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Names vs. No Names
Massachusetts
Contributors to this thread:
Zone10HNTR 08-Jan-18
Belchertown Bowman 08-Jan-18
Nickcade 08-Jan-18
Will 08-Jan-18
mrw 08-Jan-18
Pi 08-Jan-18
BruceP 08-Jan-18
stillhunter 08-Jan-18
mboudreau 08-Jan-18
huntskifishcook 08-Jan-18
Pi 08-Jan-18
Arrownoob 08-Jan-18
Jebediah 09-Jan-18
Pi 09-Jan-18
Zone10HNTR 09-Jan-18
Will 09-Jan-18
stillhunter 09-Jan-18
Dthfrmabove 09-Jan-18
Pi 09-Jan-18
stillhunter 09-Jan-18
Pi 09-Jan-18
Nickcade 09-Jan-18
Nickcade 09-Jan-18
bigcountry 09-Jan-18
Dthfrmabove 09-Jan-18
Pi 09-Jan-18
Will 09-Jan-18
Pi 10-Jan-18
notme 10-Jan-18
Pi 10-Jan-18
badjuju 10-Jan-18
Pi 10-Jan-18
Will 11-Jan-18
mrw 11-Jan-18
Pi 11-Jan-18
Pi 11-Jan-18
Will 11-Jan-18
Pi 11-Jan-18
mrw 11-Jan-18
Skippah 11-Jan-18
Pi 13-Jan-18
TT-Pi 14-Jan-18
Moons22 14-Jan-18
stillhunter 14-Jan-18
TT-Pi 14-Jan-18
Moons22 14-Jan-18
TT-Pi 14-Jan-18
Dthfrmabove 14-Jan-18
TT-Pi 14-Jan-18
Dthfrmabove 15-Jan-18
From: Zone10HNTR
08-Jan-18
With so many vegans and nuts against hunting does anyone have objections to using your real name here? I recognize this is double-edged since anonymity is not conducive to being accountable for your words but I'm in sales and don't want any comments I would make here to be searchable on the hive-brain that it the internet. I am paranoid about my internet presence and wouldn't want a future opportunity lost because of internet searches. Would it be possible that someone would find a post about gutting a deer and decide you don't belong in a "company culture?"

08-Jan-18
Not likely "at this time" unless you put your name physically into your post.

As algorithms get smarter and AI gets smarter there may come a day in the not so distant future that the data could be pulled from your profile and tied to your post

From: Nickcade
08-Jan-18
You can always go with "off the grid" style type searching. Using a vpn, Onion, TOR, etc. The "dark net" is enormous. Following a few easy steps, you can search the wwi pretty much undetectable, for now at least. It's just not as convenient as logging on and searching google.

From: Will
08-Jan-18
I have used my name since 05 :) I used my full name for about a week, then went to my first name only. Sounds bad, but being self employed I dont want folks searching my name and landing on a fun recreational "place" for me.

That said, a lot of it is simplicity - I'd never remember if my name was "FatTire29.0" or something... Then again the trolling could be fun. Pi, if you see "FatTire29.0" posting about the virtues of alternative energy, that is NOT me. I repeat... Not me :) ha ha ha!

From: mrw
08-Jan-18

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Nickade, those help hide your movements somewhat, but I don't even bother anymore. Data mining is huge, and every site on the 'net is crawled by bots millions of times a day. Now-a-days every digital fingerprint you leave behind is somewhere collected and associated with you. A little drunken porn surfing - they got you. Trying to buy an 80% receiver - you're on a list. Support the GOP, the Dem's know who you are. There are facial recognition cameras in every city and on a lot of highways that know who you are. Big brother is here, and the only way to avoid him is to unplug everything - even then, they'll probably watch you even more.

I just go by the Alfred E. Newman school of thought:

From: Pi
08-Jan-18
Will , your saying that FatTire29.0 is " notme" from Conn. Forum ? He is a crafty dog . Thanks for the tip , I'm all over it ! Grrrr , Woof, Woof ... I'm taking names ! Fido sick'em boy !

Will , on a serious side note, I gotta tell yu something . Down the street the Eversource Electric people are butchering the woods for a Panel field. It's Beside the local gun club ... I just may join now. Lovely ! They actually asked me when we moved here, if I wanted to pay a higher rate for "alternatives"... That got a good laugh from me. No thanks.

