Just once , please, just once and a big one at that.
Take it to the bank, the FBI/FISA docs are devastating for the Dems. The whole image of a benevolent Barack Obama they’ve disingenuously tried to portray is about to be destroyed. The real Obama, the vengeful narcissist, is going to be exposed for all to see.
— Dan Bongino (@dbongino) January 18, 2018
Hey Spanky, Mounting evidence on Trump? Do tell. Can't wait for Darla and Buckwheat to chime in. I'm always up for a good laugh
I hope the information on the crooked people in the FBI, Obama, Clinton and justice department gets out real quickly. The vast majority of people that watch TV are only hearing the lame stream media accounts of what is going on.
Matt
Matt
The swamp is not an easy environment to negotiate.
seriously, SF Gate led with Al Greenes attempt to impeach Trump....and you wonder why goofballs like atheist think like they do....they are inundated by fake news and don't know the facts.
As I understand it, the manner in which the surveillance is collected doesn't allow them to isolate only non-citizen communications. They wind up collecting thousands of communications that don't involve their suspects, then have to filter thru them. That has never balanced with our 4th amendment right against unreasonable searches to me.
I think FISA was hasty and reactionary legislation in the wake of 9/11. Once the feds were empowered with this overreach, they've become reluctant to give it up.
Matt
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The format of the link can be hard to follow, but it does present a theory based upon what we have seen...
FBI ‘Failed To Preserve’ Five Months Of Text Messages Between Anti-Trump FBI Agents
Somewhat convenient, wouldn't you think?
Via The Hill:
Former Attorney General Loretta Lynch knew well in advance of FBI Director James Comey’s 2016 press conference that he would recommend against charging Hillary Clinton, according to information turned over to the Senate Homeland Security Committee on Friday.
The revelation was included in 384 pages of text messages exchanged between FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, and it significantly diminishes the credibility of Lynch’s earlier commitment to accept Comey’s recommendation — a commitment she made under the pretense that the two were not coordinating with each other.
And it gets worse. Comey and Lynch reportedly knew that Clinton would never face charges even before the FBI conducted its three-hour interview with Clinton, which was supposedly meant to gather more information into her mishandling of classified information.
On July 1, 2016, as the Lynch announcement became public, Page texted Strzok:
Page: And yeah, it’s a real profile in couragw [sic], since she knows no charges will be brought.
There are other revelations within the text messages. But in the cover letter accompanying them, the FBI notified Congress that many additional text messages are missing. According to the FBI, its “technical system for retaining text messages sent and received on FBI mobile devices failed to preserve text messages for Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page from December 14, 2016 to approximately to [sic] May 17, 2017.”
The reason?
(M)any FBI-provided Samsung 5 mobile devices did not capture or store text messages due to misconfiguration issues related to rollouts, provisioning, and software upgrades that conflicted with the FBI’s collection capabilities. The result was that data that should have been automatically collected and retained for long-term storage and retrieval was not collected.
In a letter to FBI Director Christopher Wray sent yesterday, the head of the Senate Homeland Security Committee Ron Johnson, a Republican from Wisconsin, called the loss of records “concerning.”
They reference Attorney General Loretta Lynch’s decision to accept the FBI’s conclusion in that case and a draft statement that former FBI Director James Comey had prepared in anticipation of closing out the Clinton investigation without criminal charges.
In another exchange, the two express displeasure about the timing of Lynch’s announcement that she would defer to the FBI’s judgment on the Clinton investigation. That announcement came days after it was revealed that the attorney general and former President Bill Clinton had an impromptu meeting aboard her plane in Phoenix, though both sides said the email investigation was never discussed.
Strzok said in a July 1 text message that the timing of Lynch’s announcement “looks like hell.” And Page appears to mockingly refer to Lynch’s decision to accept the FBI’s conclusion in the case as a “real profile in courag(e) since she knows no charges will be brought.”
There’s no doubt Republicans want the public to see the classified memo. To get it out, they are studying a never-before-used procedure whereby House Intelligence Committee members would vote to make the memo public, after which the president would have five days to object.
