Summit Treestands
blue tongue?
West Virginia
Contributors to this thread:
sportoutfitter 16-Sep-17
babysaph 16-Sep-17
sundaynwv 18-Sep-17
sportoutfitter 18-Sep-17
sportoutfitter 18-Sep-17
sundaynwv 18-Sep-17
gobbler 18-Sep-17
sundaynwv 19-Sep-17
Rutbuster 19-Sep-17
sportoutfitter 19-Sep-17
Rutbuster 19-Sep-17
sundaynwv 19-Sep-17
Rutbuster 19-Sep-17
hookman 19-Sep-17
sportoutfitter 20-Sep-17
sportoutfitter 26-Sep-17
WV Mountaineer 26-Sep-17
pawpaw 27-Sep-17
wv_bowhunter 27-Sep-17
sportoutfitter 27-Sep-17
gobbler 27-Sep-17
sportoutfitter 27-Sep-17
gobbler 27-Sep-17
sportoutfitter 27-Sep-17
gobbler 27-Sep-17
Babysaph 27-Sep-17
sportoutfitter 07-Oct-17
gobbler 07-Oct-17
babysaph 07-Oct-17
Jim Casto Jr 07-Oct-17
sportoutfitter 07-Oct-17
gobbler 07-Oct-17
gobbler 07-Oct-17
sportoutfitter 07-Oct-17
gobbler 07-Oct-17
sportoutfitter 07-Oct-17
gobbler 07-Oct-17
sportoutfitter 07-Oct-17
Babysaph 08-Oct-17
WV Mountaineer 03-Nov-17
gobbler 03-Nov-17
gobbler 03-Nov-17
WV Mountaineer 03-Nov-17
gobbler 03-Nov-17
sportoutfitter 03-Nov-17
WV Mountaineer 04-Nov-17
16-Sep-17
Any of you guys seen any signs in your area? I'm in Mingo Co. and am hearing scary news. They have confirmed cases in Pike Co. Ky. ( borders our co.). Thick smell of death when traveling locally but haven't found any carcasses. Wondering what you guys are seeing?

From: babysaph
16-Sep-17
I hear those rumors every year. I hope not

From: sundaynwv
18-Sep-17
What is the wvdnr saying about it? What counties have confirmed cases?

18-Sep-17

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Haven't talked to any DNR guys down here. A Google search article talked about 4 counties, Gilmer, Hampshire, Hardy, and Logan, (hardest hit with about 40 cases) but it wasn't clear when those were found. I have a project going on that has kept me out of the woods more than usual this time of year, so I can't speak of first hand knowledge. I do know that Eastern KY has been hit hard this year. Pike Co Ky and Mingo Co are separated by a common water source so it would be remiss to think the infected flies aren't on both banks of the river. Not trying to push any rumors just wondering what you all are seeing. Edit: map didn't show up to good. Pike county (large, most eastern) has nearly 500 cases

18-Sep-17

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I think this is better

From: sundaynwv
18-Sep-17
Is that 458 in one county? What county in WV is that adjacent to?

From: gobbler
18-Sep-17
Pike is adjacent to Mingo.

From: sundaynwv
19-Sep-17
Mingo only had 386 deer taken last year. Could be a issue for bow only counties.

From: Rutbuster
19-Sep-17
Maybe nobody uses the electronic checking system.

19-Sep-17
Or maybe it's quality over quantity, Rut.

From: Rutbuster
19-Sep-17
I'm sure that is no one thing. A combination of numerous things contribute to the low numbers.

From: sundaynwv
19-Sep-17
If deer numbers are low in Mingo County, then an outbreak of EHD can decimate the herd they have.

From: Rutbuster
19-Sep-17
I would agree.

From: hookman
19-Sep-17
I would say rutbuster is pretty close about electronic system not being used. Also coyotes has got to be hard on deer.

20-Sep-17
That's my worry Sunday. We don't have the numbers here that a lot of the northern counties have to begin with. That's a contributing factor in the lower numbers, along with hunting here is a little different than most of the rest of the state. Deep valleys and steep terrain are the biggest factor in my opinion. It's a whole lot harder for the "weekend hunter" to even see a deer much less tag one out. I don't believe that the electronic check in skews the numbers here differently than the rest of the state. My boy and I rode the creek through our property yesterday and didn't find anything, yet smells like your standing over a rotting carcass all over our county. Somethings up. Not seeing any birds circling either. Anybody know if they can distinguish tainted meat or does it even matter? Probably a dumb question, seems they'll eat anything :)

26-Sep-17
We definitely have an EHD outbreak in Mingo Co. Multiple deer being found. Unfortunately not a rumor this time around Babysaph. I sure wish it was!

26-Sep-17
How bad is it?

From: pawpaw
27-Sep-17
I haven't saw any dead deer but a friend of mine in Lincoln county says there are several you can see from the road around where he lives.

From: wv_bowhunter
27-Sep-17
What part of Lincoln County, Pawpaw?

I am in North Central, near Hamlin and luckily we haven't noticed any here close to home as of yet.

27-Sep-17
It's pretty bad Justin, about 14 found on the old Millers Creek Mining property that boarder mine. Heard a huge 12 pt with a drop was found about a mile away. There's pics of that one. I'll see if I can get it and I'll post it. I saw troopers checking out a small 6 point between the road and the creek day before yesterday. I'm sick to know how this will affect our herd. We just don't have the numbers down here that the central and northern counties have to begin with.

