to make corn field drives all the time ...AKA.. Bowhunting October Whitetails with Gene Wensel..
Excellent way to have fun with a bow and arrow.. not sure I'd want to see guys carrying loaded xbows doing it.. but with real archery gear... nothing is loaded ... other then us after the hunt at the bar.
I know a few groups that do bow drives all the time. I never have but also have never heard it was illegal.
Group hunting has nothing to do with deer drives. Deer drives are legal for bowhunters and crossgunners. You just can't shoot a deer for another person. The person shooting the animal needs to tag the animal.
You're correct, Browning3.
That's the definition of group hunting? Simply stated, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard!
That's the definition of group hunting? Simply stated, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard!
Howatt ….. Duke and Browning3 are right. Just talked to a game warden.
Group hunting and deer drives are not even remotely close to the same thing. Deer drives are most certainly not illegal for archery. Of course, if you read it on the internet.... it must be true.
Well it's pretty cut and dried in the regulations if you ask me. It doesn't say anywhere that deer drives are illegal for bowhunters or crossgunners. I don't know how much better they could spell it out for ya. The person you talked to at the DNR obviously doesn't know what they are talking about or you misunderstood them.
Howatt i looked it up in the rules and it says group hunting is not legal for bows or crossbows. Page 22.
When you read that rule on page 22, I think it refers to group bagging.
I am pretty sure we all know who doesn't know what the he77 their talking about..
In fact... hunting deer in a corn field with a group of bow hunters would be a he77 of a lot more fun the staring at a feed pile every night if you ask me.
You just can't tag a deer someone else shot and when your tags are full .. your done. Or can't carry a weapon..
Pretty cut and dried in the regs for normal folks
Ron seems to have problems understanding hunting regulations.
Deer drives with any legal weapon during any open season are LEGAL!!! However the only time group bagging is legal is during gun and muzzleloader seasons. Maybe when the crossbow supporters were pushing so hard we should have pushed back with taking away group bagging. Perhaps then all the gun hunter support for crossbows would have backed off then.
Antler - no one asked you....
That's ok... it still is a more impressive hunt then drilling a pet on a feed pile.. I'd give a guy who kills on a corn field drive a lot more credit.
Didn't mean to blow a hole in your mighty pile..With a alternative method.... sorry..Lmao
Hey Ronny, for a guy hiding under a fake name from a fake location, you should learn how to spell your fake location. It is Crivitz, not Crivits ;). I hope you are seeing deer on your leases this season. Nice work on the barn.
These folks are service representatives, not wardens or field staff. I would guess that they have the same stuff available to them that is right in the hunting regulations with the exception of them having access to the WDNR licensing.
Additionally, the composition of the question presented was confusing at best. -Should read, "Are deer drives legal with a bow and crossbow?"
(Which they are.) Not a fan of them, but they are.
LMAO.. YET AGAIN Kent speal.. Kent reed....guess we know the WI school district we need to stay away from for basic education...still laughin.. this one is a real rib tickler
Ronny has never been good with any laws - or the truth for that matter. His obsession with you AW actually borders on him being a stalker. Crivits - yeah right...
"Heck your favorite writer Naz has written stories on it."
Speaking of Naz, he seemed to stop posting here about the time Ron stopped posting. Since Naz spent most of his time chasing Ron around on this forum picking at everything he posted it makes sense that without Ron here Naz had no reason to post anymore. I wonder, with Howatt now here (yes we all know Howatt is not Ron) will Naz show up to stalk Howatt like he stalked Ron? Oh the good old days!
IDK... I liked reading what Naz had to say.. he is a enjoyable member. I also like reading his publications. He is a good sports writer.
Naz always had some good points …… if you agreed with him or not .
We have bveen doing bow drivers for years in late season. Only shoot doe and many are seen but few stop for a shot. It is a blast. Local warden has talked to us while doing it. Never a word about it being illegal.
Jtek... that's because it's not illegal.
It is fun .. and right now I can't come up with a more fun method to use a bow and arrow for deer.
Well I think your full of baloney. I went to alot of deer drives, at Buckhorn State Park, in the late season, and the DNR was there, and even checked our deer, and was glad we were at it.......
All the guys I were with, were top notched, both compounds and recurves,,,,,,
I have not done it for awhile, but it was alot of fun.... You got to love the internet,,,,, what a bunch of you know what
Group hunting - legal..group bagging only applies to firearms.
Fueled up this evening and saw a nice 130 is 11 pt. On the back of a truck.. 2 guys... 2 xbow cases and a sack of corn and a bag of apples in the back of the truck.
Another pet bites the dust.
