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From: slade
22-Jan-18

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Put this in your bong and smoke it Bowlibs.

Unsealed FISA Court Ruling Shows 85% of Obama’s FBI and DOJ 704-5 FISA Searches Were Illegal and Illegally Provided to Government Outsiders

From: Woods Walker
22-Jan-18
The only laws that Obama and his Democrat brothers care about enforcing are the IRS laws.

And we're supposed to trust them................NO %$#@ING WAY!!!

From: slade
22-Jan-18

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“Shadowy” FBI Official Protected Obama After Unsecured Email Exchange With Hillary by Joshua Caplan

Additional text messages sent and received by disgraced FBI agent Peter Strzok were recently handed over to Congress, reports the AP.

Buried in the report are text messages between Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page discussing how hackers likely obtained an email exchange between then-President Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. The exchange was later covered-up by the FBI after the incident was removed from Comey’s closing statement

From: slade
22-Jan-18

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BREAKING: Thousands of New Strzok-Page Text Messages Reference “SECRET SOCIETY” Within DOJ and FBI WORKING AGAINST TRUMP (VIDEO)

According to Attorney General Jeff Sessions, 50,000 text messages were exchanged between Peter Strzok and his mistress Lisa Page. These 50,000 text messages do not include the ‘missing’ texts.

Rep. John Ratcliffe (R-TX) said after reviewing the new text messages he believes there may have been a “secret society” of folks within the DOJ and FBI working against Trump.

From: Shuteye
22-Jan-18
Sean Hannity had a great show tonight and pointed out the whole thing. I don't see how a bunch of people aren't going to jail. Sarah Carter says she knows people in the FBI and they say the missing text messages can be found or it can be shown who deleted them.

From: slade
23-Jan-18
Rumors out there Director Christopher Wray is refusing to fire McCabe so McCabe can retire with full benefits. Let's not forget 6 months of text's disappearing, Wray needs to go.

From: slade
23-Jan-18
Comey pulled a Bill Clinton.

23-Jan-18
Such a great movie, Dirty Rotten Scoundrels

From: slade
23-Jan-18

""[05:12] “It makes it harder and harder for Chairman Gowdy and I to explain away one strange coincidence after another”. ""

""Hmmm? Now, why would Roosterhead want to “explain away“? LOLOL. These UniParty knuckleheads are so transparent. THIS is why they are not part of the current team.""

From: Bentstick81
23-Jan-18
Our PHONY A$$ dem backers, got quiet, in a hurry. When you LIE, and your only goal is to stir the $hit, and you hang yourselves, with your own ignorance, SILENCE is all you have left. Quite comical watching STUPID people. 8^)

From: Annony Mouse
23-Jan-18
A long read (with internal citation links), but well worth reading as it lays out the timeline (again) of the corruption of federal agencies by Obama and company:

Donald Trump’s election saved this country. Here’s how

Article concludes:

"...It is my opinion that Obama’s act to allow the NSA to share more communications was an effort to undermine the Trump administration. And once again, evidence has been mysteriously lost. What’s really interesting about that is the period during which the Strzok texts are missing ends on the day that Rosenstein appointed Mueller as Special Counsel.

Barack Obama put his finger on the scales of Justice and tipped them in favor of Hillary Clinton and against Donald Trump. He has weaponized and corrupted the IRS, the DOJ and FBI for political aspirations. There is little reason for Americans to have faith in the integrity of these institutions. Obama has presided over a gargantuan abuse of the Constitution, US law and of American ideals. It is the worst conspiracy in the history of this country. And we would have never known any of it had Hillary Clinton won as was expected. Had she won, this abuse would have become both buried and concreted by democrats into the system. Politically this country would have become the Soviet Union."

From: Annony Mouse
23-Jan-18

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As the saying goes, "What did Obama know and when did he know it?"

From: slade
23-Jan-18

From: slade
23-Jan-18

From: slade
23-Jan-18
On the day after the election, FBI official Peter Strzok and senior FBI lawyer Lisa Page, his paramour, discussed how they could undo the damage they did in the Clinton investigation, Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) revealed on Fox News Tuesday morning.

From: SJJ
24-Jan-18

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From: slade
24-Jan-18
The Sessions Justice Department is calling on House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes (R-CA) to allow the FBI to review the “shocking,” FISA abuse memo to ensure its release will not harm national security.

From: slade
25-Jan-18
Dirty Cop Andrew McCabe and Peter Strzok Coordinated to Blindside General Flynn

From: slade
25-Jan-18

From: Thumper
25-Jan-18
Could very well lead to civil war, LWL's are just not going to give up their power inside our Govt.

From: Annony Mouse
25-Jan-18
FISA Court Ruling: 85% of Obama’s FBI and DOJ [704 and 705 ]FISA Searches Were Illegal

GWP:A Report was released in April of 2017 that received no publicity until recently.

The report was a ruling on the results of an investigation or audit into FISA searches made by Obama’s FBI and DOJ during Obama’s time in office. The report shows Obama’s FBI and DOJ participated in widespread criminal searches and criminal sharing of data with non authorized entities outside of government.

On April 26, 2017, an unsealed FISA Court Ruling unveiled a number of criminal activities that Barack Obama’s FBI and DOJ participated in during his time in office. The report to date received little attention. Now interest is brewing due to the recent actions of Congress and the report that is expected to be released in the upcoming weeks.

The FISA Court Ruling shows widespread abuse of the FISA mandate. According to the report,Obama’s FBI and DOJ performed searches on Americans that were against their 4th Amendment rights. This went on for years. One paragraph in the report states that 85% of the Section 704 and 705(b) FISA searches made during this time were non-compliant with applicable laws and therefore criminal.

