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From: TGbow
06-Apr-18
If we hold to the constitution here in the US we wont have to worry about it...but that's the problem, most of our leaders don't care and a large amount of the population dont have a clue.

You have the freedom of worship in this country but the moment you engage in violent acts against US citizens you are a criminal/terrorist.

06-Apr-18
no balls, spineless weaklings. hand wringing and crying about the sky falling. If you find yourself under Sharia law Spike it will be because you allowed it.

From: bigeasygator
07-Apr-18
Lol...I’m sure “creepingsharia.com” is an unbiased news source without an agenda. How on earth do you even find these sites?

From: BIG BEAR
07-Apr-18
Spike.... What are you.... about 65 years old ?? You are going to live and die in a sad existence where you sat in your bunker on your computer just waiting for the evil commie demons to take over the USA. You are a sad little old man.

From: BIG BEAR
07-Apr-18
Yeah I know Spike.... you are a super secret Government Operative.......

Why don't you just for once in your super secretive life talk about some of your great adventures in life....... instead of surfing your whacked out right wing websites and then rushing over to the Bowsite to post your findings there.... You got a screw loose dude.

From: BIG BEAR
07-Apr-18
Yeah I know Jeff...... The left wing nutbags like PaulZ really don't fit in here....... The right wing nutburgers like Spike are more acceptable here..... I get it.....

I'm going to laugh my butt off if I ever find out that he really does have a doomsday bunker......

From: BIG BEAR
07-Apr-18
I'd take a poke back at Spike and what he does for a living...... be he conveniently never talks about that....... It's kind of a chicken sh-- thing to do,,, Poking fun at another guys profession..... while refusing to say what your profession is.....

From: BIG BEAR
07-Apr-18
You bring it on yourself Spike..... You will be paranoid about the Demon Commies coming to get you until the day you die. It's pretty much your sole focus. Like I said..... Why don't you ever take a break from all that and talk about some of your great adventures in life ?? Or your job ??

From: BIG BEAR
07-Apr-18
Further.... you talked about one of the left wing whackos posting fake news here..... Yet your go to news source you constantly post here is Breitbart..... Crap like Sharia law is in effect in Dearborn....... You're just as whacked out as the far left guys..... and I will continue to check you on some of the ridiculous stuff you post.

From: BIG BEAR
07-Apr-18
You said it was already in place in Dearborn....... I look at some of the stuff you post here as the far right wings version of the vagina hat. I think they are closer to taking over America than Muslims.......

From: BIG BEAR
07-Apr-18
We are still killing radical Islamic terrorists..... are we not ?? That will continue until the day Spike and you and I die. The U.S.A. Is not in jeopardy of being overthrown by Sharia law.

Jeff.... I still find it interesting that you and Spike take regular pokes at the profession of the regular left winger here.... But the 2 of you absolutely refuse to say what you did or do for a living (Other than you were a Marine).......... I mean.... there's everything from financial consultants to carpenters and school janitors on the Bowsite.... What's the big deal ?? Why the anonymous "sniping" ??

From: BIG BEAR
07-Apr-18
As I said.... We are still killing radical Islamic terrorists....... correct ?? It's been 17 years since 9/11....... A large portion of our population doesn't remember it or weren't even born yet. I'm not saying we should drop our guard...... I'm just saying there's no need to live your life in a bunker worrying about it............

How long after Pearl Harbor should we have been paranoid about the Japanese ???

From: BIG BEAR
07-Apr-18
So Spike..... I guess it's safe to say you had a hand in way more Americans deaths than Radical Islamic Terrorists...... having worked for Reynolds Tobacco....... Right ?? ;-)

07-Apr-18
And no one can give a single solid reason why I don’t belong here. And stop w the whole “he’s a liar” nonsense. You’ve all lied. Trump lies, people lie. I chose anonymity because I was getting harassing mail and phone calls to my job. If that doesn’t justify being anonmity, then I don’t know what does. But here I am now. So please explain why I supposedly don’t belong.

From: BIG BEAR
07-Apr-18
I never said you don't belong here.... You have every right to express your views here .......

I said you don't fit in here..... Any more than a vagina hat wearing protester....... The majority here are much more tolerant of far right wing nuts than they are of far left wing nuts.....

From: Bentstick81
07-Apr-18
Poor atheist. You always claim to be the VICTIM. You are a LIAR, and have had many chances to change, come clean, and start over. You choose not to. You have NEVER kept your word. LYING again, i see. Your post's doesn't have hardly any truth to them, and you can't explain a GUN LAW, that you are willing to see, to allow OUR guns be taken away from the LAW ABIDING citizen, that aren't committing any crimes. Brain washing students with this same scenario. So yes, you are a worthless FAKE.

From: bad karma
08-Apr-18
KPC's comment is accurate. Perhaps you should focus your attention on that rather than the author.

From: bigeasygator
08-Apr-18
KPC, careful!! You’re going to anger the Islaminatiphiles!! I hear they’re now controlling the Mueller investigation from their HQ in Dearborn, MI! I read it at shariamenace.com. Had to be true!!

From: BIG BEAR
08-Apr-18
Radical Islamic terrorists can want and wish and hope all they want Jeff..... They aren't taking over the United States any more than radical skinheads are.........

I'm really starting to think you are just as paranoid as Spike Bull.......

From: BIG BEAR
08-Apr-18
Further..... In the link you posted.... The radical Islamic leader claimed a successful Caliphate in 2014........ Ha !!! That's a good one..... a Taliban terrorist claiming that they already have a one world Government....... HAHAHAHA..... Get your tin foil hats on boys.....We've been overtaken.......

From: BIG BEAR
08-Apr-18
What are we at risk of Jeff ?? I would agree if the risk is that of a terrorist attack. That could happen..... But we have been doing everything we can since 9-11 to prevent a large scale attack like that from happening.............

Risk of a Caliphate....... ?? Our government being overthrown by radical Islamic terrorists????? PLEASE........ Get back into your bunker with ol Spikey.......

From: BIG BEAR
08-Apr-18
I thought we were talking about radical Islamic terrorists...... Or is it the liberals in the United States you're worried about ??

From: bigeasygator
08-Apr-18
More breaking news from creepingsharia.com I see. That anyone thinks this threat is anywhere near even remotely credible or in anyway imminent is mind blowing to me.

99.99999% of the country goes through the day without even seeing or interacting with a Muslim but they’re somehow going to overthrow our government, Constitution, and institute their law??

I feel bad that y’all live with such an irrational fear. No wonder y’all are so bitter and confrontational - if I really believed the crap that y’all do I’d probably have the same outlook on life.

From: BIG BEAR
08-Apr-18
Creepingsharia.com.......... I hope you had your tin foil hat snugly on when you're surfing those sites Spike.......

From: BIG BEAR
08-Apr-18
And some have internet service in their bunkers.......

From: BIG BEAR
08-Apr-18
I have news for you Jeff.... I voted for Trump.

From: Atheist
08-Apr-18
Spike, JTV you guys keep posting what you believe. Ignor the whiners.

From: jjs
08-Apr-18
The clear and present danger to this country is two fold and that is the socialist-progressive DNC left and Islam, both cannot operate in a free Republic society and please dispute this with rational facts, it can not be done.

From: BIG BEAR
08-Apr-18
Radical Islam is a terrorist threat all over the world. They are not a treat to overthrow our Government........

We continue to kill Radical Islamic Terrorists.... as we should.........

I'm way more leery of the vagina hat wearing Americans who likely will be in charge of our Government..........

From: BIG BEAR
08-Apr-18
As to your question do you think radical Islamic terrorists want a caliphate.......

Your last link says the ISIS dream of a caliphate is over, so what's next........

So radical Islamic terrorists had a dream of a Caliphate..... but it didn't work out for them......Wow!! What a shocker...!! They weren't able to make a one world government????

They have about as much chance of doing that as a bunch of skinheads have of making our society segregated again in the US...........

You wonder where my head is at Jeff ???? I pretty much know where yours is at. You hate all Muslims. Same as Spike Bull. You fear that the 3 million Muslim American Citizens are going to rise up against our Government.... joining hands with ISIS,,, And overthrow our Government.....

But not in your lifetime....... maybe a hundred to 200 years from now........

From: BIG BEAR
08-Apr-18
I know ,, I know Spikey...... Sharia Law is already in effect in Dearborn Michigan.............HAHAHAHA

From: BIG BEAR
08-Apr-18
So you start a thread stating that the end goal of radical Islamics is 100% occupation..... Sharia Law.............

And after a couple hundred posts....... You say..... Nobody said we are in immediate danger of Islamists overthrowing the Government...........

So what the hell is the point of your thread ??? Why do you spend endless hours day after day searching sites like creepingsharia.whackos ??? Why are you so obsessed with this if you admit that they aren't a threat to overthrow our government???

We are still at war with ISIS.... we're killing them when we find them........

I'm done with this thread..... I'll live my life without worrying about Sharia law taking over America..... I'll leave that up to you two.