If the president had no objection, the memo would become public after those five days. If the president did object, the matter would go to the full House, which could vote to overrule the president’s objections and release the memo anyway.
Republicans believe it is unlikely they would have to go that far; why would President Trump object to the release of a document allegedly showing that Obama administration officials abused the law in investigating Trump? But even if there were an objection, the feeling is the House would go ahead.
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“Shadowy” FBI Official Protected Obama After Unsecured Email Exchange With Hillary by Joshua Caplan
Additional text messages sent and received by disgraced FBI agent Peter Strzok were recently handed over to Congress, reports the AP.
Buried in the report are text messages between Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page discussing how hackers likely obtained an email exchange between then-President Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. The exchange was later covered-up by the FBI after the incident was removed from Comey’s closing statement on Clinton’s email investigation.
Terry
And that would be a BIG if....a real big one.
Not much! Minor bump or bruise.
Wake me up when the fan is spinning.
Thus explaining how the Congress voted to extend FISA before having access to this classified memo detailing abuses.
Fair enough. I still think most of Congress was aware of possible abuses, or the potential for them. Yet, that didn't stop a healthy majority on both sides of the isle from voting to reauthorize FISA.
Matt
This statement is erroneous!
It was never research. It was always fabricating and forging - never research.
Research implies a search for the truth. This was never about truth.
John Kerry Was Reportedly Briefed On The Steele Dossier
Daily Caller: As secretary of state prior to the 2016 election, John Kerry was briefed on allegations made in the infamous Steele dossier about Donald Trump, according to a new report.
It was reported last week by the Washington Examiner that congressional investigators have looked into the State Department’s role in handling the dossier, which was put together by Christopher Steele, a former British spy who was investigating Trump on behalf of the Clinton campaign and DNC.
On Wednesday, The Washington Post reported additional details on the State Department’s interactions with Steele and the dossier.
According to The Post, Kerry was briefed in late September or early October 2016 on information collected by Steele.
Jonathan Winer, who at the time served as the State Department’s Special Envoy for Libya, put together a two-page memo on Steele’s allegations that was provided to Kerry. more here
And since texts are most often even shorter than Twitter posts, they'll be subject to interpretation. Hell, we have a dozen different stories or more about what the "secret society" is....
John Kerry Told Palestinian Pres. To Ignore Trump, He’ll Be Out Of Office Soon
The Lid: Now that he’s out of office Obama’s Secretary of State John Kerry is continuing his anti-Israel endeavors, while possibly violating the Logan Act at the same time. Israeli Newspaper Ma’ariv reports that former secretary of state, John Kerry has sent a message to Palestinian Authority Pres, Abbas, “that he should stay strong in his spirit and play for time, that he will not break and will not yield to President Trump’s demands,” because Trump will be out of office within the year.
Ma’ariv has learned that former US Secretary of State John Kerry met in London a close associate of Abbas, Hussein Agha , for a long and open conversation that contained many headlines. Agha apparently reported details of senior PA officials in Ramallah. A senior Palestinian official confirmed to Ma’ariv this week that there had indeed been such a meeting.
Agha is one of Abbas’s closest associates and a veteran of peace negotiations with Israel. “He conducted the “London Track,” secret negotiations held from 2010 to 2013 between the emissaries of Netanyahu, attorney Yitzhak Molcho, and Brigadier General Mike Herzog, under the supervision and presence of Dennis Ross. Agha also authored with Yossi Beilin the Beilin-Abbas agreement in the 1990s.” Mr. Agha is a staunch supporter of the peace process, and very close to Abbas.
Per the report, John Kerry asked Agha to convey a message to Abbas “ask him to ‘hold on and be strong.’Tell him, he told Agha, ‘that he stays strong in his spirit and play for time, that he will not break and will not yield to President Trump’s demands.’ According to Kerry, Trump will not remain in office for a long time. It is a good chance that within a year he will not be in the White House.” more here
Sources say that Kerry's secret code name is "Boris"...
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- It’s no accident that this latest attempt to discredit the FBI and distract the public is happening at the same time special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe appears to be picking up steam – and focusing on possible obstruction of justice by the president.
