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slade 09-Jul-18
Paul 09-Jul-18
NvaGvUp 09-Jul-18
DConcrete 09-Jul-18
Rocky 09-Jul-18
JL 09-Jul-18
Annony Mouse 09-Jul-18
Paul 09-Jul-18
JL 09-Jul-18
Annony Mouse 09-Jul-18
bigswivle 09-Jul-18
JL 09-Jul-18
KSflatlander 09-Jul-18
slade 09-Jul-18
Woods Walker 09-Jul-18
'Ike' (Phone) 09-Jul-18
KSflatlander 09-Jul-18
HDE 09-Jul-18
Shuteye 09-Jul-18
Thumper 09-Jul-18
pipe 09-Jul-18
Glunt@work 09-Jul-18
JL 09-Jul-18
Michael 09-Jul-18
DL 09-Jul-18
TD 09-Jul-18
bad karma 10-Jul-18
Bowfreak 10-Jul-18
Mike the Carpenter 10-Jul-18
Brotsky 10-Jul-18
slade 10-Jul-18
HDE 10-Jul-18
Michael 10-Jul-18
HDE 10-Jul-18
Shuteye 10-Jul-18
KSflatlander 10-Jul-18
Bowfreak 10-Jul-18
KSflatlander 10-Jul-18
Coyote 65 10-Jul-18
barafu 10-Jul-18
keepemsharp 10-Jul-18
KSflatlander 10-Jul-18
KSflatlander 10-Jul-18
KSflatlander 10-Jul-18
KSflatlander 10-Jul-18
KSflatlander 10-Jul-18
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KSflatlander 11-Jul-18
JL 11-Jul-18
KSflatlander 11-Jul-18
KSflatlander 11-Jul-18
slade 11-Jul-18
IdyllwildArcher 14-Jul-18
bad karma 14-Jul-18
From: slade
09-Jul-18

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From: Paul
09-Jul-18
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From: NvaGvUp
09-Jul-18
Thank You, Mitch McConnell!

Without you, and despite all of the hate many of the CF'ers here have thrown at you, (and I've got several issues with you myself), Merrick Garland would be a SCOTUS Justice instead of Neil Gorsuch and we'd have lost all of the recent SCOTUS decisions!

From: DConcrete
09-Jul-18
Pelosi and Schumer think the vote should be held after the election.

I think it’d be hilarious if trump nominated garland just to show their dumb hypocrisy.

I’d love to see their reaction if he nominated garland.

From: Rocky
09-Jul-18
Trump is going to seat a minimum of three judges before he is through which will effectively neuter the Liberal /Socialists in this country. If anyone ever doubted there was a God, the Trump Experiment ascension is proof positive that God favors our Republic and approves of His name on our money.

The Rock

From: JL
09-Jul-18
The golden goose is getting ready to drop another golden egg.

From: Annony Mouse
09-Jul-18
Hope Sessions pushes for confirmation before the Senate adjourns to go campaign for the fall election. Make those red state Dems choose re-election or standing with the party of open borders and Mad Maxine.

From: Paul
09-Jul-18
Kavanaugh got it

09-Jul-18
of course Kavanaugh. He said that indicting a standing president would be devastating to the federal government. Perfect for whats coming trumps way. He wanted an insurance policy for when the crap hits the proverbial fan. no surprise in the pick. And he'll get congressional approval too. Mazel.

From: JL
09-Jul-18
This may actually be a two-fer for Prez Trump. If Kavanaugh does get confirmed, that will create an opening on the DC Circuit Court of Appeals....and I believe Prez Trump gets to pick that replacement too.

From: Annony Mouse
09-Jul-18

Dick Durbin to Democrats: Sacrifice Your Senate Seats to Vote Against Trump's Supreme Court Nominee, Whoever It Is

Interesting that the left understands that the game of electioneering is secondary to securing actual policy victories, many on the right continue to insist on the contradictory claims that 1, only winning offices matter, and it doesn't matter if winning candidates sell the movement out after winning, and 2, that to prove our personal "principles" and integrity, we should give the Presidency to Hillary Clinton and the Supreme Court to the left...