From: Rocky
08-Apr-18
You two guys agree so much and are so close you better check each other's zipper to make sure whose junk is in whose pants. Infantile old men. There. The appropriate oxymoron, or plural, morons.

The Rock

From: bigeasygator
08-Apr-18
“What is it about incrementalism that makes you guys go so bonkers?“

Lol...The only guys going bonkers over incrementalism are you and JTV. The rate at which Muslims are immigrating to this country it will take a thousand years before they ever approach the numbers to alter our government, if they ever do. But you know what? Over time, they’ll become more and more American and less Muslim. Your fears are totally unfounded. And if they do overtake the country in a 1,000 years? So what. History is full of one group of people displacing another. If America becomes the new home of the caliphate, well then I can promise you the idea of America will go on somewhere else. What a non-issue to spend so much time worrying about.

From: BIG BEAR
08-Apr-18
Ask Trump if he's losing the war on terrorism Jeff.......

For a minute my guess was that you worked for Homeland Security........ But then..... anyone who cares for their government job wouldn't be on line expressing his hatred towards an entire religion...... So I change my guess to self employed.......

I'm outie........

From: tonyo6302
08-Apr-18

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From: tonyo6302
08-Apr-18
"The rate at which Muslims are immigrating to this country it will take a thousand years before they ever approach the numbers to alter our government,"

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I can debunk that statement with two words, "Patriot Act".

It only took 5 terrorists flying planes into the World Trade Center to cause our Republic and Constitution to be instantly altered by Congress.

Three more words for ya, "FISA Court abuses."

From: tonyo6302
08-Apr-18
BIG BEAR, that photo above is Neville Chamberlain, holding the peace agreement signed by Adolf Hitler.

From: tonyo6302
08-Apr-18

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TERRORISM SINCE 9/11 The American Cases

Edited by John Mueller

Mershon Center Ohio State University 1501 Neil Avenue Columbus, Ohio 43201 USA [email protected]

Cato Institute 1000 Massachusetts Avenue, NW Washington, DC 20001

January 3, 2018 This book includes a detailed discussion, each organized in a similar manner, of the cases that have come to light of Islamist extremist terrorism since 9/11, whether based in the United States or abroad, in which the United States itself has been, or apparently has been, targeted. It mostly springs from papers generated in honors seminars I conducted at Ohio State University. Interns at the Cato Institute have also contributed case studies. I have added an introduction as well as a headnote for each case. Since we plan to update, revise, and correct, and then to re-post from time to time, each case study and each headnote is dated and carries its own individual pagination.— John Mueller The full 1051-page book can be accessed in pdf (13 MB) by clicking here. The book is also available in printed form from The Educational Publisher https://edupublisher.com Information: Bob Sims at [email protected]

The Cases Cases that have come to light of Islamist extremist terrorism since 9/11, whether based in the United States or abroad, in which the United States itself has been, or apparently has been, targeted

The cases are arrayed below. There are studies for those with underlined titles. Click on separate file to access the individual case as an independent pdf file.

Case types An Islamist extremist conspiracy or connection that, in the view of the authorities, might eventually develop into a plot to commit violence in the United States An Islamist extremist terrorist plot to commit violence in the United States, no matter how embryonic, that is disrupted but not by infiltrating a police operative into the plot An Islamist extremist plot to commit violence in the United States that is essentially created or facilitated in a major way by the authorities by infiltrating a police operative into the plot and then arresting the plotters when enough evidence is accumulated An Islamist extremist terrorist or terrorist group that actually reaches the stage of committing, or trying to commit, violence in the United States

Case number, title, type, year, description, author for full case studies

Introduction—John Mueller separate file

The shoe bomber 4 2001 A British man tries to blow up a US-bound airliner with explosives in his shoes but is subdued by passengers and crew—Jolie Yang separate file

Padilla 1 2002 An American connected to al-Qaeda, who had discussed a dirty bomb attack, returns to the US and is arrested— Allison Barbo separate file

Mt. Rushmore 3 2002 Two men in Florida, one of them possibly connected to an al-Qaeda operative, plot, crucially aided by an informant, to bomb local targets as well as Mt. Rushmore before 9/11, and are arrested and tried the year after.

El Al at LAX 4 2002 A depressed anti-Israel Egyptian national shoots and kills two at the El Al ticket counter at Los Angeles airport in an act later considered to be one of terrorism, and then is killed by a guard—Zachary Zaerr separate file

Lackawanna 1 2002 Seven Americans in Lackawanna, NY, are induced to travel to an al-Qaeda training camp, but six return disillusioned, all before 9/11, and are arrested the next year for providing support to the group—Blaise Katter separate file

Kahn and the Parachas 2 2003 A young Pakistani seeks to help an al-Qaeda operative enter the country to attack underground storage tanks at gas stations—Alexander Hitchcock separate file

Abu Ali in Saudi Arabia 2 2003 A US citizen joins a terrorist cell in Saudi Arabia and plots to hijack a plane in the US and to assassinate President Bush when he is arrested by the Saudis and extradited to the US for trial—Leigh Stephens separate file

Columbus and the Brooklyn Bridge 2 2003 An American connected to al-Qaeda discusses shooting up a shopping mall in Columbus, Ohio, with two friends, then scouts taking down the Brooklyn Bridge for al-Qaeda, but decides it’s too difficult— Drew Herrick separate file

Barot and the financial buildings 2 2004 Group in London tied to al-Qaeda scouts out financial buildings in the US with an eye to bombing them, but never gets to the issue of explosives— Tessa Reinhart separate file

Albany 3 2004 Two men in Albany, NY, effectively help fund an informant's terror plot—Michael Spinosi separate file

Nettles 3 2004 An American with a long history of criminal and mental problems plots under the nickname of "Ben Laden" to blow up a federal courthouse in Chicago and reaches out for help to a Middle Eastern terrorist group, but gets the FBI—Rachel Cohen separate file

Herald Square 3 2004 Loud-mouthed jihadist in New York and a schizophrenic friend attract informant who helps them lay plans to bomb Herald Square subway station—Surili Sheth separate file

12a Nashville 3 2004 An immigrant from Iraq, 33, angry about American policy in Iraq, declares he is “going Jihad,” planning to blow up something probably in Nashville, and is arrested when he pays an FBI operative $1000 for, and takes possession of, two disassembled machine guns, four disassembled hand grenades, and hundreds of rounds of ammunition in the parking lot of a Krispy Kreme doughnut shop.

Grecula 3 2005 An American with visions of being an modern day Spartacus agrees to build a bomb to be exploded in the US for undercover agents claiming to be al-Qaeda—Todd Ives separate file

Lodi 1 2005 An American in Lodi, California, who may have attended a training camp in Pakistan but with no apparent plan to commit violence is arrested with the aid of an informant— Andrew Ashbrook separate file

JIS 2 2005 American in jail masterminds a plot by three others to shoot up military recruitment centers, synagogues, and a non-existent military base in the Los Angeles area but, although close to their first attack, the plans are disrupted when they leave a cell phone behind at a funds-raising robbery—Demetrius Daniels-Hill separate file

Pipelines and the terrorist hunter 3 2005 An American offers on the internet to blow up pipelines in Canada as an aid to al-Qaeda, and attracts the attention of free-lance informant— Shannon Buckner separate file

U of North Carolina 4 2006 To punish the US government for actions around the world, a former student, after failing to go abroad to fight or to join the Air Force so he could drop a nuclear bomb on Washington, drives a rented SUV onto campus to run over as many Americans as possible and manages to injure nine—Andrew Braun separate file

17a Target surveillance in Washington, DC 2 2006 Two men hailing from South Asia, 21 and 19, apparently linked to Lashkar e-Taiba, a Pakistani terrorist group, make videos, later sending them to an international terrorist contact in London, of potential targets in the Washington, DC, area including the Capitol, the headquarters of the World Bank, a Masonic Temple, and a group of large fuel storage tanks.

