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Contributors to this thread:
Bloodtrail 13-Nov-17
CaptMike 13-Nov-17
Missouribreaks 13-Nov-17
MF 13-Nov-17
Crusader dad 13-Nov-17
Crusader dad 13-Nov-17
LesWelch 13-Nov-17
Pasquinell 13-Nov-17
Franklin 13-Nov-17
Duke 13-Nov-17
Tweed 13-Nov-17
Jeffd 13-Nov-17
Tweed 13-Nov-17
northbound 13-Nov-17
Fivers 13-Nov-17
Missouribreaks 13-Nov-17
Bloodtrail 13-Nov-17
Tweed 13-Nov-17
Fivers 14-Nov-17
Crusader dad 14-Nov-17
Crusader dad 14-Nov-17
MF 14-Nov-17
Pete-pec 15-Nov-17
Live2hunt 15-Nov-17
Hoot 15-Nov-17
CaptMike 15-Nov-17
From: Bloodtrail
13-Nov-17
Recently I cam across a site entitled "Wisconsin Outdoorsman" and was immediately attracted to it and the postings of family and bucks & does. Pretty neat - I thought!

As I continued researching the site, I began to realize that we as Wisconsin hunters are in a bit of a pickle. There are many people out there (and I guess I was unaware) that when it comes to hunting can be immature, fool hearted and have the nuclear potential to damage this sport in ways they have little clue. They appear to make up a fairly good portion of "hunters" and it concerns me.

Someone posted a picture of a party driving down the street with a nice buck attached to a trailer hitch gambrel skinning device of a small Neon type vehicle. This is how those choose to bring home their deer apparently. Comments flooded in about it's the "redneck way" and "Yee Ha" and so on and so forth. People posting "LOL"...

Am I too sensitive and thin skinned because I found nothing funny about it.

I found it disrespectful to the animal and damaging to the image of the WI hunter.

I posted that we need to be concerned of our "image" as hunters and be wary of the "anti-hunter" force that even as we speak threatens our existence..I tried to emphasis that this is something that needs to be taken seriously by us. Many people are "fence sitters" on "Is hunting and are hunters good responsible " issue(s). These folks have heard stories either way and don't really have an opinion until they see something stupid like this along with foolish posts supporting it.

"Fence sitters" can go either way. they don't really have opinion on hunting ...until they see crap like this. So the next time I knock on the door to ask permission - I become one of those idiots in their minds. People can be very judgmental, as you could have been 550 miles away at the time of this "unfortunate" incident but you are now guilty by "association" - your a hunter and this is the way ALL hunters act. Not true - but don't argue with a landowner.

As sportsman we need to show respect for the animal we pursue in everyway! My niece shot a huge 10 point at 15. Later I saw that she had placed Huge sunglasses and a hat on it, once taxidermy was done . Uncle Pat "schooled" her and it proudly sits in her Mother's living room for everyone to enjoy.

We need to be vigilant and these days...people are watching us. Their making decisions. We cannot afford to act the "fool" in public.

I am definitely spoiled with the caliber of sportsmen and sportswomen that grace the pages of this site. Spoiled in the sense that I look to many here - almost everyone of you, as the "upper crust" of sportsman and ladies of the sport.

The caliber of hunters that grace these pages are definitely a "cut above" in many ways!

Thank you for being safe and responsible individuals and one's that show respect and dignity for the hunt and the game we pursue. You are so refreshing to an old man with many "old" ways.

From: CaptMike
13-Nov-17
I agree. The majority of people are not hunters and are not anti hunters. Presenting ourselves in a respectful manner can only benefit us all.

13-Nov-17
I agree Captain and have been stating that for years.

It is especially important now that hunting is a vanishing rural culture, mostly now for sport and horn porn. Voters do not sympathize with horn hunting and orgasmic fist pumping to celebrate an injury or death. A real turn off actually, even to many hunters.

From: MF
13-Nov-17
Is that site affiliated with Cabela's?

From: Crusader dad
13-Nov-17
BT, I saw the image you're referring to. That car is barely big enough to fit hunting gear inside let alone that buck. How do you propose they transport that deer home? I don't think it looks any worse than I would driving home with one on top of my Santa Fe and I proudly do that. I don't think that photo is enough to change the mind of the fence sitters and I give that guy a thumbs up for his ingenuity.

From: Crusader dad
13-Nov-17

Crusader dad's embedded Photo
Crusader dad's embedded Photo
Here's the pic BT is referring to.

From: LesWelch
13-Nov-17
No, sorry that picture is Bullshit. What a moron.

From: Pasquinell
13-Nov-17
WOW... What a freaking idiot.

From: Franklin
13-Nov-17
If he had the hitch receiver to install that device then he could of used the horizontal carrier that many folks use. If he was going down the street from his hunting spot to home in the backwoods it would be fine I guess...but he`s trucking down the Interstate.

From: Duke
13-Nov-17
Agree, not the image that any of us need associated with the hunting community. People have choices that they make that are not always popular among the general populous or agreed upon, but to throw it into everyone's face in a disrespectful manner does absolutely nothing positive.

