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Your Tuning Method/s
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Contributors to this thread:
Will 06-Apr-17
Murphy31 06-Apr-17
MA_Bowhunter 07-Apr-17
Eastie778 08-Apr-17
Will 10-Apr-17
Murphy31 10-Apr-17
mdodraw29 11-Apr-17
shawn_in_MA 11-Apr-17
hickstick 11-Apr-17
Will 11-Apr-17
Murphy31 13-Apr-17
shawn_in_MA 17-Apr-17
Will 17-Apr-17
From: Will
06-Apr-17
Hi folks.

I hijacked the hell out of a thread on the CT hunter survey on the CT forum - sorry, get me talking fly fishing and I can go on even longer than I can about bow hunting... Ooph. Any way, I didnt want to hijack the shop thread... so...

What's your tuning method/choice?

I haven't paper tuned with my last few bows. My method has been pretty simple: 1.) Get arrows that, in theory, are the correct stiffness/length for my set up. 2.) Use a centershot tool and arrow shaft level to get the rest's initial position set. 3.) "Sight" in at 10, then 20yds. (I use a slider style sight, so I just move the pin for this.) 4.) Walk back tune. hang paracord in front of the target as a plumb line for true vertical, shoot 4-5 arrows at 20 (where I'm "sighted in") then holding at the same bullseye, I shoot a few arrows at 30, 40, 50, 60. I cant go further without hitting dirt - which sort of defeats the whole arrow tuning thing :). Ill 5.) note where those arrows hit the target relative to the vertical line, adjust my rest to move the arrows impact point so hopefully every arrow is in the same vertical plane (roughly), just getting lower on the target as I go back. 6.) Repeat until it looks like I have, more or less, a vertical line of arrows down the target. 7.) take out a standard BH, and go through some good old fashioned BH tuning - until I have them and FP's hitting as close to the same holes as my skill level allows. So, if they are like 8" apart at 20 yards I doing great... KIDDING! I just want it to look like a tight for me group at the given distance with the BH and FP arrows evenly distributed through out the groupings. 8.) Double check by shooting my FP's out as far as I can (typically shooting well at this point). 9.) Shoot my practice mech heads at various distances just to feel confident. 10.) Enjoy the fruits of my labor when shooting.

Never thought of it as being so many steps. Sort of surprising to see that. But it works great and has removed paper or bareshaft efforts from my tuning approach.

How about you all - how do you do your tuning?

From: Murphy31
06-Apr-17
Set rest to center shot, make sure arrow is level vertically, paper tune, modified french tune, and last step would be to walk back tune to 50. Never had to broadhead tune after I've done it this way because the ones I have tried have been good to go (slick trick stands, muzzy trocars, steel force phat heads, rages, and shwackers).

From: MA_Bowhunter
07-Apr-17
Set bow stats - A2A, brace height, draw stops, etc. to spec. Set rest close to center. Paper tune, which only works if you have the bow specs correct, you have the correct spine, AND you have no interference issues. I often will have significant adjustments (like moving the rest an 1/8" in one direction or the other to correct a bad tear) while paper tuning. Double check with walk back tune to 50. Usually very minor changes at this point. Like Murphy, I have never had to broadhead tune after I've done it this way because the ones I have tried have been good to go (slick tricks).

I'm think folk's frustration with paper tuning usually mean they have one of the fundamentals listed above out of whack.

From: Eastie778
08-Apr-17
You guys are amazing, my brain hurts just reading the thread! After the initial set up I just start at twenty and work my way out from there,adjusting as I go. I think my biggest challenge is keeping my draw consistent, anchor points on, and watching for wrist torque. Great info though guys,very cool!

From: Will
10-Apr-17
Eastie, what you do is basically non labeled walk back tuning - see that, you're a tuning guru and you didnt know it :)

Your comments on anchor and torque. I used to struggle with that stuff. Then a guy on AT convinced me to try this thing called a "NoPeep". I dont know if they are still made, but it's the same idea as the little dots you line up on an IQ bow sight. If you torque the bow just a little, you see it. If your anchor is off, you know.

It allowed me to ditch the peep sight and makes pre shot on a deer or target super easy, draw, line up the dots, pin on target, squeeze.

Does it really work? About 6 years ago (or more now) I sold a bow to a buddy. I'm close to 6 feet, he's 6'5" with arms like a condor. He test shot the bow with my 29.5" draw that works for me, and his "anchor" was like 3" in front of his face. He just lined up the dots on the no peep, put the pin on the bull and nailed it - over and over again.

I liked it prior to that, I've been even more convinced since.

From: Murphy31
10-Apr-17
Not many tuners on here

From: mdodraw29
11-Apr-17
I like to paper tune, bare shaft. I have found that sometimes it can drive you nuts when you're trying to help a friend and the spine is wrong. I also like the walk back tune but as these bows get faster there isn't much /enough drop in the arrow from close distances. Walk back is you hang a string and shoot a the same spot on the target, first shot at 5 yards, second at 10 , third at 15, and so on. As you aim at the same spot the the further back you go the lower your shot will be. If your shot consistently walks out further to the left or right...

From: shawn_in_MA
11-Apr-17
There's about a million different ways to tune a bow. Find one that makes sense to you and works for you and stick with it. Indoors I will set set timing, centershot down the middle and nock height and shoot through paper. Minor rest adjustments are ok...if I need more then I will shim the cams. Outdoors I will do the above but then add in a walkbalk tune as well to fine tune centershot. I only do a little bit of bareshaft tuning and don't recommend it to many people. You really have to have consistent form (grip, no facial pressure etc.) to get consistent results. If I do run bareshafts I'm only looking to get same POI, not as worried about the angle the shaft went into the target.

From: hickstick
11-Apr-17
hmmm, something must be wrong with my bow will...my 'rest' doesn't adjust....and try as I might I can't see any pin sites? lol

I bareshaft my carbons on my trad bows. only papertuned once and it was an exercise in frustration for me.

From: Will
11-Apr-17
Hick - you are your 'rest' :)

Shawn, you mention shimming the cams. I've heard of that, and years ago, Ben B (I think you guys are buddies - if I have my "shawn's" right ha ha ha) did some cool cable twisting stuff to a bowtech Allegiance (binary system) I had at the time. I've not done it since because 1.) I dont have a press and 2.) havent needed too on the 2 binary's I've had since. But it was interesting and worked. Is shimming sort of like that, or are you literally changing where the cam tracks relative to the limb's center? Or is it a different name for yolk tunning?

From: Murphy31
13-Apr-17
You have to shim the cams on bows that don't have yokes if they are out of whack. Elites, Obsession. Sometimes you'll have to do it on bows with floating yokes.

From: shawn_in_MA
17-Apr-17
Yes Will same Shawn. The shimming I am talking about is literally moving spacers inside the limb tips to change where/how the cam tracks

From: Will
17-Apr-17
Cool Shawn! So, on yolked bows, is this pretty mich standard? If so, to bad the companies cant improve the factoey set up a smidge...

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