Realistically, when you buy property is it truly yours to hunt exclusively? I know legal rights are passed to you, but what about hunters who've had access for years, if not generations?
I wouldn't want to come into a small town and say hello by kicking people off the land. That's not the best way to make friends. You could opt to share hunting rights but this too could be frustrating. Imagine someone else (whom you really don't know) killing the dominant buck on your property knowing you shelled out hundreds of thousands to buy the land and will continue to pay taxes on it for years to come? This scenario doesn't sound great either.
What do you think? Does anyone have experience buying property and determining hunting rights? Alternatively, have you been kicked off property by a new owner or worked out a way for you both to hunt it? Thanks in advance for sharing any thoughts, ideas or experiences.
If I had the resources to buy my own property, I never would allow anyone to hunt there except for a few friends and family at my discretion.
The both of them had similar acreage but seemed it was better on my piece. I got trail cam pics of them after I asked to stay off, they thought since I was out of State it was alright to hunt. I asked nicely and granted them permission to track wounded Deer on mine as long as it was OK for me to do the same.
No matter how many times I asked they always trespassed thinking it was their right to push my "off limits" bedding cover. I just sold it to the non hunting neighbor for top dollar, let him worry now.
The line: "I have been hunting here for many years" is a pretty universal one, used by those who really have, and those who are just plain trespassers. When I bought my own land I politely told others that there were new owners now, and that they were no longer allowed there without written permission. The next time I saw them, I told them that this was going to be their last warning, the next time they'd be arrested.
Most stayed off after that, a few did not. I have been told by several cops and wardens that warnings will do nothing, threats either, only actual arrests. After several years, my CT land is pretty much trespasser free, my NY land still has the occasional jerk. One guy on a Quad acted like he was going to get off his machine and fight me, I pointed out that I had a large dog and a loaded shotgun, and I didn't like his chances. I think I also pointed out that he must be a special kind of stupid. He left, cursing me out the entire time.
I now have signs up that point out: "By the time you see these signs your picture has been taken by several, in a series, of hidden Trail Cameras, including some that transmit a wireless image to a secure website. If you leave the way you came in, and do not return, you will not be charged. Your vehicle registration is also recorded. This is your only warning".
It seems to have helped.
Another point: It's very serious potential safety issue. What if you're hunting and someone is just over the next ridge or behind a tree, and you don't know that they are there? I always point out that there are of thousands acres of public land in the area, they don't need to be on my little piece.
Wasn't there something in the early 90's in Milford where the owner of one of the car dealerships there had some acreage in back of his lot and wanted to open it to bow hunting ,I think he was a bow hunter himself,the neighbors in back complained and took him to court saying they used the woods for walking trails for years so that made it their woods..I think pretty much the same thing happened on the DuPont property in Fairfield except they let anybody walk and bowhunt saying they had enough land and wanted people to enjoy nature.until a walker fell and tried to sue then it was shut down to all but the walkers still claimed it was their land cause they walked it for years.
You do need to be mindful about being too obsessed with trespassers, poachers etc.
If you start to be more worried about that than you are about enjoying the property, the property can become more stress than its worth. I found myself being stressed over trespassers and poachers on both parcels my family has owned and I have personally leased. My experience has been at some point you have to take a deep a breath and let some of it go, otherwise the property ceases to be a source of enjoyment and peace and instead becomes a source of stress and worry.
Legal rights are passed to you, period, its your property, get everyone off of it, hunt it, and live the dream.
How you clear it out of trespassers has everything to do with the kind of person you are. You are either a call the cops kind of person, or a take care of business kind of person. Both have their downfalls. Hope it is not as big of a deal as you think it is. Get it done sooner than later and move on.
My parents gained ownership of a two acre parcel through adverse possession. They posted it, filed an affidavit in the land records and started paying taxes on it.
Before that the town didn't know who owned it.
Seems like this is where the culture shock hits.
I grew up where land doesn't need to be posted. If you don't own it, you either get permission or stay on the other side of the line. Almost said "fence", but you don't have to fence it, either. So the idea that anyone would think that having hunted a property before would somehow guarantee those rights into the future just doesn't compute for me.
I guess I'd try to find out during the purchase process whether the owner had been letting anyone hunt there; just so I'd know kind of what to expect. But of course with the rules here being what they are, at least any honest hunter would have to contact you in advance anyway. I would NOT care to be found unwelcome on private land here with a weapon in my hand.
So for anybody who asked, I'd explain politely that the place would not be open to non-family for the foreseeable future. Anybody who poached... I would do my best to find out who they were, and I would do my best to politely let them know that they would not get a second warning.