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They are working on a vaccine for Ebola, but in the meantime they are not letting West Africans run all over the United States without making sure they don't have Ebola. At least there is a blood test for Ebola.
How are they going to know if a potential vaccine works if there is no way to test for it in a live animal ?
Are they going to vaccinate all the wild elk and deer and then kill them all to see if it worked?
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Some day we might develop a vaccine that prevents or cure all cancer.
The point is, when the vaccine is proven to be 100% effective in preventing and curing CWD(which it never will) then I might be interested.
However, this is just early release of information being leaked in order to have another talking point for the support of deer farms.
We don't want them. We don't want some experimental CWD vaccine in our wild deer meat , just so a handful of deer farmers can sell Trophy bucks to would be hunters that just want a trophy rack. As far as the smoke screen that it is about selling deer meat, is it going to be labeled that it is pumped full of an experimental CWD vaccine? I suspect that will go over well in the supermarket.
Continue a government or private test facility. If they could come up with a safe vaccine and a live test it would be great. Then all areas that wild animals have been affected from game farms could be treated . That would be great if it were possible.
But since the prions can survive for decades or longer in the soil, then incorporated into plants, how will the vaccine fix that problem?
I guess the vaccine could be distributed for decade upon decade but who is going to do that?, who is going to pay for it?, how will anybody know that 100% of the wild deer and elk get vaccinated? How is the vaccine going to be given to the wild population?
It would appear logical that any step to eradicate CWD would initially start by stopping the spread of it by not allowing any new deer farms. Otherwise, you would be chasing your tail and never catch up.
Like I said about Ebola, they tried to stop it from being spread into the USA. They didn't just let people come in and say go spread it, we're working on a vaccine and if and when we get one we'll give it to anyone that isn't dead yet.
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Call me a cynic but it looks like "some" deer farmers want to make a ton of money off of their deer and if that dosen't work then want money from taxpayers to make up for it.
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing wrong with someone trying to make money, but I do take offense when they do it by blackmailing the taxpayers and putting the entire wild population of deer at risk.
Whether the Indy Star is a liberal or conservative paper is of no importance, what matters are the facts. And the fact is that deer farms have been at the forefront of the spread of CWD throughout the United States.
No disrespect Whitetailman, but this is going to be my last post on this subject. The facts are the facts, and I think that everyone on here knows that a couple of you guys that promote deer farms show up on here right before and during the legislative session and spew propaganda and talking points in favor of deer farms them disappear for the rest of the year. We're too smart to fall for it, and no matter how much lipstick you put on a pig it is still a pig at the end of the day.
From 2002-2011, APHIS supported surveillance in wild, free-ranging deer and elk providing CWD testing for an average of 90,000 samples collected yearly on a nationwide basis. By January 2012, CWD had been identified in free-ranging, wild deer, elk, and moose in multiple states to include: Colorado, Illinois, Kansas, Maryland, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, New Mexico, New York, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Wyoming. View a map depicting states with CWD in the free-ranging cervid populations.
CWD was detected in a farmed elk herd in South Dakota in 1997. Since then, additional positive farmed elk and deer herds have been identified in other states to include: Colorado, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New York, Oklahoma, and Wisconsin. View a map depicting states with CWD in farmed/captive cervid herds
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For example this years flu shot is not helping with this years flu epidemic as well as they had hoped. The reason is that the virus mutated. Even in years that it is a good match people can still get the flu even if they have had the vaccine.
If or when they ever develop a vaccine for CWD it will never prevent CWD 100%. The downside is that the deer farmers will use it as a reason to try to expand deer farms and loosen the restrictions on them. But they can no more guarantee that CWD won't be transmitted to wild deer than a Doctor can guarantee that a flu shot can provide 100% protection from the flu.