- There are reasons to be very skeptical of this memo. The FBI hasn’t been sent a copy or given a chance to respond. Democrats who have seen it, including Rep. Adam Schiff of Burbank, say it’s full of inaccuracies and innuendo. And the social media campaign #ReleaseTheMemo may be promoted by Russian-linked bots, just as during the 2016 campaign.
- But now we’re supposed to believe some Republicans that there’s some kind of anti-Trump “secret society” within the FBI? It's ridiculous.
- Everyone – Republicans, Democrats, advocacy groups on all sides and the media – should do our democracy a favor: Stop with the hyperventilating and let Mueller finish his investigation and get to the truth. (That goes for the obsessed Bowsite CF clique, too. Especially JTV.)
I can recall doing something similar in my old engineering days. We had to go through great pains in my first job to call long distance, so when I had the opportunity to get a VP's long distance code, I made sure about 30 people had it. Problem solved....we could all make our calls and get work done, and it wouldn't point to me as the culprit.
The bureau recently told the inspector general that the messages were not preserved as a result of misconfiguration issues related to software upgrades of FBI-provided Samsung 5 mobile phones that conflicted with the bureau’s archiving efforts.
The Missing Texts Are About To Get the “Joe the Plumber” Treatment
What’s the “Joe the Plumber” treatment?
That’s when a tangential morsel of an event is overblown by the left and somehow it negates the real thrust of a story.
For instance, Joe the plumber became famous for getting Obama on a rope line-meet and greet to admit that he was going to “share the wealth.” (AKA – implement socialist policies.)
The left immediately dug into Joe’s background and discovered that he “wasn’t a real plumber.” Somehow, in the brain-addled leftist’s mind, this meant anything Obama said was negated.
“What’s that you say? Obama said he’s going to ‘share the wealth’? Pfffffft. That guy wasn’t even a real plumber!” – Dumba$$ leftist.
This time it’s going to happen to the FBI texts issue. We already know that two FBI employees, Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, exchanged extremely damning messages regarding the Mueller investigation and Comey’s investigation. The texts detailed possible corruption, conspiracy and obstruction of justice in the highest levels of the government.
Then it was announced that months of texts between Strzok and Page went missing, leading some to speculate that the FBI was engaging in a coverup.
But a new report is claiming that there’s proof that this was a bureau-wide “glitch” that affected thousands of employees, and there was no deliberate malfeasance.
So, what is Vox’s spin?
The entire text issue is complete bull$hit because it’s just all conspiracy theories that have now been debunked.
“Page said Loretta Lynch knew Hillary wouldn’t be prosecuted before Comey gave his infamous pre-election presser? Pfffft. we now know that the text’s weren’t purposely deleted. All your theories have been debunked!” – Dumba$$ leftist
That’s pretty much the tone of this VOX article, that the entirety of the text issue is much-ado about nothing now that Sean Hannity and his conspiracy theory hasn’t panned out (or so they say.)
The left is ridiculous.
The only spin that has yet to be used is "the dog at my homework" ploy.
Now that the four page memo is getting a lot of press, I've been able to learn more about what's behind all of this "**it hit the fan" stuff. It has become more and more apparent that it's little more than what the Sacramento Bee stated in their editorial - Rep. Nunes attempting to smear good men at the FBI as a way to undermine the Mueller investigation as it gets close to completing its work. Now THAT is a "timing issue" all Americans should pay attention to!
The entire memo was put together by Nunes staff at the direction of Chairman Nunes. Keep in mind Nunes' prior acts to try and manipulate public opinion on behalf of Trump. There is good reason to suspect the veracity of the four page report based on who put it together and their (previously demonstrated) political motives.
I'm still paying attention, and am open to learn what I can about the issues under debate. But, I've come to expect the four page Nunes memo will wilt under scrutiny everywhere except Fox News, Breitbart, numerous websites with conservative bias, and of course, the Bowsite Community Forum.
And here you (and others) are, JTV... ready and willing to besmirch the reputation of a good and decent man (Mueller) purely to support a horrible human being (Trump).
