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Wednesday, June 27, 2018

Most voters fear that political violence is coming from opponents of the president’s policies, just as they did in the second year of Barack Obama’s presidency, and nearly one-in-three think a civil war is next.

Thirty-one percent (31%) of Likely U.S. Voters say it’s likely that the United States will experience a second civil war sometime in the next five years, with 11% who say it’s Very Likely. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 59% consider a second civil war unlikely, but that includes only 29% who say it’s Not At All Likely. (To see survey

Snowflakes don't have the guts like their grand-parents did...

NBC News quoted Waters speaking to reporters over the weekend, saying, “If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd and you push back on them, and you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere.”

Waters made her comments over the same weekend that White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders and her family were refused service at The Red Hen in Lexington, Virginia, and followed off the premises. Mediaite reports it was also the very weekend on which Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi was confronted with screams from “huge” angry men at the Tampa Theatre, forcing her departure.

Now voices as disparate as actor James Woods, law professor John Banzhaf, and Crime Prevention Research Center’s John Lott are advising individuals in the left’s crosshairs to get guns and/or concealed carry permits.

Woods tweeted:

Buy guns. Vote. Violence is the next stop on the #MadMaxine slippery slope. We WILL fight back. https://t.co/BRBXAgXi5u

— James Woods (@RealJamesWoods) June 25, 2018

The Washington Examiner quoted professor Banzhaf making a similar argument but addressing it more specifically to aides of Trump. Banzhaf said:

High level officials in the Trump administration, especially if their faces are likely to be recognized by many in the public as a result of appearances on TV, might want to consider applying for a license to carry a concealed weapon in the District of Columbia, and/or other states they frequent, in view of the call by Rep. Maxine Waters for the public to “absolutely harass” these officials in public places, and other recent events indicating the increased danger they are in.

Lott observed, “There are simply not enough police in D.C. or Virginia or Maryland to protect all Trump officials at their homes and when they go out to restaurants. Getting a concealed handgun permit would be helpful to protect themselves and their family.”

INCOMING!!!!!

It seems some folks around here actually relish the thought of a civil war. As if they want our country to be a shithole like much of the Middle East and central Africa. That's sad, IMO.

Matt

WTF. NEVER PLANNED NEVER HAPPENNED

Did you know Trump is going to eat lunch tomorrow unless the insane of the world interrupt it!

Life. Get one

WW, is that hyperbole, or do you really feel like you're at that point right now? Is your life so oppressed in the US, that you're ready to die tomorrow fighting against that oppression? If so, I pray for you.

The last I checked you live in the heartland of Illinois. Have you ever traveled to the Middle East or central Africa to see what true oppression is? if not, perhaps you should. You may return with a new appreciation for your country.

I honestly thought this doom and gloom mentality that festers in some of you might subside when Trump was elected. Instead the infection seems to have magnified.

I truly hope you can find a way to celebrate your life in the US, instead of mourn the loss of some idealistic imaginary yesteryear gone by.

You may think I wear rose colored glasses. And you'd be right in certain lights. But, when you see nothing but darkness, shades won't help at all.

Matt

If we do ever get to that point it will be because WE let it happen.

When I hear people act excited about a civil war because we have a hard time finding common ground, I wonder if they have any sense of what that means.

It's not good for anyone. Not even close.

And that doesn't even touch on the subject of our military intervening to stabilize the country. US military officers are overwhelmingly conservative and US soldiers/marines are the most disciplined and professional force the world has ever seen. Any attempt of a socialist/communist/anarchist force to actually take over the country would get pummeled into submission in very short order. Likewise, any attempt at a coup to take over the upper echelons of our government, would be wiped out in short order.

I've talked with liberal friends who have become more militant in the past 2 years and some of them actually think this would be a good thing and think they'd have a shot at winning. When I point out just the gun disparity, they say, "yeah, they are really well-armed..."

US citizens are so well armed, not even Russia could take over the US unless they used nukes or shelled the entire country. I always though Red Dawn was such a ridiculous movie. They'd have never even got that far.

Much less a bunch of 19 year old socialists who grew up in suburbia.

In all seriousness, I just don’t see the political landscape in this country or the state of the Union being all that different over the last 30 years or so of my life.

People have said the same despicable crap about politicians and threatened them with violence (and in some extreme cases, have acted on those threats). I heard plenty of people say some pretty disgusting things during the last administration and folks thought the country was on the verge of falling apart then. Those people were wrong then and people are wrong now.

But hey, if it goes that way I’m stocked up!

Chicago for many years starting in 1982, had an outright handgun BAN with no "grandfather" clause. One day you were perfectly legal to own a handgun and the next day it was "turn them in or you're a FELON". This did NOT apply of course, to the Chicago aldermen/mayor. They could not only possess but carry. This led to the McDonald vs Chicago case which was a result of Heller. Thank God this did happen but had it not it would have been a step towards a civil war had they tried to do it state wide.

Ahhh yes. Corruption and politicians acting above the law. A phenomena of the last 30 years. Lol You really can’t be serious, right? Like I know you hate HRC, and that’s cool and all, but you can’t seriously think that this is a new thing that is actually worse now than it has been in the past.

