Staten Island Lyme Disease up 362%
Connecticut
Here's one that should put us over the top of the MA forum. What's changed on Staten Island that Lyme disease cases are up 362% since 2010?
And....... go.
WB helped spreading it, lol.
Don't forget to mention that doctors are much more aware of lyme and how to detect it than they were 7 years ago Doc! You educated us about that fact a couple of thousands posts ago.
And if lyme is increasing, why aren't they killing the deer that are spreading this horrible disease so to protect the children? We must protect the children. Just ask any liberal dem, they'll tell you that. I guess protecting bambi is higher on their list??? Can't figure out liberals these days. Trump has their heads spinning.
Bob, he has everyone's head spinning ;) (Said the birkenstock and alpaca sock wearing guy, feel the Bern baby ;))
My sense is that a big part is Bob's point - it's [lyme] actually being dx'd now, while in 2010, it may have or may not have been. There also was that growing deer population... And while I may be wrong, I suspect a very healthy mouse population coupled with increasing temperatures (yep, the big GW) helped the evil little creatures population boom like crazy.
Deer are certainly players, but, part of the bigger system at play (ok, that's my opinion from reading "these" threads, observation, listening to "experts" etc).
That all said, didnt the MVC with deer numbers drop massively according to some early reports. Thought the Mayor said that the deer sterilization some how magically lead to reduced MVC's... Maybe the stress of sterilization killed a ton of deer. Dr. Williams, am I remembering you said one time that in the last new generation of ticks after deer numbers are reduced, the beast's are looking for some new hosts and may find us more often? So perhaps a bunch of deer died and the ticks are looking for chow elsewhere?
Interesting stuff to do mental gymnastics with.
And starting at 34..... Out of how many people on that Island???
I'm not saying that they don't Got Issues, but I I were to find 4X as much money in my yard today as I found yesterday....
I'd be a whole lot happier if (yesterday) I had found more than a nickel.
GF - ok, you lost me on that one. I've got a quarter if that's what you need. :) I think you're saying more people on the island in 2017 than in 2010??? Definitely a factor to consider.
I find it interesting that the article states that they are finding lyme disease in the cities now, you know, where no deer exist. The cement jungle. They mention that in the past it was isolated to suburbs, and yes you can say the deer impact those numbers. But the cities? So do the ticks find other hosts, like cats, rats, dogs, raccoons, etc in the absence of deer? Sounds like to me. Note to WB - start a program for sharpshooters to reduce the dog, cat, rat, raccoon, etc population via baiting and high powered rifles at night at a cost of millions of dollars.
I wish the bubonic infestes rats would finally kill off the city....it amazes me on how that crap hole wants to dictate their views to the country/world...i now return you to your regulary scheduled program
A doc thread in season. This is a unicorn.
Still, Lyme disease rate on Staten Island is up 362%. Cannot argue that. Doubtful that anything has changed in clinical diagnoses since 2010. I’m sure DeBlasio opted for non-lethal over lethal for political purposes. Mouse populations follow a typical boom and bust cycle. This increase is specific to increased deer abundance on Staten Island. Will is right the Mayor initially said that DVCs were down like 80% or something, when in reality, it was more like 30% at the time, and that was corrected. Obviously for political gain to support his management decision. And yes also to Will that after a herd is reduced, the same amount of ticks are still out there, so in the absence of those large-bodied animals, you will see a perceived increase in ticks as they are desperately trying to find other hosts. But in this case, the deer population has exploded on SI and with that comes increasing tick abundances. And Toonces, we need to beat the MA forum, so I thought I’d chime in. Wait, what? It's unicorn season in CT?
Unicorns are easier to catch than the lies from wb..just follow the rainbow , they fart out skittles...
Dam it not me! Im sitting on the can reading your post and you made look in the bowl because I had Skittles last night, but I just see Tootsie rolls
"In 2010, 34 cases of Lyme disease were reported on Staten Island, while 123 cases were reported in 2016, according to statistics from the Health Department. Data from 2017 is not yet available."
Population of SI in 2010 = 469,645. 34 of 469,645 = 0.0072395% of SI population got Lyme Disease in 2010.
Population of SI in 2016 = 468,730. 123 of 468,730 = 0.0262411% of SI population got Lyme Disease in 2016.
The CDC tracks LD cases by the number per 100,000 population to standardize numbers based on what proportion of the people are affected. So in the SI case, in 2010 (according these data presented by Ace), there were 7.2 cases of LD/100,000 (34 cases/469,645 people = 0.0000723951 cases/person * 100,000 people = 7.2 cases/100,000 people). Then in 2016, it was 26.2 cases/100,000 people (123 cases/468,730 people = 0.000262411 cases/person * 100,000 people = 26.2 cases/100,000 people). So as you can see, LD cases on SI increased, while the population decreased from 2010 to 2016. SI Live screwed up the math anyway cause 34 to 123 cases is not a 362% increase but rather a 262% increase. (34 + 34 = 68 =100% increase, 68 + 34 = 102 = 200% increase, 102 + 34 = 136 cases, which would be a 300% increase which exceeds the 123). But if we look at the comparison/100,000 population in 2010 it was 7.2 and in 2016, it was 26.2. That is actually 3.64 times as many cases/100,000 from 2010 to 2016 or a 264% increase.
For comparison, in Redding in 2016, there were only 9,158 people and only 9 probable cases of LD (http://www.ct.gov/dph/lib/dph/infectious_diseases/lyme/stats/ctldstats_2016.pdf). But, if we extrapolate those cases, it results in 98.3 LD cases/100,000. (9 LD cases/9,158 people = 0.000982747 cases/person * 100,000 people = 98.3 cases/100,000.) So comparatively, while there were WAY fewer cases in Redding in 2016, there are also fewer people which increases the infection rate dramatically. So Ace is right that a smaller proportion of the population on SI was afflicted than say in Redding, but that is because cases are washed out by a large population of people. That said, LD cases still were 3.62 times higher in 2016 than 2010, or a 262% increase in cases. The rate increase is what epidemiologists keep an eye on.
WB lies like there are a crap load of deer in both Fairfield County and Staten Island?