I predict nothing of substance will come of the Nunes four page report because it's nothing more than an inaccurate biased attempt at a hit job. And then, many of you here will simply morph the whole dismal debacle into yet another conspiracy theory... complete with plenty of stories on bat-**it-conservative websites you can provide ad nauseum links to.
Thankfully, it appears Mueller will complete his work soon. Then, we will know if Trump has serious problems to face, or not.
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Terry
That's the definition of a partisan. No credibility here, Jimbo. Wear it like a tattoo on your forehead.
JTV... I don't care about Obama or Clinton. If they did anything wrong, I hope they're caught, prosecuted and jailed. And, I hope to be able to say "President Pence" someday soon.
LOL... just because you guys want to label me as a liberal doesn't make it so. Though, I'm used to it.
Question... why all the worry about Mueller's report? He is clearly near completing it. Why is Nunes trying to undermine Mueller?
Also, just saw a Republican Senator say the "Secret Society" comment was made in jest... it was a joke. And, per Coyote's link, we will now learn what the text messages say.
These certainly are interesting times.
JTV, curious as to how you know everyone on Mueller's team and what their biases are? The only team members I know of were the ones who were fired when their political biases were uncovered.
What will be real interesting to me is how the IG report jibes with Mueller's report...
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So far all his time and money spent has been some process violations and nothing to do with what he is supposed to investigate. Revelations of events in his past (as posted here and in the news) do not tend to show his armor is as bright and shiny as the media and #neverTrumpists would have us believe.
Update to this story. Spoke of Trump in derogatory terms to the Palestinians. This is exactly what the Logan Act is supposed to prevent. (posted above)
And this...
IG Michael Horowitz Informs Grassley, Goodlatte and Nunes of FBI Text Recovery…
God bless, Steve
I don't have an opinion on what either will show, which should have been obvious. I indicated that I didn't automatically believe Hannity, which is in print. So you're wrong. I'm actually waiting to read either the documents or the documents and analysis from people that have knowledge of the system.
God bless, Steve
In fact, I do not recall ever seeing you ask for a transcript of the meeting on the tarmac with bill just before the hilary investigation was dropped.
I don't recall ever seeing you supporting the efforts to document illegal voting in American elections.
I also can't recall ever seeing you ask for full disclosure of Fast and Furious, or any other obama scandal that was glossed over by the leftist press and the Washington establishment.
"" Jimbo, learn the difference between opinion and analysis. My comment was that you think you already know what both reports will say, and you have NO possible inside knowledge of this. You're just a partisan hack, quit fooling yourself.""
Jimbo
""True enough, BK.
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No, don’t fire him. That way is boobytrapped. Instead, use your power as President to exercise control over him, in accordance with the rule of law.
Where there is smoke, there is fire. Somewhere, right now in Washington, there is a fire raging, just out of sight, but entirely out of control.
The fire is the unimaginable. Everything that is publicly known in and about Washington, and trumpeted by the so-called “mainstream” media, is actually the opposite of the truth.
Instead of Trump being guilty of obstruction of justice, and about to be bounced out of office through impeachment, it is actually the FBI, and President Obama’s Justice Department, that are guilty of obstruction of justice, with top figures about to be bounced into prison, or worse.
Instead of Trump being guilty of collusion “with the Russians” for help in defeating Hillary, it is Hillary Clinton who colluded with the Russians to try to defeat Trump. Hillary actually financed the Fusion GPS “dossier,” which served as the foundation for the FISA warrant authorizing espionage by the Obama Administration against the opposition party’s candidate for President.
Instead of Trump committing crimes that warrant impeachment and sending him to prison, it is Hillary Clinton who committed crimes that warrant sending her to prison. She is the one who sold out control over 20% of America’s uranium supply to Putin’s cronies, for $150 million in payoffs to the Clinton Foundation, in broad daylight as Obama’s sitting Secretary of State, in the biggest and most brazen corruption scandal in American history, by far.
That was in addition to revealing America’s top intelligence secrets by conducting her official business as Secretary of State on an unprotected email server that she should have known was subject to open access by foreign spies, which is a criminal violation of America’s intelligence laws.