FISA 705 warrants deal with US citizens outside of the country. MORE

From: slade
25-Jan-18

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The Daily Beast reports:

A controversial Republican memo alleging surveillance abuse specifically names FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein along with former FBI Director James Comey.

From: Annony Mouse
25-Jan-18
Michael Flynn was entrapped by an FBI agent with an ax to grind

On January 24, 2017 Michael Flynn was interviewed by the FBI. He was a victim of entrapment.

Two people familiar with the matter said Trump was unaware that Flynn had spoken with the FBI until two days after the interview took place. An attorney for Flynn did not respond to a request for comment on this story.

A brief phone call from the office of Andrew McCabe, the deputy FBI director, to a scheduler for Flynn on Jan. 24 set the interview in motion, according to people familiar with the matter. The scheduler was told the FBI wanted to speak with Flynn later that day, these people said, and the meeting was placed on Flynn’s schedule. The scheduler didn’t ask the reason for the meeting, and the FBI didn’t volunteer it, one person familiar with the matter said.

Later that day, two FBI agents arrived at the White House to speak with Flynn. A lawyer for the National Security Council typically would be informed of such a meeting and be present for it, one person familiar with the procedures said. But that didn’t happen in this instance, and Flynn didn’t include his own personal lawyer, two people said. He met with the two federal agents alone, according to these people.

“No one knew that any of this was happening,” said another senior White House official who was there at the time.

“Apparently it was not clear to Flynn that this was about his personal conduct,” another White House official said. “So he didn’t think of bringing his own lawyer.”

He didn’t bring a lawyer, which made the job of inducing Flynn to incriminate himself a cinch. The motivation to do so by at least one of the interviewers was more than apparent.

The interview was kept secret for two days.On December 1, 2017 Flynn pleaded guilty to one count of lying to the FBI. Flynn was charged with lying about doing something that was entirely legal.

The charge to which retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn has pleaded guilty may tell us a great deal about the Robert Mueller investigation.

The first question is, why did Flynn lie? People who lie to the FBI generally do so because, if they told the truth, they would be admitting to a crime. But the two conversations that Flynn falsely denied having were not criminal. He may have believed they were criminal but, if he did, he was wrong.

Consider his request to Sergey Kislyak, the Russian ambassador to the U.S., to delay or oppose a United Nations Security Council vote on an anti-Israel resolution that the outgoing Obama administration refused to veto. Not only was that request not criminal, it was the right thing to do. President Obama’s unilateral decision to change decades-long American policy by not vetoing a perniciously one-sided anti-Israel resolution was opposed by Congress and by most Americans. It was not good for America, for Israel or for peace. It was done out of Obama’s personal pique against Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu rather than on principle.

“He may have believed they were criminal”

Indeed. And given the interviewer, it would shock no one to learn that the agent led Flynn believe it was criminal. The interviewer had “unfinished business” and needed to “protect the country” from Donald Trump with an “insurance policy.”

“Now Gen. Flynn, it would look really, really bad were you to have talked to the Russians about sanctions, wouldn’t it? That could go really bad for you. Did you talk about sanctions with any Russians?”

Flynn was had and Strzok, fresh off writing Comey’s exculpation of Hillary Clinton, knew exactly what he was doing. One cannot help but notice that the the texts between Strzok and his paramour are missing for this critical period.

Clearly, Flynn was a step on the ladder to eventually ensnare Trump and force him from office for the crime of defeating Hillary Clinton in the election. Let’s be honest- Trump has been framed. The problem for the FBI now is that this is fruit of the poisoned tree. Not only was Strzok biased but his bias affected his performance. Flynn was entrapped. The conviction should be thrown out of court.

Exit question: If they’re missing, how does anyone know that there are 50,000 texts missing?

From: Sixby
25-Jan-18
Because they never were missing? Only answer I have been able to come up with. Just another nail in the coffins of the JD and FBI. Talk about obsfucation and collusion. The only give up the info when forced to/ They are desperate to hide this all from the people. Why? Rhectoric question. Answer: The only way to ever have faith in these departments is to remove all people that have a bias toward either political party. Especially the Democrats that Obama loaded into every agency and into the military. God bless, Steve

From: Woods Walker
25-Jan-18
"Answer: The only way to ever have faith in these departments is to remove all people that have a bias toward either political party. Especially the Democrats that Obama loaded into every agency and into the military."

YES! A nuclear enema of the first order! Clean....uh....HOUSE!

From: Annony Mouse
25-Jan-18
From: slade
26-Jan-18

From: Sixby
27-Jan-18
Hannity missing after threats on his life/ Not seen by anyone and Fox will not comment. Protective c ustody or hit job? God bless, Steve

From: Annony Mouse
27-Jan-18

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27-Jan-18

'Ike' (Phone)'s embedded Photo
'Ike' (Phone)'s embedded Photo

From: slade
28-Jan-18

From: Sixby
28-Jan-18
Evidently Shawn was missing because he said I'm back and everything is fine. Did not make any explanation but thanked every one for prayers and concern. God bless, Steve

From: Annony Mouse
28-Jan-18
GUESSING AT FISA REDACTIONS: Well, this is certainly an interesting coincidence

(Note: link contains internal links)

We know for a fact that the Obama DOJ and FBI illegally unmasked American citizens before and after the presidential election. It is also obvious that President Trump and his close associates were among the targets of this unlawful surveillance.

