That said, the Koch brothers plan to spend $889 million — no joke — ahead of the 2016 presidential contest. That's more than double what the Republican National Committee spent during the last presidential election cycle. Considering Hilary is all you have to beat, it's like throwing away money. Must need a tax write-off!
Regardless of one's political vent, it's a disservice to bring up the Koch brothers without mentioning Soros. The Koch brothers and Soros both spend absolutely obscene amounts of coin to advance their political causes.
The best thing for the state of WI is that Walker stays right here. Let somebody else run the $#!*-show in D.C.
There's not a man or woman on the planet capable of turning around the Divided States of America.
That's not the tune the current POTUS was singing last election, but how quickly some forget..
Ironically, the keyboard cowboy who posted this has stated here for years that some hunters who have arrowed dozens of whitetails are not "real bow hunters" because they have a different opinion on some issues. "How dumb is that" is right.
It's good to have a governor who pays more than just lip service to hunters, and is pro-gun. But much more could be done for a critical hunting and fishing issue: habitat and environment, including our water resources.
Pheasant shoots are fun (on a preserve where they "rock 'em" and place 'em minutes before you "hunt"), but all for show and typically held as a fundraiser — often at $500-$1,000 a head.
Feb. 15, 2006
"Despite last weekend's hunting accident involving Vice President Dick Cheney, Republican gubernatorial candidate Scott Walker will go ahead with a $500-per-person pheasant hunt fundraiser on Saturday ( at a Waukesha County shooting preserve)."
Oct. 2014
Gov. Walker was part of a fall fundraising shoot at an Oconto Falls Game Farm —$1,000 a head to shoot and $250 for the reception. The next week he had a bandage on his right thumb, which he said he injured in a hunting accident. "The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports that Walker said that he pulled the trigger at the same time he unlocked the safety." (?)
I don't have a problem with politicians doing canned hunt fundraisers, but if Gov. Walker truly cares about Wisconsin hunting and clean water he should follow Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton's lead to offer legislation requiring a 50-foot buffer along rivers, streams and other waterways across the ag belt. That would be great for pheasants (and other wildlife), the fish and the waters themselves. Same with the young forest initiative. As the old Nike ad said, "Just Do It!"
Investing efforts into creating more natural habitat vs. allowing its destruction would be something a true hunter would eagerly go to bat for, and something voting sportsmen could really get excited about.
When he's not campaigning, we'll likely have Gov. Walker here for the full second term. That's a good thing, as there's a lot of work to do on the projected $800 million (from the nonpartisan Legislative Fiscal Bureau) to $2.2 billion (Walker’s own analysts) deficit for the two-year period starting in July, as well as a lot of worthy hunting and fishing legislation that could be great for long-term investment, management and improvements in our natural resources.
Traveling to SD to hunt wild birds with your girls in all kinds of weather while trudging thru cattails and sloughs is hunting.
My understanding is that per the DNR's ALIS Scott Walker didn't purchase a firearms deer license until 2007. Which would coincide with rolling-out his plans to run for governor. A little digging would probably reveal the same result for the materialization of a Harley (although I've never seen one in his driveway).
Not partisan. Statement of fact. He's a shrewd politician and could be governor for a good long time.
He will not win a general election for president as he has no broad appeal found in the gravitas of Romney or Bush or charisma of Christie.
Naz 's Link
Turkeyhunter sees my post as it is, calling a shoot a shoot. It's not a hunt. I've done it … it is fun, not too challenging, but good training for the dogs and good for some laughs when a shoot partner gets all flustered, rushes a shot and misses a gimme … then empties the gun as it's long tailing away out of range.
Gov. Walker can't post any photos of him with deer, because he has never shot one. Not that it really matters, because in the end he's pro-gun, pro-hunt, pro-fish — and that's a good thing. But it's ok to expect even more from someone who is a sportsman's friend, isn't it? Habitat is the key, and there are things on public and private land that could and should be done. Government "intrusion" isn't a bad thing when it impacts the water and air we all share.
The irony of the picture with the orange Photoshop face mask is that RC took it off a site that rips Gov. Walker on a wide variety of topics, including "deer mismanagement" (found with a simple image search on Google): http://democurmudgeon.blogspot.com/2014_02_01_archive.html
It's not about Gov. Walker. I don't care if RC was brown-nosing a man, woman, R, D or anything else ….it's not about the person. It's the b.s. meter that I'm responding too. Trying to paint something that isn't there. If the Koch Bros. (or any other millionaires/billionaires trying to buy elections, whether R or D) doesn't make a person wonder what's wrong with our political process, that person has a screw loose.
I'll say this about anti-gun, anti-hunting politicians: I don't care for them and I don't vote for them, but none of them has ever taken away a gun or a hunt here. In fact, Obama was the best medicine the ailing gun industry ever got …. a perceived threat of bans, and record-breaking gun and ammo sales — a boon to state fish and game agencies through record-breaking excise tax kickbacks during his tenure. Now that the Rs control both the House and Senate, sales have slowed. Coincidence? Not sure. And I don't care, one way or another. It's just another fact among the storm of b.s. spewed by those opposed to compromise for the greater good — unless it's proposed by "their" party.
A really bad, no laughable Photoshop attempt. RC don't quit your day job buddy. The empty board nailed to the tree behind his head, he didn't happen to rip down a no trespassing, game farm, or refuge sign when decided to sit there, did he? LOL
I would really like to see his success pictures from hunting.
Walker's committee will have to disclose its donors in July.
If I go out and rent golf clubs and play a round of golf, am I a golfer? If I take a charter trip once a year with Capt Mike on his beautiful boat Pegasus and use his gear, am I a fisherman?
It is not exclusive to Republican Fans (as in Mindless Fanatics).
RC, the only one that has completely flipped is, well who has so much time and boredom on their hands to create a cheesy Photoshop image of the Governor? Yikes! You know, I bet you are a prettily likable guy in person, with a lot of really good knowledge to share with other hunters.
Danbark, he never said you were not a real hunter. He just called that form of shooting exactly what it is, a shoot. I go to Hawe every year for a holiday shoot with family. I never once felt like I was actually hunting. Hell, we get the same one-eyed dog each time. It's hysterical, the guy takes the birds out with his ATV and places them. Turns the one-eyed dog loose. That is not hunting. That is why I gave up public hunting ground pheasant shooting a long time ago. It's not a hunt! Not knocking anyone for doing it, it's not a hunt period. It is a shoot. As far as the dog, I would tell it to your dog but, he wouldn't understand, he has the brain the size of a bean. He is instinctive, he responds to sounds and stimulation. Again, not knocking your dog, he is just a dog, not a human.
Still waiting to see any pictures of Walker's hunting success. Not knocking him, just interested to see what a sitting Governor/True Sportsman likes to harvest. Is he the next Teddy Roosevelt?
I have never wolf hunted yet but I will in the next week. Sure hope I earn my yellow belt!
As for prolific posters, this is my 7th post in this thread. RC (8) and Howatt (6) have combined for 14 posts from the same person. Howatt, of course you "saw the same picture online," you're the one who pulled it off http://democurmudgeon.blogspot.com/2014_02_01_archive.html. Keep calling me a liberal Dem all you want but the fact is I'm an independent conservative who votes R in almost all but local races where political affiliation is not tainted by $. You know that, but posting red herrings and other b.s. is what you love to do because as you've stated many times, it's all in fun, and we're easy targets. Time for you to grow up. Maybe a real mea culpa this time since that last one was obviously just for show. And now, for the 15th time his thread ...
Good try on the fits of rage! LOL ..... you are easily baited into exposing yourself as a complete fraud.
The "liberal or not" line is such an easy giveaway that you wrote it.
You are a pathological liar and this is simply the icing on the cake.
When are you claiming that PM arrived? I will gladly contact the Bowsite administrator and request a copy of it. You know it doesn't exist unless YOU wrote it. A new low for even a fraud like you.
Not sure how you faked the first one, but you can even see the type font is different.
You are the one who desperately needs help, and your quest to get me booted continues. I promised to not stoop to your level, but you crossed the line with that fake PM.
"10, apparently you have no interest in compiling a list of anti gun conservatives as compared to a list of anti gun liberals. Once again, you let your agenda and bias slip out."
Howatt, RC, please excuse my confusion with your identity-Naz's phantom PM'S, what is your point?
As long as we are at it, I find it hypocritical that you demean those who hunt game farms yet you have no problem hunting deer in an area long after the majority of the states season is closed. Personally I have no issue with either but coming from you there is a bit of hypocrisy involved. Or, maybe it just means you are not the next Teddy Roosevelt.