Matt

They do it every day. Don’t believe me, come to NOLA. Couldn’t agree more with Matt.

GG, that whole thing is spot on... but that last sentence is the key. Takes WAY more strength, determination, study and effort to do that... But the right thing to do is never easy.

Some times I think the biggest political challenge in the country is actually that the extreme views are the only ones being put forth loud enough for people to hear them. Left or right. It's physics, see a view that's extreme, tend to respond with an equal and opposite response. Media, social media... all you see are the extremes, not reality.

A few months ago I read Bill O'Reilly's book about the Patriots. The Founding Fathers, etc. Pretty good book. I'm sure there's some slant in there, but I didn't go looking for it. I admittedly haven't read a whole lot about that time period. I'm far more interested in American western expansion history, WWII history, etc. The point is, I haven't read enough about that period to know or think that there was anything falsely stated in O'Reilly's Patriots book.

One thing that struck me in the book was how people then were as polarized as today. I guess I always assumed our revolution was founded on an overwhelming portion of the populace being in support of freedom from England, and a minority of "Tories." I admit to being a little surprised to learn that it was probably closer to 50/50. English sympathizers burning Washington's effigy and hanging likenesses of Washington from nooses. The same sort of stuff that got Kathy Griffin in trouble, and then famous

Actually sounded a lot like today, but they didn't have Twitter, Facebook, Instagram and everything else to post about it

I think the last election showed that the civil war has already begun. Whether it will escalate into wholesale violence, I don't know. I hope not, as that is not the world I would want my daughter to grow up in. But there's a definite battle line, and it comes down to city v. rural. Just look at that last election map. Except for parts of southern Texas and New Mexico, the blue areas are all urban, and the red areas are all rural.

More than likely what will happen is while we're so busy fighting among ourselves we'll be blind-sided by a foreign entity we never saw coming.

It would only turn to bloodshed today when your very persoanl wellbeing, liberty, and life is in peril on a national level.

Those who struggle the least often lick the hand of oppression...

> CIVIL WAR by Dr. Jack Minzey > A few weeks ago Dr. Jack Minzey sent the final chapter in his long line of books and treatises. Jack passed away on 4/08/2018. > > Professionally, Jack was head of the Department of Education at Eastern Michigan University as well as a prolific author of numerous books, most of which were on the topic of Education and the Government role therein. > His interest in Conservative Politics was exceeded only by his intellectual ability. This is his final work. > > CIVIL WAR > > How do civil wars happen? > > Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can't settle the question through elections because they don't even agree that elections are how you decide who's in charge. That's the basic issue here. Who decides who runs the country? When you hate each other but accept the election results, you have a country. When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war. > > The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from office and overturning the results of an election. We all know that. But it's not the first time they've done this. The first time a Republican president was elected this century, they said he didn't really win. The Supreme Court gave him the election. There's a pattern here. > > What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican president really mean? It means they don't accept the results of any election that they don't win. It means they don't believe that transfers of power in this country are determined by elections. > > That's a civil war. > > There's no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the Democrats have rejected our system of government. > > This isn't dissent. It's not disagreement. You can hate the other party. > You can think they're the worst thing that ever happened to the country. > But then you work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the results of elections that you don't win, what you want is a dictatorship. > > Your very own dictatorship. > > The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to Democrats, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it's inherently illegitimate. The Democrats lost Congress. They lost the White House. So what did they do? They began trying to run the country through Federal judges and bureaucrats. Every time that a Federal judge issues an order saying that the President of the United States can't scratch his own back without his say so, that's the civil war. > > Our system of government is based on the constitution, but that's not the system that runs this country. The Democrat's system is that any part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the country. > > If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do anything. And I mean anything. He can have his own amnesty for illegal aliens. He can fine you for not having health insurance. His power is unlimited. He's a dictator. > > But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President can't do anything. He isn't even allowed to undo the illegal alien amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented. A Democrat in the White House has 'discretion' to completely decide every aspect of immigration policy. A Republican doesn't even have the 'discretion' to reverse him. > That's how the game is played That's how our country is run. Sad but true, although the left hasn't yet won that particular fight. > > When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren't even allowed to enforce immigration law. But when a Republican is in the White House, states can create their own immigration laws. Under Obama, a state wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an independent republic and sign treaties with other countries. > > The Constitution has something to say about that. > > Whether it's Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary, the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship. > > Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding: > Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can't serve in if you're not a member. If you haven't been indoctrinated into its arcane rituals. If you aren't in the club. And Trump isn't in the club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren't in the club with him. > > Now we're seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on them. > They spy on them, they investigate them and they send them to jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down. > > That's not a free country. > > It's not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out an 'insurance policy' against Trump winning the election. It's not a free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the opposition. It's not a free country when the media responds to the other guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him from social media. It's not a free country when all of the above collude together to overturn an election because the guy who wasn't supposed to win did. > > Have no doubt, we're in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and a leftist Democrat professional government.