From: bigswivle
09-Jul-18
ABOLISH THE SUPREME COURT!!!!!!!

Tomorrow's headlines on CNN

From: JL
09-Jul-18
"" I think hes closer to Kennedy than Scalia. Think we could done better. Hopefully we get 2-3 more the next 6yrs! ""

I heard that position tonight also. Rand Paul may have some beef with him. I suspect there is some strategy in play. Get this acceptable guy thru before the upcoming election and after the election...and hopefully after gaining more Senate seats....pick that finalist lady as Ruthie G's replacement.

From: KSflatlander
09-Jul-18
If Democrats play politics and try to stall the confirmation until after midterms that’s BS. Just as it was BS for republicans stalling Obama’s nomination IMO. With that said, Trump was elected by the people and his nomination should stand based on the qualifications of the nominee. If Democrats don’t like it then more of them should have got off there butts and voted in the last election. I’m not a fan of Trump at all but he is my elected president and it is his right to nominate someone for the Supreme Court of HIS choosing. That’s the way it works. If you are an American first and a political party (liberal/conservative) second then you accept the Presidents power that is given to him by the Constitution. Anyone complaining about this nomination is a day late and a dollar short. Simply a whiner in my book.

Man, that really hurt to say...lol.

From: slade
09-Jul-18

From: Woods Walker
09-Jul-18
It wasn't BS. It's how DC works and why elections have consequences. If it had been the Dems in control they'd have done the EXACT same thing, so they can spare me their crocodile tears.

09-Jul-18
BigSwiv, that’s a good one...

From: KSflatlander
09-Jul-18
So how long are you willing to stand behind that statement? 6 months...1,2,3,4,5,10,20 years stalling nominations is ok? And please don’t give me that “as long as my side wins”stuff. The constitution gives the president the authority to nominate and the senate to confirm. McConnell wouldn’t allow confirmation hearings. It should have got a vote in the Senate. Let the qualification of the candidate be voted on as intended. I don’t remember the constitution giving the power of the Supreme Court nomination to the Senate majority leader. But that’s what happened. They did it and it worked so to-shay. I still think it’s BS but we can agree to disagree.

From: HDE
09-Jul-18
"If you are an American first and a political party (liberal/conservative) second then you accept the Presidents power that is given to him by the Constitution."

Agreed, but only as long as the President operates within the confines of the power granted to that office in the Constitution...

From: Shuteye
09-Jul-18
I give president Trump credit. He picked the man that has a long judicial record and it will take longer for them to go through all his decisions.

From: Thumper
09-Jul-18
I remember how the never Trump'ers said Trump was really a closet liberal and not to vote for him. Two conservative nominations appointed by Trump, awesomeness. "A judge must interpermt the law, not make the law.

I think Sotomayor will be the next one to be replaced. She was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes when she was 11 and is now already past her life expectancy.

From: pipe
09-Jul-18
"Thank You, Mitch McConnell!" Nvagvup...very well stated...thank you !

From: Glunt@work
09-Jul-18
A little soft on fourth amendment but what I have read he usually is pretty good about making sure he isn't overstepping the proper role of the judiciary. I'll take it. We would be rocketing down an awful path if Hillary had won and it would be many years before it could have been corrected.

From: JL
09-Jul-18
It's nice and all but I wouldn't get overly excited either way. I think I'll sit tight for a bit and see how his confirmation process goes and then form a better opinion based on what I see.

From: Michael
09-Jul-18
One thing is for sure. There are a bunch of vagina hats getting the dust and cobwebs knocked off them tonight.

From: DL
09-Jul-18
It’s the end of the world. He’ll destroy the constitution. I get sick of all the whining. We pay these idiots to do a job and all they do is look for a TV camera to whine.