Complaint #2 : Every time I am going to my favorite place in New England on the coast, A place that went unchanged since my grandfathers landing in 1947 , I pass two monster Windmills that have just ruined the view of half the bay-side homes and the Town as a whole, that once was a tranquil bay and beautiful coastal setting. Now its a freak show for miles around. Fortunately I don't face that direction but if I did ... Well , lock me up , I would have lost control. Whomp Whomp Whomp

I like alternatives but put them on the far side of Mt.Ugly instead of creating it.

Now , Back to our regularly scheduled program.

From: BruceP
08-Jan-18
I just find it easier to not say anything I wouldn't want associated with my name. I see no point in hiding behind anonymity.

I guess you are paranoid, unless of course your real name is Buck Shot...

From: stillhunter
08-Jan-18
not worried buck shot. if the anti's wanna look me up, their welcome too, in fact come on over, Ill cook up some venison and explain how buying your meat from the grocery store, instead of harvesting it them selves doesn't make them better people it makes them disillusioned. If your worried it seems like you already used a fake name, at least I didn't find a buck shot when I tried to do a back round check on you just now .(kidding, I guess I have to say im kidding).

From: mboudreau
08-Jan-18
Agree Pi, Very familiar with the eyesores the power company decided was in everbody's best interest for their profit. I bike ride down there in the summer and its a real shame they couldnt have put those things 10 miles offshore.

08-Jan-18
I don't worry about it. If an employer doesn't want to hire me because I hunt, well, I don't want to work for them anyway. Easy for me to say as I don't have a bunch of little mouths to feed, I understand those who feel differently if they are completely reliant on a potential job to feed their family.

I honestly think the anti hunting population is probably much lower than we might think, the one's who are against it are just much more out spoken. During previous hunting season's I would intentionally avoid people and in some places I still did this season, but in large conservation area where I have permission I started intentionally trying to run into hikers as I was heading in or hiking out. I was involved in a few really great conversations because of it. Only a couple ladies walking dogs looked at me with disgust and refused to say hello back to me. So although it was a pretty small sample size, way less than 10% of people had a negative reaction to me in an area where I previously would have expected mostly negative responses.

From: Pi
08-Jan-18
mboudreau, Thanks friend . The power companies are walking hand in hand with Government officials who have gotten into their heads that they are entitled to shove this agenda down our throats. As if the visual effect is non- existent.

I wasn't local when it went down but I would have been loud and clear as I have with similar abuses in the past . People are deceived and then its too late.

That was the political kingdom of the past administration ( the Progressive champions) doing what it does best. It permeates into the small towns and big cities alike. Achieved by Fake news. Power over the people . Trickery and Government over- reach. It's A Hollywood production ! And "We the people" are taking a snooze ...

I thank God that we narrowly avoided the continuation of that same poison. ( at least for a short while) .

My apologies for being way off the intended topic. I'm not in hiding and will defend myself as needed with words or otherwise . It's my American privilege and I'm proud of it.

From: Arrownoob
08-Jan-18
I don’t think the bots can quickly and easily match posts with your real internet Id but I understand the need to speak freely with the bros and not have the world know exactly who you are. I hold my tongue on many occasions but wouldn’t the internet be a better place if everyone did?

From: Jebediah
09-Jan-18
HFC I think you're right concerning a fairly small anti-hunting population. And I also think you have to distinguish between anti-hunting and rabidly-anti-hunting. In all of my hunting adventures, including door-knocking for spots, only one guy has been mean to me. A few other landowners have basically told me they're opposed to hunting, but they were nice about it. The few people I've met in the woods have primarily been curious. That's a good PR/education opportunity, so I try to lay off the swear words when talking to them.

From: Pi
09-Jan-18
Interesting point to consider Arrow-b . Is it holding back ones real or deeper thoughts that we could benefit from or is it the accountability of those thoughts ? I think some people have taken advantage of this form of dialogue in order to vent instead of really engage . The skills of fair debate in our life and times have almost vanished and been replaced with guarded opinions . (more attitude than merit)

There needs to be civil dialogue about real issues if we hope to mend the great divide. Say what you mean just don't be mean when saying it. Be open to new thinking and ideas but test them. Test everything.

