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From: Woods Walker
14-Dec-16
But it's still Trump's fault!!!

From: slade
14-Dec-16
WW,

Did you critical think that?

From: Woods Walker
14-Dec-16
Always. Besides, I'm SOOO much smarter than you. Better looking too......

From: Anony Mouse
15-Dec-16
If you are wondering why Pat has yet to return the TOTs (the bane of many here on the CF), he was given a federal injunction as it was discovered that someone had found that they could be used as a hacking tool against the DMV/Podesta.

Thus it was really Pat's fault.

BTW: Pat's moderators are presently undergoing critical thinking training. Order will be restored.

From: slade
15-Dec-16
Mouse,

Do the moderators know they only have to the read CF ? They could get a plethora of critical pontificating to help them.

From: Chief 419
15-Dec-16
^^ I resent that statement. Is there a safe space on the CF?

From: slade
15-Dec-16
Warning! Please read the attached and note this post is no way endorsing or opposing the contents and any remark by one of you lessor-than rubes can and or will be used by the Critical Pontificating Thought Police to construe as needing to be admonished with their dithering twaddle.

Comey to Trump: The Russians Didn’t Influence the Election BY EDWARD KLEIN/ December 14, 2016

In telephone conversations with Donald Trump, FBI Director James Comey assured the president-elect there was no credible evidence that Russia influenced the outcome of the recent U.S. presidential election by hacking the Democratic National Committee and the e-mails of John Podesta, the chairman of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign.

What’s more, Comey told Trump that James Clapper, the director of National Intelligence, agreed with this FBI assessment.

The only member of the U.S. intelligence community who was ready to assert that the Russians sanctioned the hacking was John Brennan, the director of the CIA, according to sources who were briefed on Comey’s conversations with Trump.

“And Brennan takes his marching orders from President Obama,” the sources quoted Comey as saying.

In Comey’s view, the leaks to the New York Times and the Washington Post alleging that the Russians tried—and perhaps even succeeded—in tilting the election to Trump were a Democratic Party effort to delegitimize Trump’s victory.

During their phone conversations, Comey informed Trump that the FBI had been alert for the past year to the danger that the Russians would try to cause mischief during the U.S. presidential election.

However, whether the Russians did so remains an open question, Comey said, adding that it was just as likely that the hacking was done by people who had no direct connection to the Russian government.

“It’s also unclear,” the sources pointed out, “why Putin would have preferred dealing with Donald Trump, who has promised a major military buildup, over Hillary Clinton, who would have continued Barack Obama’s cautious policies toward the Kremlin.”

15-Dec-16
The plot thickens

From: HA/KS
15-Dec-16

HA/KS's embedded Photo
HA/KS's embedded Photo

From: HA/KS
15-Dec-16

From: Anony Mouse
17-Dec-16

From: HA/KS
17-Dec-16

HA/KS's embedded Photo
HA/KS's embedded Photo

From: HA/KS
17-Dec-16

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HA/KS's embedded Photo

From: Anony Mouse
17-Dec-16
Putin Offers Help For "Triggered" Obama, Dems.

MOSCOW, Russia (WORLD NEWS BUREAU) - Russian President Vladimir Putin has offered to send help to President Obama and other Democrats triggered by their party's epic election losses.

Putin made the offer during an interview on Russia TV Friday morning. "As you know, President Obama, Hillary Clinton, and other American Democrats continue to falsely blame us, as well as numerous others for their humiliating loss to Mr. Trump. In America these days being upset about something is called "being triggered" and it has become an epidemic requiring "safe spaces" and therapy to calm those so afflicted.

In the spirit of Christmas, I have authorized the transfer to Washington DC of 10 trained Russian therapy dogs, one metric ton of modeling clay, and a large quantity of soft, fuzzy sweaters for distribution to President Obama and others in his party. Hopefully, this will help them deal with this painful period in their lives."

Putin: Help is on its way

For the CTA: noted that this is a humor site and does not fall under the strictures of critical thinking.

From: TD
18-Dec-16
huh..... I'da though they would send kittens...... cats are excellent spies and double agents.....

From: Woods Walker
18-Dec-16
Not to mention EVIL!!! Agents of the devil they are! (Especially to furniture....)

From: Anony Mouse
19-Dec-16

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Irony overload...

From: Woods Walker
03-Jan-17
Well why not? They've never lied or mislead on anything else, why would they do that now? Besides, he's the first black President and you're a RACIST for insinuating otherwise!!!

Typical white privilege.............

From: Woods Walker
03-Jan-17
LOL! Truth hurts!!

From: Bluetick
04-Jan-17

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Bluetick's embedded Photo

From: joshuaf
04-Jan-17
Julian Assange is no friend of America. At all. He is also an accused rapist and fugitive from justice. Anyone touting what he says is playing the role of a "useful idiot".

From: Woods Walker
04-Jan-17

From: Woods Walker
04-Jan-17

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Woods Walker's embedded Photo
So says Cleopatra........

From: joshuaf
04-Jan-17
In 2010, Trump buddy Sean Hannity said that Assange was a "traitor", should be "arrested" and was "waging war against the U.S."

Also in 2010, Trump buddy Bill O'Reilly said that Assange was a "traitor".

Of course, that was before Assange was politically useful for Trump. Hannity in particular is masterfully playing the role of "Useful Idiot".

And, oh yeah, the U.S. Military designated Assange and Wikileaks as enemies of the state.

"In 2012, Declassified US Air Force counter-intelligence documents, released under US freedom-of-information laws, reveal that military personnel who contact WikiLeaks or WikiLeaks supporters may be at risk of being charged with "communicating with the enemy", a military crime that carries a maximum sentence of death."

From: Woods Walker
04-Jan-17
You.....you mean Cleo that Hannity made a WRONG prediction? Well now....I guess you more than anyone would know a thing or three about that. The difference between you and Hannity is that Hannity can actually SEE and UNDERSTAND where he may have been wrong.

From: joshuaf
04-Jan-17
On September 8, Hannity said on his show, quote: "Everybody's going to think the only reason Hannity likes Assange now is because he's going to make this document dump on Hillary. Which, by the way, I'm not going to lie, sure, absolutely."

In the very next breath, he said "But here's what I've come to realize that is bigger and even more profound, although this could have a profound effect and an altering effect on our election this time...."

From: joshuaf
04-Jan-17
"Julian Assange is a Russian Front-Man, Not a Freedom Fighter" - http://thefederalist.com/2016/09/09/julian-assange-is-a-russian-front-man-not-a-freedom-fighter/

"WikiLeaks is a Front for Russian Intelligence" - https://20committee.com/2015/08/31/wikileaks-is-a-front-for-russian-intelligence/

From: Woods Walker
04-Jan-17
You mean like getting some TRUTH out about the Dems???? We can't have that now can we Cleo? I mean that might mean that Hellary wouldn't win and Trump would (even thought you said he wouldn't)....over and over and over again.

A source like this is NOT the best one for getting some truth out about a candidate, but when the MSM completely renounces all traces of journalistic integrity then you have to take what you can get. So far NONE of the Dems and other Trump haters like yourself are saying that what he revealed about the Dems ISN'T true, just that he did it like he did.

From: joshuaf
04-Jan-17
Welcome to the ranks of "Useful Idiots" to the enemies of America, Woods Walker. You earn it on a daily basis.

From: Woods Walker
04-Jan-17
Oooo......name calling. And now I'M the enemy!

You are truly unbelievable. Literally.

From: joshuaf
06-Jan-17

joshuaf's Link
Worth a mention:

In 2010, Trump said of WikiLeaks: "....As far as I'm concerned, it's spying, it's espionage"

He was right. Then. Of course, as with so many other issues, he "changed" his position on them for his own personal, political benefit. Typical.

http://www.redstate.com/patterico/2017/01/05/trump-2010-china-shot-spies-wikileaks-within-24-hours/

From: Bentstick81
06-Jan-17
josh, "Julian Assange is no friend of America. At all." Josh, you aren't either. Trying to get hillary into office, insisting that she is a better candidate, when everyone knows she was going to wipe this country out. So, where does that put you? Once again, more BS from the hillary troll.

