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Michigan DNR Reports CWD Increases to 30
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Contributors to this thread:
flounder 06-Dec-17
Burly 06-Dec-17
Annony Mouse 06-Dec-17
jerrynocam 07-Dec-17
BIG BEAR 07-Dec-17
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buckhammer 07-Dec-17
BIG BEAR 07-Dec-17
JL 07-Dec-17
Missouribreaks 08-Dec-17
JL 08-Dec-17
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happygolucky 08-Dec-17
BIG BEAR 08-Dec-17
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jerrynocam 08-Dec-17
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JL 09-Dec-17
happygolucky 09-Dec-17
jerrynocam 09-Dec-17
ground hunter 09-Dec-17
BIG BEAR 09-Dec-17
JL 09-Dec-17
JL 09-Dec-17
Annony Mouse 11-Dec-17
JL 11-Dec-17
ground hunter 12-Dec-17
JL 12-Dec-17
Anony Mouse 12-Dec-17
JL 16-Dec-17
Burly 22-Dec-17
From: flounder
06-Dec-17

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WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 06, 2017 Michigan DNR CWD INCREASES TO TOTAL 30 CASES TO DATE http://chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2017/12/michigan-dnr-cwd-increases-to-total-30.html

From: Burly
06-Dec-17
Nice.

From: Annony Mouse
06-Dec-17
Additional deer suspected to be positive for chronic wasting disease identified throughout the firearm season 30 deer from Clinton, Ingham, Kent and Montcalm counties have been identified either as CWD positive or CWD suspect since 2015

With the firearm deer season complete, the Michigan Department of Natural Resources has now identified a total of 30 free-ranging white-tailed deer that are confirmed or suspected to have chronic wasting disease. Several thousand additional samples are awaiting testing by Michigan State University, so numbers for this deer season could still change.

Since May 2015 when the first CWD deer was found, the DNR has tested approximately 23,000 deer. Of those tested, 30 cases of CWD have been suspected or confirmed in deer from Clinton, Ingham, Kent and Montcalm counties. “CWD suspect” means that the deer tested positive on an initial screening test, but has not yet been confirmed through additional testing. It is very rare that a CWD suspect will not be confirmed as a CWD-positive animal, but it is possible.

From 2015 to 2016, a total of four deer (in DeWitt, Eagle and Watertown townships) in Clinton County tested positive. So far in 2017, a single CWD suspect has been identified in Westphalia Township, also in Clinton County. In Ingham County, five deer from Meridian Township tested positive from 2015 to 2016; since then, no deer from Ingham County have tested positive for CWD.

In Montcalm County, a total of 17 deer from the following townships are suspected or confirmed to be positive for CWD: Cato, Douglass, Fairplain, Maple Valley, Montcalm, Pine, Reynolds, Sidney and Winfield. In Kent County, three CWD-positive deer were found in Nelson and Spencer townships. This is the first year any CWD-suspect free-ranging deer were found in Montcalm or Kent counties.

“The fact that we have likely found so many additional CWD-positive deer is a major concern for Michigan’s deer population,” said Chad Stewart, DNR deer specialist. “However, Michigan has a comprehensive CWD response and surveillance plan to guide our actions, and we will continue working with hunters and taking proactive measures to contain this disease.”

To date, the DNR has:

Established a CWD Core and Management Zone where CWD has been detected. Implemented deer feeding and baiting bans throughout entire CWD Core and Management Zones. Intensified surveillance of free-ranging deer in CWD Management Zones, including mandatory check and testing of all hunter-harvested deer within Core CWD Areas. Opened and staffed additional deer check stations to better accommodate hunters within Core CWD Areas.

The DNR encourages hunters throughout the state to continue to hunt responsibly and submit their deer for CWD surveillance and testing.

“Hunters are our best ally in understanding the magnitude of chronic wasting disease in Michigan,” said Stewart. “It’s vital for hunters throughout the state to continue to bring in their deer for testing, and to talk to one another about the seriousness of the situation and the actions they can take right now to help limit the spread of CWD.”

High rates of CWD in a deer population could significantly affect the number of deer, and also could significantly depress the potential for older age classes, especially the more mature bucks.