We know this because the declassified version of a FISA court ruling states, among other things, that the "FBI gave raw Section 702–acquired information to a private entity that was not a federal agency and whose personnel were not sufficiently supervised by a federal agency."

Which private entities were unlawfully given raw surveillance information about the Trump camp? We can't yet tell because the key graphs are redacted:

I figured it was possible to guess the names of the redacted entities using the Senate Judiciary Committee's document demand it issued on Thursday [PDF], which spells out certain groups of interest.

Check out this interesting "coincidence":

Now, if these "un-redactions" are accurate, the Hillary Clinton campaign, the Democrat National Committee, President Obama's "Organizing for America" all seem to ahve conspired with the FBI to first fix the result of the presidential election and -- when that failed -- to invent a way to remove Trump from office.

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

This is the greatest scandal in American history. These are police state tactics, plain and simple.

Unless all of these traitors are held to account, the future of the American republic is at risk.

From: Annony Mouse
28-Jan-18
From: Shuteye
28-Jan-18
Looks like Mueller is getting into it and redacting some of the information. Next week should be a fun week for information releases.

From: slade
28-Jan-18

From: slade
29-Jan-18
FBI “Lost All” of McCabe Text Messages Before He Was ‘Removed’ from Agency – Refused to Turn Them Over – A Week Before He is “Removed” from FBI

From: slade
29-Jan-18
SWAMP STRIKES=> New Acting Deputy Director Replacing Andrew McCabe Previously Worked With Comey to Hide Clinton-Lynch Tarmac Meeting From Press by Cristina Laila 300 Comments

FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe has “stepped down effective today,” reports NBC News.

FOX News correspondent Catherine Herridge reported on Monday that FBI Director Christopher Wray viewed the explosive FISA memo this weekend.

It appears McCabe is the first victim of the FISA MEMO.

The swamp immediately struck back. The new Acting Deputy Director of the FBI replacing Andrew McCabe, David Bowdich worked under Comey. In fact, he may be a witness in the ‘Trump-Russia’ investigation because Comey had a conversation with him about Trump asking the former FBI Director to supposedly ‘back off its probe into General Flynn’.

Even worse, Bowdich was involved in the Clinton-Lynch tarmac meeting conversations with Comey as they scrambled to hide the scandalous meeting from the public.

From: slade
30-Jan-18

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Rod Rosenstein Is Shirking His Duty to Supervise Robert Mueller

From: slade
30-Jan-18

From: slade
30-Jan-18
Former US Attorney: IG Report Shows McCabe Made FBI Agents Fabricate Evidence – Implicates Obama’s Senior DOJ Officials

PJ Media reports:

“I have been told tonight by a number of sources … that McCabe may have asked FBI agents to actually change their 302s,” Carter told host Sean Hannity.

The 302 form contains information from the notes an FBI agent takes during an interview of a subject. It is used by FBI agents to “report or summarize the interviews that they conduct.”

“So basically every time an FBI agent interviews a witness, they have to go back and file a report,” Carter explained.

Hannity pointed out that, if true, it would constitute a case of obstruction of justice, and Carter agreed. She said the matter was being investigated by FBI Inspector General Michael Horowitz.

“If this is true — and not just alleged — if this is true, McCabe will be fired,” Carter said. “They are considering firing him in the next few days. If this turns out to be true,” she added.

From: slade
31-Jan-18

From: slade
31-Jan-18
Oh Lordy – FBI Director Wray Sent “Counterintelligence Official” To Review Memo Prior to Committee Vote… Posted on January 30, 2018 by sundance

Well, well, well… Snap. This is an interesting development, potentially quite explosive, and, perhaps, stunningly affirmational.

According to Catherine Herridge, after Chairman Nunes personally took FBI Director Christopher Wray to view the “Intel Memo” on Sunday night, and prior to the House Intel Committee vote to release the memo Monday evening, FBI Director Christopher Wray sent a Main Justice official and a “counterintelligence official” to view the content.

According to her report, those officials: “could not point to any factual inaccuracies.”

From: slade
31-Jan-18

From: bigeasygator
31-Jan-18
“According to her report, those officials: “could not point to any factual inaccuracies.””

That doesn’t seem to jive with the FBI statement that came out today, where they said “we have grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy.” It’s worth noting that the FBIs concerns have nothing to do with sources and methods, but seems to arise from the fact the memo is based on cherrypicked information that doesn’t tell the whole story. This is from the Trump era Director of the FBI, not some holdover from the Obama era, so help me understand the motivations here.

From: Coyote 65
31-Jan-18
Wouldn't you say something like that if you were about to get your butt handed to you?

Terry

From: Anony Mouse
31-Jan-18
Bigeasy...

Context eludes you far too often. The accuracy of the memo was not called into question. The objection raised today was the potential exposure of intelligent methods used by our government.

Two separate issues: facts(true) and how those facts were discovered (methodology).

And, of course, there is the fear of exposure by the upper echelons of the FBI and DOJ.

From: Grey Ghost
31-Jan-18
I'd like to read both Nunes and Schiffs "secret memos". I'm betting both are ripe with partisan assumptions and conclusions.

Matt

From: Atheist
31-Jan-18
How about let’s stop disparaging our finest intelligence agencies. Again the conman has succeeded in having his minions discount the credibility of the fbi and CIA. Why? So when their findings are made public, his base will have bought into the narrative that trump wants them to have. Specifically that he’s always right and everyone else is wrong or fake. It’s crystal clear. The fact is the agents all have political parties they support. It does not preclude them from doing their jobs. Never has, never will.

