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From: Michael
10-Apr-18
Has anyone been watching it? I can’t help but find a some humor in it. On the other hand Facebook went from a platform to a publisher”

Got to love when Feinstein got the timeline and facts wrong in Cambridge.

Hatch asks Zuckerberg “ How do you sustain a business model in which users don’t pay for your service?”

Zuckerberg “Senator we run ads”

Senator Cruz asked the best question “Does Facebook consider itself a neutral public forum?”

From: JTV
10-Apr-18

JTV's Link
someone needs to ask the rich punk about these two and why they were censored by FB the way they were ... I know why, because they are two intelligent black ladies that speak their mind who happen to support Trump... that is why FB censored them ..

http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2018/04/10/diamond-and-silk-accuse-facebook-discrimination-censorship-over-unsafe-label.html

From: Shuteye
10-Apr-18
He would have had it made if all the senators questioned him like Booker. He used his five minutes running his mouth instead of asking questions. Ted Cruz was the best and showed Facebook is against conservatives. Just the fact that Diamond and Silk are considered dangerous to the community is very telling.

From: Michael
10-Apr-18
I follow diamond and silk on FB. For awhile there I was wondering what happened to them. They had disappeared. Come to find out they were censored.

Another is Alfonzo Rachel he was censored for awhile as well.

From: JTV
10-Apr-18
this is the way the left works ... PutZ and lefty are so proud of their masters.... look at what has been done on Campus's by the left, shutting down conservative speakers.. there is no longer the 1st Amendment in many of these places .. heck, violence is the norm if one dosnt adhere to and and bow to the Antifa twits ... wear a MAGA hat on campus and see what happens ... you are physically attacked and verbally abused by these people ....

From: Shuteye
10-Apr-18

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Here is the video of Ted Cruz. Had to wait two hours into the hearing before anyone had guts enough to bring up how bias Facebook is to conservatives.

From: JTV
10-Apr-18
nice tip toe and dodge Suckerbreg did with Cruz ... typical...

10-Apr-18
Just like you guys are famous for saying here. This is a private enterprise. The 1A is not guaranteed on a private platform like FB. Isnt that the essence of owning your own company? I don't like it anymore than I like being censored here. Ive had complete posts taken down, photos taken down and I"m sure I'm not the only one. So don't be a hypocrite. FB can take down and put up whatever they want. Just like the CF does all the time!

From: Shuteye
10-Apr-18

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John Kennedy got him good too.

From: Bentstick81
10-Apr-18
your fav IMposter. If you wouldn't LIE on every thread, and be willing to change your ways, you wouldn't have those problems. We are being a hypocrite for exposing a LIAR, that wants to continue to be a LIAR. Yep, what a dumba$$. 8^)))

From: woodguy65
10-Apr-18

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From: keepemsharp
10-Apr-18
He should decide to become a politician. He WILL NOT answer yes or no. Always answer with a deflection discussion. One senator repeated the question FOUR times and he would not say yes or no. The question was "would you support legislation to limit young folks access.

From: TD
10-Apr-18
Basically they CLAIM to be something they are not, and then knowingly lie to the public as to what they really are and what they really do.......

I'm certainly not shocked PaulZ is a huge fan of their running a private company so. Fits his MO to a tee.....

Personally, they can run it any way they wish. But need to be publicly called out on their knowing lies and deceitful claims. Exposed as to who they really are. Over and over..... As all liars should be.......

From: ahunter55
10-Apr-18
Some of the people asking questions were just taking up space as usual, Cruz did good & definitely made him pay attention. One thing, he's a good dancer like many politicians on answers.. He didn't make 66 Billion without doing something wrong..

From: Woods Walker
10-Apr-18
**** ZUCK!!!!

From: Michael
10-Apr-18
I am curious if this is the beginning of the end of FB.

I asked the same question on FB. It’s amazing how many people are uniformed or flat don’t care about what’s going on with FB.

From: JTV
10-Apr-18
one good reason Ive never done FB nor Twitter ....I get in enough trouble on here ;0)

From: ColoBull
10-Apr-18
BookFace. They used to laugh at me for being so out of touch.

From: Woods Walker
10-Apr-18
I've never been on it. I was considering it for advertising my business but after this no way.

**** ZUCK!

From: scentman
11-Apr-18
He just reminded me of the girl that went before Pelosi some yrs back wanting her birth control pills acting all cutsie... Zuckerberg thought he did a good job, but in reality he dodged questions and acted as if the panel were ignorant.