Michigan welcomes approximately 600,000 deer hunters each year who, over the past decade, harvest an average of 340,000 deer. Overall, hunting generates more than $2.3 billion a year for Michigan’s economy, with approximately $1.9 billion of that stemming from deer hunting.

“There’s no question that a healthy deer herd across the state is critical to Michigan’s economy and to a thriving hunting tradition that spans generations of friends and family,” Stewart said.

The DNR strongly recommends that hunters who harvest deer in Clinton, Ingham, Kent and Montcalm counties have their deer tested by bringing them to a deer check station.

Hunters who have submitted their deer heads for CWD testing should process their deer as needed, but wait for test results before consumption.

To date, there have been no reported cases of CWD infection in humans. However, as a precaution, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and the World Health Organization recommend that infected animals not be consumed as food by either humans or domestic animals.

Chronic wasting disease is a fatal neurological disease that affects white-tailed deer, mule deer, elk and moose. It is caused by the transmission of infectious, self-multiplying proteins (prions) contained in saliva and other body fluids of infected animals. Susceptible animals can acquire CWD by direct exposure to these fluids, from environments contaminated with these fluids, or from the carcass of a diseased animal.

Some CWD-infected animals will display abnormal behaviors, progressive weight loss and physical debilitation; however, deer can be infected for many years without showing internal or external symptoms. There is no cure for a deer once it is infected with CWD.

To learn more about CWD, and the current known distribution of CWD in Michigan, visit michigan.gov/cwd. Results are updated weekly.

When will the state ban urine based scent lures?

From: jerrynocam
07-Dec-17
I hadn’t thought about scents but that does make sense along with a statewide ban on baiting. Things that make sense don’t seem to be an option when managing our deer herd.

From: BIG BEAR
07-Dec-17
They are testing deer in the UP now too... Why are they still sticking to their guns and not allowing archers to harvest does in the UP ?? As soon as they find one deer infected with CWD in the UP they will reverse that silly decision and it will be an all out war on deer to reduce the size of the herd......

From: Bows the way
07-Dec-17
All out war didn't work in the TB zone just saying. Where we're the testing at in the UP.

From: buckhammer
07-Dec-17
Some day when my blood pressure goes down I will tell you all how pissed I am with the DNR's mgt. of the deer herd.

From: BIG BEAR
07-Dec-17
I'm not saying it will work Rick... but my guess is that will be the DNRs game plan.... reduce drastically the number of deer.

From: JL
07-Dec-17
At least two trains of thoughts of reducing the deer levels. Do you reduce all the deer indiscriminately or do you target the ones most likely to carry the disease to new areas?

08-Dec-17
Unfortunately, the herd numbers should be reduced. APR's likley promote the increase of older and exposed deer, those most likely to be carriers of CWD.

From: JL
08-Dec-17

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APR's appear to foster the spread of the diseases. Jim Sweeney of the Concerned Sportsman of Michigan has done much research and data collection on this.