From: gobbler
27-Sep-17
This outbreak is EHD which is strain 2. Blue tongue which affected the eastern panhandle last year is strain 3. All the tests coming back this year are strain 2. Everyone needs to remember that before you pick up a buck skull you need to contact a NRPO and get a pickup tag to make it legal. If someone is caught with a pickup skull with rack without a tag you can get in trouble. If it's a big rack the enhanced penalties might be attached and someone could be looking at a couple thousand dollar fine for possessing a rack without getting a tag first. Just FYI

27-Sep-17
Sorry for the misinformation on calling it blue tongue guys. Thanks gobbler. I just know we have a substantial EHD outbreak here. I can't speak for what's happened with carcasses/caps and horns that people are finding. I do know that Millers Creek is one of a FEW areas that's regularly patrolled by wardens. Or should I say warden, as we are definitely undermanned in such a large county. Hard to get much info from them either.

From: gobbler
27-Sep-17
No problem, I understand. I was just taking it as a chance to make a public service announcement. LOL

I hate that ya'll are loosing that many deer. You don't have a surplus to lose.

Good luck and hope for a killing frost soon!

27-Sep-17
Me too gobbler. I went and researched a little after I read your post. I guess people mistake it because the lack of oxygen with EHD can sometimes result in a "blue tongue". Learn something everyday. I don't hunt for racks, although I wouldn't pass up a nice one, but we eat a lot of meat. Is it accurate that after a few frosts were alright? I know they say it won't pass to humans, but I'm not eating a sick deer no matter who says it's safe.

From: gobbler
27-Sep-17
A good frost will kill the midges that transmit the disease. It won't help any deer that has already been infected. It just helps assure that no more deer will get infected. You are right that they say it can't be transmitted to humans but at the same time it is recommended than any deer that appears to be sick not be consumed. EHD doesn't kill every deer it affects. A deer that was infected but survived may have residual hoof deformities. One year my brother shot a buck in Maryland while we were hunting and it had obvious hoof deformities. We were pretty sure he survived the infection and was in good health. It was early in the rut and he was fat and healthy chasing a doe when he killed it.

From: Babysaph
27-Sep-17
I think the DNR dumped off those midges when they dropped the rattlesnakes and coyotes. LOL. Jus kidding but I hate to see deer killed this way.

07-Oct-17
What about our new elk herd Gobbler? Are they susceptible to the EHD virus? I would imagine that would be devastating for such a small herd at this point.

From: gobbler
07-Oct-17

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Elk can be bitten and get the virus but it's rare for it to have any significant effect on them like it does to deer. Our elk are doing ok. My wife took this picture yesterday morning.

From: babysaph
07-Oct-17
I have blue tongue after climbing those Pendleton county mountains in the heat all weekend

From: Jim Casto Jr
07-Oct-17
Oh my... that's a tremendous bull! Looks like a clean 7 x 7.

07-Oct-17

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That's a nice bull Gobbler. These pics were from a couple weeks ago. I can't wait to trade cameras for bows

From: gobbler
07-Oct-17
It's an 8x7

From: gobbler
07-Oct-17

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07-Oct-17
Sure is nice to see them in our neck of the woods. Are you from down in the southern counties?

From: gobbler
07-Oct-17
I'm originally from a little place called Matoaka in Mercer county. It's close to WY county border.

07-Oct-17
I know Matoaka. I played ball at Matewan and we traveled on an overnight to play Matoaka the first night and Spanishburg the next night. Spanishburg had a tiny gym and some ROWDY fans :) Good times!!!

From: gobbler
07-Oct-17
I grew up there in 60s and early 70s. It was a thriving little town then , now it's a run down ghost town. Sad!

07-Oct-17
Kinda the way Matewan is now

From: Babysaph
08-Oct-17
Nice pics of elk, it's nice to have them here.

03-Nov-17

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My brother n laws is a boss on a strip. They found this deer. DNR said EHD. 191 and change. Jim said it’s bad. Lots of dead deer

From: gobbler
03-Nov-17
That’s officer Rockel from Mingo county. Was it in Mingo?

That’s a shame

From: gobbler
03-Nov-17
I talked to officer Rockel. This was a poached Buck from last year, not an EHD death.

03-Nov-17
Well. it looks like I'll have to give my brother in law a hard time for lying to me. That makes me now wander if he sent that to deter me from hunting down there or, if they were truly finding dead deer. HMMM?

From: gobbler
03-Nov-17
Officer Rockel said they had found quite a few dead bucks but nothing like that one. This one was poached with a rifle on Mingo/Wayne county border in early Nov. last year.

03-Nov-17
Your right Gobbler, that is Rockel in Mingo Co. There was a monster with a drop found about a mile or so away. I heard it was a 12 point. I thought that was it also. I wish the bro in law was pulling your chain Justin. We've been hit hard in Mingo. Bunch of carcasses found on Cotiga land that boarders mine. :(

04-Nov-17
I hate to hear that the deer was poached and, I hate to hear about the EHD. I have had a couple loggers tell me they have found dead deer in the Gilbert and, Gary area of Logan and McDowell Counties. They said blue tongue but, I assumed they meant EHD. When Jim sent me that pic with the story it was found dead, killed by "blue tongue", I just assumed that was further confirmation. Both are terrible losses in my opinion. However, I'd love for the poaching offense for a deer like that be a felony that restricted firearms ownership and hunting privileges forever. It won't stop all of it but, it would maybe deter some of it. What a shame for a deer like that to be killed illegally. God Bless men

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