From: Woods Walker
11-Apr-18
You mean like a liberal does?

From: Mint
11-Apr-18
Funny how these big liberal companies like Facebook and Google say they are ethical and good but they are far from it.

From: K Cummings
11-Apr-18
"Zuckerberg thought he did a good job, but in reality he dodged questions and acted as if the panel were ignorant."

From what I saw, to a large extent those asking the questions were ignorant. If I were Zuckerberg, I would have had a hard time not responding to some of those questions with "Are you serious, did you really just ask that?"

I don't happen to like Zuckerberg and I certainly don't agree with his liberal politics, but I don't think he performed poorly. He was respectful, to the point, and for the most part I felt he was honest. I think he was guarded and I don't think he offered anything he didn't have to, but why would he? This wasn't a social visit in any way shape or form. The piranhas (on both sides) asking the questions were looking for blood and Zuckerberg is smart enough to know that every word he said can and will be used against him.

I really struggle with the notion that FB, a private entity, has to be fair when it comes to what content they allow and what content they suppress. Some of the same people that are demanding that fairness are the same people that adamantly reject the notion that a baker must bake a cake for a gay wedding. Other than scale, it really is no different.

At the end of the day, if people don't like FB's policies, they can start their own platform or they can just not join. Nobody is holding a gun to anyone's head and forcing them to reveal every aspect of their lives to the entire world.

KPC

From: Brotsky
11-Apr-18
It's amazing to me that liberals claim this is freedom of expression by a private company when out of the other side of their mouth they hammer down freedom of religion by a private company when they decide they don't want to bake a cake. Liberal hypocrisy truly knows no bounds.

From: bigeasygator
11-Apr-18

From: bigeasygator
11-Apr-18

From: K Cummings
11-Apr-18
" It's amazing to me that liberals claim this is freedom of expression by a private company when out of the other side of their mouth they hammer down freedom of religion by a private company when they decide they don't want to bake a cake. Liberal hypocrisy truly knows no bounds

Let's be honest. The hypocrisy is alive and well on both sides of this one.

KPC

From: Woods Walker
11-Apr-18
YUP! Just like you stoners.

From: Michael
11-Apr-18
I wish I could share YouTube clips on here. Smart phones are not so smart. Haha

Rep Billy Long told Zuckerberg “congress does 1 of two things either we do nothing or we overreact. We are about to overreact.”

From: woodguy65
11-Apr-18
You have to admit some of these old guys questioning him about FB and technology sounded as stupid as liberals talking about guns.

FB is ran by lefties and will be slanted in what they control...news flash.

Business opputunity for someone, create a Fox News type of competitor for FB and Twitter.

11-Apr-18

Spike Bull 's Link
Many Soros-Democrat operatives newly employed by FB.

From: Squash
11-Apr-18
LHCA, I have to agree, it explains why a businessman was elected President. People are sick of electing ,career, dumbass, lawyer ,out of touch ,politicians.

Their questioning of Zuckerberg exposed the stupidity of Congress again. If you fail to be successful at anything in life, you can always become a politician.

From: Shuteye
11-Apr-18
When you come right down to it there are congress people, who can't balance a budget, trying to tell a billionaire how to run his business.

From: JTV
11-Apr-18
"If you fail to be successful at anything in life, you can always become a politician." ... or sell dope ...

From: Michael
11-Apr-18

Michael's embedded Photo
Michael's embedded Photo

From: JTV
11-Apr-18
There Lefty goes again with his threats and violence again... ... again he has nuthin'

From: Squash
11-Apr-18
Michael, I don’t have a fb account and rarely go on my wife’s, I think it is harmful. If you disagree with what he is doing to peoples data, the solution is simple, stay off FB.

Also, I don’t care for Zuckerberg. But portraying him as a child sitting in a high chair, is laughable. He was the smartest person in the room, and has made several more billion $, while testifying. Congress could learn from him on how to run a business or country successfully.

From: Shuteye
11-Apr-18
We really have some sharp people in the House, one asked zuckerberg how do they make those little a's with a circle around them. Honest, right in front of the cameras that was asked. @

From: Michael
11-Apr-18
Squash,

I have been on FB since it pretty much started. I don’t have any concerns about FB having my data. The data breech was threw an outside app in FB. I wasn’t part of it so my data wasn’t shared. I also have an Instagram account, Twitter account and snap chat. My teenage daughter has been a big influence on my social media presence.

