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lame crowndip 17-Jan-18
lame crowndip 17-Jan-18
ground hunter 17-Jan-18
lame crowndip 17-Jan-18
RutnStrut 17-Jan-18
casekiska 17-Jan-18
retro 17-Jan-18
RUGER1022 17-Jan-18
RUGER1022 17-Jan-18
Drop Tine 17-Jan-18
luckychucky 17-Jan-18
lame crowndip 18-Jan-18
lame crowndip 18-Jan-18
lame crowndip 19-Jan-18
ground hunter 19-Jan-18
RutnStrut 19-Jan-18
lame crowndip 23-Jan-18
ground hunter 23-Jan-18
lame crowndip 23-Jan-18
lame crowndip 26-Jan-18
casekiska 26-Jan-18
hoyt531 26-Jan-18
ground hunter 26-Jan-18
lame crowndip 26-Jan-18
Reggiezpop 26-Jan-18
lame crowndip 27-Jan-18
ground hunter 27-Jan-18
RutnStrut 27-Jan-18
lame crowndip 28-Jan-18
lame crowndip 28-Feb-18
CaptMike 28-Feb-18
upnorth 28-Feb-18
Mike F 28-Feb-18
albino 01-Mar-18
lame crowndip 04-Mar-18
lame crowndip 05-Mar-18
rick allison 09-Mar-18
albino 10-Mar-18
lame crowndip 26-Mar-18
lame crowndip 26-Mar-18
RutnStrut 26-Mar-18
lame crowndip 03-Apr-18
albino 03-Apr-18
lame crowndip 04-Apr-18
Two Feathers 04-Apr-18
Live2hunt 04-Apr-18
lame crowndip 04-Apr-18
Live2hunt 04-Apr-18
lame crowndip 04-Apr-18
smarba 04-Apr-18
albino 05-Apr-18
Inshart 05-Apr-18
lame crowndip 05-Apr-18
RutnStrut 05-Apr-18
albino 05-Apr-18
albino 05-Apr-18
lame crowndip 06-Apr-18
ground hunter 06-Apr-18
lame crowndip 14-Apr-18
lame crowndip 02-Sep-18
albino 02-Sep-18
Chief2 02-Sep-18
17-Jan-18
Found out today that I have nerve damage in the optic nerve of my left eye, which is my dominant one, which will probably leave the vision permanently fuzzy . I have been thinking of solutions and one is to switch back to right-handed shooting. Has anyone ever made this sort of switch...I switched to lh in 1987 when I learned about the whole dominant eye thing. Thanks (tomorrow i get a shot in the eyeball-NOT looking forward to that.)

17-Jan-18
Please don't suggest a shoulder fired, scope sighted weapon-I'd learn to play chess first....thanks again

17-Jan-18
I tried it for awhile with the recurve, I could not do it, but I would think with the compound with sights it would not be hard,,,,, maybe temporarily get a bow, with adjustable weights and draw length, to work with,,,,,,,

good luck, and hope your eye heals, which it will..................

17-Jan-18
Thanks ground but the doc says that the fuzziness is permanent. I shot right handed from the early 70's til about 87 or 88. I have done it but never with a bum eye.

From: RutnStrut
17-Jan-18
lc that sucks. would one of the clarifier peeps help at all?

From: casekiska
17-Jan-18
To begin, sorry to hear of your eye situation. I feel certain this is not an easy condition to deal with and to accept. My condolences.

I had to make the switch in October due to an incomplete shoulder surgery recovery. I shot a bow & arrow right handed for 70 years, then switched to left handed shooting to bowhunt this past fall. I'm not going to say it was easy because it wasn't, but I am convinced that if a person really wants to do it and works at it they can do it. It takes some effort but it can be done. Apply yourself, work at it, ask a friend to coach you and it will eventually come around. I am still learning this left handed way of shooting and it still does not feel as comfortable as right handed shooting once did, but at least this kept me in the bowhunting game and was able to keep shooting a vertical bow. Good luck to you, you can do it.

