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Jan 24th Sportsmans mtg Fort Collins 630
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Contributors to this thread:
Grasshopper 16-Jan-18
Treeline 16-Jan-18
starbux 16-Jan-18
Grasshopper 16-Jan-18
starbux 16-Jan-18
Treeline 16-Jan-18
ZachinCO 23-Jan-18
ZachinCO 23-Jan-18
Paul@thefort 24-Jan-18
Treeline 24-Jan-18
Grasshopper 24-Jan-18
Treeline 24-Jan-18
Grasshopper 24-Jan-18
Dirty D 24-Jan-18
From: Grasshopper
16-Jan-18

Grasshopper's Link
We have some critical topics on the agenda for this months sportsmans roundtable meeting in Fort Collins including the new future generations bill that should hit the legislature soon. We are also going to discuss recent regulation changes and TURKEY HUNTING strategy/tactics. Hope we can fill the seats, your attendance is welcome and appreciated. January 24th, 6:30pm, Council Tree library off Harmony Road.

At some point in 2018, elections will be held for the roundtable, the public is welcome to apply. The term is for two years.

See the press release at the link.

It is always (usually) enjoyable to meet and hang out with my hunting brothers, hope you can make it.

From: Treeline
16-Jan-18
What is the "Future Generations" Bill?

From: starbux
16-Jan-18
What is “the future generations bill”?

From: Grasshopper
16-Jan-18
This year's version of fee increase legislation.

From: starbux
16-Jan-18
Ok. Thx.

From: Treeline
16-Jan-18
Someone really needs to start pushing back on their rabid fee increase mentality for resident hunting licenses.

Colorado makes more revenue off of hunting licenses than any other state.

Colorado resident hunting license fees are at the midpoint when compared to other western states with the same species.

Colorado runs about the middle of the pack for fishing licenses (Highly skewed by the states with saltwater that include commercial fishing license revenue).

The big ticket items in their budget shortfalls are not hunting or wildlife related (fish hatcheries, reservoir maintenance, killing unwanted game fish, etc.)

There is no plan to increase quality (no non-resident reduction for OTC hunts, no increased access for public or state lands, predator management, etc)

It appears that if we agree to higher fees, CPW will definitely find ways to mismanage the extra revenue if history is any gauge of the future.

From: ZachinCO
23-Jan-18
Great post Treeline!

From: ZachinCO
23-Jan-18
BTW,

The 23rd is the SE meeting: January 23rd, 6:00-8:00 p.m. at Lake Pueblo State Park Auditorium of the Visitor Center at Lake Pueblo State Park, 640 Pueblo Reservoir Road, Pueblo, 81005

From: Paul@thefort
24-Jan-18
I will be attend the Ft Collins meeting this evening as long as Steve brings the cookies. Oatmeal please

From: Treeline
24-Jan-18
I won't make it, but would like to hear some more feedback from CPW about their proposed license increases and what, if anything, we as resident hunters are going to gain from this proposal.

I remain very upset with the CPW's contention that hunting and hunters bring in fewer dollars to the state's economy than wildlife watching or fishing. There certainly seems to be a slant there against hunting that needs to be further investigated and absolutely not taken at face value. Based on license revenue to the CPW, hunting is a much greater factor. When you add in all the expenses required to hunt in this state, the numbers are certainly higher than "wildlife viewing" that I see very little of unless it is someone scouting for hunting.

When you look at the license increases across the board, hunting gets to bear the brunt of it - we have to purchase a different license for every species and all of them are slated to increase - along with the application fees.

With the majority of the "big ticket" expenditures focused on hatcheries and dams, would it not make more sense to increase the cost of fishing licenses to cover those expenditures?

CPW is not as involved in the management of our big game as other states and basically seems to manage to sell numbers of licenses with little regard for population fluctuations or impacts to our big game herds. There is little regard for quality - neither the quality of the hunting experience (overcrowding) nor quality of game animals (older animals).

The issue that CPW brings up about dam and water infrastructure repairs being a big ticket item that should be borne by hunters is very confusing to me. Water in this state is worth more in the long term than gold. Water is bought, sold and leased and a very profitable business in Colorado. I have been involved in water rights leases that returned significant amounts of money. Why isn't CPW looking at these as assets that can pay for themselves and generate income? Should not these required repairs be funded by the water rights themselves?

I am very concerned that, even with the cost increases asked for by CPW, they will continue to mismanage their expenditures and we will be looking at continuous price increases to cover their mistakes.

From: Grasshopper
24-Jan-18
Tomorrow, Thursday January 25th, the Sportsmans Legislative Caucus meets at the capital. Don Biesecker has stepped up to be the Legislative lead for the CBA. I have been told all we will have at our meeting is "talking points".

The bill sponsors will be at the meeting on Thursday. It is in House committee meeting room 109, from 11:30- 1:15, 200 E. Colfax Ave Denver CO. Sportsman are welcome to attend.

I know your a long way from Denver. When the bill gets released, you can sure write letters to those with votes to voice your opinions.

From: Treeline
24-Jan-18
During the week and 4 hours away sure makes it tough to get in front of the powers that be.

I definitely wrote letters the last time and have been to several meetings with CPW. Definitely get a strong feeling of rejection and inadequacy trying to stay up with all the politics.

From: Grasshopper
24-Jan-18
The meeting will be live streamed, so the Steamboat guys and other can login. It says Online questions submital is possible, but I don't know how that works and it is well above my pay grade.

https://www.facebook.com/ColoradoParksandWildlife/

6:30 pm start

From: Dirty D
24-Jan-18
I plan on attending...

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