Instead of Trump leading a fascist plot to take over the United States, it was the Crown Prince and Princess of progressivism, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, who concocted and tried to carry out the fascist plot for America’s intelligence agencies to overturn the duly elected President of the United States and remove him from office, through Obama’s illegal espionage against the Trump campaign. This is the first and only attempted fascist takeover of America in U.S. history.
Trump has prevailed, and, indeed, prospered, so far, only because of his larger than life personality. Now there is one master stroke left for Trump to play to drive the stake through the heart of this attempted fascist coup against America, led today by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, the only barely still functioning corporal in the fascist army.
Mueller’s boss, who originally recommended him for appointment, is Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who seems to be at the center of the fascist coup today. Trump’s essential master stroke would be to fire Rosenstein and appoint Rudy Giuliani as Deputy Attorney General in his place.
Giuliani would then be Mueller’s boss, with first-hand knowledge of whatever Mueller is doing, right or wrong. Giuliani would effectively be a Super Special Counsel, but operating within the Justice Department, in accordance with America’s Constitutional framework.
Giuliani knows what laws apply to professionals at the FBI and at Justice. After many years as the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, which covers Manhattan, Wall Street, and New York City, he knows how to proceed with preservation and collection of evidence, and prosecution of crimes. Expect an immediate exodus of all the Fascist coup co-conspirators, like cockroaches all scurrying about when the light is turned on in the dark basement downstairs.
Giuliani could also fire and replace Obama/Hillary co-conspirator Christopher Wray, current head of the FBI. Bring in former FBI Assistant Director James Kallstrom to replace him, a true patriot committed to restoring the integrity of the FBI.
Giuliani would know how to cooperate professionally with Trump’s appointed AG Jeff Sessions. He would actually be a great aid to AG Sessions, helping him to keep on top of the entire Department. Giuliani would know what materials can and should be released to the public, and how to do it legally.
History would record this one move as the beginning of the end of the fascist coup against America, and of the Trump resistance. The only question left would be what did Obama know, and when did he know it. Giuliani has the background to know how to uncover that as well.
Comey, Rosenstein, McCabe All Named In FISA Memo, First Leak Reveals
Ouch...need more popcorn.
The TV ratings would be a new world record.
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Just now: Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Grassley sends letters to DNC, HIllary for America, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Donna Brazile, John Podesta and Joel Benenson seeking docs re: Christopher Steele
— Max Kutner (@maxkutner) January 26, 2018
I'm told Steele & Simpson + the FBI & DOJ/NSD + even FISC are all gonna be in a world of hurt when this 4-pp memo + underlying docs hit the fan.
— Paul Sperry (@paulsperry_) January 26, 2018
Steele & Simpson are caught in a sh*tstorm of lies, which further tainted the FBI's FISA warrant to spy on Team Trump ...
CNBC reported:
Special counsel Robert Mueller’s staff has interviewed at least one member of a Facebook team associated with President Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign, according to a new report in Wired, which cited a person familiar with the matter.
The interview was part of Mueller’s Department of Justice probe into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election and what role, if any, the Trump campaign played in it, the report said.
The report comes a day after Facebook said, in written replies provided to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, that it found “insignificant overlap” between the targeting efforts of Trump’s campaign and that of a Russian propaganda unit called the Internet Research Agency.
Facebook also said in those replies, prompted by questions during a November 1 hearing on the matter, that it has been providing investigators, including those in Congress, with information it has regarding the scope and nature of Russian information operations.
That echoed a September post from CEO Mark Zuckerberg, who said the company had shared what it had found with Meuller’s probe.
“We are actively working with the U.S. government on its ongoing investigations into Russian interference…When we recently uncovered this activity, we provided that information to the special counsel,” Zuckerberg wrote then.
This is worth saying THREE times!
God bless, Steve
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Where is Rev Wright and Obama ? Mad Dog
As far as pelosi, she is a bumbling idiot that I would trust to flush a toilet. Bitchbcrazy
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Terry
A big question I still have - if the story about the first FISA request being rejected is true, did they (create) add the dossier at that point??