2. Whom did I demean. If you actually read carefully, I said that each year I go on a holiday SHOOT at Hawe Hunt Club. It is a shoot, plain and simple. The guy puts out pen raised birds and I go shoot them. That is a fact! If that makes you feel slighted, that is your problem.
Someone says to me did you get those birds at a game farm? I say yes and he says you didn't actually hunt to get them, I have to agree. I'm not going waste the time and energy to argue and say I most certainly did hunt them! I followed that one-eyed dog for at least 50 yards, kicked that rooster in the ass and shot him when he took flight. There is no argument, it is a SHOOT.
As far as hunting 77M in January, you are not really comparing pursuing a free roaming whitetail to a pen raised pheasant, are you? I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, you are smarter than that.
FYI, yes the 77 M opportunity is available however, I have not been on stand since the end of December/early January. Too risky is the chance of harvesting a buck that may have dropped his head gear. My time has been spent coaching, Ice fishing, and too much work. Had the opportunity to get out and opted not to. Bow has been parked for a good month.
No, I am not the next Teddy Roosevelt. Maybe Walker is though. If he manages to reach the White House, I look forward to his Rough Rider Revival! That means more land preserved for future generations, better water quality, better big game management, more land opened up to hunting. If that happens, it will be great for the country to have a Progressive Republican back in office.
I don't think 10orbetter was demeaning at all. He was calling a spade a spade.
Pen raised birds released for shooting are a great way to train a young gun dog. It isn't hunting. It is shooting. Got no problem with training a dog that way. Even a pup needs to start somewhere.
Hunting is a day long slog working hard to kill your limit. My wife would tell anybody that if it was easy it would be called shopping.
Same for big game behind high fences. It's not hunting. I've shot hogs practically for free on a Texas high fence deer operation because they were a nuisance.
Shooting one of the midget Texas deer with a big rack off of a solar powered feeder from a carpeted shooting house at 50 yards isn't hunting. It's shooting.
Turkey, if a pair of wild birds flush at the back of the truck and you kill them does that mean you were not hunting that day? Is it a shoot if the buck of a lifetime wanders past your stand in the first ten minutes of the first day you are on stand and you kill it?
My point is that a person who kills paper or clay targets is a shooter, the one who harvests animals is a hunter. Trying to differentiate the amount of time and energy spent in harvesting an animal between hunting and shooting can only serve to create a split among hunters, who are too small a group to start with.
Zinger adds nothing so he warrants nothing more than that notation.
Really poor analogy. If I slam the door of my Silverado or Acadia wild birds will vamoose at a quarter mile before the dogs are even out of their crates. Pen-raised birds are clueless.
'Is it a shoot if the buck of a lifetime wanders past your stand in the first ten minutes of the first day you are on stand and you kill it?'
Of course I would kill it. In a heart beat. I don't bait and I have no fences. I don't 'hunt' from a carpeted shooting house. Call me old-school and anti-instant gratification liberal-leaning but I would relish the adrenaline rush. I believe in free chase hunting - not an entitlement mentality. After a brief moment of reflection I would embrace the kill if my neighbor killed that same deer on the same terms.
Otherwise it would be shopping.
I know better to argue this with my Frau. It's all about maintaining the domestic tranquility you know...
"If I go to the high fence near my house and give the owner the $650 he wants for the buck that I have come over and fed for him occasionally this last summer, am I hunting?"
Calumet, according to many that is hunter. IMHO, and it is just my opinion, killing something in a high fence operation is shooting and not hunting.
Those of you who want to define what a hunter is based on the number of years they have hunted, how many scratches, cuts and bruises they had to endure in order to get their animal do no service to the efforts of protecting hunting.
Dick measuring is fine for Internet chats but I hope you put a more unified front out to the public.
Now, if you can gut a deer really fast then you know you have made the big time.
I do not care at all if the governor hunts or not, as long as he or she supports the hunt, and believes in quality habitat and management
going out hunting right now
"Those of you who want to define what a hunter is based on the number of years they have hunted, how many scratches, cuts and bruises they had to endure in order to get their animal do no service to the efforts of protecting hunting. "
Seriously Mike, how does one making an opinion on an internet blog do an injustice to protecting hunting? Please provide a concrete example and not just your rhetoric. Many people think that shooting a deer in a fence is not hunting. Again, how has that opinion many share hurt hunting? A real life example of this would be appreciated otherwise you are just spewing rhetoric.
You bash xbow hunters but they are hunters aren't they? Aren't you doing a disservice of protecting hunting? Please don't be as hypocritical as the local hypocrite.
Yep and the current POTUS has a Harvard degree... done him wonders
As another example of your inability to comprehend, whatever is said on this blog really does not mean anything. However, providing a unified front to the public, ie; to legislators and non-hunters is what is important and matters.
If it still does not register, provide an address and I'll try and get a coloring book off to you.
Politics are unpredictible . About 9 years ago I was fighting the crossbow factories and their attack on our archery season . I was getting no help from the local politicians . I was desperate for help and Called Sen Feingolds office .
Even through the problem was not his and he was not a hunter , his office spent hours with me and fired letters off all over the state and in the DNR we stopped them . That time .
Yea just don't know . things can change .
Spot on there. A piece of paper is meaningless when you have no business or common sense and lack a brain. This POTUS is by far the worst in American history. I'd take Walker any day of the week. He is not afraid to make the tough decisions and has proven that many times. His recent one with the UW system is another example.
The only spewing is being done by you but most readers of these pages are already aware of that.
Pat, pat!
Remember, you wanted xbows left out of archery season, even for those 55 and older. You SETTLED for what we have now and when you say "acceptable to all" you are spewing nonsense. Take a poll here and see what the vertical bow people feel about xbows being all inclusive. You don't need a poll though as you know the answer. Please don't be hypocritical. Put some stairs on that pedestal so you don't fall if you ever choose to step off it.
Really Ronny. Are you the pot or kettle here? I disagreed with Capt Mike. That is it. Who else did I "yell" at - LOL. Capt Mike is entitled to disagree with others as he has vehemently done in this thread (as did you) and therefore so am I. Nothing serious by any means. Just chatting on the net - that's all. This is fun. You should know that ;).
I've asked a couple times already but I'll give it another try. What did you contribute to the issue? Perhaps if all those vertical bow guys you mention who are not happy with the current law had made an effort to do something about it, we might have a different law.
There is a stench in the room and it reeks of your hypocrisy.
Wrong Ron. A poorly researched (and plagiarized) rewrite of an email that went viral in fall, 2013. In addition to the errors, most of the tax rate increases only hit the wealthiest and won't affect most Bowsiters (and I wouldn't worry about that estate tax, either, unless your estate is worth more than $5 million, LOL).
From factcheck.org, a nonpartisan, nonprofit consumer advocate for voters that aims to reduce the level of deception and confusion in U.S. politics. Based in Philadelphia, Factcheck monitors the factual accuracy of what is said by major U.S. political players in the form of TV ads, debates, speeches, interviews and news releases. Its goal is to apply the best practices of both journalism and scholarship, and to increase public knowledge and understanding
Q: Did Democrats increase federal income tax rates in 2014 under Obamacare? A: No. Tax increases mentioned in a viral email went into effect a year earlier, as part of a budget deal supported by many Republicans as well as most Democrats.
FULL QUESTION
Is this information correct? I have tried to check it out but get terribly confused. It came as an email from a friend in Colorado.
Viral email: THE FIRST THREE MONTHS! Happy New Year America Here is what happened on January 1st 2014:
Top Income Tax bracket went from 35% to 39.6%
Top Income Payroll Tax went from 37.4% to 52.2%
Capital Gains Tax went from 15% to 28%
Dividend Tax went from 15% to 39.6%
Estate Tax went from 0% to 55%
Remember this ‘fact;’ if you have any money, the Democrats want it! All these taxes were passed with only Democrat votes. Not one Republican voted to do these taxes. Remember this come election time. And make sure your friends and neighbors know this info too!
These taxes were all passed under the affordable care act, otherwise known as Obama care.
FULL ANSWER
We started getting dozens of queries about this one about three weeks before tax filing day. It’s nonsense. Some of these figures aren’t accurate, and none of these increases took effect on Jan. 1, 2014, or had anything to do with the Affordable Care Act. And the claim that “not one Republican voted to do these” is false.