From: Bentstick81
31-Jan-18
atheist. You are full of $hit.

31-Jan-18
Just Breaking News: FBI agent Peter Strzok played a key role in the decision for James Comey to send a letter to Congress about the bureau’s investigation of newly discovered Hillary Clinton emails days before the election, costing her the election. Hmmmm 1) If Strzok was in the tank for Hillary Clinton, why would he want to reopen the Clinton email investigation days before the election? that doesnt sound like a guy who wanted to help Clinton or who is trying to sabotage Trump. It was AFTER the release of that memo that her poll numbers started to drop....significantly.

Welp, so much for that conspiracy eh? On to the next one!!

From: Sixby
31-Jan-18
smoke and mirrors God bless, Steve

From: Bentstick81
31-Jan-18
atheist, Crying us a river. PRICELESS! 8^)))

From: bigeasygator
31-Jan-18
Anony, did you even read the FBI statement? Again, they said nothing about sources and methods. Here it is, in its entirety.

“The FBI takes seriously its obligations to the FISA Court and its compliance with procedures overseen by career professionals in the Department of Justice and the FBI. We are committed to working with the appropriate oversight entities to ensure the continuing integrity of the FISA process.

With regard to the House Intelligence Committee’s memorandum, the FBI was provided a limited opportunity to review this memo the day before the committee voted to release it. As expressed during our initial review, we have grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy.”

Having “grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy” is speaking directly to concerns related to the factuality of the memo, not where those facts came from. Why would the current director, who released the memo, care about covering his ass over alleged abuses that happened before his watch? Looking more and more like a partisan hit job.

From: Shuteye
31-Jan-18
Of course the FBI doesn't want it released, it blows up the Russia, Russia, Russia investigation. Now the democrats are saying the memo has been changed and isn't the one the committee voted on. It was changed by the white house to satisfy the FBI.

From: bigeasygator
01-Feb-18
“yet it is all factual as stated by the FBI .....”

Lol!! Show me where the FBI has come out and said the memo is factual. The only official statement I’ve seen from the FBI basically said the memo paints an inaccurate, incomplete picture (their words, not mine).

I’m all for the memo being released. But when the individuals supplying the info upon which the memo is based say it’s not the whole story, I’d like to understand what’s missing. When the writers of the memo vote to suppress the other side’s version of the story, it begs the question of why.

From: Jimbo
01-Feb-18

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From the FBI:

"we have grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy."

But, hey... why let something like MATERIAL OMISSIONS OF FACT get in the way. LMAO

Please, Mr. Trump... do release the memo... this is going to get very interesting.

From: tonyo6302
01-Feb-18
This from the same FBI that could not find anything to charge Hillary with?

.. ..

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Nice try, Jimbo.

From: Jimbo
01-Feb-18
What you guys think is going to help your cause is going to end up doing exactly the opposite... the ultimate backfire. I give you points for consistency... you'll rationalize anything or anyone who supports your political views... even if it means trashing the reputation of a true patriot like Mueller to support the likes of Nunes and Trump.

When this whole thing falls apart and rightfully smears the Nunes Gang, what are you going to say and do then? Will it then become your latest conspiracy theory?

The Nunes Gang Report reeks of extreme bias and manipulation... yet (some of) you guys still support it. Incredible!

From: bad karma
01-Feb-18
The initial reaction from the FBI was that release of the memo would impact national security. That narrative has been changed to "material omissions" which is ironic given that the FBI has been stonewalling Congress for over a year when Congress has asked for information. It would not surprise me to find that the material omissions are the fault of the FBI in the first place.

And yes, the memo should be released, and much more. They work for us, and there are serious concerns about FISA abuse.

From: Grey Ghost
01-Feb-18
What's ironic to me is that a republican president and a republican congress are trying to discredit a republican FBI and a republican DOJ.

I'm now reading the soon to be released Nunes memo has been edited from the original one that was given to congress. Surely copies of both will be preserved and compared.

Also, why not release Schiffs rebuttal to the "memo"? Isn't the objective to find the truth? Rarely does the truth come from one side's version alone. Refusing to release the other side sends the message this is just a political smear tactic to protect the president.

Matt

From: Shuteye
01-Feb-18
Schiff's memo has to go through the same procedure that Nunes' memo went though. It's the rule. Also Schiff is complaining that Nunes' memo is not the one they voted on, it has been changed. That is because the white house let the FBI look at the memo and made minor changes for the FBI. The memo will come out today and we will all get to see it.

From: bad karma
01-Feb-18
If the changes are factually correct, I'm not seeing why this is such a big deal.

The issue is FISA abuse under the Obama administration. Last I checked the FBI and DOJ are comprised of a lot of career employees and a handful of appointees, so the idea that it is a Republican DOJ and FBI is an attempt to distort, Matt.

Rebuttal can come out at a hearing.

From: elkmtngear
01-Feb-18
Haven't heard anyone on the Dem Side,who has read BOTH memos, deny the FISA abuse. They deflect, and try to spin the Nunes Memo as just another "distraction from the Mueller investigation". This FISA abuse constitutes weaponizing the DOJ/ FBI with intent of sabotaging a Presidential campaign. Watergate pales in comparison. Can't wait to confirm it with my own eyes.

From: Grey Ghost
01-Feb-18

...so the idea that it is a Republican DOJ and FBI is an attempt to distort, Matt".

Fair enough, Kevin. I should have said "republican-led" FBI and DOJ. After all, both agencies are led by republicans who were hand-selected by Trump and confirmed by a republican Senate.