From: retro
17-Jan-18
I shoot a recurve right handed and I'm left eye dominant. No problem. Not sure what kind of bow you shoot.

From: RUGER1022
17-Jan-18
I ' m a 100% lefty in a right handed world . No big deal . Years back I was given a very pricey set of right hand Golf clubs . Never golfed so I went to a driving range & started teeing off . The club pro watched me & said " I always wanted to teach a lefty to golf Righty with all that front power.

I asked him about the Dominate eye & he said no problem . Just ignore it . He was right . Turned out to be a pretty good Golfer .

From: RUGER1022
17-Jan-18
# 2 Idaho Elk hunt 1978 . Ranchers were packing us in 10 miles . We were side hilling a mt at 9000 ft when my horse And 2 others fell off the trail & rolled over . I was ok but my Howard hill bow snapped .

I stayed in camp for 2 days shooting a backup Pearson stick bow right handed with both eyes open .

On day 4 I killed a nice rag horn at 22 yards . I think the dominate eye think is 1/2 mental.

From: Drop Tine
17-Jan-18
My dominant eye is the one I keep open. Which is my right eye. Never understood the concept of both eyes open.

From: luckychucky
17-Jan-18
I had to switch to left hand because of an eye accident at work thirty years ago. The first thing I did when I got home from the hospital was to grab my 22 and plink. It surprised me how good I shot I think because I was being more careful in aiming and pulling the trigger. You will adapt and be fine.

18-Jan-18
Rut-thanks (and thanks all) a clarifier would be almost no help as the optic nerve has been damaged. The damage most likely was caused by a virus I picked up when we went home at Christmas time. I'll know more today after I see the retinal specialist. I still see fine out of the right eye so I may have to switch to RH>I remember when I used to shoot RH (30 years ago or so) I had to close my left eye to shoot so I would be hard to convince that the dominant eye thing is just a mental thing. Thanks for not suggesting the x because I'd just as soon play checkers...Just my $.02-LC

18-Jan-18
Went over to Pensacola this morning for further examinations. They did a test with dye and eventually injected a steroid "pellet" into the vitreous humor. This is made of the same material used for dissolving stitches. What this is supposed to do is reduce the swelling that is strangling the optic nerve. The pellet should be good for 3 months. The doctor seemed to think that I'd get back of 30 to 50% of what I've already lost. This means that I'll still have pretty fuzzy vision and would make shooting left-handed improbable Hello right handed bow!!-beats checkers and the other choice-LC

19-Jan-18
Day two of the treatment....it is odd to see the "pellet" at the top of my eye. Looks like a stick that kind of moves around. Am trying to make some lemonade of these lemons but it is hard. On the positive side there should be thousands of lightly used bows laying around from guys that went to the dark side and never really were bowhunters in the first place. I am noticing that my right eye sort of seems to be taking over. Perhaps an injury/disease will cause me to become right eye dominant. For the first time in my life standing over a golf ball right handed seems almost natural....hope it is the same with a bow!

19-Jan-18
Lame good luck,,,, should be easy to buy a right hand bow, there has to be a lot out there,,,,,, now you can take some strokes off your game......................

From: RutnStrut
19-Jan-18
lc, there are a lot of good used bows on Archery Talk. I have bought quite a few used on there. Gotta love the guys that have to buy 4 or 5 new bows a year and sell their barely used ones cheap. Hell I use to be one of those guys;)

23-Jan-18
I went to Bass Pro Shop this afternoon to look at a new bow. Hung around for 20 minutes and none of the three guys (joking around behind the counter) offered any help. Guess they're not too anxious for business. I'll not likely go back there. They seem to have plenty of employees but none that I saw helping customers. I'll probably be looking for a right handed bow, 28 inches and 55 bounds or a little less.

23-Jan-18
lame just wait till you get home, and get to a quality local bow shop, and stay away from the big box stores

23-Jan-18
Went to Bass Pro just to look at some equipment I haven't seen yet. I plan on going to Andrew's Archery south of Ellsworth. I trust him a LOT....

