Democrat or Republican, he was seriously screwed up and has been for a very long time.
ISIS is claiming he converted to Islam a few months ago, yet the evidence we have to date show his hatred and dementia to goes back far beyond that timeline.
Have been told I am retarded , gosh I hate that word , we say special . Not sure what team I am on , Love Jesus , my wife and kid, the USA, my parents, and life in general.
Pat awarded me the extra "n" for overall contributions... ;o)
So many questions unanswered...wrong dates of reservation, multiple vehicles, travel history... I can easily see that this event will have questions that will keep conspiracy theorists with lots of materials for years.
Sadly, our government has a record of keeping information sequestered.
When someone acts abnormally, drugs are always a consideration. I saw it reported he had been prescribed Diazepam for anxiety. I have no idea if that could have been a factor. Obviously many take it without resulting in planning and executing a massacre.
The scariest conclusion to this horrific incident, obviously other than the people who were slaughtered and injured, would be that after all the facts are known and assessed, that we STILL don't have any idea of his motive.
When someone does a mass killing and praises Allah as he does it or otherwise makes a statement about it (verbal or otherwise), at least we know the "why" part....as crazy as it may be. Yes, the victims are still just as dead and injured, but like a bad hit you make on a deer at least you can LEARN something from it and use the knowledge to help prevent something like that from happening again. If you can't then it's a double tragedy.
Diazepam, qualudes, Valium same thing. normal brain function, which may result in slurred speech, shallow breathing, sluggishness, fatigue, disorientation and lack of coordination or dilated pupils. Higher doses cause impaired memory, judgment and coordination; irritability; paranoia; and thoughts of suicide. Some people can become agitated or aggressive. Using prescription sedatives and tranquilizers with other substances — particularly alcohol — can slow breathing, or slow both the heart and respiration, and possibly lead to death.
Mix that with alcohol and no telling what someone could do. Many people get on mind controlling meds and then stop. Bad things can happen. Self medication by mixing drugs and alcohol or increasing doses are dangerous too.
I don't know what but I know who motivated him. Saten. Probably concieved within the Obama Presidency so that when Hillery won this would happen and she would immediately push for complete disarmament . The shooter or shooters may have just gone through with the plan to see what would happen. But pure evil was behind it all. Body count never mattered to socialists as long as they get what they want. These are God-less, lawless murderers and this is a war being carried out by powers, principalities and spiritual wickedness in high places./ Trump was a gift of God Himself and turned their plan upside down. Hense the intense hatred and vitriol coming from the left.
If he was just wacko and acted alone, motive isn't a big deal. Whatever twisted reasoning he had died with him. If he wasn't crazy or didn't act alone, motive means a lot. Premeditated murder is usually done for a reason. Financial gain, revenge, a cause, etc.. First question is who benefits.
I'm not a conspiracy guy, but I also know that people have no problem killing other people over things far less important than gaining political power or control. Millions of people have been killed in the quest to grow or maintain political power or further an ideology. We seem to have an easier time understanding a guy killing another guy over a $200 drug deal gone bad.
There are pics of Paddock at a Sanders rally. Good indicator. KPC. Your attitude is not worth commenting on except for the fact that you are not able to get the tenor of what I write. I'm neither that deep nor that ignorant. You simply wish to express your superior intellect. In doing this you fail to impress or encourage decent conversation.
Kevin, before I got to high and mighty about this, I believe I'd check myself if I were you. On a turn note, I'll add that if you truly believe that this and, most other actions were simple coincidences of madness, you are the wack job you accuse others of.
THERE are ZERO coincidences in these actions. ZERO. What truly inspired it was evil. What's behind that evil is unknown at this point. But, to constantly claim critical thinking as your defense over others that are looking for the answers, makes the joke on you. There has to be a reason these actions keep happening. There has to be a reason that the "shooter" picked the weapons he did. The time he choose. Nothing about this is an accident of results. I know it makes you comfortable to insinuate other wise but, no matter the cause, it has a reason. And, so far, Steve's theory makes a lot sense to anyone willing to realize that everyday, thousands of people die worldwide because someone wanted them too for a personal, political gain. And, Americans are no longer exempt from these actions due to what sixby stated.