Here’s what really happened, and when:
The top income tax rate went back up to 39.6 percent over a year ago — for singles making more than $400,000 a year or couples making more than $450,000. The increase was part of the “fiscal cliff” package that Congress passed on New Year’s Day of 2013.
Capital gains rates also increased in 2013 under the same “fiscal cliff” deal — but not nearly as much as this email claims. For long-term gains (on assets held more than one year) the top rate went from 15 percent to 20 percent (not 28 percent), and also applied to individuals making more than $400,000 and couples earning more than $450,000.
The top rate for dividends also went up to 20 percent (not 39.6 percent) in 2013 as part of the same fiscal cliff package, and also only for those with more than $400,000 individual or $450,000 joint taxable income.
It’s true that the estate tax was once effectively zero percent — but only for people who died in 2010, not last year. The top rate went back up to 35 percent for those who died the following year, and (under the fiscal cliff deal) to 40 percent for those who died in 2012 and thereafter. Furthermore, the rate is still zero percent for any individual who dies this year and whose estate is valued at less than $5,340,000. The threshold for filing an estate-tax return was set at $5 million in 2011, and is indexed for inflation each year.
The claim that the fiscal-cliff tax increases were “passed with only Democratic votes” is false. The deal passed by a vote of 89-8 in the Senate (including 40 Republican votes in favor) and by a vote of 257-167 in the House (with 85 Republican votes in favor). The package made permanent the 2001 Bush tax cuts for all but very high-income earners, avoiding tax increases that otherwise would have taken effect Jan. 1, 2013, when the “temporary” Bush tax cuts were scheduled to expire.
The email’s claim about “income payroll tax” is a head-scratcher, since no tax expert we know of uses such a term. Our best guess is that the anonymous author meant to refer to the combined effect of the federal income tax and the Social Security and Medicare payroll taxes, and did not understand how these taxes work. No combination of payroll and federal income taxes would produce a top marginal rate of 52.2 percent, so far as we can figure.
Back in 2008, when Obama was first running for president, conservative commentator Larry Kudlow claimed that Obama’s tax proposals would amount to “a 52.2 percent combined income and payroll tax.” But even that claim was wrong, because of the simple fact that the top marginal income-tax rate applied at that time only to income above $349,701 and Social Security taxes applied only to wage or salary income below $97,500. Any income taxed at the top income-tax rate would incur zero Social Security tax.
And the same is true today: Taxable Social Security wages now stop at $117,000, and the top marginal income-tax bracket doesn’t kick in until $406,751 for singles and $457,601 for joint filers. All of these levels are adjusted for inflation each year.
Having said all that, we’ll note that taxes have gone up for some as a result of Obamacare. The law imposes a 3.8 percent tax on net investment income that applies to people who earn more than $200,000 a year for singles, or $250,000 for joint filers. It also levies an additional Medicare tax of 0.9 percent on wages, salaries and self-employment income for people in those income groups. However, these changes also took effect in 2013, not 2014.
– Brooks Jackson
Sources
Tax Foundation. “U.S. Federal Individual Income Tax Rates History, 1862-2013 (Nominal and Inflation-Adjusted Brackets).” 17 Oct 2013.
Hollander, Catherine. “Here’s What’s in the Fiscal-Cliff Deal.” National Journal. 1 Jan 2013.
Fidelity Brokerage Services. “A taxpayer’s guide to 2013.” 27 Feb 2013.
Ruffenach, Glenn. “Navigating the Dividend Storm; Tax rates on corporate payouts are heading higher for some. Don’t just sit there.” Wall Street Journal. 10 Jan 2013.
Cook, Douglas C. “Current & Historical Federal Estate Tax Structure, Exemptions & Rates.” Cook & Cook law firm website. 17 Dec 2012.
U.S. Internal Revenue Service. “Estate Tax” Web page. 9 Apr 2014.
U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 112th Congress – 2nd Session. “On Passage of the Bill (H.R. 8, As Amended ).” 1 Jan 2013.
U.S. House of Representatives. “Final Vote Results for Roll Call 659.” 1 Jan 2013.
Kudlow, Larry. “Obama’s Big-Government Vision.” National Review Online. 14 Feb 2008.
Social Security Administration. “Contribution and benefit bases, 1937-2014.” Undated Web page accessed 15 Apr 2014.
Internal Revenue Service. “Questions and Answers on the Net Investment Income Tax.” 5 Mar 2014.
Internal Revenue Service. “Affordable Care Act Tax Provisions.”
Internal Revenue Service. “Questions and Answers for the Additional Medicare Tax.”
Nevertheless, what Howatt posted was nothing more than an internet hoax. An anonymous fabrication.
If I had to guess Howatt is a fool to believe it or he has convinced at least one of his personalities of everyone at Bowsite being a fool. Maybe both.
Even a run-of-the-mill idiot knows that all tax legislation goes through House Ways and Means. Which would imply that Howatt also believes the Republican Congress to be fools too.
Foolish is as foolish does. There's nothing like a fool making a fool of himself to brighten my day. Too funny.
His very thought when He signed the xbow bill no doubt. As relevant as:Chopper hunting,Lambeau venison supplier,DIY _____________(fill in the blank)
Romney, with more than 11 million Facebook likes, bowing out of a race many believe will end with a Republican POTUS win no matter who the nominee is? Strikes me as odd that someone with the highest approval ratings in the Republican field would quit his decade-plus quest now. Makes one wonder who really call$ the $hot$ in politic$.
As for Pat not objecting to shooting deer over bait you're right as I believe he pretty much is in favor of any LEGAL hunting. Hunting over bait where it's not legal I'm pretty sure he would frown upon.
Romney is a very successful business man and lost his nomination because of it. Why would we want a business man to run the country??? LOL! Can you imagine the humiliation if he lost for the third time. That's why he isn't running. People will vote against him for that very reason.The free hand out people are soon to outnumber workers by a wide margin. Naz I don't have fEcebook and very surprised you follow candidates that closely on Republican side. You seem sorta nervous. Relax... all the what's free for me citizens will be the majority. GOD help us if a person takes office and starts cutting the free ride provided by our current POTUS. It will be Anarchy.
As for "free handout people," I assume you're talking about the one in three on welfare? That leaves a two-thirds majority not, so let's not pretend that the welfare vote is what puts a president into office. About one in six folks live in poverty, with about 47 million receiving food stamps. Are there abuses? You bet. But there are a whole lot more folks who work hard and still can't make a go of it.
I agree that I'd rather see dollars spent within our country instead of sending billions to those who would like to kill us but those funds need to be disbursed in a far more stringent and careful manner. Gov Walkers proposal to drug test recipients is one thing I support.
If you need to give money to people to allow you to sleep at night I'd prefer you use your money and not mine.
Don't kid yourself, stereotypes happen as a result of what is, they do not materialize from thin air.
It appears about 80% of the so called God fearing Christians really don't have a clue when they walk into church on Sunday. My dollar says 100% of the Pastors, Priests and Ministers would read the righteous Christian comments on here and be outraged.
Nov,
Read the story below off of CNN Money. I don't like it either but, just keep it real instead of puking out, the sky is falling, paranoid, garbage. Food stamps are up 33% under Obama, not doubled as you stated. The dollar amount is doubled, in part, a product of the DEPRESSION this country suffered through in the building industry. Many hard working, WHITE carpenters, masons, electricians, plumbers, had to collect food stamps just to feed their families. All the WHITE, bow hunting guys, I know in the building industry called the middle of 2006 to 2013 a DEPRESSION, not a recession. However, that is nothing compared to the 63% increase under Bush.
I care less who is president, everyone needs a helping hand at some point their lives. Hell, I needed the help of family and friends to get through the recession. Was lucky enough to not have to rely on government assistance but, lived for 8 years not knowing where my next check would come from. For the first time in my life I had to hunt to put meat on the table. I fought my way through and have come out the other side of hell. Not everyone is capable of doing that but, that is ok. The hysteria doled out by the extreme people on both ends of the political spectrum borders on mental illness. Like I said, everyone needs a little help in life.
DON'T FORGET, THERE ARE MANY WOUNDED VETERANS THAT CAME BACK FROM WAR, NEVER TO BE THE SAME, STRUGGLING TO FIND WORK, ASSIMILATE BACK INTO SOCIETY, NEEDING ASSISTANCE, AND TRYING TO FIND SOME NORMALCY IN THEIR LIVES. AND YES, SOME NEED FOOD STAMPS! GUYS THAT SACRIFICED EVERYTHING, JUST SO A BUNCH OF LOUD MOUTH, FAT ASS, A-HOLES CAN SIT BACK ON THEIR HAUNCHES AND SPEW THE GARBAGE THAT IS WRITTEN HERE.