26-Jan-18
Looks more and more like I'll be purchasing a new (right handed) bow soon. Have done Mathews since 2002 but I am interested in giving a long look at Hoyt. Any diehard Hoyt shooters that care to give me some advice?? Thanks-LC

From: casekiska
26-Jan-18
Advice to anyone buying a new bow,....what I always say.

Bow brand choice is kinda like Ford and Chevy, one guy swears by 'em and one guy swears at 'em.

If you stick with a major brand and buy one of their better models, I don't think you'll go wrong. Over the years I have owned and shot (not that I am an expert) pretty much all of the brands out there and every year each brand will have models offering different features. You can buy bows with aggressive or smoother draw cycles, reflex or deflex risers, single or quad limbs, short or longer axel to axle lengths, high or low handles, and a host of other features which may or may not be on the model you look at and choose. If you buy from one of the major companies with good customer service, a reliable warranty program, and choice of models you won't go wrong. Get what fits and is comfortable to you,...be it Hoyt or Mathews, or another brand. For sure, buy from a pro-shop and establish a relationship with them. You might spend an extra nickel that way but in the long run it will be the least expensive way to go. Competent and good service to you as a customer is invaluable, and something you probably will not readily obtain at a big box sporting outlet. Don't be swayed too much by the local club expert who says to only buy brand "X" because that's what he shoots. That bow and that brand may work him but it may not for you. Sure, trust the advice of your buddies, but in the end go with what feels good to you and seems to fit the best. And then believe in your choice and have fun with your new bow. Good luck.

From: hoyt531
26-Jan-18
I've been shooting Hoyt for almost 30 years. Currently shoot the carbon spyder and love it. I've shot a bunch of different brands every time i bought a new one and always come back to Hoyt. The best advise i could give you is to go to someone you trust and try all the different makes and models and get what feels the best in your hands!

26-Jan-18
I will second the carbon spyder , love mine

26-Jan-18
Just so you know a little about me-this ain't my first rodeo. I would NOT buy a bow without "kicking the tires". What I was hoping for was commentary about features that may be peculiar to Hoyt-grip, draw cycle, etc. Thanks

From: Reggiezpop
26-Jan-18
You want an amazing draw cycle, shoot an Elite bow. The Ritual will be out soon. It’s a draw cycle and back wall from heaven. If you can wait a month, they should be in shops soon.

27-Jan-18
I've never shot an Elite....thanks for the post.

27-Jan-18
Yep Elite is a very nice bow, I would consider one, if I ever got rid of my Hoyt, but I doubt that I will,,,,,,,,,,,,,, lot of guys at my club shoot Elites

From: RutnStrut
27-Jan-18
lc, I know you know this. But when you get back you should go to A1 in Hudson and shoot as many bows as you can. I know you like dealing with Greg he is a great guy. But I think A1 will have more of a selection to put your hands on and try.

28-Jan-18
Some things I have heard.....(asking since I have only shot Mathews since 2001). Mathews can provide parts for any of the bows they have made. Mathews/Mission were some of the real movers and shakers in the process of full inclusion. Anyone know different??? Hoping so.

28-Feb-18
Started my journey yesterday. I sampled a few Hoyt bows in Hudson. The "Power Max" seems to fill the bill and I can shoot 50 pounds easily. I chose Hoyt because they do not seem to be tied to the shoulder-fired scope sighted issue and they also seem to have a good base country wide in case of an equipment failure...

From: CaptMike
28-Feb-18
"Mathews/Mission were some of the real movers and shakers in the process of full inclusion." That is correct, they were present and lobbying for full inclusion.

From: upnorth
28-Feb-18
Had a customer this year, come i try a few right handed bows . Found the one he likes said order me one in left hand due to his eyes . Joined league 10 weeks ago and I haven't heard him once say he had any problems making the change . Glad he seems happy with it because hes painting my car in another month . He bought the Bowtech Icon Package , real good package for under 750. Bows carbon composite and only weighs 3.2 lbs

From: Mike F
28-Feb-18
LC - Sorry to hear about your misfortune. You are correct in "driving" all the choices out there before buying. Good luck with the whole process and best of everything with your recovery. As far as Mathews/Mission, they have always stepped up to the plate when I needed to get equipment into the hands of Youth/new hunters and Purple Heart Veterans.