We have never been exempt. The murder rate in America has dropped a lot in the last 30 years. We are about at the same rate we were in the 50s. Doesn't make these mass shootings any less tragic but it seems most folks think the odds of being killed are climbing and way higher than the past. I suppose reporting that we are getting safer or status quo doesn't boost ratings.
Kevin, I do not know anything about the examples you just quoted. However, I watched several initial news reports saying that the guy's facebook page showed his convictions to Bernie, the political left, and any thing anti Trump. But, guess what, his facebook page is no longer available to determine that. Is that true? I don't know and, may never due to not having access to see for myself. I also understand that his page has been removed from facebook according to news reports. Is that true? I think so. Many reports have stated that. WHY would that happen? I'm not a conspiracy nut but, there is reasons these things have been removed. And, being the investigators are begging for leads here, it wasn't for the integrity of the investigation.
I find your assumptions of being the critically thinking person here incomplete, because it appears to me that you are ready to digest anything other than the fact this guy could very possibly acted on the behalf of a political interest. I summarize that isn't the case at all due to your refusal not to analyze everything but, to basically discredit anything at this point is not critically thinking. I understand your examples as reason to discredit the claims you did. But, I don't recall Steve ever making the assumptions you exampled. And, I for one do not put one single thing past a political power financed by the people she has been financed by. Her deeds. Her willingness to compromise her character.
And, I find this unexplained mass shooting, conducted by an otherwise ignorant individual concerning his weapons choice, at a very convenient time for the left, just to random for its own good. If this guy had truly wanted to kill people as he "insinuated" with this action, with his financial means, he could have killed millions much more effectively. I could go on as to other reasons I am leaning this way in my own mind. But, the point is made. No one knows Jack Squat right now. And aside from the ridiculous, nothing is off the table.
2. A man named Stephen Paddock died from a gunshot would in the room at the Mandaly Bay hotel where the gunfire came from.
3. A security guard was wounded by shots that came through Paddock's room door.
4. Nancy Pelosi and Diane Feinstein went into an orgasmic coma from the joy of knowing that they had 59 fresh graves they could dance on to promote gun confiscation.....and they didn't even wait until there were actual graves to dance on!
And that's it. We need Sherlock Holmes for this one.
Did Steve imply any of these examples you used? Or, were you just expressing how ridiculous you thought his train of thought was?
FWIW, I wasn't basing that on Slade's post. I was basing it on FOX news. Like I said, we really don't know do we? I haven't heard it in a week or so. But, I haven't been looking for myself because at this point, all we will know is what the investigators want us to know. Which seems to be changing daily. I'm not suggesting their are ulterior motives for that. But, I'm not going to be blinded by just taking press reports, approved for public consumption, as being the gospel.
Do you have some insight to the investigation privy from the rest of us? If not, what you are doing is no different than any one else at this point. Albeit, it might be with a little more discretion but, exploring options none the less. So, we are back where we began. We are all looking for the answers. And, all any of us have to work with to derive our train of thought, is what someone with security clearance thinks we deserve to know.
I'm not picking on you. I actually admire your ability to be critical of any and all angles, in every topic. However, I have watched you make these claims over and over while using no better "facts" than those you are critical of. We simply do not know what is going on. And, basing any opinion of this shooting, solely on what you can find about it on the internet, doesn't elevate yours above anyone else's at this point. God Bless
Interesting that such an intelligent being that is so enlightened that he can call names is so blind that he cannot see question marks. I wonder? That is not a statement indicating fact. It is a question. This said, I watched the sheriff attempting to have a mental breakdown today and shifting his eyes all over the place. What in the world is going on? Are they going to change the story every day while they like KPC attack the questioners and refuse to answer. I might see a conspiracy because the last time I saw a cat it had four legs and a long tail and purred. This horrible murder is looking like a conspiracy because the leos are making it look that way. God bless, Steve
No, I didn't think you made them up. I asked a question. A question I certainly couldn't answer by critically analyzing this thread. A question that was derived by not knowing what was said in another thread. Don't take offense to someone asking you to defend your position. Because you have zero problems doing the same to others. And, no one is above that. God Bless
You seem unable to admit any wrong. I said there are questions and I punctuated with question marks. The pics I saw of the staged room with the guns ect show the room number either blacked out or taped over with black tape. If a room was staged it would not be the real shooter room. This would mean that there is a lot in the real room that is not available to public. That would be the idea of staging a room. Would it not?