CNN Money
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- A record 44.7 million people -- or 1 in 7 Americans -- were on food stamps last year. But does that make Barack Obama the "food stamp president?" Newt Gingrich once again slapped that label on Obama during a South Carolina debate Monday night, saying: "The fact is that more people have been put on food stamps by Barack Obama than any president in American history." It's true that the food stamp rolls have swelled more under Obama's tenure than under his recent predecessors. Also, his 2009 Recovery Act allowed even more people to sign up. The number of people in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program has soared to an average 44.7 million in fiscal 2011, up 33% from fiscal 2009. Obama's stimulus act made it easier for childless, jobless adults to qualify for the program and increased the monthly benefit by about 15% through 2013. In fiscal 2011, the federal government spent more than $75 billion on food stamps, which provided an average monthly benefit of $133.85 a month, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture. That's up from $34.6 billion at the end of fiscal 2008, when recipients collected an average benefit of $102.19. Faces of poverty But these numbers alone do not tell the whole story. Food stamp enrollment has been rising for more than a decade. President Bush launched a recruitment campaign, which pushed average participation up by 63% during his eight years in office.
That being said... it is amazing Walker has beat those odds 3 times ...and i would venture to say he would also beat those odds on the national scene... WI is a blue state... but only 22% of tax payers cast ballots... 80+% of the takers cast ballots... so unless the silent majority of work tax payers continue to step in the ballot booth.... you will continue to see the country slide into the liberal handout pit... you will again see a migration of domestic investment go over seas..
Take a look at the recent up turns.Investors are returning some funds stateside in anticipation of a Conservative Rep. Leading our country .. if another liberal ...Billary say type is elected... those investment funds will be pulled again and go back over seas...so.. silent majority folks.. keep the pressure on the liberals.. it's your lively hood they are after.
Free market sent us into Iraq! Keep telling yourself that. Trickle-down gave us a near depression! Why, because it is human nature to gravitate toward greed. Further, we go into Afghanistan to fight a ground war when the time was right to send a message to the world, you kill one American, we will kill one thousand of your people.
Bush crapped the bed when the world fully expected us to respond with a nuke message and would not have blamed us one bit for doing so. hey but, don't mess with Texas. Instead we get a 14 billion dollar war on two fronts and walk away with absolutely nothing. You think all of the resources and money spent grew on trees? According to your math that had nothing to do with the economic down-turn.
I agree, Carter is one of the worst presidents in modern history. One thing he was, a great humanitarian. Ask any clergyman in this country if that is a false statement. After all, the Republicans answer to a higher order and should embrace humanitarian efforts. That is, unless it is all lip service and the only thing they really worship is $$$$ and the party?
Bush was like a cat pissing in the corner of a room. You can clean up the mess but, you never can get rid of the stench. It will forever smell like cat piss.
Nov, you could invade the Ukraine but, I don't think any president, ever would do that. We need to take care of our own people first. I would nuke the middle east or stay out of their affairs completely. They don't want our help and never did, nothing more than savages. I guess though, that is not what it really is all about, now is it? OIl,oil,oil! Nothing good will ever come out of dealing with those people.
Israel, our International Welfare State. Tell me what is their greatest export? They don't have any, I didn't think so. You people bitch about supporting American citizens on welfare but, are willing to support a group that has been kicked out of every civilized nation in the world, except the US. Whatever!
No, I bitch about supporting LAZY Americans citizens on welfare.
What was interesting in Walker's recall election is that the vote was not really a party vote. It came more down to the public sector versus the private sector. This meant people really voted based on their beliefs in how the Governor was carrying out business and in his beliefs. That is far better than what happened with Obama where people simply voted on race with the majority not knowing a thing about either candidate.
Actually Capt. Mike, we agree on most things but don't always recognize that on the board. There will always be things we all disagree on and that's what keeps these boards interesting to read. You are one of the people here whose opinion I value.
next issue please??
There .. that wasn't so friggin tough
Right now I'm spending a slow morning at an African hunting show in Calgary so this gives me something to do.
One question I have is how does Ronnie decide which one of his personalities he signs in under each day?
10-"Nov, you could invade the Ukraine but, I don't think any president, ever would do that."
So in the same post you bash bush for not using a nuke and massage Obamas butt for not invading the Ukraine? That makes Zero sense. Clinton handled Bosnia just fine.
10-"Bush Jr legacy a 14 trillion dollar war that netted no tangible benefit and the Great Recession of 2006 to 2013." 14 trillion? Baseless false numbers. Bush left office at 9 trill debt, Obummer will surpass all prior presidents adding 12 trillion before he becomes the "climate change" limuosine liberal.
LET ME REWRITE THE NAZ THREAD
10 comes closest to actually understanding HOW A LIBERAL FEELS. If the U.S. GOVERNMENT AND TAX PAYERS WITH JOBS doesn't help its own, we'll end up like the city OF CHICAGO you see on TV or read about in the paper every day — rioting, looting, killing day after day after day in cities across the country. Yes, go after the frauds BUT REMEMBER THEY HAVE LAWYERS THAT WILL SUE YOU, but Mike, if only it were as easy as saying "go better yourself" or "cross your legs." WHY WOULD YOU WANT SOMEONE TO THINK THAT WAY WHEN THEY CAN HIDE BEHIND HOW HORRIBLE THEY HAVE IT Callous comments just show ignorance to LIBERAL WORLD reality. Get away from the money types at the shows. Get in the trenches, where real moms and dads struggle to make ends meet. The rest is just a fantasy. (I CANT EVEN BELEIVE YOU WOULD WRITE SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN THE LAST SENTENCES.)
I grew up with a bed ridden single Mom with multiple Sclerosis and a father that ran from his duties when I was three years old. Food stamps was needed in my house and we used them. 6 siblings got a real high school diploma and college educations. Brother was a principal, sisters were RN's etc etc.
10- my wife was deployed to Iraq and made it out. My best friends son was killed over there so don't spew the crap your spewing. Brother was in Nam too and he came back and became very successful. I get it. There are truly people who need assistance but there are a bigger amount that don't and still receive it.
Happy Super Bowl to those who can afford cable TV
Naz. Maybe you should try associating with successful people to learn how they get to that position in life. Your rose colored glasses have blinded you to the notion of self reliability and responsibility. Hard as you try, you just cannot veil your liberal entitlement personality.
Additionally, if your idea of success is solely based on income earned, you've missed the boat.
Pasq, I won't pull the b.s. you did but I could easily rewrite what you wrote, too. Instead, I'll defend why I feel the way I do about some needing help today by using YOUR VERY OWN WORDS: "Food stamps was needed in my house and we used them."
End of story.
His childish name-calling is symptomatic of not having any rationale behind his opinion. He is part of the problem.
Pasq-I don't care if Jesus Christ himself was in Iraq, it was a waste of time, resources, and valuable American lives. Pull out your bible, they have hated their own existence for a thousand years. They will hate for another thousand years.