From: albino
01-Mar-18
I have shot Hoyt for a long time. They do not make xbows. I love that. Personal choice but they shoot very nice. I have a couple not to old ones you could try but I'm thinking we are a few hundred miles apart. Would give you a great deal on buying one just because I like your attitude. I shoot righty with a left dominate eye. Just never felt a need to change. I do know a few guys that have changed & made it. I also know a great shooter that lost an eye. Guess it don't matter if it's dominate then. Good luck. It sucks but I always tell myself that there a lot of people that have it worse.

04-Mar-18
I am looking for a gently used bow. RH, 28 draw and when the limbs are bottomed out has a draw weight in the mid 50's. If you have anything in mind PM me. Thanks

05-Mar-18
changed my mind and went to Ryan's in Durand. Bought a Triax to learn this right handed thing (again).

From: rick allison
09-Mar-18
I'm right eye dominant and right handed. But, I was a good switch hitter and kicked a football with my left foot. Now, for whatever reason, as a kid I learned to shoot a bow (recurve) left handed, and continued that into my mid 20's. Then, my wife bought me a righthanded bow for Christmas one year. I hated to say anything, so learned to shoot righty...which worked out very well. I can still shoot left, but my bows are all righthanded now.

I think your body will adjust and your right eye will work out fine. Give it time, and you'll be good to go. We all had to learn once, and are capable to do it again.

From: albino
10-Mar-18
I do have a gently used Hoyt Spyder (not carbon) 28 1/2 inch draw, 50 pounds, right handed. Great bow but right after I bought it a Hoyt staff shooter was selling his carbon bow pretty cheap so I bought that & love it. If you want to shoot it for a while you are welcome to it. Just hangs in my closet.

26-Mar-18
This project is turning out to be MUCH more difficult than I ever imagined it to be. Getting a little discouraged at the process. I remember switching to left-handed in '88 and it was very easy, but this was switching to my dominant eye. I really need some coaching but the place that I bought the bow doesn't seem to be into such things. Beginning to think that my bowhunting days are limited if not over. Sorry guys, needed to vent a little.

26-Mar-18

lame crowndip's embedded Photo
lame crowndip's embedded Photo
This is a shot of part of my "Man cave". Bowhunting has been a BIG part of my life for a looong time. Except for the fish, these are bowhunting "trophies".

From: RutnStrut
26-Mar-18
Stick with it lc. I don't know anyone in the area that does any coaching. Maybe someone at A1 would be able to help. Hopefully it's one of those things that just clicks one day. I wish I had some practical info for you. I do have faith that if you stick with it you will get it.

03-Apr-18
I saw the specialist this morning and apparently my left eye probably won't get any better. Switching to shooting right handed is a struggle. My days hunting animals with a bow may well be over. Hunting with a firearm hasn't held any interest for me for several years so....

From: albino
03-Apr-18
Never give up. That is why we hunt with bows.

04-Apr-18
Thanks Albino. Still trying but I never imagined that the switch would be this difficult.

From: Two Feathers
04-Apr-18
Have you considered not using pins and peep on your bow like the guys who shoot barebow stickbows? Right eye dominate or left eve dominate with both eyes open to shoot you will be good even if your dominate eye is blurry and you should be good whether you shoot left handed or right handed.

From: Live2hunt
04-Apr-18
Lame, do you shoot with both eye's open? Or close one eye?

04-Apr-18
Always both open. Been trying both ways and I have a very difficult getting a good sight picture.

From: Live2hunt
04-Apr-18
I can't say, but I would think your good eye would want to take over eventually. I shoot both eye's also, but have never tried left handed to see what happens.

04-Apr-18
Just tried something....I shot my left handed Z7 (close range) using my right eye and the pins were very bright that made a good sight picture. The string touches my nose and the kisser button is still in the same place. It shoots quite a bit left but I think that it holds promise. First time I've had some encouragement for quite a while. There must be a drawback to this but I haven't thought of it (yet). I shot for quite a few years without a peep and did OK-shooting like this prohibits using the peep. I closed my left eye and left it open some and the results seem about the samse.