Unless the FBI final report provides all the evidence and information collected, this shooting may well be another chapter in the book of conspiracies aka the Kennedy assignation..
Don't you LOVE PEEPS that lay back and ridicule and shoot down EVERY theory WITHOUT forwarding a plausible one of their own? We are waiting for YOUR theories whilst we get ZERO Intel out of the MSM OR YOU!! patiently waiting . Taking a VERY DEEP breath.....YOU!!!!!! ARROGANT ASSHOLES....TELL US.....WHASSUP? Edify Us... mad Dog
I wouldn’t call it critical thinking beacuse there is a modus opperandi. Crtitcal thinking is pure in nature and typically operates outside of group status. Every group has a handful of people that still want to belong to the group but they propose contrary or antagonistic positions. It’s purpose is part of the social ranking process within the group where knowledge and information are considered currency. True critical thinking may put you outside the group permanently and very few people can survive the social isolation. They typically leave to join another group. In the internet age you can find a pro or a con for almost any side of a topic . Absolutes are not debated often. People believe something first then go look for evidence to support thier position. There is always bias involved in that process. It’s a very complicated process to weed the bias out even scientifically.
Pardon us KPC & GG....it is such an honor to be in the presence of such erudition! How DARE anyone even TRY to debate you guys? So...tell us about the MENSA meetings. Mad Dog
Critical thinking can only be the modus in the absence of bias. The modus here is to make the other guy look stupid and elevate your knowledge currency. So you have a bias and therefore don’t meet the criteria of a critical thinker. You only look for enough information to accomplish that goal. A critical thinker only seeks truth or to push the possibility of truth closer on a given subject. I would call what you are doing is attempting to be more of pragmatic thinking. But just barely.
Not debating the right or wrong that’s between you guys. Debating critical thinking, to claim it there can be no bias is all. I don’t like conspiracy theories or group think either.
KPC , I never ever ever feel the need to prove anything to you. A question is a question. Those were questions I actually have. I feel no need to prove them , They are questions. Disprove them . As far as the room number is concerned the pic I saw was purported to be the room that was staged. Not the actual room of the shooting. The side was blown out and rifles laying on the floor and shell casings and the room number blotted out. My question was why was the room number blotted out. My answer to that is that it is not the shooters room but a staged room. It raises a question. Why was a room staged using different hangings., different furniture arrangement ect with the room number blotted out. The pic you show does not have outside damage and I make an assumption that it could be the shooter room or may not be. SAme assumption you would make on the other room. On the other hand you seem to be so argumentative that it gives the impression that you think yourself to be so superior to everyone else that you even want to argue about critical thinking. It comes on as being an anti social little man syndrome. Critical think that. You have time in your blind to do that. God bless, Steve
I do not drink any alcohol at all,. I do not take any drugs and for you to insinuate such is to indicate that you are so eaten up with your own pride and self indulgence that you think that anything you can do to put any other person down is ok. Its not, its an antisocial act. You sir are the loser. Big Period. You need to resort to name calling and insinuation. That is a losing side in any debate. Debate, something I hate and am not good at but something you not only love but make your own rules up as you go in order in any way to subject what you falsely percieve to be an adversary, Which I am not , on top of neither drinking or taking drugs. IMHO you are crossing some lines here and I'm done so you win. Again I do not need to beat you in a discussion like you seem to need to be a winner. So go , winner, Talk to yourself.
You make a point though you personally pointed it at me as a statement when I was actually asking questions I really had. As I stated , my fortey is not debating./ You win.
In all fairness KPC, the question mark doesn't make it a question about his posting, but his posting while drunk. May be semantics but that's the way I took. You insinuated he was drunk. Just sayin.