Welcome to www.PresidentialDebt.org Home of unbiased data on the national debt! "Interest expense & US national debt by president, year, as % of GDP, per capita & % of per capita income" Updated: Jan 11, 2013 US National Debt & Interest Expense by Presidential Term, Percentage of GDP National Debt, Total Gross Domestic Product Interest Expense Year % Change Debt Total(6) As % of GDP Ending President Current $ (1) Growth Rate, YoY During Presidency Avg. Annual Current $ (2) as % of (As of Sept. 30) 12/31/1976 FORD $653,544,000,000 $1,825,300,000,000 35.8% 12/31/1977 CARTER $718,943,000,000 10.0% $2,030,900,000,000 35.4% 12/31/1978 CARTER $789,207,000,000 9.8% $2,294,700,000,000 34.4% 12/31/1979 CARTER $845,116,000,000 7.1% $2,563,300,000,000 33.0% 12/31/1980 CARTER $930,210,000,000 10.1% 42.3% 9.2% $2,789,500,000,000 33.3% 12/31/1981 REAGAN $1,028,729,000,000 10.6% $3,128,400,000,000 32.9% 12/31/1982 REAGAN $1,197,073,000,000 16.4% $3,255,000,000,000 36.8% 12/31/1983 REAGAN $1,410,702,000,000 17.8% $3,536,700,000,000 39.9% 12/31/1984 REAGAN $1,662,966,000,000 17.9% $3,933,200,000,000 42.3% 12/31/1985 REAGAN $1,945,912,000,000 17.0% $4,220,300,000,000 46.1% 12/31/1986 REAGAN $2,214,835,000,000 13.8% $4,462,800,000,000 49.6% 12/31/1987 REAGAN $2,431,715,000,000 9.8% $4,739,500,000,000 51.3% 12/31/1988 REAGAN $2,684,392,000,000 10.4% 188.6% 14.2% $5,103,800,000,000 52.6% $214,145,028,848 4.2% 12/31/1989 BUSH $2,952,994,000,000 10.0% $5,484,400,000,000 53.8% $240,863,231,536 4.4% 12/31/1990 BUSH $3,364,820,000,000 13.9% $5,803,100,000,000 58.0% $264,852,544,616 4.6% 12/31/1991 BUSH $3,801,800,000,000 13.0% $5,995,900,000,000 63.4% $286,021,921,181 4.8% 12/31/1992 BUSH $4,177,009,000,000 9.9% 55.6% 11.7% $6,337,700,000,000 65.9% $292,361,073,071 4.6% 12/31/1993 CLINTON $4,535,687,054,406 8.6% $6,657,400,000,000 68.1% $292,502,219,484 4.4% 12/31/1994 CLINTON $4,800,149,946,143 5.8% $7,072,200,000,000 67.9% $296,277,764,246 4.2% 12/31/1995 CLINTON $4,988,664,979,014 3.9% $7,397,700,000,000 67.4% $332,413,555,031 4.5% 12/31/1996 CLINTON $5,323,171,750,783 6.7% $7,816,900,000,000 68.1% $343,955,076,695 4.4% 12/31/1997 CLINTON $5,502,388,012,375 3.4% $8,304,300,000,000 66.3% $355,795,834,215 4.3% 12/31/1998 CLINTON $5,614,217,021,195 2.0% $8,747,000,000,000 64.2% $363,823,722,920 4.2% 12/31/1999 CLINTON $5,776,091,314,225 2.9% $9,268,400,000,000 62.3% $353,511,471,723 3.8% 12/31/2000 CLINTON $5,662,216,013,697 -2.0% 35.6% 3.9% $9,817,000,000,000 57.7% $361,997,734,302 3.7% 12/31/2001 BUSH $5,943,438,563,436 5.0% $10,286,200,000,000 57.8% $359,507,635,242 3.5% 12/31/2002 BUSH $6,405,707,456,847 7.8% $10,642,300,000,000 60.2% $332,536,958,599 3.1% 12/31/2003 BUSH $7,001,312,247,818 9.3% $11,142,100,000,000 62.8% $318,148,529,152 2.9% 12/31/2004 BUSH $7,596,165,867,424 8.5% $11,867,800,000,000 64.0% $321,566,323,971 2.7% 12/30/2005 BUSH $8,170,424,541,313 7.6% $12,638,400,000,000 64.6% $352,350,252,508 2.8% 12/29/2006 BUSH $8,680,224,380,086 6.2% $13,398,900,000,000 64.8% $405,872,109,316 3.0% 12/28/2007 BUSH $9,229,172,659,218 6.3% $14,077,600,000,000 65.6% $429,977,998,108 3.1% 12/31/2008 BUSH $10,699,804,864,612 15.9% 89.0% 8.3% $14,441,400,000,000 74.1% $451,154,049,951 3.1% 12/31/2009 OBAMA $12,311,349,677,512 15.1% $14,256,300,000,000 86.4% $383,071,060,815 2.7% 12/31/2010 OBAMA $14,025,215,218,709 13.9% $14,745,100,000,000 95.1% $413,954,825,362 2.8% 12/31/2011 OBAMA $15,125,898,976,397 7.8% $15,321,000,000,000 98.7% $454,393,280,417 3.0% 12/31/2012 OBAMA $16,432,730,050,569 8.6% 53.6% 11.3% $15,811,000,000,000 103.9% <1st time: Exceeds 100% of GDP Red text: Trend is worsening. Green text: Trend is improving Table, formatting, page © 2005-2012 PresidentialDebt.org. All rights reserved. LINKS TO THIS PAGE SHOULD BE TO www.PresidentialDebt.org. (Request permission before using/linking: [email protected]) US National Debt by Presidential Term, per Capita National Debt National Debt, per Capita Year Total Est Debt, % Change Personal Disp. Income per Capita Income Ending President Current $ (1) Population (3) per Capita YoY During Presidency Avg. Annual Current $ (4) Debt as % of Current $ (5) Debt as % of 12/31/1976 FORD $653,544,000,000 218,035,164 $2,997 $5,972 50% $5,271 57% 12/31/1977 CARTER $718,943,000,000 220,239,425 $3,264 8.9% $6,517 50% $5,785 56% 12/31/1978 CARTER $789,207,000,000 222,584,545 $3,546 8.6% $7,224 49% $6,455 55% 12/31/1979 CARTER $845,116,000,000 225,055,487 $3,755 5.9% $7,967 47% $7,168 52% 12/31/1980 CARTER $930,210,000,000 227,224,681 $4,094 9.0% 36.6% 8.1% $8,822 46% $7,787 53% 12/31/1981 REAGAN $1,028,729,000,000 229,465,714 $4,483 9.5% $9,765 46% $8,476 53% 12/31/1982 REAGAN $1,197,073,000,000 231,664,458 $5,167 15.3% $10,426 50% $8,980 58% 12/31/1983 REAGAN $1,410,702,000,000 233,791,994 $6,034 16.8% $11,131 54% $9,494 64% 12/31/1984 REAGAN $1,662,966,000,000 235,824,902 $7,052 16.9% $12,319 57% $10,328 68% 12/31/1985 REAGAN $1,945,912,000,000 237,923,795 $8,179 16.0% $13,037 63% $11,013 74% 12/31/1986 REAGAN $2,214,835,000,000 240,132,887 $9,223 12.8% $13,649 68% $11,670 79% 12/31/1987 REAGAN $2,431,715,000,000 242,288,918 $10,036 8.8% $14,241 70% $12,391 81% 12/31/1988 REAGAN $2,684,392,000,000 244,498,982 $10,979 9.4% 168.2% 13.1% $15,297 72% $13,123 84% 12/31/1989 BUSH $2,952,994,000,000 246,819,230 $11,964 9.0% $16,257 74% $14,056 85% 12/31/1990 BUSH $3,364,820,000,000 249,464,396 $13,488 12.7% $17,131 79% $14,387 94% 12/31/1991 BUSH $3,801,800,000,000 252,153,092 $15,077 11.8% $17,609 86% $14,617 103% 12/31/1992 BUSH $4,177,009,000,000 255,029,699 $16,379 8.6% 49.2% 10.5% $18,494 89% $14,847 110% 12/31/1993 CLINTON $4,535,687,054,406 257,782,608 $17,595 7.4% $18,794 94% $15,777 112% 12/31/1994 CLINTON $4,800,149,946,143 260,327,021 $18,439 4.8% $19,255 96% $16,555 111% 12/31/1995 CLINTON $4,988,664,979,014 262,803,276 $18,983 2.9% $20,114 94% $17,227 110% 12/31/1996 CLINTON $5,323,171,750,783 265,228,572 $20,070 5.7% $20,682 97% $18,136 111% 12/31/1997 CLINTON $5,502,388,012,375 267,783,607 $20,548 2.4% $21,683 95% $19,241 107% 12/31/1998 CLINTON $5,614,217,021,195 270,248,003 $20,774 1.1% $23,870 87% $20,120 103% 12/31/1999 CLINTON $5,776,091,314,225 272,690,813 $21,182 2.0% $24,823 85% $21,239 100% 12/31/2000 CLINTON $5,662,216,013,697 282,171,957 $20,067 -5.3% 22.5% 2.6% $26,282 76% $22,346 90% 12/31/2001 BUSH $5,943,438,563,436 285,081,556 $20,848 3.9% $26,827 78% $22,851 91% 12/31/2002 BUSH $6,405,707,456,847 287,803,914 $22,257 6.8% $27,957 80% $22,794 98% 12/31/2003 BUSH $7,001,312,247,818 290,326,418 $24,115 8.3% $29,330 82% $23,276 104% 12/31/2004 BUSH $7,596,165,867,424 293,045,739 $25,921 7.5% $31,001 84% $23,857 109% 12/30/2005 BUSH $8,170,424,541,313 295,753,151 $27,626 6.6% $31,909 87% $25,036 110% 12/28/2006 BUSH $8,680,224,380,086 298,593,212 $29,070 5.2% $33,680 86% $26,352 110% 12/31/2007 BUSH $9,229,172,659,218 301,579,895 $30,603 5.3% $34,893 88% $26,804 114% 12/31/2008 BUSH $10,699,804,864,612 304,374,846 $35,153 14.9% 75.2% 7.3% $35,304 100% $26,964 130% 12/31/2009 OBAMA $12,311,349,677,512 307,006,550 $40,101 14.1% $35,044 114% $26,530 151% 12/31/2010 OBAMA $14,025,215,218,709 310,516,821 $45,167 12.6% $36,436 124% $26,487 171% 12/31/2011 OBAMA $15,125,898,976,397 312,788,655 $48,358 7.1% $36,983 131% $26,487 183% 12/31/2012 OBAMA $16,432,730,050,569 315,090,185 $52,152 7.8% 48.4% 10.4% $37,905 138% $27,554 189% LINKS TO THIS PAGE SHOULD BE TO www.PresidentialDebt.org. (Request permission before using/linking: [email protected]) Red text: Trend is worsening. Green text: Trend is improving (1) http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/BPDLogin?application=np (4) http://www.bea.gov/national/nipaweb/SelectTable.asp?Selected=Y#S2 (2) http://www.bea.gov/newsreleases/national/gdp/gdpnewsrelease.htm (5) http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/income/data/historical/people/index.html (3) http://www.census.gov/main/www/popclock.html (6) http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/ir/ir_expense.htm Table, formatting, page © 2005-2012 PresidentialDebt.org. Rights reserved.