From: Anony Mouse
07-Jan-17
Trump releases new book as Russia releases the top 10 Password’s used by Democrats

Trump releases new book Internet Security for Democrats as Russia releases the top 10 Password’s used by Democrats. In first place is the Podesta Password.

WIKILEAKS BREAKING NEWS: A 14 YEAR OLD COULD HAVE HACKED PODESTA EMAILS. Julian Assange Reddit AMA

password

PassworD

p@ssword

p@$$word

p@ssw0rd

Hillary

H!llary

h!llary

hill@ry

runner123

If you use any of these as your password we strongly advise that you change your password immediately. Please do this for your own safety and my personal sanity.

Please note this is shared in our Cartoons section, it is humor and you should still change your password.

Don’t do what the DNC’s Rachel Palermo did and e-mail your new password to anyone!

From: DL
09-Jan-17

DL's Link
John McAfee puts his findings out there. Something fishy is going on in Washington.

From: Anony Mouse
09-Jan-17

Anony Mouse's Link

From: joshuaf
10-Jan-17

joshuaf's Link
Sure going to be awkward around here for some people who have invested so much effort into deflecting questions about Trump and Russia, if this story is even remotely correct and something ends up coming of it. This is not a joking matter. At all. The Big Question: Is Trump simply trying to "make nice" with Russia? Or do they have him "over a barrel" with some kind of leverage? Starting to look more like the latter than the former.

From today.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/index.html

Intel chiefs presented Trump with claims of Russian efforts to compromise him

From: joshuaf
10-Jan-17

joshuaf's Link
Related. From October.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/veteran-spy-gave-fbi-info-alleging-russian-operation-cultivate-donald-trump

A Veteran Spy Has Given the FBI Information Alleging a Russian Operation to Cultivate Donald Trump

From: Bentstick81
10-Jan-17
and to think josh wanted hillary in there, and the clinton foundation had ties to Russia, and not a peep out of josh on that. TROLL! Alert!

From: joshuaf
10-Jan-17
No, not CNN and MotherJones. FBI,CIA,NSA,MI_6. Shoot the messenger all you want, you're going to look awfully stupid if this blows up into something.

From: joshuaf
10-Jan-17
Nope, this doesn't look suspicious at all. Nothing to see here.

By the way, Trump's business ties to Russian mobsters has been known. Heck, Cruz brought it up back in the primaries, but the lib media was so intent on helping Trump get the nomination that they didn't hardly make a peep about it at the time. There was a reason Trump refused to release his taxes. And it didn't have a darn thing to do with an IRS audit.

From: joshuaf
10-Jan-17
Pretty fascinating reading here. To say the least. At minimum, there are a remarkable set of coincidental circumstances putting Trump in close proximity to Russian Mafia figures. More likely, there is no coincidence at all and Trump is a very bad guy. Remember, after all his bankruptcies American banks mostly wouldn't loan to him anymore, so he had to find foreign sources of financing. Don Jr. said, back in the mid 2000's, I believe, that they got a lot of funding from Russian sources. Said it in a speech to some business group.

OC=Organized Crime

FSB=one of the successor agencies of the Soviet-era KGB

From: joshuaf
10-Jan-17
By the way, here is the bio of the author of the above tweets:

John Schindler is a security expert and former National Security Agency analyst and counterintelligence officer. A specialist in espionage and terrorism, he’s also been a Navy officer and a War College professor. He’s published four books and is on Twitter at @20committee.

From: Anony Mouse
10-Jan-17

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Fake News: BuzzFeed Runs ‘Unverifiable’ Trump-Russia Claims Left-leaning news outlet abandons all journalistic ethics in publishing explosive dossier

This kind of journalism is aimed at the low information type voters...and sufferers of TDS.

From: Bentstick81
10-Jan-17
OH NO! 8^)))

From: Bentstick81
10-Jan-17
Josh and peoples opinions. Ok josh, you proved you can read a computer, and you keep reaching like hillary was. TROLL ALERT!

From: Bentstick81
10-Jan-17
Josh and peoples opinions. Ok josh, you proved you can read a computer, and you keep reaching like hillary was. TROLL ALERT!

From: Anony Mouse
10-Jan-17
From AOS:

"Now Buzzfeed is publishing this document, which has been circulating in the background in media organizations for months (Mother Jones reported breathlessly about it last October).

Buzzfeed admits nothing in the document can be verified, and furthermore, the document contains clear mistakes about the things which can be fact-checked.

So this is the Thing the media is going to be shrieking about for the week."

And josh...

From: joshuaf
10-Jan-17
Ya'll seriously think the heads of the different main U.S. intelligence agencies would brief both the sitting President and the President-Elect, and top leaders in Congress on this unless they felt they had a pretty good handle on the intelligence? Lol.

Give. Me. A. Break.

From: joshuaf
10-Jan-17

From: joshuaf
10-Jan-17
"suspected of irregular contacts with Russian officials"

From: joshuaf
10-Jan-17

joshuaf's Link
"For the moment, the most significant story is not the allegations themselves, but the fact they were briefed to the President and President-elect. The intelligence community does not take mere innuendo to the President, so it means that intelligence professionals and law enforcement are at least taking the claims seriously," Susan Hennessey, a former National Security Agency official, told The Daily Beast

From: Woods Walker
10-Jan-17
HEY! It's in a tweet! From josh! That nails it. He's never been wrong.

From: joshuaf
11-Jan-17

joshuaf's Link
Uh....Wow. To call this extremely damning would be an extreme understatement. If true, this is basically high-tech Watergate for Trump, but using an enemy foreign power to do the breaking and entering. Can you say "President Pence"?

More than one time during the campaign, Trump himself implied that he was privy to/had knowledge of specific information WikiLeaks had on Hillary. How did he know? Makes the below situation seem pretty credible. And Trump henchman Roger Stone on more than one occasion indicated that he had back-channel connections to Assange/WikiLeaks. Again, makes the below situation seem pretty credible in context of comments that Trump and Stone made more than once during the campaign.

________________________________________________________________________

"If some of the unproven claims in the memos are merely titillating, others would amount to extremely serious, potentially treasonous acts.

One of the opposition research memos quotes an unidentified Russian source as claiming that the hacking and leaking of Democratic emails was carried out “with the full knowledge and support of TRUMP and senior members of his campaign team.” In return, the memo said, “the TRUMP team had agreed to sideline Russian intervention in Ukraine as a campaign issue” because Mr. Putin “needed to cauterize the subject.”

_____________________________________________________________________________________

From: Woods Walker
11-Jan-17
"UNPROVEN"/ "UNIDENTIFIED"......Did you miss that part Cleo?

From: joshuaf
11-Jan-17
Don't suppose anyone remembers all that talk from Trump about NATO during the campaign, huh? Sure makes a lot more sense if the below part of the report is to be believed.

11-Jan-17
I'm fairly new to bowsite. Around election time so went back on a lot of these threads to the campaign. This guy Josh......WOW! Is he even for the America?

From: Bentstick81
11-Jan-17
Boy josh. I can now see how all your predictions have all failed. Instead of you waiting to see what, and if, an Investigation, shows anything with Trump and Russia, you just flap your gums, at any and all opinions of people on this, with no proof at all. You always tell people to bring FACTS, to you on here, but you just give opinions. You whine about someone calling you a liar, but where does that put you, when bashing Trump, with no evidence? You don't mind bashing everyone else, but you whine when its done to you. Makes you a PHONY! Your credibility is nothing. Need more rope?

From: joshuaf
11-Jan-17
Well, I guess it's mea culpa time. Putin's spokesman has just come out with the following statement:

Excuse me while I......

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Man, that's a good one, doesn't collect compromising info. Anyone who believes that gets to wear the crown as CHIEF "Useful Idiot", in Lenin's words.

All we need now is for enemy of America, Russian stooge Julian Assange to come out with a statement that denies any of this could even be possible and JTV will be all set.

From: Anony Mouse
11-Jan-17

Anony Mouse's Link
There are plenty of us who remember the segment on the Rocky and Bullwinkle Show called "Mr. Know-It-All". The tagline of each episode was "Nevermind".