Hudson River tunnels 2 2006 Angered by the US invasion of Iraq, several men plot on the internet to flood railway tunnels under the Hudson river, but are arrested overseas before acquiring bomb materials, before meeting each other in person, and before setting foot in the US—Zachary Karabatak separate file

Sears Tower 3 2006 Seven men in Miami plot with an informant, whom they claim they were trying to con, to take down the Sears Tower in Chicago, then focus on closer buildings—Lauren Brady separate file

Bombing transatlantic airliners 2 2006 A small group in London, under intense police surveillance from the beginning, plots to explode liquid bombs on US-bound airliners—Tyler Puhl separate file

Rockford Mall 3 2006 Loud mouthed jihadist attracts the attention of an informant and together they plot exploding grenades at a shopping mall in Rockford, IL—David Bernstein separate file

Fort Dix 3 2007 A small group target practices, buys guns, and plots to attack Ft. Dix, NJ, with the aid of an informant who joins the group when the FBI is told they took a jihadist video into a shop to be duplicated—Jovan Galevski separate file

JFK airport 3 2007 A small group, with informant, plots to blow up fuel lines serving JFK airport in New York—Bryan Staub separate file

Vinas 2 2008 A New York man travels to Pakistan, is accepted into al-Qaeda, and plots to plant a bomb in the US, but is being watched and talks after being arrested—David Dawson separate file

Bronx synagogues 3 2009 Four men, with crucial aid from an informant, plot to bomb synagogues in Bronx, NY, and shoot down a plane at a military base—David Bernstein separate file Little Rock 4 2009 An American man travels to Middle East to get training, but fails, and on his return, working as a lone wolf, he eventually shoots and kills one soldier at a military recruitment center in Little Rock, AK—Michael Coleman separate file

Boyd and Quantico 3 2009 A complicated conspiracy in North Carolina including an informant, gathers weapons and may have targeted Quantico Marine Base—Kelly Stritzinger separate file

Zazi 2 2009 An Afghan-American and two friends travel to Pakistan to join the Taliban, but are recruited by al-Qaeda to plant bombs on New York subways instead, and are under surveillance throughout—Justin Heilmann separate file

Springfield 3 2009 A loud mouthed jihadist plots, with informants, to set off a bomb in Springfield, IL—Ronald Lieberman separate file

Dallas skyscraper 3 2009 A Jordanian on a student visa rouses interest from the FBI in internet postings and, together with three agents, tries to detonate a fake bomb in the basement of a Dallas skyscraper—Lauren Brady separate file

Mehanna 2 2009 A well-educated Muslim jihadist may have plotted briefly to shoot up a shopping center in the Boston area and tried to join an insurgency in the Middle East, but is arrested for spreading jihadist propaganda—Malgorzata Mrozek separate file Killings at Fort Hood 4 2009 Military psychiatrist, acting as a lone wolf, shoots up a military deployment center in Ft. Hood, TX, killing 12 soldiers and one civilian, shortly before he is supposed to be deployed to the war in Afghanistan—Taylor Schmaltz separate file

The underwear bomber 4 2009 A Nigerian man tries to blow up a US-bound airliner with explosives in his underwear but is subdued by passengers and crew—Matthew Spade separate file

Times Square 4 2010 A Pakistani-American gets training in Pakistan and on his own tries, but fails, to set off a car bomb at Times Square in New York—David Tan separate file

Alaska 3 2010 A Muslim convert in a remote Alaska town plots the assassination of 20 with the aid of an informant. separate file

Parcel bombs on cargo planes 2 2010 An effort by al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula to set off parcel bombs implanted in printer cartridges on cargo planes bound for the United States is disrupted by an insider—Ruxton McClure separate file

DC Metro—bomb plot 3 2010 A Pakistani-American aids FBI operatives posing as al-Qaeda in a plot to bomb the DC Metro—Chad Chessin separate file

Oregon 3 2010 A teenaged Somali-American jihadist, unable to go abroad to fight, works with FBI operatives, apparently alerted by his father, to set off a van bomb at a Christmas tree lighting ceremony in Portland, Oregon—David Bernstein separate file

DC Metro—Facebook 2 2010 A Virginia man brags without substance to a female Facebook correspondent that he will bomb the Washington Metro soon, and is quickly arrested for making interstate threats, receiving a light sentence—Lauren Brady separate file

Baltimore 3 2010 A Baltimore man seeks allies on Facebook for violent jihad, and the FBI supplies him with an informant and with a fake SUV bomb with which he tries to blow up a military recruitment center—Lauren Brady separate file

Texas 2 2011 A Saudi student in Texas, flunking out and displaying intense new discontent on his blog and Facebook profile, is arrested after buying bomb-making materials and considering potential targets including crowded streets in distant New York and a local residence of former President George W. Bush—David Bernstein separate file

Manhattan’s pair of lone wolves 3 2011 Upset with how the US treats Muslims around the world, a mentally ill American citizen, with an accomplice and an undercover officer, purchases weapons as the first step in a plot to blow up synagogues, the Empire State Building, and other targets in New York and New Jersey. separate file

Pentagon shooter 24 2011 A US marine reservist with jihadist literature shoots at military buildings in the DC area and is arrested as he seeks to desecrate the graves of veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan—Andrew Braun separate file

Seattle 3 2011 Two financially-destitute men, exercised over US foreign policy, are arrested in Seattle after they purchase an FBI-supplied machine gun that they plan to use to attack a military recruiting center after they save up enough money to purchase bullets and other material. separate file

Abdo 2 2011 A US Army Private, unwilling to wage war on Muslims, is arrested after he buys ammunition and bomb materials to explode in a restaurant popular with soldiers—Nicole Spaetzel separate file

Model planes 3 2011 Seeking to “decapitate” the US “military center,” a mentally-ill hobbyist plots with police operatives to attack the Pentagon with remote-controlled model planes bearing explosives and then to shoot at people as they flee the building—Ruxton McClure separate file

Iran and Scarface 3 2011 An Iranian-American used-car salesman from Texas, nicknamed “Scarface” from the results of an earlier street brawl, is engaged for a promised $1.5 million by members of the Iranian government to arrange for a Mexican drug cartel to blow up Saudi Arabia's ambassador in a Washington restaurant but is foiled by an undercover Drug Enforcement Agency operative who is wired $100,000 as a down payment—Zachary Zaerr separate file

Pimentel’s pipe bomb 3 2011 A naturalized US citizen and Muslim convert, hostile to US military ventures in the Middle East, seeks to make pipe bombs using match heads to attack various targets. separate file

Tampa 3 2012 Under suspicion after he walked into a store seeking to purchase an al-Qaeda flag, an Albanian-American loner plots in Tampa with a police operative to detonate a car bomb, fire an assault rifle, wear an explosive belt, take hostages, and bomb nightclubs, a police center, several bridges, and a Starbuck’s coffee shop in order to avenge wrongs against Muslims and to bring terror to his “victims’ hearts”—Nicole Spaetzel separate file

Capitol bomber 3 2012 A Moroccan man who had overstayed his visa for years and had been thrown out of his apartment for non-payment of rent, concludes that the war on terror is a war on Muslims, plots with FBI operatives, and is arrested as he seeks to carry out a suicide bombing at the Capitol—Zachary Karabatak separate file

Chicago bar 3 2012 Drawn by the violent jihadist emails and internet postings composed by an unemployed and apparently retarded 18-year-old Egyptian-American who felt the US was at war with Islam, FBI agents gain his confidence, supply him with a fake bomb which he parks outside a Chicago bar he said was filled with “the evilest people,” and then arrest him when he attempts to detonate it from a nearby alley— Rachel Cohen separate file

Bombing the Federal Reserve Bank 3 2012 A college flunk- out from Bangladesh uses his parents’ life-savings to study in the US and reaches out on Facebook, obtains the help of the FBI to do something that will “shake the whole country,” and is arrested when he tries to set off an FBI-supplied bomb planted at the Federal Reserve Bank building in New York from a nearby hotel room—Todd Ives separate file

The brothers plot 2 2012 Two brothers in Florida plot to set off a bomb in New York in revenge for US drone attacks in Afghanistan, but are arrested before getting very far beyond bicycling around Manhattan looking for targets Oazi November

53a Car bomb at an Oakland bank 3 2013 A mentally disturbed US citizen, 28, in sympathy with the Taliban, tries to set off a car bomb supplied to him by the FBI in front of a bank in Oakland, California, in hopes that the explosion would be blamed on antigovernment militias and prompt a crackdown that would touch off a civil war.

Boston Marathon 4 2013 Two Chechen-American brothers, working alone, detonate two homemade bombs in a crowd at the Boston marathon, killing three, and then are killed or captured a few days later after an exhaustive and dramatic manhunt—Chad Chessin separate file

54a Uzbek bomb plot in Boise 3 2013 A refugee from Uzbekistan gathers materials for a potential bombing of a military base or of a July 4 celebration in Boise, Idaho.

Wichita airport 3 2013 A worker at the Wichita, Kansas, airport plots with FBI agents to detonate a car bomb at dawn at the airport—Niko Pittore separate file Rochester 3 2014 A pizza shop owner in Rochester, in vocal sympathy with Islamic State on social media who had been asked to leave three Mosques for his radical views, seeks to recruit for the group and plots with FBI operatives to shoot and kill returning members of the U.S. military.

Killings in Seattle and New Jersey 4 2014 Apparently motivated by hostility to American foreign policy, a man murders three in Washington state and is captured later when he kills another in New Jersey—Alex Iammarino separate file

New York axe attack 4 2014 An unemployed recluse and devotee of ISIS and other terrorist groups with a multiple arrest record, 22, attacks four police officers with an axe in Queens, New York, and is shot dead in an altercation that takes seven seconds.

Cincinnati 3 2015 A young local loner, in sympathy with ISIS, plots with FBI operatives to set off a bomb at the Capitol in Washington, DC—Cassandra Dula separate file

59a Carolina 2 2015 Two men, one a teen, plan to rob a gun shop, attack a North Carolina military base, then go to the Middle East to join ISIS.