Leading biologists and disease experts and a variet y of state game agencies, including the Michigan DNR, have suggested that the mechanism of yearling buck dispersal increases the risk for the spread of comm unicable diseases like CWD an bTB. This is a well accepted concept and a number o f states including Missouri, Minnesota and Arkansas have removed APR's that prot ect yearling bucks and increase the number which disperse, in areas where CWD is present, to try and minimize the risk of it's spread. Most APR's in Michigan offer protection to approx. 7 0% of yearling bucks. The concept of QDM is built on the premise that protect ing younger bucks, often with an APR, will allow them to advance to older age cla sses, so it's contradictory to suggest, as some on social media have done, that r emoving such protections will have no impact on how many yearling bucks are kille d as yearlings, which in turn has a direct bearing on the number of bucks dispers ing. Another incorrect assumption promoted on social me dia is that disease mitigation only occurs if yearling bucks are killed prior to dispersing. Some have suggested that killing yearling bucks after dispersal is "too late". From an epidemiological standpoint, that premise is false, which is easily demonstrated with a simple analogy. Anyone who has been a parent knows 8 elementary age kids spread germs readily and that c lassrooms can be hot zones for spreading colds. Ideally, if a child has the flu, a parent would not send them to school. That would be analogous to killing an infected yearling buck p rior to dispersal occurring. Unfortunately, a lot of parents send sick kids to s chool. If that sick child sits in the class room and spreads the disease to an averag e of 1 other child for every day they attend school while sick, it's abundantly clea r that the longer that they keep coming to school while sick, the more children will be infected, who in turn infect other children, causing a multiplier effect. If th e teacher notices that the child is sick after the first hour or two and sends them hom e, (analogous to killing an infected yearling buck after dispersal has occurred), then the incidence of the disease spreading in the classroom is substantially reduced. The idea that as soon as that child steps into the classroom, "it's too late" to stop the child from spreading germs, is obviously a fal se one. The suggestion that having the sick child (or the infected yearling buc k) continue to attend school for another 10 months while sick, ignores the potential that exists for the child to continue to spread his germs, infecting other child ren, during that time period. The claim that focusing harvest pressure on yearlin g bucks is "too late" because most yearlings have already dispersed by the time f all hunting season occurs, is also highly questionable. The fact is that a subst antial number of yearling bucks have not dispersed prior to the beginning of fall h unting seasons in October and as such are vulnerable to harvest prior to dispersal. In the QDMA Chesapeake Farms study authored by Dr. Jonathon Shaw, Shaw stated tha t approx. 25% of the yearling bucks in that study dispersed during the s pring fawning season (Apr. - June) at 10 - 12 months of age and 75% dispersed du ring the fall hunting season (Sep - Nov.) at 15 - 17 months of age. While killing yearling bucks prior to dispersal is certainly preferable, killing yearling bucks which have already dispersed is anot her vital piece of the CWD mitigation puzzle, as the longer those bucks surviv e in their new range as "sparks", the more contact they have with other deer, the mor e Prions they shed while feeding in food plots, the more rubbing and scrapin g they engage in and the more potential there is for them facilitating CWD becomi ng entrenched in a new area. This graphic from the Wisconsin DNR shows a typical dispersal pattern. In this graphic, the red star indicates where this particul ar buck was radio collared as an 8 month old button buck on February 4th. Around Oc tober 20th, he started the dispersal process and left his natal range. In Mic higan, he would have already been vulnerable for harvest for almost a month prio r to dispersing, (unless protected by an APR). Over the course of the next m onth he continued to disperse farther from where he was born. He was harvested ( indicated by the red X) on November 20th after having dispersed around 3 miles from where he had spent most of his life. If he had been infected with CWD, any contacts that he had with other deer and any Prion shedding that could occur, ended with his harvest. Imagine the difference in potential disease impact, if this yearling had been protected by an APR and had continued to disperse a nd spread disease for another 10 months, participating in breeding, joining bache lor groups, defecating in food plots where other deer are feeding, engaging in scr aping & rubbing, etc. To suggest that there is no benefit to removing a pote ntially infected yearling buck from the population during or after dispersal has a lready occurred, ignores reality. 9 Imagine the difference in potential disease impact, if this yearling had been protected by an APR and had continued to disperse a nd spread disease for another 10 months, participating in breeding, joining bache lor groups, defecating in food plots where other deer are feeding, engaging in scr aping & rubbing, etc. To suggest that there is no benefit to removing a pote ntially infected yearling buck from the population during or after dispersal has a lready occurred, ignores reality. Figure 7 It has also been suggested that focusing on herd re duction by employing a female focused harvest strategy will reduce dispersal beca use after a number of years, theoretically fewer numbers of male fawns will be b orn, resulting in there being fewer to disperse as yearlings. There are two prim ary problems which this essentially ignores, however. It completely ignore s the immediate negative impact, in terms of the spread of disease, which r esults from protecting yearling bucks with APR's, as they will survive to disperse and spread disease or survive after having dispersed. Under such a model much hi gher numbers of yearling bucks would disperse than would occur under a male focused harvest plan without regulatory protections for yearling bucks. You may eventually lower the number of yearlings dispersing on an annual basis but duri ng the 4 or 5 years that it takes to realize any actual population reductions, 70% of the protected yearlings are dispersing and the disease has spread over a much l arger geographic region, while you are waiting for the impact of fewer yearlings d ue to herd reduction. From a practical disease mitigation standpoint, that is no t a trade off worth making.