Perhaps it is time for a handle change.

Chicken Little also comes to mind.

From: joshuaf
11-Jan-17
"Is he even for the America?"

"the" America. It appears that Putin's Russian twitter trolls for Trump have even found their way to Bowsite now. It's just about Supper time in Russia right now, I think I hear your mom calling you to come up from the basement to eat.

From: joshuaf
11-Jan-17

11-Jan-17
"The" was a typo. Not a Russian troll just a simple man from WV. I'm not full of all the fancy bs words and idiot logic that you spew on here. I'm certainly not rooting for our POTUS and in turn America to fail just to prove myself right. That's the way you come off with every post. Maybe you should have spent more time in your moms basement. She may have raised a more respectful son. Jeff

From: Woods Walker
11-Jan-17
Congratulations josh, you've just graduated from amusing to pathetic.

From: joshuaf
11-Jan-17
WikiLeaks lover and admirer ("I love WikiLeaks") has suddenly discovered a strange new respect for information security!

To be clear: man accused of getting intel/dirt on opponents from Russian intel sources, very upset that opponents and intelligence community were gathering dirt on his dirt.

From: joshuaf
11-Jan-17
Man Spike, figured you'd be all over this story as much as you love "secret" stuff being brought to light. Too many plausible details in this story to get you excited about it? Not far-fetched enough?

From: Anony Mouse
11-Jan-17
It is sort of a sad situation when an obsession gets out of control and morphs someone into the kind of mentality seen by the likes of the Hollywood intelligentsia that rejects reality for fantasy. Thinking that their "entertainment" status gives them intellectual and moral superiority, they speak and expose themselves for the lightweights they really are and their confusion about the differences between scripts and roll playing and the real world.

Also sad, is the once respected world of journalism obtaining lower status than a curbside prostitute (the prostitute at least provides up front honesty when providing service) where they begin to recognize their irrelevance and must resort to "TIAGWAHIS" (Toss It Against The Wall and Hope It Sticks) journalism. No longer do they have to report news, but create fables and stories as a substitute.

The Democrat Party has been taken over by this derangement and the more that their political electeds and leadership stand on the bridge of their sinking garbage scow ordering the crew "full steam ahead", the rational members will abandon them further making the party a regional one controlled by large metropolitan cities.

TDS is a terminal disease.

(note: article contains internal links)

FAKE NEWS: BuzzFeed and CNN fall for Trump Piss Story That was 4Chan Prank

With just ten days to go before he is sworn in as America’s forty-fifth president, the political establishment went nuclear on President-elect Donald Trump Tuesday with a double-barreled blast of “leaked” “intelligence” reports by CNN and BuzzFeed.

The documents contain explosive, but unverified, opposition research that alleges intel ties between Russia and Trump and also claims Russia holds sexual blackmail material over Trump.

One of the most outrageous unconfirmed allegations in the report claims the Russians recorded Trump watching Russian prostitutes urinate on each other in a Moscow hotel room previously occupied by President and Mrs. Barack Obama.

Now this… Buzzfeed, Cosmopolitan, and CNN got played by 4Chan.

" We have the goods on that nasty @realDonaldTrump with hookers smear… You will be stunned! Stay tuned! pic.twitter.com/TYgiQdtOMb

— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) January 11, 2017"

According to the “leaked” “intelligence” documents: Trump disliked Obama so much that he hired two Russian hookers to piss on a bed that Obama slept on in Russia.

And the liberal media ran with this! Seriously?

The original story was created by 4Chan user.

According to 4Chan these documents were created by a 4Chan user and sent to anti-Trumper Rick Wilson knowing he would act on this tip:

4Chan discussed this tonight:

** Political hacks emailed documents to #NeverTrump jackass Rick Wilson about Trump making people piss on a bed.

** Rick Wilson thought it was real and gave it to leftists at the CIA

** The CIA of the USA put this in their official classified intelligence report on Russian involvement in the US election

** Donald Trump and Obama were both given private sessions with the CIA to discuss this.

** The CIA concluded that the Russians plan to blackmail Trump with this story we made up

The 4Chan users then link to this:

"So they took what I told Rick Wilson and added a Russian spy angle to it.

They still believe it. Guys, they’re truly fucking desperate – there’s no remaining Trump scandal that’s credible."

Then there’s this…

If these journalists were real journalists and not fake journalists then they would have found that the original documents did not conform to CIA or UK intelligence requirements.

US or UK intelligence would never say “CONFIDENTIAL / SENSITIVE SOURCE.”

The Trump-Russia intel document headers are “CONFIDENTIAL / SENSITIVE SOURCE” and the source is allegedly ex-MI6. The US and UK don’t use that header in ANY sensitive material.

Here is more on publishing rules:

It looks like the liberal mainstream media got punked — again.

If this is how easy it is to fool the liberal media then I’m going to have my niece start sending them her Harry Potter fan fictions as long as she writes “Confidential / Sensitive Source” at the top.

More….

" 35 page PDF published by Buzzfeed on Trump is not an intelligence report. Style, facts & dates show no credibility.https://t.co/twa8pJMMtP

— WikiLeaks (@wikileaks) January 11, 2017"

From: joshuaf
11-Jan-17
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot

"Useful Idiot"

"In political jargon, a useful idiot is a person perceived as a propagandist for a cause whose goals they are not fully aware of, and who is used cynically by the leaders of the cause."

Some of ya'll are really putting a lot of effort into playing the role.

From: joshuaf
11-Jan-17
Someone is lying. I'm not saying who it is, but his name is Donald Trump:)

From: joshuaf
11-Jan-17

From: Jim Moore
11-Jan-17
I shopuld have bought into Twitter stock. It seems to have usurped real journalism.

From: joshuaf
11-Jan-17
"that rejects reality for fantasy"

Oh Jack. You are killing me with irony.

"It looks like the liberal mainstream media got punked — again."

And quoting all the top Trump propaganda sites on the web again I see, not to mention enemy of America, Russian stooge Julian Assange.

Apparently the heads of the FBI, CIA, NSA and Director of National Intelligence were also all so punked that they decided to take their valuable time personally briefing the President, President-Elect, and top leaders of Congress. Bunch of Dolts, huh!

Funny thing is if ya'll weren't so completely blind to anything negative about Trump, you would realize, quite easily, that all of these allegations are quite believable and plausible based on what we know about Trump's past, both long past and recent past in many things he's said and done during the campaign.

From: joshuaf
11-Jan-17

From: Woods Walker
11-Jan-17
Josh....get some help man. Think of your family.

From: joshuaf
11-Jan-17

From: joshuaf
11-Jan-17
Funny how willing some of ya'll are to swallow hook, line and sinker anything that America enemy and Russian stooge Julian Assange says, and yet how Un-willing you are to consider information from U.S. intelligence agencies that are tasked to help keep this country safe. The "Trump" effect.

From: joshuaf
11-Jan-17
OH CRAP. Time to change the talking points, Trumpists. Trump has now admitted this morning that he thinks the DNC hacking was Russia.

Can't make this stuff up:)

"

"

From: joshuaf
11-Jan-17
"Look, while i do not always agree with you and certainly dont like the way you approach some of this, y9u must realize that I have not piled on you when so many others are attacking you, Josh"

To your credit, you've acted more sensibly in that regard than many others, to be sure.

"so why not a civil comment instead of a ridiculous dig at nothing, my friend."

You have made no secret of the fact you cannot resist a good "secret things are being hidden from us" story over the years. I just find it....a little funny....that this story is a bridge too far for you and you've already made up your mind that it's "fake news", even though you couldn't possibly have any way of knowing that. I don't know if you're a "pizzagate" believer, but you've got people believing that story that are demanding proof on this one. Lol.

From: Woods Walker
11-Jan-17
Get some help josh, really.

From: TSI
11-Jan-17
Didn't the Clintons hire a op to fabricate the fake news last year?It was delivered to McCain by a courier?McCain just released a statement that he made no judgment on the information and did what any Senator would do when a courier delivers a suspect package or document!