Ohio returnee from Syria 2 2015 A Somali-American, actively communicating about his plans with friends on social media, travels to the Middle East, stays about a month, receives some training from and al-Qaeda affiliate, returns, and, as urged by a cleric he met in Syria, may have planned to commit violence—Maria Chabali separate file

Aurora 3 2015 Unable to travel abroad to fight with ISIS because of a felony conviction for trying to rob a McDonalds, an Illinois man, 23, plots with a cousin, 30, and with FBI operatives to “unleash the lion” by attacking a local National Guard Armory.

Two women in Queens 3 2015 Protesting that “It’s war” and “Protest don’t work” and “Why can’t we be some real bad bitches?” two women, one in communication with al-Qaeda in Yemen, try to fabricate bombs with the aid of an undercover officer.

Miami 3 2015 Posting sympathies to ISIS on Facebook, a Florida man is arrested after he seeks to buy arms and ammunition (with plans to emboss “ISIS” on the shell casings) from an FBI operative.

Fort Riley 3 2015 A young man enthusing on Facebook about being killed in jihad, plots with FBI operatives to explode a 1000-pound bomb at a nearby military base—Alex Rhodes separate file

Shootings at Cartoon Contest in Garland, Texas 4 2015 Two men with very limited connections to ISIS and other terrorist groups drive from Phoenix to Garland, Texas, wearing body armor and carrying six guns, open fire at an anti-Islamist exhibit, and are gunned down in 15 seconds by a traffic officer armed only with a handgun and then killed by a SWAT team— Sam Zacher separate file Abdulkader in Cincinnati 3 2015 Yearning to join ISIS in Syria, a 21-year-old in Cincinnati attracts the attention of the FBI by Tweeting nearly daily about his admiration for the group and about his enthusiasm for beheadings, and then plots with an FBI operative and with an ISIS cybercoach to kill a soldier and to raid a police station.

New England 4 2015 Three ISIS-inspired men variously plot to carry out terrorist attacks, and one, saying he couldn’t wait any longer and has decided to “go after” the “boys in blue” instead, attempts to stab a police officer in Boston and is shot dead.

Attempted stabbing of an FBI agent in New York 4 2015 Three ISIS-inspired men in the New York area variously plot attacks, and one tries to stab an FBI agent searching his home.

Al-Ghazi in Ohio 3 2015 A drug dealer and convicted felon becomes attracted to ISIS, pledges affiliation, creates propaganda videos for the group, seeks to recruit others to the cause on social media, gets in contact with someone he thinks is an encouraging ISIS member overseas (but is actually an FBI operative), appears to express a desire to commit a terrorist attack, and is arrested when he purchases an AK-47 from an FBI operative.

Sullivan 3 2015 Tipped off by his stepfather, the FBI puts an operative on, and eventually arrests, an unstable 19-year-old man in North Carolina with a yearning to kill hundreds of people on behalf of ISIS and who had previously robbed and killed a neighbor apparently to get money for weapons. separate file

Ciccolo 3 2015 Turned in by his father, a Boston police captain, a man who advertised his desire to join ISIS on social media and had a long history of mental illness plans to attack a university cafeteria deemed to be “very sinful” and is arrested when an undercover agent supplies him with weapons—Maria Chabali separate file

Chattanooga 4 2015 A mentally-ill man with no known terrorist connections, but who possessed some jihadist literature and whose life was on a downward spiral, kills five military personnel in Tennessee and then is killed in a shoot-out with police—Niko Pittore separate file

Suarez and Key West 3 2015 After capturing the attention of the FBI with some Facebook posts (including beheading videos), a Florida man, 25, who considers himself to be a member of ISIS and expects the group soon to come to the US to fight, scripts and records a recruitment video for ISIS and plots with some FBI operatives to detonate a buried timer bomb at a Key West beach but is arrested when he takes possession of a bomb created for the purpose by the FBI.

73a Bombs and a Papal assassination attempt in Philadelphia 3 2015 A 15-year-old who had spent a considerable amount of time in a mental hospital puts together ISIS-inspired plots to set off bombs across Philadelphia and also to assassinate the Pope on a visit to the city, but the sniper he seeks to hire is an FBI operative.

UC Merced 4 2015 After visiting ISIS websites and after being kicked out of a study group, a student at the University of California, Merced, stabs four people on campus and then is killed by police—Niko Pittore separate file

Akron 2 2015 An ardent ISIS supporter in Akron, Ohio, 24 years old, is arrested for solicitation to commit violent crime when he posts “kill lists” on social media, comprised of the names and addresses of 100 military people he thinks should be killed, and declares that he would be proud when he sheds American blood.

San Bernardino 4 2015 A husband and wife, professing loyalty to ISIS, fire guns at a holiday party, killing 14, and then are killed in a battle with police in a subsequent chase—Alex Iammarino separate file

ISIS fund transfer 2 2015 A Baltimore man, tracked for months, is arrested when he receives at least $8700 from Islamic State operatives in Egypt to fund a terrorist attack in the US, although he claims he was merely seeking to scam the money from the group.

Rochester panhandler 3 2015 Deemed an “aggressive panhandler” by a local restaurant/bar owner, a mentally-unstable man, part of a four-man terrorist cell or cluster (the other three are FBI operatives), becomes “ready to give up everything” to join ISIS in Syria and, to show ISIS that he is serious, plots to attack the restaurant/bar with a machete that one of the FBI operatives purchases for him at Walmart—Cassandra Dula separate file

78a Houston mall 3 2016 An Iraqi refugee in Texas, 24, confides to an FBI operative that he would like to join ISIS and plots to bomb a Houston shopping mall.

Philadelphia 4 2016 A man, 30, attempts to kill a Philadelphia police officer with a stolen handgun and says, “I pledge my allegiance to the Islamic State, and that’s why I did what I did.”

Masonic temple in Milwaukee 3 2016 A fitness trainer and US citizen in Milwaukee, 23, abandoning plans to kill Israelis in the West Bank as impractical, plots with two FBI operatives to shoot up a local Masonic temple (“if this hit is executed, it will be known all over the world…If I got out after killing thirty people, I will be....100% happy, because these 30 will terrify the world. The mother fuckers will know that nobody can play with Muslims”), and is arrested after FBI operatives sell him fully automatic weapons and one silencer.

Detroit church 3 2016 A US-born citizen, 21, makes increasingly violent statements on Twitter about conducting an attack on behalf of ISIS and, after communicating with an FBI operative, focuses on a Detroit church and then is arrested for possession of a firearm by an unlawful user of a controlled substance and is sentenced to 5 years. Franey in Montesano 3 2016 A vocal ISIS supporter in Montesano, Washington, 34, accepts guns for a potential attack from an FBI operative.

Ranting in Minnesota 2 2016 A 23-year-old Minnesota man, in contact with ISIS members in Syria, is arrested for communicating threats by saying during a drunken rant that he was going to “kill everyone” at a local Walgreens, but is ultimately charged only with falsely telling the FBI that the contacts had ended.

Bombings and shootings in New York 3 2016 Three men abroad, one of them an orthopedic surgeon in the Philippines, plot with an FBI informant to shoot up and detonate bombs in New York City in support of ISIS.

Florida synagogue 3 2016 A U.S.-born convert to Islam, aged 40, with mental health problems (including a cyst in his brain) plots to bomb a synagogue in Florida, crediting the deed to ISIS following an FBI informant’s suggestion and inspiring other Muslims (“It’s a war, man, and like it’s time to strike back here in America”), but is arrested when he buys the requisite explosive from the operative and attempts to place in near the synagogue.

Orlando 4 2016 A gunman trained in the use of firearms, professing allegiance to ISIS and that demanding US airstrikes be halted in the Middle East, kills 49 at a gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida, and is killed by police after a three-hour standoff—Alex Rhodes separate file Gregerson in Michigan 3 2016 Following a tip that he is amassing an arsenal, the FBI investigates a U.S.-born Muslim convert, 29, in Michigan, a vocal ISIS sympathizer who “fantasizes” about committing terrorism, and arrests him when he buys explosives from an FBI operative.

Phoenix 3 2016 An 18 year old Arizona man, mentally-ill, corresponds with a federal agent he believes to be an ISIS fighter about attacking a motor vehicle office in Phoenix.

Former national guardsman in Virginia 3 2016 A former national guardsman in Virginia, 27, hooks up with an ISIS cybercoach in Libya who then inadvertently connects him with an FBI informant, and the three begin to plot to kill a couple of soldiers in the United States, following this up with a larger ISIS attack.

Wehelie 3 2016 A Virginia man, arrested and charged with illegal gun possession, gets a long sentence because he made “dangerous statements” to an FBI operatives about how he would love to join ISIS abroad but would settle for attacking a U.S. military recruitment station.

Recruiter for an ISIS attack in North Carolina 3 2016 A North Carolina man seeks to recruit people over social media, including an undercover FBI agent, to carry out ISIS attacks in the United States.

Roanoke 4 2016 A man, apparently inspired by ISIS and possibly mentally ill, attacks two people with a knife after hearing voices in Roanoke, Virginia.

Southern Illinois 1 2016 An 18-year old with a history of mental illness who once used a rock to scratch a pickup truck is charged with making a verbal threat to commit a “mass casualty event” and providing material support to a terrorist organization.