Matt

From: slade
01-Feb-18
Why not release Schiffs, you mean the one, no one saw or or voted on, because it's made up drivel?

From: bigeasygator
01-Feb-18
I’m certainly not arguing against there being holdovers from previous administrations, but doesn’t the ultimate authority lie with the Director of the FBI and his superiors at the DOJ? I am struggling to understand what loyalty the current DOJ/FBI leadership, all appointed by Trump, would have to the previous administration. If Wray and Rosenstein and the others are aware of abuses under the former administration, what motivation would they have to keep that suppressed?

From: slade
01-Feb-18
""House Intel Committee Releases Monday’s Mtg. Minutes – Schiff Admits to Secret Contact with FBI Chief Chris Wray""

""P16 – Rep King (R) moves to “disclose publicly” the FISA memo

P18 – King claims that “contrary to claims made in the media, this committee has been transparent with the FBI”. Reps Nunez and Gowdy provided FBI director Wray a copy of the FISA memo on Sunday and shared memo with 2 senior FBI employees on Monday before the IC meeting. The Rep King states –

There are moments in our history when full transparency is required so that all Americans can understand what their government has done. After all, this is the American people’s House, and we work for them.

Having carefully balance the need to keep the information secret with the need to inform the public, I have concluded that this matter requires us to disclose the information in the memo to the American people.”

P19 – Chair states that he believes FISA memo was properly vetted with no classified information.

P20 – Schiff states that he talked with FBI Director Wray [privately] and states Wray wants to come before the Committee to state his concerns with the FISA memo [Why did Wray share this only with Schiff? When did this secret meeting or discussion take place and who else was present?] Schiff makes a motion to delay releasing the FISA memo.""

From: slade
01-Feb-18

From: Grey Ghost
01-Feb-18
"Why not release Schiffs, you mean the one, no one saw or or voted on, because it's made up drivel?"

Have you read it? How do you know it's drivel? Do you know that Nunes memo is any less drivel? Or are you just being a insincere political hack?

Matt

From: slade
01-Feb-18
Your party claims they have a memo which know one has seen or much less voted on, they have refused release it and yet here you are frothing at the mouth claiming others are insincere political hacks.

Really? When you are the spineless progressive who disappeared during Obama's tenure and came slithering back as soon as a republican was in office.

Tell us all hat , who did you vote for in the last 10 Presidential elections.

From: Grey Ghost
01-Feb-18
So, I'll take that as a no, you haven't read either memos, and calling Schiffs memo "drivel" is just you being your usual partisan hack. No surprise there.

I don't owe you any answers to my personal voting history, nor am I inclined to share that info with you. But, I do appreciate your interest.

Matt

From: Annony Mouse
01-Feb-18
From: BowSniper
01-Feb-18
Seems to me the memo is going to point out FBI/DOJ volations from the previous administration, specifically in using the anti-trump 'dossier' to obtain a FISA warrant to wiretap the political opposition. And the argument being made about missing info and accuracy is they want it to say 'dossier and more' used to get the FISA warrant. Not just the dossier alone.

And the current republican led DOJ is trying not to destroy the reputation of the entire organization over the acts of a few bad apples. However it seems like those few bad apples were actively trying to subvert the presidential election process, so this is really big news if true!

Just my wild ass guessing at the moment based on the known tidbits. BUT let's see the memo and find out already!

From: bigswivle
01-Feb-18
I'd like to know if the highest levels of our law enforcement systems used there power for political gains. Seems that would be important for both sides

From: bigeasygator
01-Feb-18
Bowsniper, that seems to be the read I’m getting. Essentially, the memo makes it seem that the dossier was the sole source upon which the FISA was obtained, even though much of the dossier wasn’t corroborated. The omissions that make the memo inaccurate are all the other sources that went into the FISA warrant. As I understand it, the dossier was part of an extension to the original warrant, which was approved based on other sources (some of which corroborated the dossier). The FISA warrant process seems to me to be fairly rigorous from the anecdotal evidence I’ve seen, which makes it unlikely that if the dossier was the only source of info a warrant likely wouldn’t have been granted.

From: BowSniper
01-Feb-18
This 'investigative action' should not just look at the dossier's role in the FISA warrant.... but how this dossier (a known piece of biased and salacious political opposition research with foreign sources) was treated as if a legitimate piece of US intelligence, delivered and distributed through the FBI and sitting US Senators, all the way to a Presidential briefing, and then on to evidence at a FISA court.

Who knew it was fake and still moved it forward as if real??? THOSE are the deep state subversives that need to be exposed and removed from their gov't positions.

From: TD
01-Feb-18
My understanding is the original warrant request was DENIED. Only something like 1% of requests are denied, so it looks like whatever they went in with was pretty weak. We'll see what they went out and scraped up and cobbled together more stuff to reapply, finally getting it. Seems pretty obvious the phony azz "dossier" played a YUGE part in getting the warrant. And we get back "well...... it wasn't the ONLY thing we had....."

Seems the biggest "collusion", "obstruction of justice" and flat out lies and cover-ups are on the actions of our own highest government LAW enforcement agencies (pause and think about that for a second) on behalf of the Obama/Clinton cabal. That's sure what it's looking like, the way the facts are stacking up. And the lights have just now turned to them and the curtain being pulled back. There are still the Clinton emails, DNC corruption, Uranium pay to play, etc. Maybe she'll find more missing files in the kitchen.......

My guess is this is just the tip of the iceberg.