08-Dec-17
Agree with A. Mouse, urine based deer/elk lures and scents should be banned immediately.

From: happygolucky
08-Dec-17
Deer slaughters in the CWD zones and surrounding zones did not work in WI. It just made people really PO'ed when the deer herd was decimated. Once the prions are in the ground, I believe they are there for good. The infection rate still increased even with the slaughter.

Banning deer farms should be in order. Those have proven to be a culprit in WI.

If they ever banned baiting in the UP, I believe loads of people and businesses would be up in arms. I am amazed at the amount of bait I see sold at our local coop in Esky.

From: BIG BEAR
08-Dec-17
I agree 100% Happy..... Deer and elk and hog enclosures should be shut down. Period. Urine should be outlawed to use as scents..... And I think it's just a matter of time before baiting is outlawed State wide again..... and yes... people will be up in arms over it.

From: Bows the way
08-Dec-17
Can yoi imagine the millions of dollars lost to those businesses bu banning bait. If you ban bait the next argument well be with food plots. Still the same thing create a social area if they pee the pirions would be in the soil.

From: jerrynocam
08-Dec-17
I have trouble believing millions of dollars are being made in selling bait. It seems to me everybody and his brother sells it keeping the prices low. If it was done now the farmers would have time to plan a different crop to take its place.

From: Bows the way
09-Dec-17
If there where 300,000 and each spent 25 dollars on bait thats 7.5 millon. Mind you theres no real statics behind this merely a statement.

From: JL
09-Dec-17

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This is a 2008 article on the deer baiting economy. I didn't see any figures for the money spent on bait plots but I suspect that is alot too.

"To a large degree, it is a hidden economy. The best guesstimate: A $30 million to $40 million market, saids Ken Nye, a commodities specialist for Michigan Farm Bureau.

A Newaygo sport shop owner said he knows people who spend $10,000 a year on bait."

From: happygolucky
09-Dec-17
WI banned baiting in the DMUs where CWD was found and then in the bordering DMUs. They then enacted a law that when a positive was not found in a DMU for 3 years, baiting was then allowed again in those DMUs. Please note that I am not giving any opinion on baiting at all. Just providing information.

The latest zones to get CWD were basically from positive tests in enclosures. Now of course the farming operations have not been shut down.

One time when I was at our local coop in Esky, the guy told me that an average day near or in deer season was for them to sell 500 100# bags of corn per day. They go through loads of apples, beets, and carrots too. I know it is big money for this coop.

From: jerrynocam
09-Dec-17
Since I only hunt public land I guess I didn’t take to account what is being spent by private land owners. 10,000 is a lot of trips with 2 gallons at a time. This is my other problem with baiting. I don’t think very many are following the rules. This year I came across 4 bait sites on public land and not one of them followed the 2 gallon rule.

09-Dec-17
So your going to ban urine based lures, but not baiting????? Please tell me the sense to that, or the science of that,,,,,, so my trapping lures will be banned??

I have no answers, but I will go along with real science not political science

From: BIG BEAR
09-Dec-17
Not trapping lures Michael.... deer piss that came from deer farms...

From: JL
09-Dec-17
These days with all the constant monitoring, testing and compliance for urine suppliers....I'm not so sure deer pee is the boogy man everyone thinks it is. Plus how many people actually use it compared to other modes of transmission?? I'd put efforts towards things that likely would be a bigger source of transmission such as baiting, bait plots, water tanks, proper carcass disposal, etc.

From: JL
09-Dec-17

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Arkansas biological samples reveal 70 new cases of CWD NewsEngine | December 9, 2017 | Deer Hunting News | No Comments

Seventy new cases of chronic wasting disease have been found in Arkansas since deer season opened in September, according to samples collected by Arkansas Game and Fish Commission biologists, taxidermists and veterinarians. Although the number of positive cases is high, no samples from new areas of the state have been found so far. The disease has been found in Boone, Carroll, Madison, Marion, Newton, Pope and Searcy counties since September.