From: Bentstick81
11-Jan-17
Boy josh. There you go again, showing your stupidity. Not only is your Predictions proving to be a joke, your so called OPINIONS are as bogus as you are. This is what happens, when you don't wait for the FACTS to come out, especially from you, Mr. Facts. Telling everyone on here to produce facts, before you will debate. It's quite comical watching you sink yourself. You don't even have the mentality, to quit. What a hoot. You can't fix stupid. 8^)))

From: TSI
11-Jan-17
Buzzfeed,CNN,Josh!Bogus news!

From: Bentstick81
11-Jan-17
It's amazing that someone can come to bowsite, and hasn't been here long, and can see how josh acts. Keep spinning those wheels josh. 8^)))

From: joshuaf
11-Jan-17
Some people haven't read this thread.

But keep on believing the Trump propaganda sites.

From: joshuaf
11-Jan-17
The law firm advising Trump today recently won....wait for it....the Russia Law Firm of the Year award.

They also represent Felix Sater, the Russian Mafia figure with a criminal record as long as your arm, who has had close business ties to Trump for a number of years.

Can't make this stuff up.

From: Bentstick81
11-Jan-17
Once again. You can't fix stupid.

From: Woods Walker
11-Jan-17
I wished I'd have owned stock in Prep H, because it will be going through the roof after the reaming Trump gave the fake news media today (forever known as FNM).

And I have a feeling it's not the last time!

The other beautiful thing about today was that he completely ECLIPSED the outgoing Narcissist-In-Chief's final circle jerk! AWESOME!!!!

From: Jim Moore
11-Jan-17

Jim Moore's embedded Photo
Jim Moore's embedded Photo

From: gflight
11-Jan-17
CNN and Buzzfed were pulling out all the stops with a report that was floating around since before the election. Didn't think they could lose much more credibility but I guess I was wrong.

The press conference was all great with the Feds controlling prescription drug bidding, tariffs on business, and paying for a wall with tax our dollars until Mexico pays us, but so are Obama's speeches which are never true to his actions.

"As far as hacking, I think it was Russia. But I think we also get hacked by other countries and other people." Donald Trump

From: joshuaf
11-Jan-17
Ya'll are focusing on these reports/stories as "one-off's", as though Trump doesn't have extensive ties to Russia. He does (despite his denials). The information is out there for anyone who actually wants to know.

The intelligence is raw HUMINT (look it up), some may be incorrect, doesn't mean it all is. It is not a hoax by 4chan, unless you think the top Intelligence Agencies in the U.S. are so incompetent that they fell for an internet forum hoax. Reports are that this information has been floating around for over a year and a half. The idea that the information in this document originated on 4chan is incorrect. Some of ya'll should read before you speak.

From: TSI
11-Jan-17
Josh your the same nut that said myself and others were paid spies!!Nothing you say holds any weight anymore!!You want to work for CNN I'm sure they would love to hear your tales.

From: Bentstick81
11-Jan-17
More opinions.( josh's facts). "Floating around for over a year and a half." What took you so long to find it. "Some of ya'll should read before you speak." This coming from someone that jumps to conclusions, before the facts are out. What a nut. 8^)))

From: joshuaf
11-Jan-17

joshuaf's embedded Photo
joshuaf's embedded Photo
Felix Sater, longtime criminal, Russian Mafia figure, Trump business associate/advisor. Anyone interested in more reading, do a google search on "felix sater bayrock trump", lots there to keep you busy.

From: TSI
11-Jan-17
Josh stay off the internet before it's too late!Try stamp collecting!

From: Bentstick81
11-Jan-17
josh, no one needs to read opinions of people that don't like Trump. It's not hard to figure out that it will be something negative about him. Can you understand that, maybe?

From: joshuaf
11-Jan-17
Ol' Vlad.

From: joshuaf
11-Jan-17
"The reports were BOGUS, NOTHING can be verified....NOTHING !!"

Of course, which is why the heads of the U.S. intelligence services decided the info. necessitated personal briefings with Obama, Trump, and top leaders of Congress. Because that's what they take to the President, stuff that is so obviously bogus that you, joe q. internet user, know this less than 24 hours after they became public, via your favorite Trump propaganda web sites. Yep, those career spymasters in U.S. intelligence ain't got nothing on your favorite Trump propaganda sites. Nope, nothing to see here at all.

Get real.

From: Bentstick81
11-Jan-17
8^(((, 8^(((, 8^(((, I got tears on my key board.

From: joshuaf
11-Jan-17

From: Woods Walker
11-Jan-17
Josh talking about "REAL".......

Now THAT'S funny. REAL funny, as in wet your pants funny!

From: TSI
11-Jan-17
Josh even the simplest minds like myself can see that your not preaching to a receptive audience!You ignore facts and your false allegations you have and still do throw at others!Appears your motive is to delegitimize your President,spread fear,Ignore your peers,and be part of the problem fake news has created.Because of CNN,buzzfeed etc and people like you!!No one can trust the media to deliver news anymore.Id suggest your persistence and increased ignorance of others and the word (factual) Your a troll and should be banned as are many others for less frequent foolish posts.

From: Woods Walker
11-Jan-17
Well I don't want him banned. It's like watching a train wreck or a demolition derby.

From: TSI
11-Jan-17
Woodswalker why not him but so many others?His false information is entertaining to most who know he's intentionally wrong,but some actually believe that crap and it can have harmful effects.

11-Jan-17
I'm speechless. Truly speechless

From: TSI
11-Jan-17
Train wreck is on 24hrs a day on CNN

From: joshuaf
11-Jan-17
Recap:

  • Russian stooge Julian Assange & 4chan internet forum=Impeccable Sources!

  • America's top Intelligence Agencies=Bunch of gullible Dolts!

    This is where the Trump supporters are at.

  • From: Bentstick81
    11-Jan-17
    More B.S. from the TROLL. Expect people to believe your stupidity with opinions, not facts. 0 Credibility, once again.

    From: Anony Mouse
    11-Jan-17
    josh...you forgot to post this one:

    From: Anony Mouse
    11-Jan-17

    Anony Mouse's Link

    11-Jan-17
    Clapper confirmed that the documents used to smear trump by Buzzfeed and CNN were not authentic US documentation used internally by any US intelligent agency. Can you say ooppps josh?

    From: TSI
    11-Jan-17
    CNN has spent the whole day trashing trump over and over.Cnn could be fluttering fish outta water!

    From: Woods Walker
    11-Jan-17
    " Can you say ooppps josh?"

    No...he can't. His mouth is incapable of forming those words.

    More likely we'll get more verbal gymnastics and meaningless tweets. But.....in his version of reality he'll think he really dazzled and amazed us with his brilliance while he high-5's himself. Then he'll board his barge and continue down De-Nial.

    From: joshuaf
    11-Jan-17

    From the article:

    "Still, U.S. officials said the allegations were not easily dismissed, in part because Steele was a known quantity who had produced reliable information about Russia in the past. “He’s a meticulous professional, and there are no questions about his integrity,” said one U.S. official who has worked with Steele. “The information he provided me [about Russia] was valuable and useful.”

    From: joshuaf
    11-Jan-17
    All the squealing from the stuck pigs in here has the natural effect of making me want to double down. Think I will.

    Anyone who needs a safe space so they don't have to read any negative things about Trump can feel free not to open the thread.

    From: bad karma
    12-Jan-17
    JTV, really? Do you have first hand knowledge of what happened? For all we know, there's a disinformation campaign going on. Josh may be misinformed because of his sources, and you may be as well.

    From: TSI
    12-Jan-17
    It rubs the lotion on its skin...

    From: Woods Walker
    12-Jan-17
    Yahoo news? Really??? How about AOL "news". Or CNN? The FNM at it's finest for sure. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel! But.....I suppose that's why he assured us that Trump would NOT be the nominee and would NOT win the general either.

    Sure josh, double down. That's the ticket..........

    But PLEASE.......DON'T BET ANY LIMBS!!!!

    From: Bentstick81
    12-Jan-17
    josh, go ahead and double down. Type all you want. It's quite comical watching you destroy your credibility. I like watching you squirm, like hillary did. Keep showing your stupidity. You just can't stand Trump as POTUS, but get used to it. You got four years to keep showing you ignorance, and good chance, another four years. Carry on with your fake, facts. I like it.8^))))

    From: Woods Walker
    12-Jan-17
    X2 spike, it's a must read for sure. War has definitely been declared.