I will say that I am not always all about being "PC", but this doesn't even get close to that line... It is just dumb at several levels.

From: Tweed
13-Nov-17
Um...Isn't Lyndon Station in the back woods though?

From: Jeffd
13-Nov-17
Is that pole going over the roof for the flux capacitor??

From: Tweed
13-Nov-17

Tweed's embedded Photo
Tweed's embedded Photo
Found another photo of it else where on the interwebs.

From: northbound
13-Nov-17
I'm saving that pic for next time DOT decides to check my truck ladder rack for torn straps, and makes sure my windshield washer is working correctly. I really don't see it making hunters look bad, gut piles near multi use trail heads have always been the thing that I think 'fence sitter' type really disapprove of. This guy prob just confuses people, you'd expect to see a bernie bumper sticker on a purple neon-certainly not that creation. Soon they'll be printing ' not for highway use' on those Deer leg gambrel's and now we'll all know why

From: Fivers
13-Nov-17
I'm guessing that they didn't make it all the way home if there were too many more corners like that....check out the lean on the upright pole, that has to be a lot of torque on the receiver and hitching point. I'm also guessing the dents on BOTH rear fenders were not there before the trip, there is a lot of stress at those points as well.

What State are the plates from? They don't look like WI to me.

13-Nov-17
I would not focus too much on this one picture. The OP was pointing out a much larger concern of which this image is just one very small example. I understand what Bloodtrail is portraying and agree with him completely.

From: Bloodtrail
13-Nov-17
Thanks for the input fella's.

My major concern is not so much what thuis moroon did with transporting the deer. Maybe a 100 people of so saw that.

My issue is with the idiot tht thought this was funny and posted it to social media for the world to see. It was posted on a hunting forum and the hillbilly comments were shocking as people applauded this.

We have to wake up! Well not us, we get it, but the clowns that post this and subsequently support it with their off the wall banter.

Our sport is in danger as was are in the minority - more people do not hunt than do....and our numbers are shrinking every year that goes by! What is it, like 70%..80% of all the land in WI is privately owned? Do you and I want to be rejected at the doorstep of a landowner because of some stupid shit some idiot did when out in public. People can be judgmental and group us all as one.

To top this off, another idiot thought it would be a good idea to post on social media a trail cam picture of a doe that was shot in the shoulder. The arrow dragging along. Matted blood covered the deer's side as well.

What the hell?

What is the point? Do we want to provide the "Humane Society of America" and "PETA" with more fodder for their slide shows against hunting?

I wonder how long we'll be around and how long my kids will hunt. So sad.....

From: Tweed
13-Nov-17
BT...... Yup! It's that kind of crap with the psuedo hill Billy crap that will burn us all.

This is Wisconsin...not east Kentucky.

I like to think many are made of more stoic genes that don't need to do silly things for attention and acceptance.

From: Fivers
14-Nov-17
As bad as you think the deer hunters are, you should try to be an upstanding houndsman!! There is a huge percentage of them that shoot themselves in the foot every time they talk....and they don't know any better. I'm just lucky/happy that I'm able to do the hound thing in an area that has a few solid groups of well behaved and respected houndsmen. Even though the WBHA has a huge coffer of money and strong lobbyists, I don't see a very long future for some types of hound hunting in WI....too many "hillbilly" types have joined the ranks over the past 5-8 years that will eventually be the death of it. I think that there will always be room for coyote hunting in many areas, mainly for predator control for the dedicated deer hunters, and coon hunting to help the farmers with crop damage, but I think bear is dying a slow death right now and will go fast in a couple of years. Way too many complaints of trespass and the groups not respecting the private property owners.

So the deer hunters do get crazy and obnoxious, but it is for basically one week and many of them hunt on their own property....other types of hunting seem to come across much more brazen and bold that rub people the wrong way more than a few loudmouths in November....come mid December, you won't hear from them for another 11 months.

From: Crusader dad
14-Nov-17

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Good point Missouri. I was thinking about the photo and not the big picture. BT is spot on that we as a group are spoiled. I follow wi bowhunters on Facebook and some of the posts on there make me sick. If I were on the fence, reading through that groups posts would turn me into an anti for sure. It has already turned me even further against crossbowers. Here is just one of today's posts that shed a bad light on hunters. This crossbower is very proud of his shot.

From: Crusader dad
14-Nov-17
Since joining that group I've realized that there are two types of internet hunters. Facebook hunters and bowsiters. I'd much rather be known as a Bowsiter. The facebookers definitely give hunters a bad look.

From: MF
14-Nov-17

MF's Link
Here's a video of it I just seen on FB

From: Pete-pec
15-Nov-17

Pete-pec's embedded Photo
Pete-pec's embedded Photo
Here's another one from facebook. It makes you say: What were you thinking?

The shot shows a poor placement. I get it, it happens, but why promote it through a deer mount?

From: Live2hunt
15-Nov-17
I would never do a mount like that for someone, very poor taste, very disrespectful.

From: Hoot
15-Nov-17
Live2hunt - My thoughts exactly!

From: CaptMike
15-Nov-17
A ridiculously immature way to mount an animal..

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