From: Zone10HNTR
09-Jan-18

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Okay I must confess I was testing the waters if I could begin sharing some things anonymously on bow site. I already have an account and I'm not trying to be sneaky or really say anything bad it's just that "when I was a kid" there was no internet and you could say whatever you wanted to your friends and it was usually forgotten in a few months. Today if you write something on the internet with your name attached to it all sorts of weird things can happen. I know I'm being a little paranoid but I think that's healthy. I'm going to stop using this account and go back to my "real name" account. It probably won't be hard to figure out which account it is but I'm not really hiding, just trying to not be found if that makes sense. I have learned a lot on this site starting last year and this year I'm going to try to keep a log of my efforts to get my first deer. I want to try to keep the blog anonymous so I'll link it here one time and if you want to follow just subscribe and I'll email it to you every time I post. If you like it please share it I'm going to try to get the views up and if people like it maybe expand to different topics. THANKS https://d33rquest.blogspot.com

From: Will
09-Jan-18
Z10 - roger that, Ill check the blog out. You are right, what you say here, or any social media should be assumed to go on for ever :).

I couldn't agree more with you guys, there should be a self edit to maintain a healthy and happy dialogue. Disagreeing is cool. Being a jerk is not. It's the old golden rule so to speak.

Nobody learns if we all just back into our corners and push issues. It's just a matter of being respectful and accepting of other ideas.

From: stillhunter
09-Jan-18
You guys are far more leval headed then i am, i could learn something from you. Also pi you just ruined the illusion for me by giving your name, ive been picturing you in a red Ferrari with a moustache.

From: Dthfrmabove
09-Jan-18
Also pi you just ruined the illusion for me by giving your name, ive been picturing you in a red Ferrari with a moustache.

Hahahha ( Magnum PI ). Wasn't there an episode that had the bad guys trying to put up wind farms off the coast of Robin Masters estate??? Sorry PI had to do it !!

From: Pi
09-Jan-18
That's Funny Stillhunter. You'll just have to live with the truth. Red horns and a Goatee , Sharp stick and a tail...

From: stillhunter
09-Jan-18
I couldnt resist. Some day ill answer for it. It Has helped me to sway some anti's thou, did you know Tom Selleck was a deer hunter?

From: Pi
09-Jan-18
No apologies needed . That's funny .

From: Nickcade
09-Jan-18
Every action leaves a thumbprint online. Onions, tor, vpn, and fictitious names are the closest thing to being connected without being "connected" you can get. As far as employers and people checking you out, retail software doesn't have the sophistication or power to crawl the entire internet, decipher your onion IP break your firewall and vpn and then fictitious name, to come up with a true identity and location. Unless you are a wanted criminal, "Been Verified" wont find you. However, mrw is correct, eventually (if the government wants) they can identify you. You better be worth it though, because its not cheap. Just read about Ross Ulbricht "Dread Pirate Roberts" He evaded dea, cia and made billions. Eventually he was caught, but it was incredibly difficult and expensive.

From: Nickcade
09-Jan-18
correction- he made roughly 28 million at the time of his arrest.

From: bigcountry
09-Jan-18
Zone10HNTR....I too am in Sales. I use my truck as my traveling office too...It is covered in archery/hunting info/stickers and my name on the doors...it's who I am. Have camo ties & gun/bow/& antler tie clips I wear daily. Business cards are in a camo wallet. Hard to hide where my heart is. It has never seemed to have hindered my job so far. Folks do ask questions but no negative things so far....just good conversations....both pro and con....All my buddies here....Big Country aka...Jim Potter.

From: Dthfrmabove
09-Jan-18

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Ready for next season !!!

From: Pi
09-Jan-18
My bow is in the shop. This will have to do the trick.

From: Will
09-Jan-18

Will's Link
Wholly smokes... Pi, I cant take it. All this Magnum Pi stuff is killing me. When I first read DFA's note, I was thinking "what is he talking about"... Then it hit me... Now I see your name and hear the dang theme song! Ha ha ha!

Folks, Pi's theme song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR9WJToFsTs

From: Pi
10-Jan-18
OK, your on to something Will. Now ,if you reverse all the visual images and Backmasking the theme song , You get the real thing.

But if you do so , Brace yourself ! You have unleashed the Beast ... And the Number of the Beast shall be 666 ... Hsssss

The Prophecy : He will call upon the Beast by song and great Temptation ...He will bring forth the Great Beast by his Will... Where there is a "Will " there is a way ! Save Yourself, Repent , Repent ... Before its too late !

Remember your dealing with "Death from above" and could become a very "still hunter". No Alternative Energy can save you ! Blaaahhhhaaaaaaaaaa .... The Dark side has spoken !