He helped me sooo much but only for a short while.I will never forget him for it. But I was embarrassed to have him buy my food for me and my kids during my Dad time at his house. Oh well... enough. Sorry Naz you are probably a nice guy but today your thread to Cat. Mike telling him to stop fraternizing with the "rich" blew me away.
There are millions of disabled persons in the U.S. that would gladly trade places with any one of us able-bodied persons — whether we're wealthy or just scraping by, wouldn't matter — than have to rely on government assistance.
Pasq, many folks worked hard to get where they're at, but many also started with a golden spoon (and don't "get it"). Others weren't given anything. My point was not to tell him who to hang with, but to have some empathy, maybe even spend some time with those less fortunate and hear their stories, feel their pain, see their struggles. It seems lost on him.
As for you, you said, "I just don't understand the thoughts behind the what's free for me of today" yet you also said, "Food stamps was needed in my house and we used them." Do you honestly think you're the only one who grew up without a father? My dad left when I was three, leaving my mom with eight kids. No food stamps, no child support. My mom worked two jobs, more than full-time, to make ends meet. So she didn't have MS. Well, many folks today are also disabled and also need assistance. Why are you and others so focused on the cheats of the system? Those aren't the ones I'm talking about.
People control their own destiny. Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react to it. Pasq serves as a great example to this. I also don't understand the "I want everyone for nothing" mentality.
http://www.skymachines.com/Stuff/http/www.presidentialdebt.org
November I have a girl at work who's boyfriend has been arrested 5 times for drunk driving and doing time. He is trying to get disability because he said the cops treated him wrong. Guess what he has an attorney that has taken his case.
By the way, thank you for wife's service!
Thank you on the wife thing. She came back with incredible stories the media never showed unfortunately. We the people will never witness what these guys and gals have seen. Screw the youth hunt and do a wounded warrior hunt instead! HA
Everyone here is entitled to their own opinion, it just needs to be civil. The mud slinging is infantile. This country has spent the last 50 plus years trying to be everything to every nation in the world. Sorry but, it's not possible. All the while, we have neglected our own people and infrastructure all in the name of being a global economy and competing in the world. You guys want to label me, label me an isolationist. I've had my fill of this country policing the world. I would cut the rest of the world off and let them figure out for themselves.
Here here on that one 10. I concur 100%. I too am tired of us trying to control and dictate to the rest of the world how they should conduct business while stepping in on every dispute. That money can be used within our own borders for our own people (those deserving of course :)).
Of course this is not a scientific poll, but maybe if I asked a few of the people with "will work for food" signs that I see near the airports I can get an opposing point of view?
What an arrogant-@$$ comment.
Did you know that 91 percent of government benefits go to the disabled, elderly or working households?
The idea that someone could possibly put out the effort, yet not gain ground, seems so inconceivable to those who don't have to worry how they're going to pay bills at the end of the month.
Quote from http://www.povertyprogram.com/usa.php:
"Poverty is the unrelenting daily task of trying to make ends meet. It is the daily stress and worry about whether the car will break down or someone will get ill or your child will need a new pair of shoes. And then having to choose between whether to pay the rent, pay for medicine or pay for food. Which necessity will have to be sacrificed to pay for the added expense of the unexpected bill? Poverty is the exhausting, unending, time-consuming struggle of juggling and just hoping to make ends meet with no end in sight. Poverty robs you of a sense of security and it destroys your self-esteem and your hope for the future."
Naz, you are laughable. Your simpleness of mind makes it so easy to pull your strings. Thanks for the entertainment between my visits with people who work hard for what they have.
Naz, I really have to disagree with this. Hereditary, no way possible as it is not a DNA trait. A Learned Trait - possibly. That exact scenario is what drives me nuts with people like certain African Americans who feel that what happened in slavery dictates their current state of affairs. The same is exactly true with Indians. There is no reason for their high poverty and high alcoholism lifestyle when they are given whatever they need to succeed. They can basically go to college for free whereas I am paying a mint for my daughter to attend UW Madison. I work my butt off to provide for my family. I pay towards my own insurance and I pay alot towards my own future retirement. That is how America works and should work.
Again, life is 10% what happens to you and 90% how you react to it.
Cut all entitlements. .. cold turkey .. and you will never see another million man march.. or a rely on wall street... or a Ferguson. .. why?? Because folks that need to work to eat don't have time to rally or loot.. they are too busy workin..
Cold turkey... end all entitlements. .proble. solved
Next problem?
So easy to judge others, yet the haughty will sooner or later get what's coming to them. Be careful, it's a long way down from that high horse!
Hmm, what mental block do you have that prevents you from seeing that wealth redistribution has already proven to be INEFFECTIVE?
Pardon the shouting, just wanted to make sure you could hear it down there.
I watched the guv this morning with the talking heads. Claims ISIL represents a threat to our security and he wouldn't rule out 'boots on the ground' in Syria, Iraq or elsewhere. Would have preferred that Martha asked him about how he'd deal with the Putin's invasion of east Ukraine.
Anyway, about that immediate threat. I'm not going to lose any sleep over the subject. I don't think those ISIL nobs could deal with the Wisconsin winters...
As has been demonstrated many times over, conservatives are much more likely to give than are liberals. If you give yourself I give you credit but don't think for a moment that you are the Lone Ranger. The " Holier than thou" crap is simply that. I don't know what you or Naz give any more than you know what I or anyone else gives.
What a pile of Barbra Streisand!
Barbara Streisand would have to sing for him...
Turkeyhunter's Link
Doesn’t mean Walker won’t win. It’s just that it’s very far from a sure thing.
Based off of past caucuses, Walker has about a 17 percent chance of winning Iowa given his standing in the polls right now - but that calculation is based on just a handful of data points.
So far it's all puppies and unicorns for Walker. There will be negative press. Can he take a punch?
2016 election is a loooong ways off.
Zero reason for welfare .. of any kind in this country... zero..
Poll that lets paid staffers vote as many times as they want.
Hilarious! Thanks for the chuckle Howatt. You're a funny, funny guy.
Because Scott Walker’s background is grounded in state-based domestic policy, Walker supporters will, no doubt, give the Governor an undeserved pass on his lack of foreign policy ideas—bold or otherwise. However, Walker couldn’t manage to muster up anything remotely new, bold or interesting when responding to a question on a critical domestic issue like immigration.
When Raddatz asked, “What would you do about the 11 million undocumented who are still here?,” Walker responded, “We for sure need to secure the border. I think we need to enforce the legal system. I’m not for amnesty, I’m not an advocate of the plans that have been pushed here in Washington… we need to find a way for people to have a legitimate legal immigration system in this country, and that doesn’t mean amnesty.”
Wow…how is it possible that nobody else has thought of securing the border? This is a new and bold idea.
And while he bravely suggested that we need to ‘find a way for people to have a legitimate legal immigration system in this country,” the whole idea of having bold, fresh and new ideas is to actually propose these big solutions—not remind us that “somebody” needs to “find a way.”