Minnesota mall stabbings 4 2016 An unassuming Somali- American student and part-time security guard, with little evidence of terrorist intent (but afterwards proclaimed a “soldier” by ISIS), goes on a stabbing spree, injuring ten people in a shopping mall in St. Cloud, Minnesota, before being killed by an off-duty police officer—Niko Pittore separate file

Chelsea bomber 4 2016 A 28-year-old Afghan-American, apparently inspired by al-Qaeda, plants several homemade bombs in the New York area, two of which explode, killing no one, and the bombmaker is later arrested after a shootout with police—Niko Pittore separate file

ISIS assassination plot in Maryland 3 2016 A legal permanent resident who came to the US from Bangladesh at the age of three (and was now 24), expresses support on social media for ISIS and then enthusiastically plots (“That’s like my goal in life”) with an FBI operative to murder a US military member on an ISIS hit list (they gathered 100 rounds of ammunition for the job) under the belief, suggested by the operative, that they would receive $80,000 from ISIS for the venture.

Houston 3 2016 A 24-year-old Iraqi refugee who wants to join ISIS, plots with an FBI informant to set off bombs at two Houston shopping malls.

Bomb plot in an Arizona prison 2 2016 Following a tip, police disrupt a plot by a 38-year old Muslim convert, ISIS supporter, and lifer at an Arizona prison to use “radicalized materials” and bombmaking information mailed to him by his wife to murder the warden or blow up a vending machine in the visitors section.

Indiana 3 2016 An Indiana man, 30, communicates with police operatives indicating that he wants to join ISIS and sends information about making and using explosives.

Oakland 3 2016 A man in California, 22, opens social media accounts for ISIS and plots attacks with FBI operatives.

Garbage truck at Times Square 3 2016 A 37-year-old Yemen-born Uber driver in Brooklyn avidly supports ISIS on Facebook, tries and fails to join the group, and then discusses driving a garbage truck into a crowd at Times Square with an FBI informant he met through his Facebook posts.

Ohio State University 4 2016 A Somali refugee, a student at Ohio State, apparently outraged at the persecution of Muslims around the world particularly in Burma, injures thirteen people by driving his car into a crowd on campus and by leaping from the car and stabbing at people with a butcher knife and then is shot dead by a campus police officer—Niko Pittore separate file Thompson in Arizona 2 2016 A 30 year old felon in Arizona who nearly two years earlier may have tried to buy a pistol online, is arrested after he conducts hundreds of suspicious Google searches and posts on social media such comments as “Islamic State is officially in America. The war has begun” and “Right, we need to get down with this ISIS shit.”

Suffolk 3 2016 After the FBI is informed that a Suffolk, Virginia, man, 26, had voiced support for ISIS on his Facebook page and had purchased an AK-47 rifle, they have an agent contact him posing as an ISIS member and arrest him after he requests ammunition, gives the agent $250 to support the terrorist group, and says he is ready to “go forth.”

Denver killing 4 2017 A former Army sergeant and martial arts instructor, 37, about whose apparent radicalism police had been warned more than once by the Muslim community, abruptly shoots and kills a transit officer and is apprehended shortly thereafter without further incident by the police.

ISIS supporter in Missouri 3 2017. A Missouri man plots to bomb Kansas City in collaboration with FBI agents who pose as ISIS members and who had been alerted by his social media posts supporting violent jihad.

Lepsky of New Jersey 2 2017 After police responded to what they called an “incident” taking place in a Point Pleasant, NJ, home in which a 20-year-old man had stabbed the family’s dog because it was “dirty” in the view of Islam and was apparently going to do the same to his mother, they discovered that the man was an ISIS supporter who was planning to create and detonate a pressure cooker bomb in New York City “to kill as many people as possible” and to die in the process.

Threats in North Carolina 2 2017 Garrett Grimsley, 27, is charged with making online threats “in interstate commerce” to “non-Muslims,” and a subsequent search of his apartment uncovers an assault rifle and 340 bullets while discovering that he had been reading an ISIS magazine—though Grimsley said he only was looking at the pictures.

Calloway in DC 3 2017 A felon and former Marine, 38, who advertises his admiration for ISIS on Facebook (complete with flag) and discusses with an FBI operative the killing of DC police officers (but not ones who are Muslim) and the need to prepare for a “race war” against whites, is arrested when he buys an AK-47 rifle and ammunition from the informant.

Surveilling for Hizballah 2 2017. Two men, one from New York City and one from Dearborn, Michigan, both naturalized citizens, are arrested for being undercover agents for Hizballah, surveilling potential targets in the United States and in the Panama Canal zone and for “possessing extensive bomb making training.”

Alabama 2 2017 A Huntsville man, 22, who swore allegiance to ISIS and may have been planning to bomb a public building, is arrested by local police, following a tip, for soliciting or providing support for terrorism. Ftouhi in Flint 4 2017 A 49-year-old Tunisian-Canadian comes to Flint, Michigan, attempts to stab a police officer at the airport and, after being taken into custody, explains, “You have killed people in Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan, and we are all going to die.”

Casey Spain 3 2017 A Virginia felon, who had himself tattooed in prison with “Cop Killa” on his face and an ISIS flag on his back and who talks repeatedly to fellow inmates of working for ISIS, is arrested 20 days after his release when an FBI operative sells him a handgun.

Shopping Mall in Miami 3 2017 A Florida man records pro-ISIS videos and works with FBI operatives to build a bomb to be detonated in the food court of the Sweetwater mall in Miami.

Truck attack on Manhattan bike path 4 2017 A Florida man, originally from Uzbekistan and vowing allegiance to ISIS, plows a rented truck down a bike path in Manhattan, killing 8, and then, armed with toy guns, is shot and subdued by police.

Homemade bomb in New York pedestrian tunnel 4 2017 A 2011 immigrant from Bangladesh, 27, angered by US foreign policy and inspired by ISIS, detonates a crude strapped-on pipe bomb in a pedestrian tunnel in New York, suffering burns and cuts himself and inflicting minor injuries on three others.

San Francisco 3 2017. A depressed tow-truck driver who completed basic training in the Marines, advertises his ISIS sympathies online noting, in particular, that he “loved” an ISIS poster showing Santa Claus in New York with a box of dynamite over the caption, “We meet at Christmas in New York . . . soon,” and is arrested when he considers, but then apparently abandons, a suicide plan to shoot up and perhaps bomb a popular tourist attraction in San Francisco on Christmas in coordination with the other members of his cell, all of whom are FBI operatives.

There are also two case studies concerning efforts by Islamist extremists to go abroad to inflict damage on US interests there:

998 New York Stock Exchange 2010 Three men seek to join the fight against the US in the Middle East and find a couple of operatives in Yemen who agree to help them (and after being arrested, identity them), but only after the men send over tens of thousands of dollars and case the New York Stock Exchange for a possible attack—Jake A. Douglas separate file

999 Toledo 2006 Three men in Toledo, OH, seek to join the fight against the US in the Middle East but fail to get in while attracting the attention of an informant who trains them— Meagan Woodall separate file

From: tonyo6302
08-Apr-18

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Continuing bad choices in legal immigration is like letting the Fox guard the Hen House
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Continuing bad choices in legal immigration is like letting the Fox guard the Hen House

08-Apr-18
Yeah. You guys have it figured out. There's no ideological component to Islam to cause any hesitation. There are no examples of countries where Islamists refuse to assimilate and have negative impacts on the host country. It's not like there's any kind of goal or plan, let alone history of directed expansion.

"One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory."

Oh. Wait a minute. There might be a goal. And those vagina hat wearing leftist nut jobs seem to be all about virtue signaling and cheering for the inclusion and diversity of those who reject their values. Let's bring in millions! What could go wrong?

While we're at it, we can actively recruit more groups whose ideology runs counter to our own. Too bad the Khmer Rouge and Nazis are harder to find these days.

But my opinion doesn't have as much value. It is only based upon anecdotal evidence. You know, personal experience living amongst them and actually interacting with them in the South of France, North Africa, Turkey... East of the Bosporus.

From: tonyo6302
09-Apr-18
Good post, Orionsbrother. JTV, I agree about the non-hatred.

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For example, I don't hate copperhead snakes. But I don't want them in my basement either.

I believe in modern times more people have died in Virginia due to Islam, than copperheads.

From: tonyo6302
09-Apr-18

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How dare you make light of this. You’re failure to mention Obama’s deep state shows your complete lack of understanding.

Infowars is clear on this or did you miss the latest installment of “we’re nuts but we think we have a firm grasp on things”.

Stepping out to cash my Soros checks now.

From: Bentstick81
09-Apr-18
"Stepping out to cash my Soros checks now." FINALLY, atheist typed something TRUTHFUL.

09-Apr-18
No need to be truly enlightened. No need to believe in grand conspiracies. It's quite simple. The idiocy and willful ignorance of the left are feeding the problem with no compulsion to consider the impact... short or long term.