    From: joshuaf
    12-Jan-17
    Trump's tweet this morning is a far cry from what Clapper's statement yesterday said. The statement said nothing about the report being false, fictitious, made up, or phony. It said they haven't made definitive judgements yet about the information in the report, and that he was dismayed it had been leaked, though he didn't think the Intelligence Community was responsible for that.

    Furthermore, if the report was not a "product" of the U.S. Intelligence Community (as Clapper stated and we know since a former MI6 agent was the author, via a private Brit intelligence firm), then I also don't see how it could have been "illegal" to circulate it (which has been happening since the Summer of 2016, apparently).

    Lyin' Don.

    Donald Trump=Fake News

    From: joshuaf
    12-Jan-17

    joshuaf's Link
    Wow. Story at link. Sure sounds from the story that U.S. IC gives some credence to reports of nefarious Trump ties to Kremlin/Putin.

    By the way, for those of you who don't read much or any international news sites, ynet is a big news site in Israel. Just trying to save you from embarrassing yourself by questioning the source since you may have never heard of it.

    From: Scar Finga
    12-Jan-17
    OMG BREAKING NEWS.... The CIA & HLS have just released a report stating that a "Russian Operative" code named "joshuaf" has been reeking havoc, spewing lies and discontent on several outdoor and hunting forums. It was discovered through DNA testing that he is a 1st cousin to Bill Clinton. The DNA sample was recovered from a toilet seat that Hillary Clinton (Code Name SheBitch) had just used due to having a sever and uncontrollable case of diarrhea... The DNA from "Joshuaf" was reportedly "Saliva Based".

    More news as it becomes available...

    From: TSI
    12-Jan-17
    Does anyone trust the media?

    From: TSI
    12-Jan-17
    Josh beating down your leader does no good!Do you wish your government and economy to fail?

    From: joshuaf
    12-Jan-17

    From: joshuaf
    12-Jan-17
    Going to be interesting watching the fireworks (hopefully not literally) that ensue when Trump has to decide between doing what Mattis wants and what Putin wants.

    From: joshuaf
    12-Jan-17
    Re-upping this from right after the election. Russia says it had contacts with Trump team members during campaign. Information? Or Disinformation? I don't know, but clearly, someone is lying. Who you going to believe? Trump? Or your new best friends Russia?

    From: Bentstick81
    12-Jan-17
    Man, that smell is back.

    From: Bentstick81
    12-Jan-17
    TSI, i think you are on josh's "no answer list". 8^))) Tail tucker. We had a new person come on the CF, and it didn't take him long to figure out who the guy was that starts all the trouble on here.(josh). Its as simple as it was to see through hillary. You got to love it.8^)))

    From: joshuaf
    12-Jan-17

    joshuaf's Link
    Most detailed article I've seen so far on how this intelligence report came about.

    Article reports that the former Brit MI6 operative (Mr. Steele) who compiled the investigative report was MI6's top expert on Russia at one time.

    From: joshuaf
    12-Jan-17
    Donald "I Love WikiLeaks" Trump's nominee for new CIA chief:

    From: joshuaf
    12-Jan-17

    Not to some people.

    From: TD
    12-Jan-17
    "Josh beating down your leader does no good!"

    And mindlessly swallowing and defending anything and everything he says and does IS good..... really?

    I don't know what the facts are. And none here know enough about it to be defending anyone. Several of the "defenses" have been blown out of the water, as well as some of the accusations. But seeing the koolaid stains on folks lips is pretty scary. I do find it strange and self contradicting that some of the very same people who swallow any rumor or conspiracy theory about Obama or Clinton, even spreading them personally, are now the defenders of pretty much of what seems the same thing. Objectivity, wanting to know what is really the truth has left the room.... replaced by pom poms and sycophants.

    I don't know one way or another about any of this. I know Trump is not a trustworthy person. I know several of these "sources" are not either. So I wait and see. But he will get no passes from me if it turns out he's a big hot mess. Nor SHOULD he from anyone, but that doesn't seem it will be the case. On the flip side... If this gets all cleared up.... then those who started it should be made to pay. We shall see.

    From: joshuaf
    12-Jan-17

    From: TSI
    12-Jan-17
    Josh no one disagrees it likely was Russia.But and a big but!!!!nothing factually shows Putin definately ordered it or definitely was Russia they can only say it appears to be likely Russia.Would never stand the test of law anywhere.No politician or any one else has ever said it is proven it's just likely and their confident but not absolutely sure and never will.Facts are facts

    From: Woods Walker
    12-Jan-17
    TSI: Your trying to use reason......don't bother.

    12-Jan-17
    TD, anybody with sense see's it that way.

    The situation here is you have one guy pulling everything he can to defend his position on Trump. It's a broad brush. You have the rest of us trying to figure out what is wrong with him.

    No one is going to give Trump an inch if he has done something wrong. No one is going to give ding bat the satisfaction of being an idiot on the "facts" he has presented either. It's a wait and see for everyone. Including ding bat.

    Trump has never made is past ties with Russia a secret. Regardless of what ding bat is trying to imply. Ding bat is "turning up the heat" in his mind. But, in reality, he is affirming his mental stability.

    Ding bat has some problems. One major problem is he over reacts like a childish ding bat. This is ding bat turning it up. Whoa. Ding bat has lost his mind. Hey ding bat, have you remembered to feed the animal through this melt down?

    Chill out ding bat. You aren't turning up the heat on anyone but yourself.

    From: TSI
    12-Jan-17
    I heard a rumour but I didn't believe it that josh may have or knows something or heard it himself that he leaked to buzzfeed!

    From: Bentstick81
    12-Jan-17
    We thought that PSEBow was bad, josh has got him beat.

    From: joshuaf
    13-Jan-17
    Just a reminder: those of you questioning the credibility and reliability of the U.S. intelligence community were more than happy to extend all possible credibility to the FBI's James Comey when he came out with "the letter" about E-MailGate a week and a half before the election. And why were you happy to do so then but not now? Easy: because it was the other guy's ox who was getting gored, not your own.

    Rank. Hypocrisy.

    From: Bentstick81
    13-Jan-17
    8^)))

    From: joshuaf
    13-Jan-17

    From the article:

    The Spy Who Wrote the Trump-Russia Memos: It Was "Hair-Raising" Stuff

    excerpts:

    "The memos noted that this spy's sources had provided him with information indicating that Russian intelligence had mounted a yearslong operation to co-opt or cultivate Trump and had gathered secret compromising material on Trump. They also alleged that Trump and his inner circle had accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin."

    __________________________________________________

    The former intelligence official went to work and contacted his network of sources in Russia and elsewhere. He soon received what he called "hair-raising" information. His sources told him, he said, that Trump had been "sexually compromised" by Russian intelligence in 2013 (when Trump was in Moscow for the Miss Universe contest) or earlier and that there was an "established exchange of information between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin of mutual benefit." He noted he was "shocked" by these allegations.

    __________________________________________________

    The former spy said he soon decided the information he was receiving was "sufficiently serious" for him to forward it to contacts he had at the FBI. He did this, he said, without permission from the American firm that had hired him. "This was an extraordinary situation," he remarked.

    __________________________________________________

    The response to the information from the FBI, he recalled, was "shock and horror." After a few weeks, the bureau asked him for information on his sources and their reliability and on how he had obtained his reports. He was also asked to continue to send copies of his subsequent reports to the bureau. These reports were not written, he noted, as finished work products; they were updates on what he was learning from his various sources. But he said, "My track record as a professional is second to no one."

    __________________________________________________

    "This was something of huge significance, way above party politics," the former spy told me. "I think [Trump's] own party should be aware of this stuff as well." He noted that he believed Russian intelligence's efforts aimed at Trump were part of Vladimir Putin's campaign to "disrupt and divide and discredit the system in Western democracies."

    __________________________________________________

    A senior US administration official told me that he had worked with the onetime spook and that the former spy had an established and respected track record of providing US government agencies with accurate and valuable information about sensitive national security matters. "He is a credible source who has provided information to the US government for a long time, which senior officials have found to be highly credible," this US official said.