From: Shuteye
01-Feb-18
The FBI and DOJ want the names removed. Hell no, we want to see the names.

From: Sixby
01-Feb-18
GG:Have you read it? How do you know it's drivel

Why not hold your hands up in front of your eyes and say I can't see?? Could the answer be , Because a Demon Cra- cannot put out anything else but drivel. How can you support such a wicked agenda as full term abortion. Sodomite, pro queer agenda, open borders, fundamental change of our country? Everything about the party is lies, obsfucation, and extreme wickedness, Can't you see that Matt?

God bless, Steve

From: Grey Ghost
01-Feb-18
Steve,

Try to pay attention, if you are capable of pulling it away from Fox News for a moment.

I haven't once commented on the accuracy of the "memo", or on anything concerning the memo for that matter. Why? Because I haven't read it, and I refuse to buy into the speculation of others who know just as little as I do. It's called knowing what I don't know. You should try it some time.

As for what agenda I support, you don't have a clue on my position on any of those issues. At least have the sack to admit that...or don't...I don't really care.

And spare me with your pretentious blessing. I don't want to know the God you worship. You convinced me of that long ago.

Now run along and drink some more koolaid before it gets sour.

Matt

From: Atheist
01-Feb-18

From: Bentstick81
01-Feb-18
atheist. You crying again this evening? Your fan club has left. You was really anxious to find out something about Trump, from mueller, now you don't seem to anxious. The FBI is like you. They, and you have proven to all of us, that you guys LIE, and can't be trusted, therefore hanging yourselves, daily. You are doing nothing but whining your a$$ off. PRICELESS! Another delusional, dumba$$ democrat. You guys are all the same. Oh, and by the way, you are a LIAR and a FRAUD.

From: Grey Ghost
01-Feb-18
And the CF bro-mance continues. So cute.

Matt

From: Beendare
01-Feb-18
Oh man it has to be tough being a Democrat right now. I feel sorry for the working man Dems that actually believe these bung hole Dem politicos have their best interests in mind. Think about it;

Trump has done more for the avg working Dem the Obama did in 8 years.

Trump is bringing back jobs and leveling the playing field with other countries. Trump asks the question; Why should we be supporting these other countries when they berate and work against us?

Why not keep these dangerous terrorists locked up when they are sworn to die fighting against us and killing innocent US citizens?

Dem politicians won't even stand and pay tribute to our soldiers...or join in an America first' campaign. They are fighting Trump policy at every turn.....

I ask myself why.....and the Joe Democrat rebuttal gave it away. They want the avg American struggling....upset about their condition....and reliant on their gov philosophy so they can wield power.

The corruption really accelerated with Obama, and all the while the Clintons were controlling the party behind the scenes. We will see that in the coming months when the avg FBI agent and avg gov folks aren't afraid to speak the truth.

Yep, the Dem party is nothing like it used to be when I was a kid. The Dem leaders allowed it to be corrupted. But of course instead of praising Trump for putting the truth out there....oh forget it....Sheep like Athiest will never be able to reason through this for themselves.

From: Bentstick81
01-Feb-18
GG. You and your brother, atheist are two peas in a pod. You are not sick at your stomach, after typing that, are you??? 8^) Thought you were done chatting with me? atheist has got you where he wants you. He comes on here, stirs the shit, knowing you will come to the rescue. PRICELESS! I hope that i didn't upset your precious little belly? Now lets see GG, the delusional dip$hit democrat, spin his reply. 8^))))

From: Michael
01-Feb-18

Michael's Link
I hope this memo is a good one for all the press it’s getting. Better yet if any of it’s true I hope Justice is served.

From: Thumper
01-Feb-18
Democrats are scrambling to stop the release of the memo on what the DOJ found, looks like Trump has them by the short and curlies. I hope he breaks their necks!!!!!!!!!!!

From: BowSniper
01-Feb-18
How long before we see Clapper's name leak out as a part of this anti-Trump conspiracy of the Deep State?

From: Annony Mouse
01-Feb-18
Democrats’ #ReleaseTheMemo Hysteria: “If you’re not catching flak, you’re not over the target”

The hysterical bleatings of Democrats who are in the final stages of dealing with a political earthquake are entertaining, to be sure. Among the assertions:

• The pencil-necked recipient of -- reportedly -- a mysterious $7.8 million, Adam Schiff, says that House Intel Chairman Devin Nunes modified the FISA memo. Retreating from the matrix, we find that Nunes corrected a few typos and redacted a statement based upon an FBI request;

• The Wicked Witch of the West (Nancy Pelosi) wrote Paul Ryan demanding that Nunes be removed from his chairmanship;

• An MSNBC analyst asserted that Nunes is a Russian agent;

• Jerrod "Jabba the" Nadler has asked for an emergency meeting with the FBI to somehow stop the release of the memo.

Yes, this is what passes for informed debate on the left side of the aisle. The reality is quite simple.

If the memo contained an unending series of falsehoods -- say, like a Michael Wolff book -- no one would be freaking out. They would simply ridicule the bogus assertions using facts, logic, and reason.

But because the FISA memo's documentation is comprehensive, factual, and damning, Democats and political operatives in the executive branch are completely freaking out (video here).

What is at risk is not only the Obama "legacy", which will turn out to be the most insidious, disastrous and anti-American administration in history. Gun-running to Mexican cartels? Weaponizing the IRS against political opponents? Handing nukes and cash to Iran? Hey, those were only the appetizers!

As for the memo itself, Monica Crowley asserts that "This is the first of several memos. As bad as bad as this memo might be, my understanding is that there is worse coming down the pike."

