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Evangelicals Are Sticking with Trump
Contributors to this thread:
slade 12-Sep-17
Pi 12-Sep-17
Woods Walker 12-Sep-17
Spike Bull 12-Sep-17
Sixby 12-Sep-17
Tiger-Eye 12-Sep-17
JTV 12-Sep-17
Spike Bull 12-Sep-17
Atheist 14-Sep-17
Mike in CT 14-Sep-17
slade 14-Sep-17
Mike in CT 14-Sep-17
Rocky 14-Sep-17
Spike Bull 15-Sep-17
Tiger eye 15-Sep-17
trublucolo 15-Sep-17
bowbender77 16-Sep-17
Anony Mouse 17-Sep-17
Sixby 18-Sep-17
From: slade

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Except for our bitter disillusioned faithless Seven Mountain Nationalists who are still crying in their Wheaties....

September 12, 2017 Why Evangelicals Are Sticking with Donald Trump By Trevor Thomas

The Never-Trumpers of every stripe still don’t get it. Ten months after his historic defeat of Hillary Clinton, those opposed to Donald Trump -- whether from the political right, left, or middle -- have yet to grasp why so many Americans -- especially evangelical Americans -- have embraced, or at least tolerate, the politics of the Man from Manhattan. As my wife (and chief editor) pointed out when I began this piece, “It’s really a no-brainer. There was no other option.” But nevertheless, to those dulled by their disdain for Mr. Trump, let me explain again our continued support for him.

First, let me make this abundantly clear: as passionate as we are about our politics, we understand well that the cure for what ails this nation, and this world, is as far above politics as the north is above the south. Dwight Eisenhower put it well when he declared, “Never let yourself be persuaded that any one Great Man, any one leader, is necessary to the salvation of America.” Thus, when we pull the lever, or tap the screen, for any man or woman, for any political office, our expectations for what they can or can’t accomplish are always tempered by the notion that our real problems are spiritual and require spiritual solutions.

Of course, such thinking stands in stark contrast to those who have put their hope in the things and the people of this world. As I’ve noted before, the left is so devoted to politics and political power because that is the chief means by which they hope to make the world into their idea of “heaven.” Virtually every dictator to rise to power has done so by promising some version of a leftist utopia. The twentieth century is replete with such tragic examples.

Is there any doubt that the biggest reason those on the left are throwing a seemingly never-ending temper tantrum over Donald Trump’s ascent to the White House is because Mr. Trump stands as an obstacle to their utopian dreams? In spite of bitter opposition in the U.S. Congress -- as much as can be mustered given the Democrats’ historic losing streak -- the liberal media, and an inability by congressional Republicans to unite on a conservative agenda, President Trump is doing much to stymie the perverse left-wing agenda.

This is especially true with the federal courts. As Legal Insurrection noted a few weeks ago, month after month -- to the tune of dozens of nominees -- President Trump has consistently appointed conservative judges. And as William Jacobson pointed out just prior to Mr. Trump’s inauguration, President Trump could end up appointing half of the federal judiciary. Thanks to the “Reid rule,” Democrats can do little to stop him. The little Democrats can do, they are persistent in, using, as U.S. News reports, “every procedural tactic they can to block [Trump’s] judges.” The GOP-controlled U.S. Senate needs to get busy making sure these conservative nominees actually make it to the bench.

Using jurists who imagine themselves lawmakers -- and who reject the Laws of the Law Giver -- the courts have long been a favorite tool of the modern left. Thus, it has often not mattered whether U.S. liberals win elections; with the aid of the courts, their evil agenda still gets enacted and enforced. This is why the power of the U.S. president to appoint federal judges is more important now than perhaps ever before in American history. That alone is reason enough to have voted for Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton. However, there were plenty of other reasons as well.

Again, in today’s political climate, few things are as certain as this: Virtually every crazy policy, corrupt courtroom ruling, or depraved piece of legislation that plagues our political climate is a product of modern liberalism. Whether killing children in the womb, stifling small businesses, legally redefining the oldest institution in the history of humanity, legalizing and promoting a wide variety of sexual immoralities, criminalizing (or attempting to criminalize) the life-blood of American industry, criminalizing Christianity, decriminalizing illegal immigration in order to help maintain a “permanent underclass” of potential voters, stealing money from one group of constituents to buy votes from another, and so on, liberals and their lackeys in the Democratic Party, the courts, the mainstream media, Hollywood, and academia have used their political, judicial, information, and entertainment powers in manners most perverse.

Thus, political power, especially political power in the most powerful nation on earth, is no small matter and should never be taken lightly. That is why when we vote, we always do so prayerfully.

Along with his solid efforts at remaking our courts, President Trump has already done much to support a pro-life, pro-family, pro-America agenda. His Department of Justice has reversed the Obama administration’s efforts to undermine biology and religious liberty. An executive order reinstated and expanded the “Mexico City policy” which prevents foreign groups who promote and provide abortions from receiving U.S. aid funds.

Trump and his EPA are shredding the foolish Obama climate agenda. “Slashing red tape at historic levels,” while saving billions in regulatory costs, the Trump administration has ended hundreds of Obama-era economic regulations.