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From: SJJ
09-Apr-18
I like Christopher Hitchen's......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCHHfBeu0QE

From: bigeasygator
09-Apr-18
Nobody forgets 9/11 TonyO. But what apparently gets forgot is that 9/11 basically brought us into war in two separate theaters, resulting in us overthrowing two governments and establishing laws and leadership that were in accordance with our wishes. People also seem to forget how much has changed with regards to National Security post-9/11. There's a reason we haven't seen anything remotely close to the scale of 9/11 in the years that have followed.

Does that mean there are no radical Islamists left in the world? No. Does that mean they won't try again? No. Does that mean we can stop being vigilant and should stop taking the fight to them? No.

It also doesn't mean that they are a threat to overthrow our laws and institute theirs. A handful of attacks from lone wolf style attackers each year is not something to lose sleep over. Our institutions aren't under any serious threat. Your health and safety is more threatened by falling TVs than by radical Islam (look it up).

I'll stop calling it hate. But what I'll say is the fear coming from some of you on here is disproportionately out of line with the threat to whatever it is you hold dear that you feel is at risk, be it your culture, your institutions, or your safety.

From: MT in MO
09-Apr-18
I'm sure the old English man said much the same before the gates were opened and the immigrants arrived..Keep ignoring the sanctuary cities, the open border policies of certain politicians and eventually we will have the same problems here they are having in Europe. If anyone thinks this happens overnight they just haven't been paying attention. The hard line islamics have been telling us their strategy for hundreds of years and they ain't kidding...It seems to happen in waves and then nothing for a long time, then another wave...go back to the 1100's and read the history forward from there. The pattern is there. Europe has been fighting back the Islamics for at least 1000 years. It is beginning to look as if the Islamics are getting the upper hand.

From: tonyo6302
09-Apr-18
"Nobody forgets 9/11 TonyO"

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Well, you sure seemed to forget how our Republic and Constitution was affected immediately by just a handful. You didn't even man up and admit you were dead wrong on that one.

Let me remind you again, since you have already forgotten since I posted it the first time; Patriot Act.

Again, Bigeasygator, more people have died in Virginia from Islamists than copperhead bites in my lifetime. I am not scared of copperheads, I just choose not to let them into my home due to the potential and documented instances of violence copperheads do. ( yes, I have captured several on my property )

I can drive 35 miles north of my home and go to a Mosque that preaches Jihad and hate towards Americans. Yes, right here in River City, VA.

Bury your head if ya want, I choose not to.

From: tonyo6302
10-Apr-18
How do the blooms look in China, LeftHandCanyonArcher?

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I figure that you must know since you got your head buried so far in the sand . . . . .

From: BIG BEAR
11-Apr-18

From: bigeasygator
11-Apr-18
Oh how the irony is lost on some.

From: sleepyhunter
11-Apr-18
""Exposing and eliminating the rotting, stinking, disease laden drivel the some posters leave laying around here is indeed a dirty job, but someone has to do it.""

Excellent tantrum Maxine. I can see Spike has once again caught himself the same fat slimy pontificating fish. (sorry Slade I couldn't resist).

From: sleepyhunter
11-Apr-18
""... .. at least I admit I'm an ass,""

Yes I'll admit I have the same fault. If we were all perfect. We would have no need for visiting the CF.

From: bigeasygator
11-Apr-18
“The number three most popular boy's name in St. Cloud MN, population 67,000 in 2017 was Mohamed.”

This is true. Henry was the number one name. There were roughly 3,000 babies born in the St. Cloud area in 2017 - sixteen of them (or roughly .5%) were named Mohammed.

From: BIG BEAR
12-Apr-18
Muslims represent 1% of the U.S. Population........ Here comes the Calipha......... Sheesh.........

From: bigeasygator
12-Apr-18
There’s no telling what it says about Muslim population trends. There is a decent Somali immigrant population in St. Cloud. That said, the rise in the name Mohamed could have more to do with the diversity of names used outside the Muslim community vs. inside the Muslim community. For the entire state of Minnesota, the name Mohamed is about as popular as the names Xavier and Maverick. Like BB said, hardly a sign of the rising caliphate. I bet the Muslim population in this country increases. It’s so low that there’s hardly anywhere for it to go but up. I default to the Pew Center who says that in the next thirty years it will DOUBLE!...all the way to 2% of the US poplulation.

From: sleepyhunter
12-Apr-18
""Muslims represent 1% of the U.S. Population........ Here comes the Calipha......... Sheesh""

It only took 19 terrorists to knock down the Twin Towers and fly into the Pentagon.......... Sheeesh.

From: bigeasygator
12-Apr-18
...and it only took two people to carry out the OKC bombing, one guy to shoot-up a concert in Vegas, one crazy cult leader to convince 918 people to drink cyanide. So yes, small groups of people intent on committing harm to others can be successful.

From: Will
12-Apr-18
BEG - drop the mic and walk away.

From: KSflatlander
12-Apr-18
Are any of you seriously suggesting that a person should be branded a terrorist or bad person based on their name? If yes, that says more about you than it does anyone named Mohamed. Good grief...

From: KSflatlander
12-Apr-18
The future gets here for those who live in reality and not fabricated irrational fear.

From: sleepyhunter
12-Apr-18
""...and it only took two people to carry out the OKC bombing, one guy to shoot-up a concert in Vegas, one crazy cult leader to convince 918 people to drink cyanide""

Turning the clock back a bit, it also only took 1 suicide terrorist to drive into a Marine compound in Beirut in 1983 and kill 283 Marines when he blew his bus up.

From: Grey Ghost
12-Apr-18
"The future is already here for some who didn't listen."

Umm....Spike, that link doesn't even support your argument. It clearly states Islamic migration to Germany fell drastically from 2016 to 2017, while migration from Poland, Romania, and Bulgaria rose.

Matt

From: Will
12-Apr-18

Will's Link
Pig doc, here is an example of why I noted BEG should drop the mic. Not a genius, regrettably I dont have quite enough IQ points for that qualification. https://www.snopes.com/news/2017/06/07/threat-extremists-more/

That said, there clearly is a desire to do "us" harm via extremist groups. On that we can all agree. Based on that info above, we have just as much to fear from domestic citizen based groups vs ISIS - at least on a daily basis.

From: bigeasygator
12-Apr-18
This^^^

The risk of Islamist extremism is commensurate with the risks of other forms of “terror.”

From: KSflatlander
12-Apr-18
You don’t trust Snopes so you go to right-wing nut sources and take it as gospel? We have many spy and security agencies that have a sole purpose of national security. They have a ton more evidence than you and Hannity’s anecdotal evidence. I know but what about 9/11 right? You all are talking about terrorist organizations overthrowing the government within or by force. I reject your premise to this whole discussion because all Muslims are NOT terrorists.

From: TD
12-Apr-18
Interesting discussion.

I'm betting they had the same discussion in Great Briton and France among others not long ago...... likely to the word.....

"Islamist's are coming!"

"No they are not.... nothing to worry about.... good folks, we need more like em..... you're just crazy and paranoid...."

That's working out very well isn't it...... and pretty clear as to who it was that really had their head...... in the sand shall we say.....

We have the actions and results already proving themselves right now..... as it happens, right in front of our faces if we were so inclined to actually look. It is nearly the same situations. Yet so many say "nawww, it could never happen here.... we're different...." Or completely ignore it, not happening where I live so won't effect me.....

I believe a good many policies, immigration as well as citizenship (voting) need to be looked at. As well as making sure Sharia has no place in any judicial/government system within the US. Any authorities, judges, LEOs that do use it or defer to it need to be replaced.

From: KSflatlander
12-Apr-18
As far as I can tell Britain and France are still independent nations. If ISIS occupied an adjacent country and had an military as large as ours then I would be worried. The WWII scenario was different. I assume if any organization or county destroyed our whole pacific fleet then they would meet the same faith as before.

If it is nuclear war you are worried about then I guess it doesn’t really matter how big our military is now does it. We are all screwed.

Isn’t the constitution already in place to prevent sharia...or any other religion from being a national? I’m not worried about that.

I just don’t see an “occupying force” as a legit concern for today. I don’t think our security agencies do either and they have all the info. I don’t see how we will ever prevent all terroist attacks. Terrorism is a legit concern but not so much that I’m going to hole up in some bunker.

Good discussion here. Thanks for not just throwing insults cause I don’t agree.

From: Will
12-Apr-18
Sorry Pig Doc. If you click on the link and read it, you will note MANY PRO conservative view points influencing the article positively. Sort of ironic, that I actually selected that article after a quick google because it was NOT VOX or similar super left (IE, the Lefts Breitbart) and they positively bring several conservative articles and what not into the discussion. Also note, that with a 5" google you could find more that say the same thing from a variety of angles. When you read the article, you can pull data, which is presented directly from Pew in much of the article... snopes collated it, but that's about it. The end point, was the ONLY important part relative to this discussion... Who did what.

There were a few more attacks by Islamic Extremists than by non islamic american citizens. If you pull out 9/11 and OKC, the non Islamic american citizens created a higher death toll than the Islamists. The article makes it clear that BOTH groups are legit threats to our security... But certainly presents data that suggests we have just about as much to worry about from locals as we do Islamists.