House Intel Democrat Eric Swalwell just said the Memo release will “torch every floor of the FBI.”

Pssst. Nanc, maybe Swalwell is a Russian agent, too.

From: Bentstick81
01-Feb-18
I saw where comey is getting testy now. Hmmm. pressure is building. 8^)))

From: Annony Mouse
01-Feb-18
Obviously Nervous James Comey Flips Out Hours Before Memo To Drop, Compares Situation To McCarthyism

Dan Rather tweets:

Dan Rather ?Verified account @DanRather Jan 30

In my line of work I’ve come across many people with something to hide. And I have found, generally, that those who lash out the most are usually those who are most afraid about having the truth revealed.

Wonder why the Democrats and their government agents in the FBI and DOJ are in such a panic? Several sources today have said that the release of this 4 page memo is just the tip of the iceberg and more is going to come out. If the memo is as upsetting to the Democrats as they are showing, this could well be the beginning of the end of their party. Further reports say that the field agents are upset not with the memo's revelation, but the actions of the appointed high officials who have brought this cloud over the agency. The FBI and DOJ both need to clean their septic problems to bring their agencies back to respectability.

All roads lead to Obama and his weaponization and politicization of our government. Remember that Eric Holder when head of the DOJ stated that he was "Obama's wingman"...open admission that justice was to be subverted to protect and promote Obama's agenda.

From: zeke
01-Feb-18
JTV said "they did so, suggested some changes/redacts made as to keep some concerns about methods used from becoming public" If those methods were illegal or even questionable then those methods should be made public. As for the Directors being Trump appointees, does it matter in the least who appointed them if they are dirty. Seems it would lend more credibility to the Republican charges if those charged were Republicans. No one can say partisan politics as usual.

From: Annony Mouse
01-Feb-18

Annony Mouse's Link
Contrary to what the media wants people to believe and low level thinkers opine ( Atheist (Paul Z), Ryan from Boone (Paul Z), et. al.), Wray was shocked when he read the memo...and McCabe was immediately asked to resign. McCabe had originally scheduled his retirement for March.

From: BowSniper
02-Feb-18
If you guys get a chance, listen to the Mark Kevin show from last night with guest host Dan Bongino (the ex-secret service guy). He put some stuff out there I had never heard before, that made a LOT of sense!

Like how Mike Rogers NSA guy came to see him at Trump Towers about 10 days after his election (about how long it would take for pres-elect to boost SS footprint and add the standard electronic counter measures to his security). After that meeting Trump immediatelt moved operations out of there to NJ. Never had a meeting there again. And Obama's people (Clapper among them) recommended Rogers be fired. Sounds like Rogers told Trump the Towers were bugged!

From: BowSniper
02-Feb-18

BowSniper's Link
As the memo gets released, lets compare back to THIS news story... and see if Clapper and Comey are busted or not!!

From: Hunting5555
02-Feb-18
BowSniper, that is exactly what happened. That is when Trump came out and said he was being spied on.

Sarah Carter said last night that this 4 page memo is only 10-15% of the stuff Trump has on the criminality that has been occurring over the last few years and the rest WILL be coming out.

Hannity gave some insight into what may be coming for Jim Comey in the future when he said "James, here are some words you need to remember in the coming weeks, You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law...."

From: TD
02-Feb-18
Book em Danno.......

From: Sixby
03-Feb-18
GG. The God bless you is not pretentious. It means I would really want everyone to be blessed by my God whom you claim to despise. That God is the Way, The Truth, and the LIfe. He is the creator of all things both in Heaven and on earth. He is Love, He is integrity and He is faithful. How can you reject that? Why would you reject Him? I serve the living God who is able to deliver and save from the uttermost and free us from the destruction of sin and hate. Would you rather I say God hate you? I cannot do that. Its not who I am. I believe and hope that you know that and will seek and find God for yourself and this is why I say God bless you at the end of each of my posts. God is real. I know that. I do not believe it, I do not think it. I know it.

God bless you, steve

From: BowSniper
03-Feb-18
The REAL interesting stuff is going to be when the IG report comes out, investigating the corrupt and politically biased investigators. Between now and then, now sure what else will be interesting...

From: Bentstick81
03-Feb-18
Thanks FREEloader, for the dose of dumba$$, for the evening. We can always count on you. 8^)))

From: BowSniper
03-Feb-18
JAIL COMEY NOW !!!!!!

From: TD
04-Feb-18
Cornerbacks????? good grief...... you are an idiot...... get your male expressions correct..... It's backseat DRIVER and Monday morning QUARTERBACK.....

WRT the "outrage" over a "politically biased" memo....... seem just fine with the top law enforcement officials in the land use as cause for a warrant a discredited hit piece COMMISSIONED by Clinton and the DNC. The very definition of "politically biased" and admittedly biased by the man who wrote it.

Do you even hear yourselves? That they used it to get the warrant is inarguable. On record as stating there would have been no warrant without it. Did they inform the Judge as to it's origins? Did they inform the Judge that the "corroboration" used to support it was in fact a media report ON THE DOSSIER ITSELF? Had they actually factually corroborated ANYTHING in the dossier? The next show is apparently about how they continued to push it as FBI evidence even after it being shopped around to several major media outlets.... who turned it down..... and they knew it.

Look the other way if you wish. Either from Trump hate (a good many here, they would sell their Mother to get to Trump) or simply don't want to believe the corruption at such a high level. This stinks like rotten fish. And goes way beyond being dishonest with a Judge trying to acquire a warrant.