From: TD
09-Jul-18
It's early yet. The left might come up with clips of him using kittens and puppies for batting practice......

From: bad karma
10-Jul-18
I like him. I hope he is exactly as President Trump has stated, a judge who will follow the law as written. President Trump, to his credit, is growing in the job.

From: Bowfreak
10-Jul-18
He'll be confirmed with a handful of Dems voting for him.

10-Jul-18
“Kavanaugh has been in Washington for a long time”

Then HE has a LOT of dirt on those who wish to sling mud upon him. It will be interesting to see. I’m quite sure every scenario has been played out well before the announcement, and he could also just be a pawn to get to the next (read that as real) pick.

10-Jul-18
He may not have been the smartest choice. he has a 12 year paper trail of decisions as an appeals judge that will be used against him and this has hurt scotus nominees in the past with extensive judicial records. He is also known for his opinion that no president should ever be indicted and that there is absolute presidential immunity....which is a little scary. He is going to be hard to get past the senate.

From: Brotsky
10-Jul-18
Trump could have nominated Christ himself and the Dem's would find a way to tear him down. We only need 51. Hopefully there's no wolves in sheep's clothing with an "R" around their neck in the senate. We all know who they are.

From: slade
10-Jul-18

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It's s good thing President Trump ignored the spineless appeasement monkeys pick or we would have another Maverick on the court.

Trump Defies McConnell with SCOTUS Pick

From: HDE
10-Jul-18
Brotsky- the dems don't need Christ being nominated to tear Him down. They do that just fine on their own.

Sucks to be them...

From: Michael
10-Jul-18
It has crossed my mind that Kavanaugh is a set up. If he gets blocked and the republicans pick up more seats in the senate then the real choice will be nominated and confirmed after the midterms.

Time will tell I guess.

From: HDE
10-Jul-18
Or the dems block, gets confirmed anyway, more red seats won in Nov because of the block, then one of the other two kick the bucket (figuratively) before 2020 and a third Constitutionalist gets nominated and confirmed.

From: Shuteye
10-Jul-18
He will be confirmed and democrats will help.

From: KSflatlander
10-Jul-18
You sure have a lot of hate in you JTV. You seem like a walking talking contradiction. Just saying... Seriously you need to let it go. There are just as many examples as the right wing nut hate out there. Take a look in the mirror. Your anecdotal examples are only evidence of idiot people. It’s not evidence for your generalization of Americans who don’t agree with you on all issues.

From: Bowfreak
10-Jul-18
There is not just as many examples of right wing hate. Leftists have cornered the market on hate.

From: KSflatlander
10-Jul-18

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The link sounds just like what you are talking about JTV. Republican do the same thing. Enough with the BS hate on both sides.

From: Coyote 65
10-Jul-18
That is the best you got? Try again.

Terry

10-Jul-18
Flatlander,

Give us an example on the conservative side that matches the violent ANTIFA demonstrations against conservative speakers.

From: barafu
10-Jul-18
He can't possibly be from my state... Flatlander, do you live near Lawrence or any of the other large municipalites? We sure dont see many of y'all out here in the sticks.

From: keepemsharp
10-Jul-18
If Trump had nominated Hill they would still be screaming.

From: KSflatlander
10-Jul-18

KSflatlander's Link

From: KSflatlander
10-Jul-18

KSflatlander's Link

From: KSflatlander
10-Jul-18
Bar, I’m a life long resident of Kansas. I grew up in franklin county in a small town My first job was on bucking hay and milking cows. My family is from Goodland and still farm there today. I spend a week out there every year bow hunting mulies. I’m independent and left on many social issues. Conservative on others. Many of my extended family are conservatives and we respect each other’s opinion on different issues. I don’t conform or defender Democrat or Republican platforms and form my own opinions regardless of party. Questioning my resident status in Kansas is supposed to be a comeback. I get it. There are many like you around here.