Look, I'm not trying to be a lefty pot stirring jerk. I'm finding busy debate on Bowsite fun, and enlightening. If you read the article - look at the data. It's interesting for sure. Fine, snopes may be left leaning. If that means it's not allowed on the CF, perhaps we should immediately assume anything from Foxnews, Brietbart, et al are absolutely not real and not worth viewing either. Each of those is solidly, to extremely right biased. So they can not possibly be presenting legitimate information either - since any degree of bias seems to suggest falsehood?

Look, it's a different view. read it, decide you dont like the data and stick to your belief's or change. All good. Use YOUR BS filter to cut bias off and look at the data.

From: Will
12-Apr-18
I wouldnt say short sighted, I'd say it was focused tightly to the specific question it was addressing - who does the terrorist activity here in the USA. Thus it was not drifting into things like European terrorism etc.

I'm with you, there is a clear danger there, that article clearly describes that given the stat's show how close those groups come. Heck, you could say it's more alarming since the home grown stuff had multiple sources, while the non home grown attacks were largely Islamic groups. My interpretation of the data there, is that if we laser focus on extreme Islam, we are going to miss a lot of dangerous folks percolating here.

Is it Muslims, or folks from countries that have a high/er Muslim population that are being brought here? Was it you PigDoc who noted St. Cloud? I dont remember... Regardless, when at my Mother in Law's in St. Paul it was (she just moved to Lake Shore) very clear the rate of Somali refugee's that were being brought in. Often groups would work to bringing them here, then all forms of support would go away - pretty brutal for all. Folks in the group trying to help, but running out of $... And folks from Somalia thinking they are about to make a living in the land of gold and honey only to figure out that you can be poor and have big issues here too.

From: TD
12-Apr-18
" If ISIS occupied an adjacent country and had an military as large as ours then I would be worried." That's not how it will happen. There will be no military involved at all.

They have already stated their goals and the methods they will use to achieve them. One can ignore all that and tell themselves (and others) it will never happen. Or a person can look up out of their lap and watch it as it is happening overseas before your eyes. Going exactly to plan.

9/11? Yeah I'd say a great many have forgotten. What, 17 years ago? I'm guessing some here weren't even popping zits yet back then. But if nothing changes that really will be like it never happened..... Obama and his Muslim Brotherhood already have set Iran on their path to nukes.

But no worries...... never happen..... that's as crazy as thinking a couple or four airliners will take out the twin towers, whack the pentagon, and take a shot at the capitol at any second.... stupid conspiracy theories....

From: bigeasygator
12-Apr-18
“It's a good read and many of Steyn's predictions are happening in Europe now.”

Oh yeah? Where in Europe?

From: bigeasygator
12-Apr-18

bigeasygator's Link
Lol...I’ve been to all those countries with the exception of the Scandanavian countries in the last few years. No, they are not about to be overrun by Muslims. In most parts of those countries you’re hard pressed to even find a Muslim.

Those forecasts of Muslim population growth are so fraught with ridiculous assumptions it’s not even funny. For a balanced, reasonable analysis, look at the Pew Center’s work (some of which is summarized in the attached Guardian link). You’ll see that there’s no country in Western Europe expected to have a Muslim population of over 11% of the total in the next dozen years. History has shown that these individuals will start looking more European, not vice versa.

From: BIG BEAR
12-Apr-18
Geeze .... by the time I die.... The US might be 2% Muslim.... I'd better run back into my bunker now...... They're going to overthrow our Government !!!

From: BIG BEAR
12-Apr-18
Have you forgotten ??? Have you forgotten what Japan did in Pearl Harbor ??? How many of you are driving Toyota trucks now ??? I'm not saying we'll be buying ISIS trucks in the future. I'm not saying ISIS is not a terrorist threat. I'm saying that there are 3 million Muslim American citizens that don't side with ISIS. I'm saying that Radical Islamic Terrorists are not going to overthrow our Government. I am a patriotic US Veteran....... but not a paranoid bunker dweller.

From: Will
12-Apr-18
Pig Doc, I know where you are talking... amazing change, and I've only been a MN regular visitor since 1999 after meeting my wife.

From: bigeasygator
12-Apr-18
Big Bear, you’re missing the point! The Muslim population of the USA might DOUBLE in that time!!! Seriously though, I get what you’re saying (hell, it’s what I’ve been saying)...but let’s face it...it’s not gonna change the mind of the paranoid delusionists among us.

From: TD
13-Apr-18
I live near Pearl Harbor. Been there a few times. There is a huge difference between forgiveness and getting on with life and forgotten. Yuge. Every "divorce" is unique and personal. Some may or may not relate.

Play games, make fun. The people being killed by knives, trucks, bombs as well as assaulted and raped in European countries may not find it so funny. If you were to have a Jewish bakery for instance in Europe..... guess you must sleep well at night.....

Seeing how you do not live in that.... guess it makes no difference.... none at all.....

From: BIG BEAR
13-Apr-18
I don't live in Europe. I live in the United States.

From: bigeasygator
13-Apr-18
Ive got lots of friends in Europe and I notice a very distinct attitude difference between Americans and Europeans as it relates to Islamist terror. They seem to do a much better job treating them like the rare events that they are.

I visited London about a week after the Burrough market attack and before we left I can’t tell you how many times I heard “you’re actually going to go?” I was having dinner with a friend in Edinburgh and I relayed this to him and he was basically shocked that it was getting so much attention and publicity stateside.

I think the best analogue for how they treat iterror events is basically how we treat mass shootings. We’re all saddened and outraged, but beyond prompting some folks to get their concealed carry permit, for the most part folks go right back to living with nothing changing and few lingering fears. We go right back in movie theaters and to concerts and hardly give a second thought to becoming the next victim of a mass shooter (which, in my opinion, is the appropriate response). This is how the bulk of the Europeans I’ve talked to respond to Islamist terror.

Maybe it’s because they do have higher Muslim populations over there and they recognize that 99.99999% of them are peaceful citizens, just like we view 99.99999% of white males as responsible citizens and we don’t get too worked up when a crazy one does something terrible.

From: BIG BEAR
13-Apr-18
Exactly Jason. The guys posting here don't seem to be as paranoid about when the next white American kid will kill dozens........ Maybe hate is not the appropriate word,,, But there are guys here that flat out don't like any Muslim.

From: sleepyhunter
13-Apr-18
""But there are guys here that flat out don't like any Muslim. ""

Trust would be a better description.

From: BIG BEAR
13-Apr-18
Further Tom...... That ship over at Pearl that you visited...... The Arizona........ my grandfather served our country on her. I followed his lead and served 7 years in the Navy too. I'm a Police Officer now and I was one when those bastards brought down the towers. No one needs to question if I remember that day that we lost so many brother first responders and American Citizens. I remember it like it was yesterday......

But today I serve alongside Muslim American Police Officers. They too are my brothers. They risk their lives every day to protect America. They are no more responsible for 9/11 than you are....... and they are no more likely to commit a terrorist attack than you or I...........

From: tonyo6302
13-Apr-18
bigeasygator, I travel to Europe all the time, too, and have watched the Islamist invasion with my eyes. I wear my prescription glasses. I would suggest you do too, because there is a lot of things you are not seeing, that I do without trying.

From: BIG BEAR
13-Apr-18
The growing Muslim population that might be as high as 2% of the US population by the time we're dead........

Do you spend as much time worrying about home grown American terrorists ??

From: BIG BEAR
13-Apr-18
Your article says that the desire by Muslims to have Sharia as the law of the land (for Muslims only)........ Varies by country...... It gave some examples of countries where only one in ten Muslims were in favor of Sharia......... And it conveniently left out the U.S.

Your article also said that 75% of the Muslims interviewed worldwide said that religious extremism such as suicide bombings are never justified. Your article once again failed to clarify the Muslim Americans stance on this. I would bet it's closer to 100% ..... The 25% who believe in that stuff are going to be found in countries like Afghanistan.......

From: BIG BEAR
13-Apr-18
Any of you guys heard of Mohammad Gulab ?? He's one of those scary Muslims you don't trust. He's a Texan.

He's the guy who saved Marcus Luttrell from the Taliban.

From: BIG BEAR
13-Apr-18
The threat of another kid shooting up a school is real too. I'm aware of it. I support efforts to stop it from happening..... But I'm not going to spend my life focused on it or the threat of any terrorist attack for that matter. Rape and violence in Europe ?? I guess I won't move there.

From: BIG BEAR
13-Apr-18
Oh my God Spike...... You must sit all day long and surf creepyshariamuslimsscareme.net........ you found another 2011 article that predicts the fall of the US to the boogeymuslims !!! You are sad.

From: BIG BEAR
13-Apr-18
This time I'm really done..... For good here on the CF.........

Some of you whacked out right wing nut jobs are just too much for me. I refuse to live my life like you with the constant thoughts of negativity in your heads. I'm done wasting my time and energy here.... It is completely pointless.......