Cory Gray, manager of the AGFC’s Research, Education and Compliance Division, says overall the results have been as good as can be expected.

“We have taken more than 2,400 samples so far this season, and we have several batches of samples still at the laboratory,” Gray said. “But most of the positive cases are reinforcing where we believe the disease is most prevalent. Once we have completed this year’s sampling, we hopefully will have a clearer picture of disease distribution.”

Gray says hunters who turn in samples that come back positive for CWD are being notified as soon as possible, and any hunter can check www.arkansascwd.com to look up their sample’s status to have some added piece of mind. Biologists will work with hunters to collect and dispose of any meat from CWD-positive animals and reinstate their game tag if possible.

“If a positive sample is returned from a county which doesn’t currently have CWD, we will follow our standard protocol and confirm that sample through an additional test,” Gray said. “If that test also comes back positive, we will issue a release to make sure hunters in that area are informed.”

Gray says the AGFC’s partnership with taxidermists around the state continues to be invaluable to both the hunters and the agency.

“Last year we worked with taxidermists to gather samples from deer turned in to be mounted, but this year we’ve really tried to advertise to people that any deer can be taken to one of our participating taxidermists to have a CWD sample pulled for free,” Gray said. “We don’t have the manpower to pull samples all over the state throughout the entire deer season, so this partnership really helps give hunters peace of mind about their deer and helps us continue to monitor for the disease outside the focal area, where we know we have it.”

Any hunter who harvests a deer still can have the animal tested by taking the head with about 6 inches of neck attached to one of the participating taxidermists listed on www.arkansascwd.com.

CWD is a fatal neurological disease that affects members of the deer/elk family. It was first described in 1967 in Colorado and since has spread to 23 additional states, Canada, South Korea, and Norway. It was discovered in Arkansas in February 2016, and has since been found in 288 deer or elk in Arkansas after thousands of deer have been tested from across the state.

It is similar to “mad cow disease” in cattle. These diseases are caused by misshapen proteins called prions, which accumulate in the tissues of affected animals, especially the brain, spinal cord, and lymph nodes. Infected animals will not show signs of disease at first, but late in the disease process, they will be thin and may demonstrate weakness, abnormal behavior, excessive thirst or drooling.

There has been no confirmed case of CWD affecting humans or livestock, but with an abundance of caution, the Centers for Disease Control recommends hunters test their harvested game and warns that people should not consume any deer or elk known to have CWD.

From: Annony Mouse
11-Dec-17
I've been a student of prion disease for many years and have had access to some research being done on CWD from a number of labs. A lot of current news can be found on the ProMed mailing list.

CWD/Prion Facts:

1. The abnormal prions shed by an infected deer has been shown to be able to be incorporated into plants, creating a new source of infection. (as is pouring urine scent lures from farmed cervids)

2. There has been a strong link to the spread of CWD and cervid farming. Transfer of breeding animals across the Mississippi River may well be the initial source of CWD in the east (that and urine scent lures). There is NO test that will certify that a deer is CWD negative. The live tonsular assay will only provide information that a deer does not have CWD prions at a detectable level. The gold standard (which verifies the ELIZA assay used by the DNR on heads tested) is an immuno staining of brain tissue done at AMES IA lab.

3. CWD is spread by contact with body fluids (saliva, urine, feces), which would indicate that the higher concentration of deer, the greater chance that an infected deer can spread it to others (this was shown in genetic studies in the first cases seen in Ingham County). Obviously, there comes a conflict between maintaining a herd level that satisfies the hunting population and deer densities that limit the spread of CWD.

4. Although we still see that canned statement about CWD being transferred to humans, recent research has shown that eating CWD prion contaminated meat has infected non-human primates with the disease. Ergo, like scrapie and BSE, it appears that CWD can be transferred between species (numerous factors are known contributors). Off hand, I believe that the report said that what the primates were fed was the equivalent of eating an 8oz venison steak every week?/day? for a number of years. This was CWD prion contaminated meat.