While the Wisconsin Governor obviously had absolutely nothing new to offer beyond what we’ve heard over and over and over again from his fellow Republicans, there was, in fact, something new in what Walker had to say—like an entirely new personal perspective on immigration.
While speaking with the Wausau, Wisconsin Daily Herald editorial board in 2013, the Governor suggested that there was “a saner way to let people into the country” rather than focusing on border security.
Said the Governor, “It’s all is about the 11 million. You hear some people talk about border security and a wall and all that. To me, I don’t know that you need any of that if you had a better, saner way to let people into the country in the first place” (emphasis added).
I guess Walker’s idea of a big and bold new idea is to simply turn tail on what he previously said when his previous position turns out to be offensive to the Republican base.
Here is the reality—as I’ve been saying for longer than I can remember, Scott Walker is a mediocre county executive who has risen far beyond his talents.
The very notion that he brings the gravitas and talent required to assume the mantle of the President of the United States and leader of the Free World reveals just how low the expectations of many Americans have fallen.
If you want a solid conservative as our next president, I may disagree with the politics but I can certainly understand and appreciate that there are millions of Americans who believe that a conservative executive branch is the way to go.
But it is not too early to understand that candidates like Scott Walker are not the quality of conservative that would allow Americans to sleep soundly at night.
At the end of the day, Governor Walker did us all a favor yesterday.
By revealing, in such glowing fashion, that he lacks the ability to do anything more than mouth the same old stuff while pretending that it is somehow new and bold, he showed himself completely inadequate to deal with the difficult substance that comes with the Office of the Presidency.
If you are one of those people who believes that the current occupant of the White House has not lived up to your standards, consider why you would want to replace him with someone who spouts great self-confidence at the very same time he reveals how little reason he has for possessing that confidence.
And then ask yourself, is this really the best you’ve got?
The story of a Detroit man who has been walking 21 miles a day to get to and from work for over a decade inspired a Michigan college student to launch an online campaign to buy him a car. Thanks to the generosity of strangers, the campaign has raised more than $60,000 in a day.
Since buses don't cover the entire 23-mile route, 56-year-old James Robertson spends nearly all of his free time during the week commuting to his $10.55 an hour factory job in Rochester Hills. According to the Detroit Free Press, which published a front-page story about him Sunday, Robertson begins his trek at 8 a.m. to catch buses that take him to a Troy, Mich., mall before he walks 7 miles to Schain Mold & Engineering, where he begins his 2 p.m. to 10 p.m. shift. And according to his boss, Robertson has a perfect attendance record.
"I set our attendance standard by this man," Todd Wilson, plant manager at Schain Mold & Engineering, told the paper. "I say, if this man can get here, walking all those miles through snow and rain, well I'll tell you, I have people in Pontiac 10 minutes away and they say they can't get here — bull!"
Robertson has been making the same four-hour commute to the plant since 2005, when his car — a 1988 Honda Accord — quit on him. Robertson didn't replace it, he says, because "he hasn't had a chance to save for it."
"I keep a rhythm in my head," Robertson said of his near-marathon daily slog. (He also stays caffeinated "by downing 2-liter bottles of Mountain Dew and cans of Coke.")
His commute home takes even longer. Leaving work after 10 p.m., Robertson walks the 7 miles back to the mall, where he catches the last bus of the day, just before 1 a.m., taking it as far as it goes: the State Fairgrounds on Woodward, just south of 8 Mile. From there, he walks roughly 5 miles back to home through what he describes as a dangerous section of town.
"I have to go through Highland Park, and you never know what you're going to run into," Robertson says. "It's pretty dangerous. Really, it is, from 8 Mile on down. They're not the type of people you want to run into. But I've never had any trouble." (According to Wilson, Robertson got mugged once but doesn't like to talk about it.)
By the time he gets home, at 4 a.m., it's almost time to do it again.
Robertson rarely accepts rides, though a banker who befriended Robertson while stopped in traffic has given him dozens this winter, the Free Press said.
The story inspired Evan Leedy, a 19-year-old computer science major at Wayne State University, to set up the campaign on the crowdfunding website GoFundMe with a goal of raising $5,000. Within an hour, more than $2,000 was raised, Leedy told the paper. Through Monday afternoon, the campaign had raised $62,444 via nearly 2,000 donations.
According to Leedy, all the money raised will be set aside for Robertson's car, insurance, gas and maintenance.
Meanwhile, a local car dealership has offered to give Robertson a free car.
"He gets to choose," Angela Osborne, customer service specialist at Rodgers Chevrolet in Woodhaven, Mich., said. "We were just impressed with his determination."
I agree with that. Im just glad that Walker has about as many paid staffers as all the other candidates COMBINED! ;-)
Scott says: Vote early - vote often.
Howatt - remove the DEBATE FREE designation. I want to know what people really think here. I want 'em to take off the gloves, stop being so polite, and show some realism.
They did a couple few times voting.
Politics are not even supposed to be discussed on here, Ronnie, RC, Howatt, or whatever name he signed in under today knows that. Then putting it as debate free is just his way of trying to get a rise out of everyone.
PLEASE everyone hit the alert button on him so hopefully he is made to leave this forum again like he has been many times in the past. I have alerted the moderators about him but if enough people do it maybe they will listen to us.
The question asked was 'In a Republican presidential primary, who would you prefer as the GOP nominee?'
http://www.newsmax.com/Surveys/
Turkeyhunter's Link
I don't think he can withstand the scrutiny that comes with a national profile campaign.
Turkeyhunter's Link
I don't think he can withstand the scrutiny that comes with a national profile campaign.
"but those that think a lack of a sheepskin will matter in any way for Walker, you are dreaming."
Dreams do come true, if only we wish hard enough - Peter Pan
Turkeyhunter's Link
The Republicans have not won a U.S. presidential election without a Bush on the ticket since 1972.
If you think Walker can win a general election then embrace the dream.
Dreams do come true, if only we wish hard enough - Peter Pan
And, there is a huge difference between Gates, Allen, Zuckerberg, and Walker. Walker has never built a company from literally a basement or garage, personally created jobs as a business owner, never run a business big or small, never contributed to the Gross National Product in any form. Unless you count a lemonade stand as business?
Just a little difference, ONLY A SEVERAL BILLION DOLLAR difference!
Who is hitlerly or is that an adverb?
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker jumped to the front of the unimpressive GOP 2016 presidential pack thanks in large part to rave reviews for his speech at the conservative Iowa Freedom Summit late last month. (The Washington Post charts the impact of the speech here.)
But it turns out one of its most powerful moments was a lie.
Walker told the story of Megan Sampson, whom he said was “the [2010] Outstanding Teacher of the Year in my state.” He claimed Sampson was laid off that same year by Milwaukee Public Schools because of union seniority rules, which were abolished by Act 10, the 2011 legislation that dismantled protections for public employees.
In fact, Sampson was not the Outstanding Teacher of the Year, not even one of them. An actual 2010 Wisconsin Teacher of the Year, Claudia Klein Felske, who won the high school award, laid out the extent of Walker’s fib in an open letter to Walker posted on the Marquette Educator site Monday. There were also awards given for middle school, elementary school and special services teachers of the year, she explained, but Sampson was not among them.
It turns out the award Megan Sampson received was the “Nancy Hoefs Memorial Award,” given to “an outstanding first year teacher of language arts” by a small Wisconsin English teachers association. Winners nominate themselves, and there were fewer than a dozen such nominations that year.
It’s true that Sampson was sent a layoff notice due to state budget cuts that year, and seniority was one factor, but she was recalled to her post that same summer. She declined the job, and went to teach in the suburbs.
And while Walker was boasting that his 2011 rollback of public workers’ rights made layoffs of younger teachers like Sampson impossible, in fact Act 10 doesn’t even prevent the use of seniority in layoffs. (Uppity Wisconsin has a good recap of Walker’s distortions here.)
Walker has used Sampson politically before. In a 2011 Wall Street Journal editorial, he told her story a tiny bit differently, saying she “was named an Outstanding First Year Teacher in Wisconsin,” while still using her to hype his assault on collective bargaining.