From: BIG BEAR
13-Apr-18
See ya SZ

From: sleepyhunter
13-Apr-18
""This time I'm really done..... For good here on the CF........""

I've read that statement before. Time will tell.

From: BowSniper
13-Apr-18
No one ever leaves.... they just come back under a different alias. Lol

From: Atheist
13-Apr-18
He'll come back. There's plenty of other topics to talk about other than Muslium's.

From: Bentstick81
13-Apr-18
atheist the LYING FRAUD is back.8^))) Tired of your fav IMposter?? What a PHONY a$$. 8^))))

From: Sixby
16-Apr-18
Be happy!! Don't worry!! Those Mouslims are just the JV team. They will never be a threat> They love America.

Ignorance is not bliss and the wise are informed and not afraid of being informed. If anyone on here is so ignorant of the goal of Islamist and how they are working for Allah to accomplish that goal then they should not be so arrogant but should actually investigate Islam and find out what it really is. God bless, Steve

From: slade
16-Apr-18
Recorded machete attacks in the UK have shot up by nearly five times in just three years, with the majority in the capital, London.

The huge number of crimes committed with the deadly, sword-like weapons means there is an average of 15 a day in the UK, or one every 90 minutes.

From: slade
17-Apr-18
Riots, Cars Burned After Woman Ordered to Remove Full-Face Islamic Veil

From: bigeasygator
19-Apr-18

bigeasygator's embedded Photo
bigeasygator's embedded Photo
bigeasygator's embedded Photo
bigeasygator's embedded Photo
It sure isn’t, KPC.

From: slade
19-Apr-18
If the the pontificator w/ his italics and his progressive minion in tow were fair and balanced as the blatherskite's claim, they would be posting the mounds of evidence of the Christian's Jew's, Buddhists etc.. and their machete attacks in London.

These same critical clowns would also be posting pictures of the same groups rioting and burning cars due to a preceded religious offence as when one of their progressive minions under the disguise of ART displayed one of their religious bigoted pictures etc..

From: slade
19-Apr-18
No this thread has turned into another one of your dishonest faux Critical Pontificating Thought Police spins italic's and all.

From: slade
19-Apr-18
Pull your pants up pontificator, your disingenuous nature is bleeding thru .

From: slade
19-Apr-18
Oh, OK snowflake.

From: sleepyhunter
19-Apr-18
KPC, I believe everyone has intelligently supported their arguments, you accepting it is another story.

From: Thumper
19-Apr-18
"The islamic swine must be dealt with wherever they are found, most importantly when they are found here. That would include any who would support their ideals. They are not the only occupiers though. In this country today a more immediate problem is anyone here illegally. Not only occupiers, but invaders."

I flat refuse to do business with them and spend my money else where.

From: slade
20-Apr-18
Keep spinning and twisting with your precious italtic's pontificator

From: slade
20-Apr-18
Swedish Schools Increase Security, Hire Guards After Rising Violence Towards Teachers migrationPATRICK KOVARIK/AFP/Getty by CHRIS TOMLINSON20 Apr 2018105

Schools across Sweden have increased security, including hiring security guards, after a rise in violence towards teachers. According to a new survey, 70 per cent of Swedish municipalities have installed security cameras and hired security guards as teachers are finding themselves increasingly threatened by both their students as well as parents, Swedish broadcaster SVT reports.

Sabina Bellanius, a teacher at a school in the heavily migrant populated city of Malmö and the city’s Ombudsman’s Teachers’ Association head, said: “It’s abusive discrimination, psychological and physical violence. I have a colleague that tried to separate a brawl but got his knee knocked out and today lives on cortisone injections.”

From: bigeasygator
20-Apr-18
Yes, they are “paranoid.” If you read Spike’s links you’d think that we are a Ramadan or two from Sharia law displacing the Constitution and that terrorist attacks committed by the the jihadi invaders must surely be one of the leading causes of death in this country. On the other hand, it’s also possible to condemn and root out radical behavior, while at the same time appropriately contextualizing the threat it poses to your safety and the institutions of this country.

Or, you can keep believe everything you read on creepingsharia.com. One is paranoid, one isn’t.

From: slade
20-Apr-18

From: slade
20-Apr-18

slade's Link
Syrian Migrant Beats 21-Year-Old “Jewish Man” With Belt For Wearing Kippa In Berlin

From: Grey Ghost
21-Apr-18

Grey Ghost's embedded Photo
Grey Ghost's embedded Photo
A little perspective...

Matt

From: bad karma
21-Apr-18
GG, while that list may be mathematically correct, the 9-11-01 terror attacks hammered the economy, making the entire country a victim of that event. Death is not the only consequence of such acts.

From: Grey Ghost
21-Apr-18
Kevin, 9/11 was an isolated event 17 years ago, which hasn't been replicated since. Cardiovascular disease costs out economy over $300 billion EVERY year.

Matt

From: bad karma
21-Apr-18
JTV, your last few posts were totally uncalled for.

From: bad karma
21-Apr-18
I'll also suggest you don't run your life based on a TV show.

But the petty attacks on KPC are wearing awful thin.

From: slade
21-Apr-18
""Anyone of any consequence "" there you have it..........

From: bad karma
21-Apr-18
Spike, you consider any attempt to hold you accountable as a petty attack. Show me a real one.

From: Sixby
21-Apr-18
Most BLM members are driven by extremism. Hate theology of the radical black churches and by radical black Islamics such as L. Farakahn and followers fuel the BLM movement. Therefore there is a comp between Islamism and BLM and BLM and Antifa as they all desire similar goals to be accomplished.

God bless, Steve

From: sleepyhunter
21-Apr-18
Spike, you keep posting topics you believe are important. Don't pay any attention to the whiners.

22-Apr-18

If every thread must descend into something akin to old ladies swinging purses at each other, please make an effort to be more entertaining and witty with your barbs and insults.

"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go." -- Oscar Wilde

From: sleepyhunter
23-Apr-18
"I told certain posters well over a year ago that I would never respond to them again. I haven't nor will I, in spite of their repeated attempts to goad me into it. ",

Yep, that's a whopper there.

From: bigeasygator
23-Apr-18
The violence is reprehensible. Unfortunately, this is really nothing new in Pakistan (seeing as Muslims make up 98% of Pakistan, I don't see how this really fits into the "incremental occupation" narrative).

More fundamentally, I also agree that it's a reprehensible for a religious majority to discriminate against a religious minority that only represents about 1.5% of the population of a given country. Nice to see you're coming around, Spike.

From: sleepyhunter
23-Apr-18
"" Responding to someone, and talking to someone else about something that was posted are completely different things. ""

False. Nice try though.

From: slade
23-Apr-18
BREAKING: Van Strikes MULTIPLE Pedestrians in Toronto – Update: Police Have Arrested a Suspect – NINE DEAD

Police: "Why'd you do it?"

Perp: "For Allah the merciless!"

Police: "What was you motivation?"

Perp: "I keel for Allah!"

Police: "Come on, what's your motivation?"

Perp: "Read the unholy Qur'an!"

Police: "No, your REAL motivation."

Perp: "Sharia will conquer! ???? ??? ????!!"

Final ""Pontifcating Critical Thought Police"" Report:

Nothing useful learned from suspect. Motive unknown. Just another everyday mow them down sidewalk killing.

From: bigeasygator
23-Apr-18

bigeasygator's Link
Suspect is identified as Alek Minassian. Haven’t seen anything suggesting he’s Muslim in any of the reporting thus far.

From: slade
23-Apr-18
So now the appeasement monkey Canadians are calling Islam a "mental Illness" while the PCTP joke.

""At this time, officials have not determined a motive for the horrific crash. But U.S. law enforcement officials told CBS News that the incident appeared to be a deliberate act. Bill Bratton, a former New York City police commissioner, told MSNBC that his sources said that driver was known to police. Toronto police spokeswoman Meaghan Gray said, “At this point it’s too early to tell what if any motive there was.”

Jonathan Dienst from NBC News reported that three officials were saying the leading theory for today’s horrific crash was mental illness.""

From: sleepyhunter
23-Apr-18
For a guy who is always saying act like an "Adult". KPC, your last post is childish.

From: sleepyhunter
24-Apr-18
""It is quite adult sleepy.""

It's quite childish KPC. Critical thinking fail. Never make fun of a situation where innocent people have murdered.

From: sleepyhunter
26-Apr-18
When KPC gets his feelings hurt a tantrum is not far behind. Mr slade is living rent free in his feeble pontificating pea brain. Yes Spike I'll scrape him off and throw away the stick and keep moving forward.

From: sleepyhunter
27-Apr-18
KPC, I've never had any trouble getting laid. Hence, I would never need to visit a website for creepy guys who can't get laid. I agree with Spike, it's no surprise to me you are aware of such a website.

From: sleepyhunter
02-May-18
"" They've allowed me to live rent free in their heads for quite some time now. ""

KPC, don't kid yourself. You won't find me spending time looking up creepy websites. I simply enjoy making fun of you.

From: slade
04-May-18
“Exaggerated feelings of moral superiority"

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