4. Knowing what we know about the disease, it is probably wise to change how we handle the deer we harvest. It is probably safer to process ones deer by self rather than taking it to a processor who will use a bandsaw in processing. Far better to debone and filet the carcass rather than cutting through bones which exposes the flesh to particles of marrow where prions can be found. This also means that highly lymphatic tissue should be avoided (liver, spleen, marrow) and of course, brains.

CWD is here, it is spreading and we are just going to have to learn to deal with it. At present, I don't think there is a great danger of it crossing into cattle, but the possibility does exist.

From: JL
11-Dec-17
A couple of thoughts. I already was aware of the idea of plants possibly being able to intake prions. I also thought if an infected deer was eating the ear corn and the corn was later harvested and sent out to market (Walmart), it would have been contaminated before it even left the field. A couple of years ago that had me wondering about contaminated deer corn sold by Walmart....which is HQ'd in Arkansas and next to Missouri....both CWD states. Does Walmart get their deer corn from the local farms that have been contaminated?

The other mode of possible transmission I recently heard about is shoes and boots. If someone's footwear comes in contact with an infected animal and those shoes/boots go back into the woods with the prions on them, they could then spread the prions to wherever the shoes/boots go. That theory made alot of sense to me as I can see it happening.

12-Dec-17
Why not get rid of baiting deer.....................

From: JL
12-Dec-17
IMO you'd need to get rid of most anything that congregates deer....or at least minimize it. Baiting, bait plots, mineral blocks/licks, water tanks, etc. IMO just doing baiting is a feel-good thing that fails to address the other things. Keep in mind alot of home baiting (feeding), bait plots and water tanks are present year round whereas hunter baiting is seasonal for about 3.5 months. To me a proactive comprehensive approach makes the most sense. All the above, get rid of APR's, targeted culling, etc. That is one thing I believe the Michigan DNR is a little slow on. They seem to be reactive vs proactive. I think of the whack-a-mole approach. In their defense....I'm sure they have a lot of different organizations pulling them in different directions.

From: Anony Mouse
12-Dec-17
JL...unless the prion load was extremely heavy, doubt if spread by walking on infected material.

The longevity of prions in the environment was aptly demonstrated in sheep studies where scrapie (a ovine prion disease)positive sheep were removed from a farm. The land was left fallow and exposed to the elements (sun, heat, cold, rain, snow) for over a year, topsoil removed and chemically treated. Scrapie negative sheep were reintroduced to the land and animals came down with scrapie within a year.

Historical note: CWD was first observed in a research herd of whitetail deer that were kept in a penned in area that had been previously used with sheep and scrapie research.

Here's something to think about:

The BSE (mad cow) episode in Great Britain showed that downer cattle that was rendered into supplemental protein feed could spread the disease. The abnormal prions are not destroyed or degraded by the process of turning a carcass into protein supplements. The rendering process actually concentrates the abnormal prions. That is why regulation now prohibit downer cattle to be processed into feed for bovines.

However, they can be processed into feed for fish, hogs, chickens, cervids, etc. And the offal from those species can be used for cattle supplemental feeds.

The occurrence of BSE in humans in Great Britain has also been linked to their culinary tastes whose recipes included parts of cattle where BSE prions were concentrated (marrow, blood, and brains). Like the non-human primates that came down with CWD, the British fed on prion loaded foodstuffs.

Hmmmm....maybe that is why there is so much fascination with the upcoming zombie apocalypse: BRAINS!

From: JL
16-Dec-17
Jim S. went to the the DNR meeting this week. Looks like more positives will be in the future pending confirmation.

""CWD Update As most of you are probably aware, recent testing in Montcalm County has detected a significant presence of CWD in the herd in that County. On Tuesday I received a list of CWD positives to date from Chad Stewart, which included 29 deer, 20 of them from this recent finding in Montcalm & Kent Counties. Yesterday Russ Mason said that they have added another 13 suspect deer from Montcalm & Kent Counties to that list, bringing the current total up to 42 suspected or confirmed positives for CWD and both he and Chad said that they expected a whole bunch more to be added to that total by the end of deer season.""

From: Burly
22-Dec-17
Up to 48 now.

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