    __________________________________________________

    When I spoke with the former spy, he appeared confident about his material—acknowledging these memos were works in progress—and genuinely concerned about the implications of the allegations. He came across as a serious and somber professional who was not eager to talk to a journalist or cause a public splash. He realized he was taking a risk, but he seemed duty bound to share information he deemed crucial. He noted that these allegations deserved a "substantial inquiry" within the FBI.

    From: Bentstick81
    13-Jan-17
    OH NO! Call the National Guard 8^)))

    From: elkmtngear
    13-Jan-17
    Well it seems the guy has gone on the lam...why would he do that if everything he offered up was "credible"?

    From an NYT article: "According to neighbors and news reports, Mr. Steele hurriedly left his home in Surrey, a county southwest of London, on Wednesday to avoid attention or possible retribution once his identity as the author of the dossier was revealed, first by The Wall Street Journal. The Journal reported that Mr. Steele had declined its interview requests because the subject was “too hot.”

    From: Anony Mouse
    13-Jan-17

    From: joshuaf
    13-Jan-17

    joshuaf's Link
    "Well it seems the guy has gone on the lam...why would he do that if everything he offered up was "credible"?"

    Guess you missed the part earlier in the thread about radioactive tea, exotic chinese death plants, and poison pellets. That was not a joke. The guy is afraid for his life about Putin's goons trying to send him to an early grave. It said right there in your quote: "possible retribution". He was the handler for a Russian KGB double agent who sought political asylum in England in 2006, but not before Putin gave him a dirt nap by assassinating him with radioactive tea. Not a joke.

    From: Woods Walker
    13-Jan-17
    LMAO!!! Next you'll be telling us he was reading the stars and tea leaves!

    Really josh.....you ARE just kidding us. You aren't THAT nuts yet are you??

    From: joshuaf
    13-Jan-17
    Apparently some Trumpists are extremely naive in addition to sycophantic. Or just dishonest. Personally....I'm putting my chips on them being just plain dishonest for the most part.

    From: Bentstick81
    13-Jan-17
    Woods Walker, the Clinton foundation had ties with Russia, but josh hasn't mentioned that once, even though he thinks hillary wood've been a better candidate. Imagine that.

    From: Bentstick81
    13-Jan-17
    If you put your chips up josh, with your record of B.S. predictions, you will lose them.

    From: Anony Mouse
    13-Jan-17

    Anony Mouse's Link
    Guccifer 2.0 Comes Out of Hiding: I Breached DNC Network, The Intel Russia Report “A Crude Fake”

    Jim Hoft Jan 13th, 2017

    Hacker Guccifer 2.0 came out of hiding and posted his first tweet since November on Thursday.

    The obscure hacker admits he breached the DNC network in his latest post. He also says the Russia Report released by the CIA is a “crude fake.”

    Here I am again, my friends! Check my new post about FBI/DHS/NSA reports & their fake evidence #Guccifer2 https://t.co/Low4v1qCQx

    — GUCCIFER 2.0 (@GUCCIFER_2) January 12, 2017

    From the Guccifer 2.0 website: Guccifer 2.0 reported:

    I really hope you’ve missed me a lot. Though I see they didn’t let you forget my name. The U.S. intelligence agencies have published several reports of late claiming I have ties with Russia.

    I’d like to make it clear enough that these accusations are unfounded. I have totally no relation to the Russian government. I’d like to tell you once again I was acting in accordance with my personal political views and beliefs.

    The technical evidence contained in the reports doesn’t stand up to scrutiny. This is a crude fake.

    Any IT professional can see that a malware sample mentioned in the Joint Analysis Report was taken from the web and was commonly available. A lot of hackers use it. I think it was inserted in the report to make it look a bit more plausible.

    I already explained at The Future of Cyber Security Europe conference that took place in London in last September, I had used a different way to breach into the DNC network. I found a vulnerability in the NGP VAN software installed in the DNC system.

    It’s obvious that the intelligence agencies are deliberately falsifying evidence. In my opinion, they’re playing into the hands of the Democrats who are trying to blame foreign actors for their failure.

    The Obama administration has a week left in office and I believe we’ll see some more fakes during this period.

    I guess you have a lot of questions for me. So, feel free to send them via DM.

    According to the flimsy intelligence community’s Case Against Russia Guccifer 2.0, the entity that originally distributed hacked materials from the Democratic party, is a deeply suspicious figure who has made statements and decisions that indicate some Russian connection.

    Guccifer 2.0 says the intelligence community is deliberately falsifying evidence to play into the hands of Democrats.

    (note: there are internal links within article...reference/citation for the obsessive deniers)

    From: TD
    13-Jan-17
    Well gosh..... that sure settles it..... an anonymous hacker pinky swears Russia had nothing to do with it.... even when our intelligence says they likely did..... and even Trump himself NOW agrees they did. Well, you know, after he said they didn't.... good grief....

    With the pattern that is developing, before he's even taken office..... gonna be a LONG four years for you folks.......

    From: Bentstick81
    13-Jan-17
    One thing is for sure, we won't know til he gets in there. Never know, he might just be what this country needs. We'll find out.

    From: joshuaf
    13-Jan-17

    From: joshuaf
    13-Jan-17
    Oh look, Jack is relying on anonymous hackers and Trump propaganda sites again (while discounting U.S. Intelligence) to try and prove Trump is in the clear, despite much evidence to the contrary. And I'm sure you're not using any of this information as "proof" or "validation", right Jack, since you so deeply disapprove of that? Right?

    From: Anony Mouse
    13-Jan-17

    Anony Mouse's embedded Photo
    Anony Mouse's embedded Photo

    From: joshuaf
    13-Jan-17
    Well, well. This looks very sleazy. To say the least.

    Can you say "Pay to Play"? Isn't that what ya'll were supposedly so upset about with the Clinton Foundation (the one Trump gave $100,000 to)?

    Rosneft=Russia's state owned oil company

    From: TD
    14-Jan-17
    What grade are you guys in again????

    good grief.... there is a very "suppressive" feel about all this. Like some KNOW there may be a fire where there is smoke..... and trying to bully folks who smell smoke that it's somehow impossible..... and have taken no measure of the factual history, factual anything really, completely ignoring it.

    You want to debate something use some facts and drop the pre teen schoolyard stuff. It doesn't cut it here, or shouldn't... and nobody but the pom-poms give a rats wrinkles..... if it's so slam dunk it shouldn't be any problem, right?

    If any of this is true..... are people actually so in the tank they are willing to support and defend it? For the "cause"?

    wow. Pogo time.....

    From: joshuaf
    14-Jan-17
    "there is a very "suppressive" feel about all this."

    Indeed.

    From: joshuaf
    14-Jan-17
    Jack, you need to close your Italics html tag.

    From: joshuaf
    14-Jan-17

    joshuaf's Link
    More details. Including discussion of why the Trump team had Ukraine language removed from the GOP platform.

    From: Bentstick81
    14-Jan-17
    TD, josh is throwing up Opinions, and wants them to be facts. Your right, where there's smoke, its just josh blowing smoke up your arse. Take any of this smoke from josh, and watch the news. It's either proven false, or you don't hear anything about it. Instead of josh waiting to see if anything is proven, he jumps to conclusions, as always, and just swears it to be true. The media, and josh, can't stand Trump as POTUS, and are trying everything they can to disrupt him. The people of this Nation is sick of this type of behavior. I have said this multiple times, NO ONE knows how Trump will be as POTUS. The people have spoken, it's time to see how he will do. He has to have tim,e to prove himself. It's your choice to believe josh or not. With his track record, i would vote, not.

    From: joshuaf
    14-Jan-17
    More squealing of stuck pigs. The smell of fear is pungent that this might actually be true and might have some legs.

    Look on the bright side: Pence has actually done some Conservative things in his career. If he ends up as the President, that would be vastly preferable for the country.