None of this -- not one single bit of it -- would have happened in a Hillary Clinton (or virtually any other Democratic presidential) administration. Whatever Donald Trump is, he is not Hillary Clinton.

From: Pi
Excellent .

From: Woods Walker
"Whatever Donald Trump is, he is not Hillary Clinton."


Right on, right on!

the president is not the problem anymore. It's the dems in congress that need to go.

From: Sixby
We need to get rid of the Dems and 3/4 of the Republicans. Drain the swamp. Donald Trump understands that to be a great president of the USA is to be the president of the people. Not a socialist and not taking from but making the economy and the lives of the people better. It is awsome to have a president and the majority of his cabinet acknowledging Christ instead of saying this is not a Christian nation. God bless, Steve

From: Tiger-Eye
"the president is not the problem anymore. It's the dems in congress that need to go. "

You betcha!! starting with McCain, McConnell, and Ryan!!

I like most of the republicans.

From: JTV
The GOP is pitiful, there is only a handful that are worth their salt ...Trump continues to do a good job, considering the problems with the GOP...

Agree with Sixby and JTV.

From: Atheist
Get rid of anyone that disagrees w trump? Isn't that the antithesis of a democracy? Are you asking for trump to be one your autocratic ruler? How can you ask for a government with only one party?

From: Mike in CT
The beauty of a Constitutional Republic is that representatives can be "gotten rid off" via elections; net zero in terms of head count but potentially sizable gains in terms of functional ability.

Civics should definitely be required in High School; too many illiterates out there......

From: slade
""too many illiterates out there......"" and on here.....

From: Mike in CT
An excellent point!

From: Rocky
The coarse side of that cloth of beauty is that the names and faces may change but all else remains the same, the frustration of the people. The new representative while campaigning is full of piss and vinegar thumping his chest like a Silverback until elected. Once elected the piss goes directly down the toilet and their new party waiting with open arms, deposits JUST enough oil on our new and latest crusader adding to his vinegar which begets, as always, "dressing". The hamster is on the wheel 24 hours a day 7 days a week, we never close and the cycle continues. Voting never has nor ever will win elections. Money and power ride that wheel and the hamster will continue forever to keep it spinning in the hope that they are the deciders of their own fate. This ridiculous system has been proven fractured yesterday, today and will continue without missing a beat tomorrow.

The Rock

While much if that is true, Rocky, you leave little room for hope and no room for determined people! WE made this country and we can remake it. We have the right and the duty to do so. They are NOT omnipotent! We are well over 300,000,000, they are perhaps 1 or 2 million!?! And many of their ranks and even tbeir enforcers believe what we believe.

From: Tiger eye
The belief that our representatives represent us is a fallacy. They represent money. Until we get campaign reform, term limits, and reign in lobbyists, we will be stuck with the same old pile of spoor known as congress

actually, I mostly against term limits. I like the politicians that represent me to know what they are doing.

From: trublucolo
Once again atheist rolls out his ignorance - "How can you ask for a government with only one party?"

Ask your friends in California and Illinois.

From: bowbender77
atheist = TROLL !!!

From: Anony Mouse
Big Government Is The Faith For People Who Lost Their Religion

The Lid: With the setting of the sun, this coming Wednesday (9/20) through Sunday, Jews across the world will begin the observance of the “Yomim Noraim “(Days of Awe), a ten-day period that is book-ended by the High Holy Days of Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur. What most people don’t realize (and what liberal Jews will not accept), The theme of the High Holidays is antithetical to the big government principals of liberalism and progressivism. So are the principals of other religions. One might say that big government is the faith for people who have lost their religion.

The Jewish High Holidays are all about personal responsibility. All the prayers and readings are just tools to help us look inward, formulate a personal accounting of our deeds over the past year, good and bad, and to understand what we have learned or need to learn to correct.

Even the method of atoning for our sins goes against progressive values. Jews are taught that our Maker is not a big massive government that will fix everything for us. For earthly type mistakes, we must first approach the people we harmed to request forgiveness and if necessary, make restitution to them. Then we must discover what led us to behave that way and correct the flaw catalyzing such behavior. Only then can we approach God for absolution.

It’s not that God cannot fix everything but his direct involvement would destroy the delicate balance he set up during creation. MORE

From: Sixby
God simply wants a relationship based on free choice. He will eventually call an end to what is happening in this world by completely destroying the wicked and ruling with a rod of iron and righteousness for 1000 year over the entire world inhabitants during which time Satan will be bound and cannot tempt the peoples. Point is that He does not do this until most of the world is already given over to sin and Baal worship which is the sacrifice of humans. Today that is embodied in aborition and governmental war brought on by greed and hatred of right. This is declared by scripture which says that day shall not come until that man of sin be revealed. He that has wisdom let him know that the number of a man is 666. Simply put this is non necessarily one sinful man but could well be all sinful men and sinful to a point where they will hate and refuse all good and all of God . Mans number in general is 666 and God's number is 777.

God bless you all, Steve

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