I am well aware of how smart Zuckerberg is. I am also aware of how much money he gives away.

The high chair meme is actually more of a joke on Congress then Zuckerberg. The old duffers of Congress treating Zuckerberg like a young kid. I don’t agree with the censorship but it’s his site so for now it’s his rules.

From: JTV
11-Apr-18
lefty lefty lefty.... again you've got nothing, except proving once again what we all know about a dope dealing left leaning fool like yourself ... thanks for playing ...lol ...

From: Woods Walker
11-Apr-18
It must be the PCP he mixes with his weed.

From: pipe
11-Apr-18
Zuckerberg,...good for him. He is smart and started a novel, high tech business and earns lots of money for himself and lots of others. He and "his" FB (yes his FB with a liberal slant and censorship which is regrettable) did nothing wrong, and neither did Trump! Obama leveraged the same high tech FB social outreach and then more!...this would not be a story if Clinton had won the election... Zuckerberg in front of the Congress is such a folly and total show. As was previously suggested, the play field is wide open for a similar high tech social network though with a conservative approach and appeal.

From: slade
11-Apr-18
Watch it JTV, Lefty-tutu is going to ninja you with his shitzu moves.

From: JTV
11-Apr-18
Pffft ....

From: TD
12-Apr-18
I don't think anyone has said their censorship was illegal. But certainly some pressure could be brought to bear from a PR standpoint. Getting them to come right out and state they censor conservative ideology, religious or political views they disagree with would be..... awkward for them. Could mean big losses of "product" (not customers, the membership is in reality is the product they grow, produce and sell.) And all happening at a time the brand itself is taking hits from all sides.

What they MAY have some legal and ethical issues with is allowing third parties unfettered access to personal information. After 2012 I believe they were forced to make changes to their "membership" agreement to better protect users of the platform. In reality they pretty much just blew that off and continued to go on about their very profitable business...... THAT is what this was supposed to be about. But you're not going to get too many high and tight fastballs thrown at you from the very people you donate a good deal of money to for their campaigns......

12-Apr-18
Legal or not their censorship is just more of the old alynski playbook that forms the destroy-America-agenda of the left and these hearings helped expose that in a major light.

The America hating Soros-Democrats are finally being called out, even the left wont be able to ignore or hide who they truly are from themselves much longer. We already know them, it is they themselves who need to learn their own ugly truth.

So long as these hearings, and/or anything else, brings that to light I will applaud that effort regardless of who executes it.

We continue to walk along a very dangerous path to a corporatist government. That needs serious scrutiny and reining in the scope and power of such tech giants as FB, Amazon, and Google may be necessary.

From: Squash
12-Apr-18
So how do we reign them in ? Have congress pass more regulations ? If so, it will benefit Zuckerberg and FB. His company has enough money and expertise to weather these possible new regulations. Any small conservative alternative to FB company trying to start up, will be restrained by the new regulations and will go broke before it gets started.

This is true for all small business, government regulations are small business killers.

12-Apr-18
They didnt have any trouble breaking up ATT.

From: Michael
12-Apr-18
Squash, Your questions are exactly why FB wants Net Neutrality. Zuckerberg even made a comment about Net Neutrality when he was talking to the senate.

I think Rep Long’s comment about “congress does two things. Either they do nothing or they over react.” I can see them over reacting like usual.

From: Grey Ghost
12-Apr-18
I've never had a FB account, never used it, and never will. So, all of this is rather meaningless to me. They could shut it down today and it wouldn't affect me or my wife in the least.

Matt

From: sleepyhunter
12-Apr-18
FB is ok to visit if you don't let it dominate your life. It's good for finding old friends. Some people take it way to extreme with their politics. When I run into that I block the person or unfollow their news feed. I'm there to visit with family/friends. Not get the current news.

From: K Cummings
12-Apr-18
You bring up some very valid points squash. Points that seem to be lost on those that just wish to stick it to a liberal leaning private business.

If I don't like the way FB works, I can choose to not participate. The only information they have about me is what I willingly chose to share. The last thing I want (or need) is for the government, Republicans or Democrats, to impose additional regulations on any aspect of my life.

Regulations cut both ways. It just surprises me how those that claim to be conservatives seem more than willing to have the heavy hand of government make things fair.