    From: Bentstick81
    14-Jan-17
    Josh, No its just the truth. Something that you can't accept. You type it, but run when its proven you have no idea what the he!! you are talking about. After all, you are backing these people that only state what you want to hear. You don't have the brains to wait and see if its true or not, but would rather blow smoke. You have jumped on every Democrat band wagon, from the riots at the primaries, recount, Russia,and will be Comey. PHONY!

    From: Woods Walker
    14-Jan-17
    Maybe....but he IS entertaining! You've got to give him that.

    Just understand this people....josh is BEYOND any kind of reason. Any attempt to engage him on that basis is impossible. It'd be like one of us trying to teach our goldfish Mandarin Chinese.

    So just sit back and watch the train wreck!

    From: joshuaf
    14-Jan-17

    From: Bentstick81
    14-Jan-17
    Still waiting josh, where is your facts?

    From: elkmtngear
    14-Jan-17
    Josh, where are all the sexual predator victims that Trump viciously had his way with? They seem to have all faded away quietly after he won the General Election.

    My Crystal ball says the current batch of accusers does the same thing...watch all this quietly fade away after Inauguration. This is a last ditch effort by Dems and so-called "Conservatives", that can't deal with the coming reality of a Trump Presidency, or let go of their butt-hurt.

    From: joshuaf
    14-Jan-17

    joshuaf's Link
    From 2001 Trump call-in to Howard Stern show. Anecdotal, but seems relevant given certain information circulating in public the last few days.

    "He bangs Russian people"

    excerpt from the interview transcript (audio at link):

    “Meanwhile, he bangs Russian people,” Benza fires back at Trump.

    “Russian people?” Stern gasps.

    “Who are you talking about, Russian people, A.J.?” Trump quips dismissively. “I don’t know anything.”

    “He used to call me when I was a columnist and say, ‘I was just in Russia, the girls have no morals, you gotta get out there,'” Benza explains. “He’s out of his mind.”

    From: Bentstick81
    14-Jan-17
    Still waiting for your facts, josh. Once again, "0" Credibility

    From: joshuaf
    14-Jan-17
    "and so-called "Conservatives""

    The only "so-called" Conservatives are the ones blindly defending Trump at every turn and dismissing anything as "fake news" that isn't overtly positive about him.

    From: Bentstick81
    14-Jan-17
    "0" credibility

    From: Anony Mouse
    14-Jan-17

    Anony Mouse's Link

    From: joshuaf
    14-Jan-17
    Huh. Not the PM's of our best allies, Britain and Israel. He's going to meet Putin first. Weird.

    From: Woods Walker
    14-Jan-17
    C'mon josh, we all know that you'd criticize him if he met with the allies first and then Putin. Whatever he does you will criticize. If you can't find anything concrete...which you rarely (if ever) do...you'll just make stuff up and/or find some other lunatic that pulls "facts" from his a** and then post them as a tweet.

    We know your act well here Cleo.

    From: joshuaf
    15-Jan-17
    Drip, drip, drip.

    From the article:

    "It was set up after the director of the CIA, John Brennan, received a recording of a conversation about money from the Kremlin going into Trump's campaign coffers, the BBC's Paul Wood reported. The recording was apparently passed to the CIA by the intelligence agency of one of the Baltic States."

    From: Bentstick81
    15-Jan-17
    josh, "Drip,drip, drip." You don't have to tell us, we see you whine everyday. Its past the DRIP stage.

    From: Woods Walker
    15-Jan-17
    This is what happens to someone when someone's wrongmeter is stuck on boil over.

    15-Jan-17
    He's gone to an interview from 2001 with of all people, Howard Stern. Is this guy for real or does he do this to entertain us all. Tell me WW, if things are looking up after a couple years into this administration, will josh get on board or will he continue to root against Trimp just to please his massive ego.

    15-Jan-17
    Sad.........

    From: joshuaf
    15-Jan-17

    From: TSI
    15-Jan-17
    Now the intelligence community and spies are useing twitter!Now that's transparency.

    From: TSI
    15-Jan-17
    It's an online coup by those that prefer Anarchy!I haven't seen violence from the right like what's comeing from the left.Riots,burning,killing police officers,property destruction,insightment,Hate,fake news,kidnapping and live online assaults,accusations,and desire for Anarchy and marshal law!Sure hope sound minds prevail!

    From: joshuaf
    15-Jan-17
    Each time Trump's people say stuff like this they just make him look more guilty. What are they trying to hide. Sunshine is a wonderful disinfectant for corrupt politicians. The best way to "protect the public" is by protecting the "REPublic" by keeping corrupt, self-interested politicians out of office.

    From: Bentstick81
    15-Jan-17
    Once again josh, show some FACTS that Trump is corrupt? His past is his past. You have no FACTS as him being a corrupt politician, or POTUS, since he was voted the nominee.

    From: Bentstick81
    15-Jan-17
    Oh and also, "0" credibility, AGAIN. Keep hanging yourself. 8^)))

    15-Jan-17
    I listened to her this afternoon. I think Josh is so busy looking for a hint to support his opinion, that he is simply over looking this. Or, he is trying to blatantly mis-inform people. Of course he wouldn't lie about something. We all know that. He wouldn't blatantly do that to further his gain. Didn't he go out of his way and fabricate this emphasis last week when I was incorrect. Called me a liar. Yet, here he is doing something far worse. I just hope it is not knowingly doing so. That is lower than the lowest.

    God Bless men

    From: joshuaf
    15-Jan-17
    Lol at all the rending of clothes by the Trumpists about "leaks" now. Sure don't like it so much when the shoe is on the other foot, huh? I don't know where the leaks are coming from, but at least they aren't coming from our enemies the Russians via espionage.

    By the way, the original 35 page document from earlier in the week wasn't an illegal leak. It was produced by a foreign private intelligence firm. And a lot of these other articles coming out in the last few days are based on information from foreign friendly nation intelligence services, not from the U.S. IC.

    From: Shuteye
    15-Jan-17

    Shuteye's Link

    From: Bentstick81
    15-Jan-17
    FACTS, josh. Where are they? You are the one that is always telling people, to come back when they have hard FACTS, and you can't even show any. Once again, you hang yourself, with "0" Credibility, and FACTS.

    From: Bentstick81
    15-Jan-17
    One thing is for sure, the Democrats don't have to go around, making accusations about Trump, and make a complete idiots, out of them selves. They rely on people like Pelosi, Sharpton, and of course, you josh, to do it for them. You guys are a dime a dozen. 8^)))

    From: joshuaf
    16-Jan-17

    From: joshuaf
    16-Jan-17

    From: Bentstick81
    16-Jan-17
    Oh boy! Captain Clueless is back.

    From: joshuaf
    16-Jan-17
    Yeah....about that. It's actually the other way around. And of course Putin would say that, he hates NATO. NATO's the primary blockade in the way of Putin's desire to reconstitute the USSR.

    From: Bentstick81
    16-Jan-17
    No FACTS again, Captain Clueless. I am starting to agree with others. Liar does come to mind. Other way around? You are the one that keeps hanging yourself. We get the enjoyment of watching you fail. "0" credibility.

    From: Bentstick81
    16-Jan-17
    josh, are you sure that its not "Sky is the limit news", for suckers like you to read, and post, so you can make fools out of yourselves. Boy, you are definitely way out there, Pluto man. They enjoy people like you.

    From: Bentstick81
    16-Jan-17
    josh," other way around". Lets see josh about that quote. You made predictions, and said things about Trump that hasn't come true, makes you clueless. Posting opinions, claiming for facts, that makes you clueless. Bashing Trump on things, that hasn't been proven, and in some cases, have been proven to be false, makes you clueless. Guess what clown, these are FACTS, that you created against yourself, there fore, you get the CAPTAIN CLUELESS award. "0" Credibility again.

    From: Woods Walker
    16-Jan-17
    Then it's torches and pitchfork time! Guillotines on the mall!

    From: joshuaf
    16-Jan-17
    "Point being that, if & when he does do something that we don't fully agree with, then whatcha gunna do?"

    If this recent election campaign is any indicator, many of you will simply "change" your positions to newly conform with his.