For anyone to think only the left is a hate group or that a few like antifa represent all of those who are left is disingenuous or ignorant. Should I lump you in with neo-Nazis. Both antifa and neo-nazis are extremes and have no place in our society IMO.

But please carry on soaking up that right-wing Hannity talking points and regurgitating it here.

From: KSflatlander
10-Jul-18
Speaking of “wake me when it’s over”...half of the posts on your “the hate of liberals” thread is yourself posting to yourself and just anecdotal. Seriously you are severely lacking on self awareness and reflection.

10-Jul-18
The NYT!

I would not be critical of Hannity when you are using this source. These are not even close to the violence we witnessed on campuses.

Violence from either side is unacceptable, but Maxine, Fonda as examples of encouraging actions against people. Do not compare some obscure whack job to these public figures.

10-Jul-18
And when a "movement" receives a label, it is not just a small number of people. You are the one being disingenuous or...

From: KSflatlander
10-Jul-18

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ok trublu if you say so...lol. Both sides do it but those idiots don’t represent the left or right.

From: KSflatlander
10-Jul-18
Don’t be a simpleton JTV.

From: KSflatlander
10-Jul-18

KSflatlander's Link
Are you sure that all tea party members aren’t violent or extremists JTV. See the link. That’s why generalizations never hold true and are easy to disprove.

http://www.peoplesworld.org/article/tea-party-activism-tied-to-extremists-turning-violent/

11-Jul-18
KS,

Obviously you are googling for negatives, that is why you keep getting the NYT as your source.

From: KSflatlander
11-Jul-18
I'm glad you brought up my sources. So you want me to find a negative story about right wing conservative violence on Fox News, Brietbart, or InfoWars because those are credible sources? Good luck with that. Why don't you try to find a negative story about violent conservative groups on those source and then try to find a negative story about liberal hate groups using MSNBC, NYT, and Buzzfeed. That is really the point. There is hate on both sides but if you only get your information from all right wing or all left wing sources you will find what you are looking for.

From: JL
11-Jul-18

JL's Link
Humble observation for consumption......

Poll: CNN Least Trusted Cable News Network Fox News most trusted, watched

AP BY: Jack Heretik Follow @JackHeretik January 10, 2017 10:53 am

Television viewers prefer Fox News for political coverage above all other cable news networks and trust CNN the least among them, according to a recent poll.

The Rasmussen poll shows that, when Americans were asked what channels they turn to "at least occasionally" for political news, Fox News took the top spot with 42 percent saying they watch the channel. Competitors CNN and MSNBC fell short with 35 percent and 19 percent, respectively.

The poll also asked how viewers trust the political news from each of the cable networks. Fox News again took the top spot, with 50 percent of respondents saying they trust the network's political news. Fourty-three percent of MSNBC viewers said the same, and only 33 percent of those who tune into CNN said they trust the news network.

Rasmussen Reports also found that 75 percent of likely American voters watch cable news "at least occasionally" for some of their news reception.

For the poll, Rasmussen contacted 1,000 likely voters on Jan. 2.

From: KSflatlander
11-Jul-18
Unbelievable....

11-Jul-18
KS,

The WSJ reported on the violence at the Trump rallies, and most of it was started by hooligans looking for trouble. I have not been a fan of FOX or Breitbart, until recently. I admit they are definitely right leaning, but I have become more so after dealing directly with people on the left.

For example, immediately after the killings in the newspaper offices, a liberal colleague posted on FB that it looked like it has begun, but only one side was shooting. I admonished him publicly for drawing a conclusion without the facts being released.

After it became apparent this was a disgruntled nut upset about losing a lawsuit and it had nothing to do with politics, I was told I took my colleague's statement out of context. I was later un-friended from his FB, thankfully.

I also debated immigration policy, and because I do not believe in open borders was immediately called a racist, again by admitted democrat/socialists. I do not observe conservatives result to calling folks names, I see them stick to the issues and try to win based on logic. Yes, Jeff at times would prove that last statement wrong:) We all witness other conservatives asking Jeff to tone it down, myself included.

