Summit Treestands
Which is easier?
Colorado
Contributors to this thread:
Ucsdryder 23-Oct-17
Treeline 24-Oct-17
fubar racin 24-Oct-17
Glunt@work 24-Oct-17
Jaquomo 24-Oct-17
Ucsdryder 24-Oct-17
Treeline 24-Oct-17
Vids 27-Oct-17
Seahorse 27-Oct-17
Jaquomo 27-Oct-17
bowyer45 11-Nov-17
Ucsdryder 11-Nov-17
Glunt@work 11-Nov-17
tradi-doerr 11-Nov-17
cnelk 11-Nov-17
Ucsdryder 12-Nov-17
From: Ucsdryder
23-Oct-17
I’ve been on 4 deer hunts. I’m 1 for 4, killing a meat buck. I’ve barely even seen any deer. Heck, I can’t even fill a doe tag!!!!

I’ve been on 5 elk hunts. I’m 3 for 5 and have been in range of elk on the other 2.

Are elk easier to find and kill than deer or am I just lucky? I even find elk on deer hunts, but for the life of me can’t find any decent bucks.

I did find some bucks in archery elk season and will be after them with rifle 3rd season this year, who knows if they’ll still be around 2 months later.

From: Treeline
24-Oct-17
It may be the type of country you are looking for deer in. I can generally find bucks very quickly in the summer until they strip out about anywhere in western Colorado. With a little time I can usually find a few really nice ones. What kind of optics do you have?

From: fubar racin
24-Oct-17
Iv had deer hunts that were shooting fish in a barrel never really seen that with elk, and only ever didnt fill a deer tag once in my life lots of years ate elk tag soup though.

From: Glunt@work
24-Oct-17
When I was a kid, there was a decent muley population basically everywhere we elk hunted. We have 150K - 200K less deer now.

From: Jaquomo
24-Oct-17
What Glunt said. In the '70s there were deer all over in our elk area, some huge bucks. Now you can go years between seeing a buck during September.

From: Ucsdryder
24-Oct-17
Which makes you wonder why they have so many doe tags?

From: Treeline
24-Oct-17
$$$$$$$$$ oh, and more $$$$$$$$$

From: Vids
27-Oct-17
I've hunted here 13 years and still haven't shot a mule deer. Admittedly, I have passed on a number of them that weren't big but apparently I suck pretty bad at stalking big ones! I've shot 3 elk in that same time frame (rifle). In general I'm very good at locating the species I don't have a tag for....

From: Seahorse
27-Oct-17
My guess is that CP&W is trying to cut down on the spread of CWD among mule deer, more than make $. Elk management is another story.

From: Jaquomo
27-Oct-17
UCSD, I discussed this with CPW biologists. Its all about maintaining the preferred buck-doe ratio. Bucks are more susceptible to CWD and EHD and are hunted too. So if the preferred ratio is, say, 5:1 then they need to kill off more does than the estimated buck mortality, but also taking into consideration fawn mortality.

From: bowyer45
11-Nov-17
Does any knowledgeable elk hunter feel bull elk are harder to hunt that a mature mulie? I know I sure don't. In the mountains anyway.

From: Ucsdryder
11-Nov-17
Notch another one. 3rd seaoson rifle deer. Deer 1, me 0. And of course I could have killed elk. It’s amazing the number of deer racks I see in the back of pickup trucks.

From: Glunt@work
11-Nov-17
Someone new to muley populations could look at the CPW herd objectives, the current population and available tags and think things look ok.

I always assumed herd objectives were primarily driven by habitat carrying capacity. Our muley situation opened my eyes. In 1969 the harvest was 147,000 deer. 2016 was under 37,000.

"The good old days" is an over used saying but for those that didn't get to see Colorado's muley population in it's prime, it was pretty amazing. I caught the tail end of it and took it for granted.

From: tradi-doerr
11-Nov-17
Right there with Lou & Don, even in the early to mid 1980's Muledeer numbers were good, Ken Caryl Valley was the largest wintering/breeding grounds for Muledeer on the front range, not anymore! "The Good Old Days" are gone for now, probably for ever. I remember going with my Dad in early seventy's when he could get a sportsman's license, deer/elk/bear/mnt. lion all on one tag, you rarely seen elk, but tons of deer. And you rarely seen whitetail deer on the plains or river bottoms. Miss the old days, but with the growing human population in Colorado things are going to change even more, afraid not for the better either.

From: cnelk
11-Nov-17
@uscdryder

Wanna shoot a deer? Ill give you some great 3rd season deer intel in trade for the location of the elk you saw :)

From: Ucsdryder
12-Nov-17

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Bonus points if you can see my car. Double points since the picture is sideways!
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Bonus points if you can see my car. Double points since the picture is sideways!
Brad I’ll gladly share. But you are part of the “hunt smarter, not harder” group. Unfortunately, I’m dumb too dumb to be part of that group and have come to the conclusion that the only way I can kill something is to almost kill my self first!!!

I found an almost land locked section of BLM that just crossed a main road. That was the way into it!

On a positive note I didn’t see another person or person track up there!

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