You have these SAME highly placed agents, open and active Clinton supporters in charge of investigation of Clinton..... changing, modifying final reports, allowing destruction of evidence, not even recording the her interview. Writing up her exoneration even before she was questioned. No charges against her staff for lying to them many times over and over, much worse lies than Flynn. Immunity and then allowing them to destroy evidence before the investigation was anywhere near being closed. The Weiner laptop they sat on for near a month..... knowing it held more Clinton emails...... Had to reopen the investigation under threats from the local police dept who were the ones who found them. If the FBI didn't come public.... they would.

And the very same people in charge of the Trump/Russia connection.... proven trying to get some "insurance" on Trump should he win. Discussing forming a secret organization within the organization.

Good grief.... you people have no problem with any of that? Not worth the trouble? Is the Trump hate that blinding?

Again.... IMO tip of the iceberg stuff...... I'm looking for it to all implode on them. I just hope it gets to the top..... because all this was OKed or possibly directed from the very top.

From: Annony Mouse
04-Feb-18

Annony Mouse's Link

From: Sixby
04-Feb-18
Where is James Clapper? Where is Samantha Powers? Who is singing, Who is being exposed? Not Trump or anyone associated with him. What we are witnessing is the overturning of the Obama change of America. The press, the deep state, Their sins and hopefully everything that Obama did when he was dictator. We are being blessed of God to see the overturn of His enemies, The death of death and destruction of His babies and children. The defeat of spiritual wickedness in High Places, Powers and principalities being destroyed and removed/ Their sins being shouted from the rooftops. I get chills just watching it unfold every day/

God bless America, God bless Donald Trump and our CAbinet and God bless you , Steve

From: slade
05-Feb-18
CNN’s Mudd: FBI People ‘Ticked’ About Memo; Are Saying About Trump ‘Game Is Going to Be Played,’ They’re ‘Going to Win’

From: slade
05-Feb-18
Rep Gohmert appeared on Fox News Sunday to talk about the FISA abuse memo which was released Friday. Gohmert also revealed he is requesting the House Judiciary Committee subpoena the FISA court hearing transcripts.

“I have prepared a letter that I plan to submit to and hopefully have other people sign on with me tomorrow on our Judiciary Committee we have a great Chairman [Bob Goodlatte] on our Judiciary Committee. He wants to get to the facts and what I’m asking him for is that we as the Judiciary Committee subpoena the transcripts from the FISA court hearings, the four different ones at least regarding the dossier…I want to hear everything that was said,” Gohmert said.

Gohmert wants to know why the FISA judge hasn’t put anyone in jail for committing a fraud against the court. Hint: The FISA judge was appointed by Obama.

From: slade
05-Feb-18

slade's Link
Second Source Comes Forward=> Claims Rosenstein Threatened Nunes and House Intel if They Didn’t Stop Investigation!

From: bigswivle
05-Feb-18
"The FISA judge was appointed by Obama."

This is the most disturbing thing to me. Crooked judges

From: Annony Mouse
05-Feb-18
It wasn’t the collusion that started the investigation, it was concern that someone really had her emails

Article worthwhile reading cocludes:

"...The Russian investigation didn’t being as collusion. It began as a feverish effort to protect Hillary and Comey. It evolved into accusations of collusion as a canard. And despite concrete proof that the Clinton campaign and the DNC paid a foreign agent for false dirt from the Kremlin on a candidate for President of the US the word “collusion” never seems to apply."

From: Annony Mouse
06-Feb-18
From AOS:

"...THERE IS NO DEEP STATE

ANYONE CLAIMING THAT THERE IS A DEEP STATE SHOULD IMMEDIATELY BE REPORTED TO THE DEEP STATE FOR REEDUCATION ABOUT THE NON-EXISTENCE OF THE DEEP STATE

A MIND CLEAN OF THOUGHTS IS A MIND CLEAR OF CLUTTER.

BE WELL, CITIZEN, AND TAKE YOUR REQUIRED DOSES OF WORK PILLS, SEX PILLS, SLEEP PILLS, AND CALM PILLS..."

From: slade
07-Feb-18
“We’ve seen Special Counsel’s in the past leave their purview and the investigation has gone on for a long time and next thing you know you are investigating a Monica Lewinsky case when the president didn’t even know her when the special counsel began his work. So you don’t have any fear of that here?” Martha MacCallum asked Gowdy referencing the Special Counsel who investigated former president Bill Clinton.

Gowdy responded by saying he believes Special Counsel Mueller has already gone off course and said the person to blame for that would be Rod Rosenstein because he is the mastermind behind giving Mueller broad jurisdiction.

Mueller is also to blame. He knows full well Hillary Clinton’s phony dossier sparked the ‘Russia investigation’.

The dirty dossier was used to obtain a spy warrant to spy on Donald Trump’s political campaign. Without the phony dossier we wouldn’t have a Mueller witch hunt.

From: Beendare
07-Feb-18
Yeah, Those Dems are funny eh....all of the posturing about their own memo...and all it does is reinforce the original. In fact, it implicates the Clintons even more.

You know its trouble for the Dems when there is NOTHING about it on the CNN front page- not a word.

We haven't even heard from the rank and file FBI yet- and they have to be livid about what their politically appointed leaders have done to their reputation. I just hope it all comes out. No Clinton meeting on the tarmac with the dirty AG is going to cover up this mess. We will soon see if the Obama-ites among us actually have a modicum of intellect....or if they still defend them even with overwhelming evidence against.

From: Annony Mouse
07-Feb-18

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