From: notme
10-Jan-18

notme's Link
https://youtu.be/XRHhDP8PY_g

Ahhh the 80's..ludes for breakfast and girls snortin of my john...errr never mind that..gotta have a cool theme song bud

From: Pi
10-Jan-18
I warned yu guys ! Y'all opened the wrong door ...

Thanks notme ... Is it getting hot in here ? Maybe just a little Global Warming ... I know ! We can cool the earth with a zillion windmills ... You better get on your knees and pray to your sun god .... I warned yu ... There's No stopping it now....................

From: badjuju
10-Jan-18
but does he have the mustache? :=)

if you don't want someone reading it then don't type it. if someone wants to search there is a way. when the interweb was new and I was a young buck looking for a job I used my first initial + last name for email and stuff. I got so much junk mail I decided I needed something no bot would spam. and badjuju is what I came up with. don't get much spam these days :-0

From: Pi
10-Jan-18
Yes Bad-juju He does ! It all flows as one like a Connery -esque from "Skyfall". With a touch of Vladimir Lenin and Dr. Sigmund Freud.

From: Will
11-Jan-18
Pi - you have me screaming "Mommmmy!" (Freud, BAHHH HA HA :))!

From: mrw
11-Jan-18
What I love is that there are people that use Google Chrome and then complain about privacy. Google collects and analyzes more data than the NSA. And they're not alone. So what! I don't give a rats furry bottom. They want to know my deepest, darkest, secrets? Go at it. My favorite erotica? All yours. How I really feel about: Hillary? Trump? Buddy Cianci? Whatever. I figure we lost the battle for privacy a long time ago. And I'm not that interesting to spend the time and effort to keep tabs on what I'm doing.

Like a lot of what is being said here, I try to not say anything here I wouldn't say to your face. Even when I'm stealing your bright eyes, I'll do it with a smile! Life's too short to worry about things we can't control. And besides, if I wear my aluminum foil hat, they can't read my brain waves!

From: Pi
11-Jan-18
Please Will , won't you slip into my study and recline upon the couch . Tell me about your Mother , your father ? What does that mountain look like to you ? Would you like something to relax you a bit ... ? Your safe to express your deepest motivations ...

What is it really that excites you about a field of warm panels and towering Turbines . Such comfort and yet power , one passive, warm and tranquil and one very masculine ,cranking away and dominating the vastness of our sky ... Together, producing by way of combined Physics a unique and fantastic Quantum Consciousness.

Let us begin...

From: Pi
11-Jan-18
mrw, I think we should schedule a visit : My office hours are between yesterday and tomorrow on a continuous basis. Foil hats permitted. I will bring mine.

Your lack of repression concerns me .

From: Will
11-Jan-18

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Will's embedded Photo

From: Pi
11-Jan-18
Having computer problems. Sorry. Will be off till fixed. Don't pee. I'll be back.

From phone. Pi

From: mrw
11-Jan-18
I know that somewhere (perhaps my fridge), there is a double IPA solution to most every problem. I am certain of it. Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be hoppy!

From: Skippah
11-Jan-18
Amen to that!

From: Pi
13-Jan-18
Fixed it . The brain police must have caught up with me . Pi

From: TT-Pi
14-Jan-18
Almost fixed... but now I'm showing up as TT-Pi (Same person as Pi) I dunno what gives . Or what tomorrow will bring... Gotta love the computer world.

From: Moons22
14-Jan-18
Ohhhh that was u pi who messaged me. Sorry for being short lol thought it was some random person. Came up as "TT". My bad bud!

From: stillhunter
14-Jan-18
Pi " Times Two" the revenge of Pi, we should have seen this coming.

From: TT-Pi
14-Jan-18
No problem Moons . You were thinking you had another stalker ? :)) Stillhunter , Its all that secret training that only PI's know about .

" Pi 2 revenge of 3.14 " sounds like a bad movie ...

From: Moons22
14-Jan-18
Pi, I'm sure if you had feeling that would've really hurt.... ;)

From: TT-Pi
14-Jan-18
I had a feeling once... Then I felt like killing it , so I did. :(

From: Dthfrmabove
14-Jan-18
TT Pi I think it's part of a conspiracy that changed your name and they unforeseen ones are trying to silence you!!! Rise up, oh brave and spoken one and silence them once and for all !!!!!!

From: TT-Pi
14-Jan-18
"Do not go gentile into that good night ... Rage , rage against the dying of the light. " D. Thomas.

DFA , We shall bring down the hammer of truth ! Over and over again ! ! !

From: Dthfrmabove
15-Jan-18
Lead and we shall follow!!!

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