I consult several sources, and have colleagues who send me articles from the NYT. It is easy to rip apart most of their junk as it is based on emotion and not rational thought process, IMHO.

You are conducting yourself superbly here, amen to that. We just happen to be on opposite sides. Again, I will ask of any specific examples of a campus suffering significant financial loss due to any conservatives rioting. At least we are willing to show our faces. Thanks.

What I like about Trump best, and please note that I consider him a very crass individual, is his style has made challenging the extreme political correctness in our country an OK thing to do. Hopefully this is the beginning of the end to a madness that has permeated public discourse for too long, and at too high a sacrifice for the values originalists cherish, that all people are created equal and that our own efforts are what is most important to the outcomes we experience.

From: KSflatlander
11-Jul-18
Sorry Habitat, I’m out on this one. No matter what example I come up with there will be some excuse as to why it’s a bad source, didn’t happen, not true, or not a conservative group. Can’t have a discussion if nobody wants to listen. To say all liberals hate is just untrue on its face without a single source.

Yes we are on opposite sides but you sound like a reasonable guy. I’m ok with just disagreeing. If that means you or JTV “wins” I’m good with that too. That’s now why I post.

From: slade
11-Jul-18
Kavanaugh Threatens The Left’s Right to Cheat

The fact that the media responded to the nomination of a Supreme Court justice by obsessively covering Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn, Russia and NATO proves that Trump has checkmated them with Brett Kavanaugh.

Liberals know they can’t stop Kavanaugh’s confirmation, so they’d just as soon not hear any news about it at all. Please cheer us up with stories about Paul Manafort’s solitary confinement!

But there was one very peculiar reaction to the nomination. The nut wing of the Democratic Party instantly denounced Kavanaugh by claiming that his elevation to the high court would threaten all sorts of “rights.”

Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J., tweeted: “Our next justice should be a champion for protecting & advancing rights, not rolling them back — but Kavanaugh has a long history of demonstrating hostility toward defending the rights of everyday Americans.”

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., tweeted: “If Brett Kavanaugh is confirmed to the Supreme Court it will have a profoundly negative effect on workers’ rights, women’s rights and voting rights for decades to come. We must do everything we can to stop this nomination.”

If only these guys could get themselves elected to some sort of legislative body, they could pass laws protecting these rights!

Wait, I’m sorry. These are elected United States senators. Of all people, why are they carrying on about “rights”? If senators can’t protect these alleged “rights,” it can only be because most Americans do not agree that they should be “rights.”

That’s exactly why the left is so hysterical about the Supreme Court. They run to the courts to win their most unpopular policy ideas, gift-wrapped and handed to them as “constitutional rights.”

What liberals call “rights” are legislative proposals that they can’t pass through normal democratic processes — at least outside of the states they’ve already flipped with immigration, like California.

Realizing how widely reviled their ideas are, several decades ago the left figured out a procedural scam to give them whatever they wanted without ever having to pass a law. Hey! You can’t review a Supreme Court decision!

Instead of persuading a majority of their fellow citizens, they’d need to persuade only five justices to invent any rights they pleased. They didn’t have to ask twice. Apparently, justices find it much funner to be all-powerful despots than boring technocrats interpreting written law.

Soon the court was creating “rights” promoting all the left’s favorite causes — abortion, criminals, busing, pornography, stamping out religion, forcing military academies to admit girls and so on.

There was nothing America could do about it.

OK, liberals, you cheated and got all your demented policy ideas declared “constitutional rights.” But it’s very strange having elected legislators act as if they are helpless serfs, with no capacity to protect “rights.”

It’s stranger still for politicians to pretend that these putative “rights” are supported by a majority of Americans. By definition, the majority does not support them. Otherwise, they’d already be protected by law and not by Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s latest newsletter.

