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Another attempt at combining the archer and crossbow hunting licenses is in the works ....

I fired off emails in opposition to this bill to every representative that introduced this bill. I will also send one to my local representative to not support this.

This is their attempt to hide their harvest totals and success rates to keep from their season from being adjusted know the archer wouldn’t push for the shortening of the season and cut theirs also.

I gun hunt but I wouldn't mind seeing that pushed back a week to clear the rut a little. The last couple of seasons have been way to close to peak breeding (Nov. 15).

Can you now see the reason this data needs to be seperate and kept relevant going forward?

One thing I find interesting is that one of the most dedicated archers and WI. Bowhunting and its heritage is absent from all these triads. Kudos to him!

I'm laughing and crying now because I'm going to quote the quote given to me when they started this usage.... the ship has sailed

I've done it once I will do it again comparatively it's no different than making all harvest methods for fishing legal. That's right snagging, spearing, harpooning, trapping, netting , poisoning allowed. It's just fishing and who cares what method someone else uses, all anglers need to stick together(sound familiar?). The efforts of Leopold, Roy Case, Pope and Young, et. al. to get archery seasons established, rekindle the archery fraternal spirit and fair chase/harvest -are all being disrespected.

Soon the efforts of all anglers trying to self-regulate and establish fair harvest will be disrespected as well. So sorry Izaak Walton, Ralph Cole, and William Scrope.

Fish and wildlife are a public resource, we hunt and fish as part of that management process, and we trust the govt. to listen to the public user input. However, one can certainly argue that big corporations, mfg.,etc. can violate that public trust doctrine to create a private industry profit. The end users need to have a venue to have that discussion (public forums, user surveys, harvest data review by third party, etc.) not just a bill sponsored by an industry lobbyist or even worse, a omnibus bill.

We don't live in a democracy where the majority always wins. We live in a Republic where every group has input. The Lacey Act and others like it protect the public resources. Without that hunting, fishing and the great conservation successes would probably cease to exist.

It’s the 30 year old able bodied to lazy to put a little into somethin participant that should be restricted to any weapon season with thier crossguns.

Thier will be a tipping point eventually in Wisconsin deer hunting. It will take getting the crypt keeper out of madison

I like this site to exchange hunting info and ideas. Even if I could use vertical, I will use xbow for bear.

My emphasis is hunting, tracking etc. I do not consider myself an Archer, just a hunter.

And really who cares. I don't hunt to pound my chest, just have a fun day outside.

Be out today, for last day of season.

Kinda curious when one is considered a bowhunter? If someone hunts with a longbow, compound and crossbow, are they a bowhunter and can post here or can't post here because sometimes they use a crossbow?

I got to give ya credit for not shying away from repeating lies. I wish I could find those paychecks.

Might make sense to some but the assumption is false. I just like to check in from time to time to see what nonsense is being spewed this time. I do enjoy my job in healthcare though.

Been following that. My opinion is that wolves, habitat and winters are the drivers of the deer populations in northern MN, WI, and MI. Hunter harvest takes a back seat to the above. History has shown that archery(yes crossbows too) only special hunts on their own are ineffective at controlling deer populations so any harvest by archery/crossbows is likely a low contributing factor to declining populations.

Exhausting? I do get a little muscle fatigue after sending 20 arrows downrange with my Allegheny Mountain longbow. The group size tends to open up some. Whats really helped me with my shooting lately is gap shooting. Been playing with some different arrow lengths there. Got a pretty good grasp on archery. The deer I have killed with compounds would probably agree as well.

Food for thought for those that are able to think objectively and un-emotionally. Every game agency in the country, even those with crossbow inclusion, uses firearms harvest as their primary management tool. If there were not firearm deer seasons, deer numbers would not be controlled by archery hunters. Just a history lesson there that fits modern times. Archery is a ineffective management tool. Archery seasons exist to provide sport and opportunity for those that enjoy it. So, you see, archery/crossbow harvest is not a controlling factor to deer population dynamics.

Over and out till the next crossbow thread where some here don't like to talk about crossbows, lol...............

Correction: What's really helped me "lately" is xgun shooting

Actually, this is not a new concept. The indians drove buffalo off of cliffs. My grandfathers and many in that generation hunted for meat and not the sport of it. Many hunters do not hunt for the challenge of it. The majority of archery hunters today pick up the bang sticks when that season opens, preferring the easier way to kill and killing then takes priority. There are some that prefer to stick to flintlock muzzleloaders or recurves in firearms seasons. They are hunting for the challenge.

The point is one's goals and desires only belong to that that one person. We all hunt for different reasons and that is the reality of the situation. The guy sitting on the stump on the side of the road watching a cornfield with the 7mm mag is hunting how he chooses to hunt. I respect him being out there and I wish him well.

Folks that have to continually disparage how others hunt or what others use to hunt, instead of having a real discussion about why a certain weapon or hunting technique is bad for the sport or the resource, are only trying to stroke their own egos.

Thank you for making my points, lol. That is why rifle seasons are shorter. A much more efficient weapon for harvesting deer and why game agencies use firearms seasons to manage deer. Archery seasons, even with crossbows, are low impact. As far as the rut, I assume by gun you are talking about crossbows? Thanks for making another point. Since crossbows are legal in many states during the rut and the seasons are still quite long and actually expanding in some cases, the efficiency of that weapon and other bows is low compared to firearms.

Thank you for that.

I completely respect that. Conversations can be had without the school yard behavior and ego stroking. I would agree that crossbows have negatively impacted archery clubs. I would also argue that some, not all, archery clubs have also made their declines more rapid due to their approach to crossbows.