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Hall Monitor Bob
Connecticut
Contributors to this thread:
bigbuckbob 11-May-15
CTCrow 11-May-15
Paul 11-May-15
bigbuckbob 12-May-15
onepin 12-May-15
bigbuckbob 12-May-15
cuntrytocity 12-May-15
nehunter 12-May-15
notme 12-May-15
bigbuckbob 12-May-15
cuntrytocity 12-May-15
Tradspirit 12-May-15
bigbuckbob 12-May-15
spike78 12-May-15
CTCrow 12-May-15
cuntrytocity 13-May-15
bigbuckbob 13-May-15
BowhunterVA33 13-May-15
From: bigbuckbob
11-May-15
Why do I make comments about gun safety?

I've had MORE than my share of close encounters with gun hunters, of which I was/am still one. Here are just a couple in the interest to keep it short.

Went deer hunting with 3 friends years ago and 3 out of 4 of us were sitting on a log eating lunch. The 4th was standing behind us with gun in hand when he decided to check his gun to see if it was loaded,...............by pulling the trigger on his 30-06 about 12 inches from my head. I almost gagged on my sandwich.

My brother and I were shooting trap at Bristol F&G when the guy standing next to my brother closed the action on his pump with his finger on the trigger and he shot the ground about 2 feet in front of my brother. The guy was taken off the range immediately.

I hate hunting deer with any kind of gun because of things like this, there are too many of these kinds of people still out there. At least with upland game you have a chance with bird load.

So you can call me the hall monitor on this site and I'll be glad to do it if it reminds one guy to check their gun to make sure it's safe. The life you save might just be mine :)

Let's see, put the deer's tongue back in his mouth, wipe off all the blood, hold him up by it's antlers with my gun leaning on the rack and CRAP! That A_ _hole BBB is going to make some dumbass comment about the action on the gun so I better open it,....I hate that guy :)

From: CTCrow
11-May-15

From: Paul
11-May-15
Hay BBB maybe you need to watch 50 shades of gray dvd out last Friday. But I am with you had a friend walking next to me one time and muzzleloader went off 2 feet away from me .

From: bigbuckbob
12-May-15
Too old for movies like that Paul, nothing good will come from it, if you know what I mean. Rather watch Dirty Harry over and over.

Crow - lost for words?

I'd love to hear from others about their experiences and close calls. There's not many 2nd chances when it comes to accidents with firearms.

From: onepin
12-May-15
Ok BBB heres a scary one for you..Few years back was out with a friend gun hunting deer in Thomaston area off RT8-tough area anyone whos been there knows you have about a 100yd climb up the 75 degree hill to get to the flats. Anyway my friend is right behind me going straight up this hill on all fours basically and half way up I turn to see if he's good and yell at him to shoulder his gun as he was climbing with it IN HIS HAND! He says no biggie its not loaded yet. Well u know that unloaded gun almost took off my right leg when he lifted it off the ground. He had his finger on the d@*N trigger. I dont gun hunt with him anymore. Rick

From: bigbuckbob
12-May-15
I know the area and hiking up that ridge with a loaded gun is not smart. There's no way to get off a quick shot so why even carry a loaded gun?? You're going to breathing so hard you won't be able to aim, and that's if you don't fall down the ridge while trying to stand up to shoot.

I took my brother and his friend bird hunting once (operative word is ONCE) and saw the friend was following my springer with the safety off and his finger in the trigger guard. I told him, NOT asked, to put the safety on and keep you finger out of the guard. He tried to tell me there's no way to shoot quickly unless your safety is off. I made him unload his gun and follow me until I shot the first bird, safety on and finger outside the guard.

Can't fix stupid.

From: cuntrytocity
12-May-15
There was actually a story done on that happening a few years ago "SWK".....seems that was happening a lot with that particular brand of Remington.

I bought the "ole lady" a Smith & Wesson .40 for her birthday and took her to High Rock in Naugatuck a few weeks ago, she knows nothing about pistols. Anyway, the range officer who was working the end we were located on, he pretty much stood behind me and her for almost half an hour watching me instruct her and to ensure I was handling the weapon properly. I hadn't been out there since last October and this particular range officer wasn't familiar with me, so I couldn't get aggravated or take offense, it's his job to ensure that I'm safe and those with me are safe. Eventually, he went about his business, but it swelled my chest with pride for him to walk up to me as I'm leaving and tell me job well done......that compliment meant so much to me and I thank my Mother for introducing us to firearms at an early age and I thank the military for honing my safety skills.....

Great subject Bob......

From: nehunter
12-May-15
I own a Rem ML700 (muzzleloader model). I was sighting it in at the range before a trip to Indiana and I closed the action with the safety ON. As soon as it closed it fired into the air.

I sent the gun back to Remington and they fixed the trigger. It worked fine, then one day (3 years later) at the range it did it again. I was told the trigger assy was defective and they replaced it again. I am so lucky it happened at the range and no one got hurt.

From: notme
12-May-15
my first gun was a Remington 12 ga dbl barrel I bought from barkers dept store in 77 . that fall me and my father were hunting pheasant /woodcock in indian valley in trumbull before the yuppies moved in and shut it down . we had just stepped off the fire access road heading towards the swamps with my pops on the side of me . I dropped in 2 rounds , locked the barrels ,BOOM!!! . both barrels went off . I nearly blew his feet off. he beat the crap out of me ...he sent the gun in , Remington said it was a defective trigger assembly and something with the fireing pins ,some company in south America was contracted to make the guns...when I got it back we went in my garage to shoot it( in Bridgeport lol )everything was fine..that fall we went back to indian valley . kicked up a pheasant,BOOM!!!! both barrels went off. yup , he kick the crap out of me..i still have that gun . haven't used it since..