Think about some of the far right "news" sites that certain posters love to post links to here on the CF. I wonder how those posters would feel if the feds started regulating their content? Careful what you wish for. Today it's Facebook, tomorrow it might be Freedom Outpost, Bowsite or creepingsharia.com.

KPC

From: Annony Mouse
12-Apr-18

From: Grey Ghost
12-Apr-18
I think FB has contributed to a generation of socially misfit young people. I'd love to see it shut down.

Matt

From: K Cummings
12-Apr-18
"I think FB has contributed to a generation of socially misfit young people. I'd love to see it shut down."

So has Apple. Would you like to see them shut down too?

KPC

From: keith
12-Apr-18
It was funny to see Zuck in a suit instead of his usual t-shirt and jeans.

From: Grey Ghost
12-Apr-18
"So has Apple. Would you like to see them shut down too?

Cell phones are just a tool to access sites like FB. That said, I could easily live without my cell phone, too. Technology doesn't always improve quality of life, IMO.

Matt

From: Michael
12-Apr-18
Since apple was mentioned.

Someone took a photo of Zuckerbergs notes while he was sitting in front of congress. He was prepared to call out Apple as well as amazon if he needed to.

From: K Cummings
12-Apr-18
"Cell phones are just a tool to access sites like FB."

Come on Matt, you know better than that. Without smart phones, most social media platforms, including and especially Facebook, would be completely irrelevant for most kids. It was, and continues to be the smart phone that has caused the boom in social media of all kinds. It's only fossils like us that access the internet via a computer.

So, would you like Apple shut down also?

KPC

From: Grey Ghost
12-Apr-18
Kevin,

I'm not sure why you insist on comparing Apple to FB. Smart phones serve far more purposes than just internet access. So, no, I wouldn't want Apple shut down.

Having said that, it wouldn't hurt my feelings if they eliminated internet access from cell phones.

Matt

From: K Cummings
12-Apr-18
"I'm not sure why you insist on comparing Apple to FB.

That's simple. Because you said "FB has contributed to a generation of socially misfit young people. I'd love to see it shut down."

I'm simply saying that comparatively, the smart phone (Apple being the leader in that arena) has contributed much more to what you describe than Facebook ever has or ever will. So surely, it would only make sense that you'd love to see that shut down too.

Besides, ask anyone under the age of 25 and they will tell you that Facebook is for old fogies like us. They use Snapchat, Instagram, and to a lesser extent Twitter...and the smartphone is what makes them all possible.

KPC

From: Grey Ghost
12-Apr-18
Smart phones allow for wireless communication, navigation, pics, video, calendars, alarm clocks, instant messages...just to name a few. Internet access is just one function of an otherwise very useful tool. So, again, I find your question rather silly.

Matt

From: K Cummings
12-Apr-18
Of course you do Matt.

Probably about as silly as I found your insinuation that Facebook is somehow responsible for young people that are “social misfits,” and how liberals think assault rifles are responsible for mass shootings.

KPC

From: bowbender77
12-Apr-18
No doubt that ZUCK is a total lefty political weasel.

From: Grey Ghost
12-Apr-18
Kevin,

If anything, your argument is akin to the liberal side of the gun debate. You are blaming the tool (smart phones) rather that the root cause of the behavior.

Social media sites have created a impersonal fantasy land in which the users identity and sense of self-worth is defined by how many likes, or friends, or followers, or retweets they get. The content is often cherry-picked "look at me" moments that portray a skewed picture of reality, or it's simply choreographed make believe. It's the social equivalent of fake news.

You may disagree, and I'm fine with that, but I think the world was as better place without social media.

Matt

From: TD
12-Apr-18

TD's embedded Photo
TD's embedded Photo
Good luck wid dat.... =D

From: K Cummings
12-Apr-18
"You may disagree, and I'm fine with that, but I think the world was as better place without social media."

That's what our parents said about rock and roll.

:)

KPC

From: Grey Ghost
12-Apr-18
My parents loved classic rock and roll.

Rap, on the other hand, is the devil's music.

;-)

Matt

From: Michael
12-Apr-18
From what I have seen with my daughter and her friends. FB is indeed a social platform for older people. It’s glamour has wore off. Snap chat on the other hand is a different situation. My daughter has 290,000 snaps and counting. To top it off she is constantly updating her “my story” an snap chat.

The good news is I know a great deal of what she is up to the majority of time. The bad news is I know what she is up to without even talking to her.

From: Shuteye
12-Apr-18
Hillary liked Snap Chat too.

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