Walker attended Marquette for four years but was 34 credits short of earning an undergraduate degree, which would have taken another year to finish. During his college years, Walker held a 2.59 grade point average. The profile describes the early political life of a suit-clad, teenage Walker as he navigated the world of student government. His college career included a run for student body president (he lost by 15 percentage points) and an investigation into a homecoming weekend scandal in which a dozen students charged nearly $1,000 to the student government’s account for flowers and champagne.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/02/scott-walker-college-reunion-115115.html#ixzz3RX86kmju
On a serious note, no candidate should be considered for President without a military background. Not Walker, not Hillary, not Obama! The candidate does not have to reach any particular rank but, should have served. If I had my way it would be extended to the offices of Mayor, Governor, Senator, Congressman, all high level offices within our government. I believe it gives a man or woman a better set of tools to deal with conflict.
Got wind of a bill proposed to end state payments to local governments that offset lost property taxes for land purchased through the Stewardship program. What kind of shitty idea is that?
Pasquinell's Link
Just out of curiosity, any idea what type of degree is needed to know the correct spelling for the word "loser?"
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - When Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, a potential Republican presidential candidate, traveled on a trade mission to Britain last week, he brought along top officials from his economic development agency to help drum up jobs. It's a task they have struggled to accomplish at home.
The Wisconsin Economic Development Corporation, a public-private body set up by Walker shortly after he took office in January 2011, was supposed to help the state climb out of recession by shedding bureaucratic rules and drawing on private-sector expertise.
But the WEDC has fallen short of its own goals by tens of thousands of jobs and failed to keep track of millions of dollars it has handed out. One reason for the agency's disappointing performance: Walker's overhaul of the state bureaucracy drove away seasoned development workers, economic development experts who work closely with the agency told Reuters.
Critics say the WEDC's struggles highlight a significant gap in Walker's resume as he lays the groundwork for a likely Republican presidential bid in the 2016 election: his middling record on job creation.
"Essentially we've been surfing on the national recovery," said Marc Levine, a senior fellow at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee's Center for Economic Development. "The idea was that Wisconsin policies are better than the national policies and we were going to move ahead of the national rate. That clearly hasn't happened."
Walker's office dismisses such criticism, saying the WEDC, which he chairs, is one part of a comprehensive strategy that includes tax cuts, streamlined regulations, worker training and targeted investments in areas like energy and shipbuilding.
ummm yea.... got rid of the overpaid ones with seniority that were protected by corrupt unions.
FullDraw2015's Link
FullDraw2015's Link
Fulldraw, not an easy task after the many years of high corporate taxes and union greed that pushed many employers out of the state. Memories tend to be long so it is not realistic to expect a turn-around over night. Time and money spent fighting the failed recall effort also took resources away from him. I'm not giving him a free pass but to be objective, all issues need to be considered.
Organized in opposition to many cuts in Walker's proposed budget, including those to per-pupil aid for public schools, funding for the University of Wisconsin System, and support for SeniorCare and BadgerCare.
Walker's budget will result in nearly $1 million in cuts to Wauwatosa public schools.
UW officials predict layoffs as a result of Walker's proposed $300 million cut to the state university system.
Local deer and turkey hunter is making detours again just to get home after work.
They would then get back on the Gator and return to the work area. They would "work" another hour or so and have to leave for lunch break which always ran over its half hour time. The same thing happened in the afternoon 15 minute break. All he did was ride around basically and worked three hours a day.
They always had to bring in outside help to get jobs completed or work self created overtime is how he put it. The waste was crazy he said and nobody cared. He couldn't do it anymore and left. They were protected. He now works with teamsters but on the non union side and they are always filing grievances. Driving him nuts!
My wife was in charge of maintenance at a High School for 3 years and the waste was unbelievable. The vice principal was constantly having the schools tractors and equipment brought to his mini farm home for his own use utilizing school vehicles to deliver them and employees getting paid to deliver. Tools were disappearing and nobody new where they went... Waste
This is the one item that is very concerning to me. First though, I applaud Walker for the tuition freeze seeing I have a daughter at Madison (she is a member of the Madison Republican's organization). Now, this massive reduction in budget might just cause a huge increase in tuition when UW can do increases again in 2017. I did not like Walker's comment that professors should simply teach an additional course. He doesn't realize how much time professors spend outside the classroom. I believe he wants to treat the UW system the same as the Wisconsin public school system but I don't feel it is an apples to apples comparison.
Smart phone gone bad?
The professors outside the classroom are writing books, papers and performing other self benefiting tasks that have nothing to do with what the TAX PAYERS are PAYING them to do! That is Teach full time!
I would vote for a candidate that sported a mullet...
So he left.
haha
Name a business that Walker started.
haha
haha
I bet Walker doesnt have Sharpton over 80 times to the WH
Nobody cares about Obama. Last time I looked he's not running.
haha
Does that make him a member of the 47% - a TAKER?
haha
haha
See Ben lose. Lose Ben lose.
Not electible in a general.
Dreams do come true, if only we wish hard enough - Peter Pan.
haha
In this case it was not a matter of party - it was a matter of race. Very similar to the Walker recall election where it was a matter of private versus public sector more than party. The Democrats will win everytime if they put up a minority. A white woman would not do it. Put up a minority woman and it would be a landslide..
21 individuals named to his team. All served in high-level positions in his father’s and his brother’s administrations.
They represent the full spectrum of views within the Republican foreign policy establishment — from relative moderates, including former secretaries of state George Shultz and James Baker, to staunch neoconservatives such as Iraq war architect Paul Wolfowitz.
Jeb Bush rocks!
Scott Walker punts on foreign policy questions.
Unintimidated.
haha
Crowning achievement.
Haha
"Haha"
Turkey, your hatred of Walker is clear but as you questioned me, are you speaking for the entire community of CFPs or Waukesha bartenters? Or are you just nuts?
Maybe you'll just critique my writing again or just send unwanted PMs or even search out my e-mail. lol
Maybe you'll just critique my writing again or just send unwanted PMs or even search out my e-mail. lol"
Don't hate Walker. Where'd you get that impression? Wouldn't you be surprised to know I voted for him - three times! (But let's just keep that a secret between you and me.)
He won't be president because he cannot win a general election.
Neverthless, dreams do come true, if only you wish hard enough.
Peter Pan
haha
Your email is on page 5 of The Bowhunter (official publication of the WBH). It was hiding in plain sight.
haha
Needs an exorcism.
Good Jesuit priest would put an end to it.
haha
Did Jeb serve the country in the military?
Yes he did. Big and bold was he.
"Did Jeb serve the country in the military?"
Nope.
In modern politics no candidate is perfect Pasq. Some are more flawed than others.
Hopefully the process of natural selection removes them from the primary gene pool so that maybe (finally) the Repubs can win a presidential election.
Do we need another Bush?? Me personally don't think so or want so.
New blood and for sure change is needed. Understand why Romney didn't run but wish he had sort of. A business man and think it would have done us good but him losing proved this country has changed.
For you non believing Bible people... you better be right cause its hot in Hell. For you faith believers its getting close... REAL close.
hahaha
Good point on Ash Wednesday.
Nevertheless, If you believe that man walked with dinosaurs and brand those that appreciate science as elitists that may play well to the base. I get it.
It is not going to be received well by the big fat middle. Dropping out of college complicates this further for the governor. And for that reason Scott Walker cannot win a general election.
Peter Pan sez that dreams do come true, if only you wish hard enough.
I call Pixie Dust.
Just my take.
haha
Don't believe in Pixie Dust. Come down on the side of science. Long time between now and 2016. Darwin has a theory about the strong the weak and the flawed. Bottom line - Jeb is the only candidate capable of carrying a general election.
Anything else is a waste of time, money, resources and Pixie Dust (if you believe in PD).
Just my .02. You heard it here first.
haha
Turkeyhunter's Link
FYI - this week the post on a Rough-legged hawk has been capturing more traffic than the news about the 'mob' of a couple of dozen pickets marching past my neighbor's house around the corner.
If page views are to be believed (and it is difficult to disprove them) - raptors are more popular than the governor. In his own home town. Ouch.
Wauwatosa readers rock!
haha
That's a keeper. Bowsite needs a Like Button.
haha
imperious adjective assuming power or authority without justification; arrogant and domineering.
synonyms: overbearing, overweening, bossy, arrogant, haughty, presumptuous; informal: pushy, high and mighty.
antonyms: humble
overweening adjective overconfident, conceited, cocksure, cocky, condescending, smug, haughty, supercilious, patronizing, arrogant, proud, vain, self-important, imperious, overbearing; informal high and mighty, uppish.
All other state workers get 1% base raise.
Then there's the the overtime, pension, health insurance and more.
Gravy train.
Boom!
RC - tell us which way you care for the taxpayer to bend.
haha