From: bigbuckbob
12-May-15
cuntrytocity

we have safety officers at Bristol F&G rifle range, especially just before the deer/gun season when all of the guys take out their rifles from the previous season and want to sight them in.

The rules posted at the range and strictly enforced, and you will be thrown out if you don't adhere to them.

1. You're not allowed to handle, includes touching without picking up, any gun while people are down range. 2. All guns must be pointed down range at all times, this includes while taking from and going into the case and loading. 3. Actions must ALWAYS be open when gun is not ready to fire. This includes going back into the gun case.

These are just a few and I can tell you that there are guys who don't bother reading the rules and get thrown off the range every year. Give me a bow with a cracked limb any day, at least I won't feel the guilt of shooting someone else.

From: cuntrytocity
12-May-15
Same thing in Naugatuck BBB, they have a yellow line that runs in front of the booths and you can't cross that line while people are down range and they give a safety briefing stating this, but yet, sometimes you'll see people disregard the rules and they respond immediately with shouted commands and a stern voice, which in this case, I can't blame them. I've only observed one guy get thrown off the range, due to his bad attitude.

Like anything else, you have to constantly and consistently put safety measures in the forefront of all your thoughts and actions while handling a firearm. I love guns, but I respect and fear them, which I find it makes me safer when handling a gun. I understand that any mistake while handling a firearm can result in the taking of an innocent life, and that's an accident I don't want to have. I'm very proud of my "other half" she won't carry her new gun until she's become proficient with it. She understands with that firearm, comes great responsibility.

Above all else, I give those range officers respect, even though I know how to handle my guns, I act and treat it as if I'm a first timer and I try to keep that state of mind.....and like "SWK" made a damn good point, I still talk myself through what I'm doing while I'm at the range. Strange as it may sound, it really works. It causes you to focus on the task at hand.

From: Tradspirit
12-May-15
I was bow hunting a local 80 acre farm and was coming out well before dark and out of habit turned on my Flashing red light pinned to my jacket. As I was climbing up a hill to get to a field, I saw the flash and then heard the crack of a rifle shot. I yelled and waived a flash lite around and saw the shooter running down to me. When I caught up with him and proceeded to chew him a new one, I asked him if he saw me coming up into the field? He said " Yeah, I had you in my scope for quite awhile, but never mind that, did you see the deer I shot to your left?" Sure enough he had shot a deer that was no more than 20 yards behind and to the left of me as I topped the hill. I just couldn't believe that he was tracking me with a scoped rifle and dismissed the stupidity of that act! When I went to the farmer and complained about the idiot, he apologized and told me he was a cousin visiting from out of state, gave him a rifle and told him to sit in the backyard and take the first deer that came out...obviously forgetting he had a camouflaged bow hunter on the property. Apparently crop damage permits are often misused by some and can lead to serious consequences. Needless to say I have not hunted there since the incident.

From: bigbuckbob
12-May-15
Trad

wow! That will make you think twice about going in the woods during ANY gun season.

Last bow season I mentioned that I always walk in with my flashlight on just for this reason,....you never know who's out there, 100 yards away with a scope trained on your butt thinking there's a good looking buck :)

From: spike78
12-May-15
Did you guys see the show on Remington about their faulty guns? They knew all about it but didnt want to recall them. After watching that I will be buying other brands.

From: CTCrow
12-May-15

CTCrow's Link
Popular Remington Rifle Plagued By Faulty-Trigger Accidents, Investigation Finds

At least two dozen deaths and more than 100 injuries have been linked to a popular rifle plagued for decades by a critical safety issue: firing without anyone pulling the trigger. The safety problem with the Remington Model 700-series rifle has led Remington Arms Company, Inc. at least twice, in 1979 and 1994, to consider nationwide recalls, according to an investigation by CNBC. The firearm is widely used by everyone from hunters to law enforcement officers. The problem stems from the gun’s “trigger connector,” a tiny piece of metal inside the rifle’s firing mechanism, which can be put out of alignment by debris or even a small jolt. When that happens, the trigger itself can become loose and be set off inadvertently. The defect in the gun has led to more than 75 lawsuits. Remington responded in 2007 with a new trigger system, X-Mark Pro, which was designed without a trigger connector. Still, older models of the 700 — without X-Mark Pro — can be found in stores nationwide. The military also uses rifles with the older trigger system. And the company never did issue those recalls it considered, though it has sold five million Remington 700s. According to CNBC, Remington insists the rifle is safe if firearm safety rules are followed. “Despite any careless reporting to the contrary,” Remington said in a statement, “the gun’s use by millions of Americans has proven it to be a safe, trusted and reliable rifle.”

From: cuntrytocity
13-May-15
Yeah, I saw that special report CTCROW and it was in-depth reporting that provided good evidence......good info you shared.

From: bigbuckbob
13-May-15
it's bad enough we hear story after story about people who get shot with guns that weren't loaded, but to have a gun that fires on it's own,........dangerous.

13-May-15
Exactly why I went with bow hunting. After seeing how people around here behave non-hunting there was no way I was gonna be out in the woods with some of them armed and locked and loaded. That thought has been reinforced by seeing other bow hunters on state land. If I win the lottery some day and can get a nice piece of land I would gun hunt that.. but no way on public land. Kills me that in 'fly over' country we learned all about gun safety from so early on that it was 2nd nature. Now I'm sure many here have similar training.. but too many don't.

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