On MSNBC, Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., said people storming into the streets and making their voices heard about Kavanaugh is “the remarkable part about a democracy.”

Actually, that isn’t democracy at all. Liberals don’t do well at democracy. Why don’t politicians run for office promising to ban the death penalty, spring criminals from prison or enshrine late-term abortion? Hmmm … I wonder why those “I (heart) partial-birth abortion!” T-shirts aren’t selling?

Unless the Constitution forbids it — and there are very few things proscribed by the Constitution — democracy entails persuading a majority of your fellow Americans or state citizens to support something, and then either putting it on the ballot or electing representatives who will write it into law — perhaps even a constitutional amendment.

Otherwise, these “rights” whereof you speak are no more real than the Beastie Boys’ assertion of THE RIGHT TO PARTEEEEEEEE!

Gay marriage, for example, was foisted on the country not through ballot initiatives, persuasion, public acceptance, lobbying or politicians winning elections by promising to legalize it. No, what happened was, in 2003, the Massachusetts Supreme Court suddenly discovered a right to gay marriage lurking in the state’s 223-year-old Constitution — written by the very religious John Adams. (Surprise!)

After that, the people rose up and banned gay marriage in state after state, even in liberal bastions like Oregon and California. The year after the Massachusetts court’s remarkable discovery, gay marriage lost in all 11 states where it was on the ballot.

Everywhere gay marriage was submitted to a popular vote, it lost. (Only one state’s voters briefly seemed to approve of gay marriage — Arizona, in 2006 — but that was evidently a problem with the wording of the initiative, because two years later, the voters overwhelmingly approved a constitutional ban on gay marriage.)

Inasmuch as allowing people to vote resulted in a resounding “NO!” on gay marriage, liberals ran back to the courts. Still, the public rebelled. The year after the Iowa Supreme Court concocted a right to gay marriage, voters recalled three of the court’s seven justices.

A handful of blue state legislatures passed gay marriage laws, but even in the Soviet Republic of New York, a gay marriage bill failed in 2009.

And then the U.S. Supreme Court decided that was quite enough democracy on the question of gay marriage! It turned out that — just like the Massachusetts Constitution — a gay marriage clause had been hiding in our Constitution all along!

Conservatives could never dream of victories like this from the judiciary. Even nine Antonin Scalias on the Supreme Court are never going to discover a “constitutional right” to a border wall, mass deportations, a flat tax, publicly funded churches and gun ranges, the “right” to smoke or to consume 24-ounce sugary sodas.

These are “constitutional rights” every bit as much as the alleged “constitutional rights” to abortion, pornography, gay marriage, transgender bathrooms, the exclusionary rule and on and on and on.

The only rights conservatives ever seek under the Constitution are the ones that are written in black and white, such as the freedom of speech and the right of the people to keep and bear arms. Mostly, we sit trembling, waiting to see what new nonexistent rights the court will impose on us, contravening everything we believe.

So when you hear liberals carrying on about all the “rights” threatened by Kavanaugh, remember that by “rights,” they mean “policy ideas so unpopular that we can’t pass a law creating such rights.”

12-Jul-18
Trublu,

I agree with what you said but I am astounded that there are not more liberals who speak out against the violence or even the words of Fonda and Waters. Should we assume they are OK with it?

To me it is akin to the criticism against the vast majority of Muslims that we heard when most remained silent on the terrorism. I remember discussions centered on did this mean they supported it, or were to afraid to speak out?

I would like to see tons more left leaners distance themselves from this behavior. I remember Tim McVay, I was glad he got what was coming to him, and I remember just about everyone I knew calling him a nut job, immediately. I do see a double standard.

14-Jul-18

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From: bad karma
14-Jul-18
100's of prosecutors from all over the country and nobody else is reporting it?

I don't buy that for a second.

15-Jul-18
Spike, I also find no other source confirming this.

Maybe you are the deep state swamp of Bowsite?

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