Sharing Llama lease costs
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From: ColoBull
17-Mar-17
The last time I raised this subject matter (sort of) it met with a certain amount of disdain, so maybe this is a more "reasonable" approach/offer (?) We have hunted an area near Pagosa for over 2 decades and, of course, gained considerable knowledge of the comings & goings of the elk there. Indeed - it is our first choice again this year. Our Llama lease has been secured for this year - 2 weeks, beginning a few days before the (archery) opener. If anyone is interested in committing to sharing the lease costs, we would likewise be willing to share our cumulative knowledge of the area and provide shared access to the pack animals. The actual cost would depend on how many "takers" step up - with even "shares" of roughly $150 per hunter, for no more than 4 total. PM me if you are seriously interested.
From: Buglmin
19-Mar-17
Over the past several years, the elk herd has decreased in numbers. Sorry, but even the F&G guys will tell you just how bad our elk numbers are, but the non resident hunters increase every year. Add to the fact of out early deep snows that caught a lot of elk still high, and they're talking high winter kill this year. That's something you haven't mentioned... Llama lease? So you're still trying to sell information on a over hunted unit? I'd love to know where this llama lease is?
From: ColoBull
19-Mar-17
It's too bad you feel that way. We always have a good time & usually have a fresh harvest elk feast, no matter what the "F&G" ( P&W) says. We don't need a herd, just the usual one or two. & yeah - more ( mostly clueless) non-residents every year. We're going, whether anyone wants to come along or not. We've leased Llamas because we know how hard it is to pack an elk out of where they live. We've secured a lease with the intention of going again. What does that tell you? If you're not willing to share the cost, you're not welcome anyway.
From: Buglmin
20-Mar-17
lol, I live in Pagosa, and hunt there from August through January. Know how hard and tough the hunting was last year, even back in the Wilderness. Your name don't sound familiar to me, can't place it. Where in Colorado do you live? You're bringing in the llamas from up north, and yessir, to sell others your llama lease, you're providing a service and charging for it. According to F&G, that makes you an outfitter.
From: ColoBull
20-Mar-17
Sharing a lease is outfitting? Sharing information is outfitting? Excuse me while I take a laugh break. Not surprisingly, I've never heard of you either. Your profile says you're from New Mexico...
From: yooper89
20-Mar-17
*pulls out popcorn*
From: ColoBull
22-Mar-17
Hmmm... Yeah, the sudden silence is almost deafening. He hunt's "there", not "here"...
'Pass the popcorn?
From: squirrel
22-Mar-17
You are most likely OK if you all sign the original lease as co-lessors. If you sub-lease to your new found buddies it could be interesting, especially if you have an actual paper lease, naming you as the grantor of lease. I lease llamas so know just enough to be (dangerous) and certain of one thing, if you put enough lawyers and dow and forest service guys in a room you will be guilty of SOMETHING! Just make it work and go have fun. And kill one of those endangered elk too.