Teeton's Link
Here is a link to some info on it. I ask that if you can to call ur Senator and ask them to vote no on amendments 838 no on 747 and yes on 1024.. Please read the info from the link.
http://www.backcountryhunters.org/index.php/65-outreach/action-alerts/890-take-action-votes-today-on-the-sale-of-public-land
DaleHajas's Link
The first time I went to the BHA website several years ago they linked to sister websites, one of which was The Sierra Club. This can go on forever...
For now I will post some info on BHA. Read the funding links...
https://www.greendecoys.com/decoys/backcountry-hunters-and-anglers/
Also can anyone tell me who Green decoys is and what there agenda is.. Are they a group that's just against the things that BHA is for. Green Decoy is also against many well known outdoor groups. Is Green Decoy is just for big business? Has Green Decoy ever supported, given money to any group that not for development. Ed
And who cares about this green decoy site..... Just answer us this:
Has or does BHA ever accepted funds from anti hunting groups? Will they continue to do so in the future?
Answer this and then we'll discuss the other site please?
Why is it any of my business what the state of Utah does with THEIR property?
I sure hope the answer isn't with Pittman-Robertson Act funds.
As for the Green Decoy site I thought you did (cared) as u brought it up.
As for public lands,, I care. It's ok that you don't. I hunt on lands that this group is trying to keep public so that I can keep hunting and using.
I'd hate to see any of my state, federal or gamelands sold in Pa or sold anywhere else.. What I have seen is the public land that is sold is sold for way way less than that same land if it was owned by a person or company. I've seen 1000's of acres in my county sold that I hunted on and now can't. Small groups tried to buy it in pieces but it had to be sold all to the same person/group. So no one could afford the price it was sold for that way. I wish we had a group that could of helped at that time.
As for if the bha is trying to form and working groups with any other Pa state groups. I don't know.. But that is a good idea and should be looked into.
I do know that they are one of the biggest lobbing groups to keep public lands public in the USA and do butt heads with groups/companies trying to buy public lands. Yes there is other things that BHA do besides trying to keep public land public.. Since I'm been a member I have not seen anything that they lobbied to stop hunting or have I seen them give money to any anti hunting group.
If they take money from a anti hunting group and it keep me hunting, I'm all for it. Ed
when the congress was taken control by the "R" s the "D" s knew this was coming. Time to scare up some votes for next election. Both sides do it. It's the way govt works. The cycle will most likely continue again, by reversal.
Maybe Utah will get their land back.... Hayl maybe the injuns will get back their lands!:)
What's lost here is tha BHA has taken $$ from anti hunting groups.....
Bobby Mc...... Can libertarians drink beer:)
DaleHajas's Link
Big Govt wants to steal MORE public ground
http://m.azdailysun.com/news/stronger-push-toward-creating-a-grand-canyon-watershed-national-monument/article_7d810159-1289-52ad-b225-7d0eae42a781.html?mobile_touch=true
I'm still trying to wrap my head around this item you wrote; "If they take money from a anti hunting group and it keep me hunting, I'm all for it. Ed"
My friend, in the long term the enemy of your enemy is still your enemy.
Has anyone ever heard of the "Wild Lands Project?" I was pounding that drum in the 90's? The Wild Lands Project was kind of absorbed into Agenda 21. If you know what I'm talking about...Dale's link kinda smells like that. If you don't know what I'm talking bout, I suggest you do your own research (not just a Wikapedia explanation.)
Question with boldness:)
It is important to understand that the FED's do not own the National Forests. National Forests were given to us by Teddy and, have been purchased by public funds to ensure the public has a place to recreate. Laws state this. Regulations and laws ensure we the people control the management on it as it is ours. Owned collectively by each American Citizen.
Federal land is owned by the government, not the people and, has been up for sale on and off for a long time. The thing is, the radical groups that Dale speaks of cares not to represent the difference. They are after funding and membership numbers.
I nor anyone else can attest to what Congress will do in the future. As they are constantly trying to stomp on our toes. But, by law they can't just take what they don't own. Will that stop them from trying? I don't know. It has in the past so far with truly PUBLIC land.
This is a concerning thing in the fact that we are in a corner here as working Americans and, our elected idiots are at a loss for funding. While they aren't likely to try and take what belongs to us, we do need to stay involved and informed. But, do not let scare tactics cloud your vision here. Federal land does not belong to us Americans. it belongs to the Us government. Public land belongs to the American Public, not the government.
Contact your congress representatives and senators and tell them to do with the federal land as they wish, But, make them aware that National forests do not belong to the feds. It belongs to us and we will be watching. God Bless
It just tears at my inner being seeing hunter money being used to scam and subvert the constitution, for the benefit of one political party. And it doesn't matter which party it is.
I make wine as well.
Nice bottles, Bob! :)
Several years ago, BHA had linked their sister orgs, one the Sierra Club, now they constantly complain that conservative are all for selling off the land, yet nary a word about the big left guys like Buffet and Soros, and the head of BHA ran an Obama PAC. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....
If progs lose fed control, will Buffet get charged to run his Koch oil carrying (and spilling btw) trains thru the wilderness areas?:)
What more do you need to know? Sure nobody wants to 'lose' their hunting grounds!? Ed just stated an in incidence where big govt-ACE stopped rifle hunting an area. Did you have a chance to vote on that Ed? Nope.
I know that hunting orgs occasionally join hands with unlikely orgs but taking big $$ from groups that support the anti-hunting agenda is kind of a red flag to me?:)
FWIW I hunt ACE property, public ground, private ground open to the public..
It is not unlike some of the arguments in this nation's early days as to who was entitled to vote, landowners only was one proposal. Voting would have been only for the elite, less public land would provide more for private ownership, but many could not afford it. We need those "many" people as hunters, not disenfranchised serfs.
8pointer 's Link