    From: joshuaf
    16-Jan-17

    From: Bentstick81
    16-Jan-17
    Solo," The stance josh has taken is downright stupid in every way." Exactly. One thing josh has proven, is he will shake your hand, while stabbing you in the back, with the other. I was raised to identify people like him. I have no respect for someone, (josh) that would try to get people to vote for hillary, knowing full well that she would've destroyed this country. I really feel sorry for his kids. If he would help get hillary in as POTUS, jeopardizing there safety and future, just think of the road he sends them down, everyday? Unbelievable! Captain Clueless, with "0" Credibility.

    From: joshuaf
    17-Jan-17

    From: BowSniper
    17-Jan-17
    Being open to a more positive relationship with Russia is not automatically bad, it solely depends on what is agreed to in any deal. Rather have detente with Russia to focus more on ISIS, China, Iran, and N. Korea... wouldn't you??? Obama/Hillary hit the reset button, gave away our missile defense and got nothing in return. They tried to oppose them in Syria and failed, only arming more Islamic rebels. The election came down to Hillary or Trump. Josh must still wish Hillary had won because he certainly does not wish Trump did! Meanwhile, while Josh and the other 'nevertrump' liberals are wringing hands about Russian hacking, the Chinese stole 22 million records from OPM and are building a fortress to claim the South China Sea. And Obama just let 116 metric tons of uranium ship to Iran (after a billion in cash and gold) to make sure Trump can never reverse that shitty deal. So by all means, keep Russia on the front page as the intended distraction. Maybe we won't notice more terrorists leaving Gitmo. Maybe Obama can pardon Bradley Manning or even Bergdahl. I am sure Josh will find a tweet blaming Trump for that, too.

    From: Bwana 2
    17-Jan-17
    Josh is the type of guy that gets out of the shower to take a piss!

    Josh, it won't be long and you can get back on your meds, they will be affordable soon!

    From: Woods Walker
    17-Jan-17
    But at least he showers. It's bad enough that his prognostications are wrong, imagine if he smelled too!

    From: bad karma
    17-Jan-17
    I don't know how anyone here can know who is telling the truth. It may be Russians, it may be the Chinese, or it may be some fat guy in a basement in Baltimore.

    From: Woods Walker
    17-Jan-17
    Or a Lagavulin! ;-)

    17-Jan-17
    The thing that i simply don't understand is the notion that it isn't good to be happy that Clinton didn't win. I never will understand why it isn't ok to be relieved that we have someone geniunely interested in advancing America, Christian beliefs, and equal representation of the 1st Amendment. Someone we can work with.

    Instead, dingbat has to keep insisting Trump is a king, that our voices don't matter with our representatives, and we are doomed. His house must be a lowly place.

    God Bless men.

    From: joshuaf
    17-Jan-17
    "geniunely interested in advancing America, Christian beliefs, and equal representation of the 1st Amendment."

    Guess I slept through the results of the election. You can't be talking about Trump on all those issues unless you've joined Trax in working for Trump's Ministry of Propaganda.

    From: joshuaf
    17-Jan-17
    Trump has not proven he is in this for any reason other than to enrich his family and his business empire. However, if we were to give him the benefit of the doubt and concede that he is in this to "advance" America, does that mean that his approach and his policies are beyond reproach? Some of the worst dictators, authoritarians and despots in world history no doubt had as their motivation to "advance" their country. The question is, "advance" it to "what"? Do you honestly think it wasn't Obama's intention to "advance" America? Maybe he didn't want to "advance" it in the same way you do, but I'm quite sure he wanted to "advance" it the way he thought correct. If Trump wants to "advance" America, that doesn't mean his ideas to do it are Conservative, Constitutional, or Correct. He has already given a strong indication that those are not his primary benchmarks for a successful Presidency.

    Also, it is not the job of the President to advance "Christian beliefs". I am a Christian, but Trump has not shown any indication he is, and even if he was, his job is to uphold the Constitution. Period.

    Lastly, if you're talking about the media, there is already "equal representation of the 1st Amendment". Trump would actually like the opposite of that. He is very eager to stymie and silence those media outlets who are critical of him. That is the exact opposite of "equal representation of the 1st Amendment".

    From: Bentstick81
    17-Jan-17
    josh, with that last reply, you just proved your stupidity is growing. Boy, Obama has got you right where he intended, and you took it hook, line & sinker. You can't make this stuff up. 8^)))

    From: HA/KS
    17-Jan-17

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    From: Woods Walker
    17-Jan-17
    What he said! ^^^^^^^^

    From: Woods Walker
    17-Jan-17
    I not only have zero trust in the Obama administration, but that also applies to just about all media too.

    From: joshuaf
    18-Jan-17
    Trump says that the Enquirer is a great news source, should have won a Pulitzer. Is this Real news or Fake news?

    From: Bentstick81
    18-Jan-17
    Funny you should ask that josh. " Is this Real news or Fake news?" That's the same question we ask about your news, that you put on here. I would say that the National Enquirer, has you beat, as far as Real news. Hands down, and that's bad.

    From: BowSniper
    18-Jan-17
    Funny, but I recall our hypocrotocal Josh being opposed to the National Enquirer when they ran a story about Cruz being an unfaithful cheater who was whoring around on his wife, or the story placing Cruz's father close to Lee Harvey Oswald. I guess if you would sell out your country to support Hillary, you would easily sell your integrity for the 'nevertrump' movement.

    From: joshuaf
    18-Jan-17

    joshuaf's Link
    "FBI, 5 other agencies probe possible covert Kremlin aid to Trump"

    From article:

    "The BBC reported that the FBI had obtained a warrant on Oct. 15 from the highly secretive Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court allowing investigators access to bank records and other documents about potential payments and money transfers related to Russia. One of McClatchy’s sources confirmed the report.

    Susan Hennessey, a former attorney for the National Security Agency who is now a fellow at the Brookings Institution, said she had no knowledge that a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant had been issued. However, she stressed that such warrants are issued only if investigators can demonstrate “probable cause” that a crime has been committed and the information in Steele’s dossier couldn’t have met that test.

    If, in fact, law enforcement has obtained a FISA warrant, that is an indication that additional evidence exists outside of the dossier,” she said."

    From: joshuaf
    18-Jan-17
    "Funny, but I recall our hypocrotocal Josh being opposed to the National Enquirer"

    I'm not promoting that Enquirer headline as true, just asking for input from the True Disciples of Trump as to whether we should believe it or not, since Trump himself set the benchmark that the Enquirer was a reliable news source, and the True Disciples of Trump were more than happy to go along with that at the time since it helped their candidate. Since the headline promotes the idea of secret dealings between Trump and Russia, I'm just giving the True Disciples an opportunity to state whether or not they have "changed their mind" about the reliability of news reports from the Enquirer, in light of this story.

    From: BowSniper
    18-Jan-17

    BowSniper's Link
    "Evidence ouside of the dossier" - but the dossier has already been deemed completely fake... other than to buzzfeed, CNN, and the ever desperate nevertrumpers. The dossier even names the Trump confidant as Cohen who can prove he was never in Prague with his passport! It's as fake news as this Enquirer story you posted because I'm pretty sure Trump can prove he doesn't take weekly trips to Russia for a vodka summit any more than Putin comes here on a weekly basis. Fake news for the same group of dummies that would believe the earth is only 6000 years old. Right Josh??

    From: Bentstick81
    18-Jan-17
    Careful Bowsniper, the little whine bag josh will put you on his "no answer" list. 8^))) Boy, who knows what he will come up with next. Hard to tell. Josh keeps on reaching, and reaching. And we wonder whats wrong with America, today? I give you Captain Clueless. 8^)))

    From: BowSniper
    19-Jan-17
    If you are a religious zealot from the magical 7th mountain turned 'Nevertrumper' it's far easier to believe ANY anti-Trump nonsense than in general earth science like carbon dating, dinosaurs, ice ages, millions of years of erosion creating the grand canyon, etc.

    From: Bentstick81
    19-Jan-17
    Just wait til Trumps Inaugural speech tomorrow. josh will find something in it to whine or bash about. It's a given. He will be crying all through the speech.

    From: Anony Mouse
    19-Jan-17
    josh won't listen to Trump's speech...he'll comment on the synopsis from CNN or some tweet he read.

    From: Anony Mouse
    19-Jan-17

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