From: smarba
04-Apr-18
You can use a (no longer made) Timberline No Peep or perhaps the successor, IQ Retinal Lock bow sight to align with your opposite eye. You'll have to adjust all of your pins, which also may require a sight with a longer windage bar.

A friend shot right handed/left eye dominant and used right handed bow but had his sight windage bar adjusted out (basically the distance between his eyes) and used the No-Peep, so the pins and No-Peep were aligned with his dominant eye.

There may be other non-string peep replacements that could also be adjusted to work. For that matter for relatively close range you may be able to get by without anything except nose point of contact and moving your pins out quite a ways.

From: albino
05-Apr-18
I have no experience with that one. Am going to take my bow down stairs and try that with out shooting. I have a buddy that wouldn't use a peep back a number of years ago & when he got excited he would close the wrong eye & shoot. He could hold his bow out & open one eye & then the other & see that is what he did. I wonder if you could mount your sight on the other side of the riser if you can't get the pin to go over that much...Good Luck.

From: Inshart
05-Apr-18
Have you tried shooting with a patch over your injured eye?

05-Apr-18
Not being a smart ass but what good would a patch over my "shooting eye" do?

From: RutnStrut
05-Apr-18
"Not being a smart ass but what good would a patch over my "shooting eye" do?"

I've seen some guys that would probably shoot better that way;)

From: albino
05-Apr-18
Sound shots LC. It works for x bows. I think he was just trying to help & meant to try a patch over your non shooting eye if it was over powering your shooting eye. Or maybe your third eye. I'm still laughing.

From: albino
05-Apr-18
I did look at my line of sight today. It just looked like you need a way to get the pin over far enough. It seemed like head tilt could change the height if you weren't using a peep. If you do everything the same every time you should be fine as frogs hair.

06-Apr-18
Thinking about going to Archery Headquarters in Rochester. They know as much about shooting a bow as anyone I know. Marty has always been there for any help if I need it. I did some more shooting yesterday and the left handed shots are MUCH stronger and the sight picture is better. Just have to get a sight that works with the new form....Not all archery shops are helpful if there is anything out of the ordinary. I have actually heard the new mantra-Just get a crossbow. they should be ashamed.

06-Apr-18
You might want to look at that EZV site,,,,, check it out on line

14-Apr-18

lame crowndip's embedded Photo
lame crowndip's embedded Photo
This is the "solution" to the problem I've had shooting. I really tried shooting right handed but it just didn't work. I remembered that I had a scrap piece of Corian from a counter top job about 15 years ago. Corian is very strong and stable. I did not have to drill any holes in the riser either. This moved the pins over about an inch and a half and allows me to draw and anchor left-handed but sight with my right eye. I'm sure at long range I'll find the arrow wandering some but at 20 yards it's dead nuts.

02-Sep-18
So far the Doctor has been right....the eye has gotten no better at all. I went to River Falls to let the Doctor there know just what the lousy advice cost me. Told him that being left eye dominant and the damage to my left eye had really impacted my life. He sort of chuckled and said "Not any more"..Somehow I've lost all interest in hunting but fishing in the Gulf has really stepped up. I actually thought about leasing my place out but really didn't like the idea as I've lost some really good spots to something like "Four old fat guys from Wisconsin Rapids offered me 6 grand". Usually there are some threads this time of year asking about how to find spots...I know a guy I really trust and offered it to him and he took about a nanosecond to decide. There really is something to be said for establishing relationships whether or at church or at an archery club. No permission is usually given around here to anyone they owner does not know. Give it some thought...

From: albino
02-Sep-18
Lame, so you are saying that there is hope for us old guys that refuse to use an xbow under any circumstances? We can go fish & be happy? Very Cool! I'm getting close.

From: Chief2
02-Sep-18
Lame if you ever need someone to check in on your place I think I live just a few miles from you ( between Beldenville and martell) just let me know we could grab a burger at red barn and figure it out

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