this trial is NOT about Trump, it is NOT about Russia, it is NOT about Collusion .... what it is about is the 10 years or more prior to Trump running for POTUS and Manafort and HIS taxes, nothing else... trying to make it into something it is NOT is beyond being truthful, honest and an out right lie, which is what PutZ is good at doing... being disingenuous is only part of PutZ's many problems .. ....
1) With Gates on the stand, its the First time a senior Trump campaign official has confessed to a crime on the stand.
2) Now that Gates has implicated Manafort, he will either get a lengthy sentence OR agree to flip on trump.
3) trump knew manafort and gates were dirty, yet he hired them anyway. Why?
4) It bears repeating: "I hire the best people"—Donald Trump Dismiss this all you want, but the walls are closing in on trumps criminal enterprise. Can you honestly say you're surprised? Really ?
He was known as a conman his entire adult life in the NY real estate scene. And now The Trump admin. wants us to believe Manafort and Gates just stopped committing crimes when they went to work for Donald Trump for free?
Really? And you're buying that story? I refuse to believe a professional like you, Kyle would succumb to this ridiculous story line. I would like to think your intelligence and reason would allow you to rise above this nonsense.
Mueller's team still having trouble getting it right.
ALEXANDRIA, Va. – After jurors were dismissed Monday in the Paul Manafort trial Monday, the federal judge overseeing the case and prosecutors trying the former Trump campaign chairman got into an extended verbal debate -- lasting about 10 minutes -- over the merits of the prosecution, the length of the case and even the eye contact of prosecutor Greg Andres.
U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III specifically pushed Andres on why the prosecution was moving slowly with Rick Gates – the former Manafort business partner who testified on Monday – and specifically to describe the link between wealthy Ukrainian politicos and Manafort. Ellis argued that the connection was not the basis of the case.
“What matters are the allegations that he made money from them and didn’t report it,” Ellis said. “You don't need to throw mud at these people.”
“I don’t know if they are bad or good. And I don’t care,” Ellis argued, reiterating his previous claim that the prosecution seemed to be focusing not on the actual charges but on what he considered “political contributions.”
Ellis again compared the Ukrainians in question to American billionaires and “Mr. Koch and Mr. Soros” as political contributors.
“I don’t know why you keep bringing (up) these people,” Andres said, referring to the Ukrainians. “These people are not like any Americans. These people are oligarchs and that means they control a segment of the economy based on the governments allowing them to do that.”’
“These are not really political contributions,” he continued. “They are self-serving payments with respect to what oligarchs do.”
“That makes it even clearer to me that it doesn’t have anything to do with the allegations in this case,” Ellis responded. “It throws dirt on these people. They may deserve it. I don’t know - and I don’t care.”
At another point in the exchange Andres could be heard challenging Ellis on a technicality. “Respectively, judge, that is not what the law is,” Andres responded bluntly at one point.
The most heated moment of the debate, however, took place when Ellis got perturbed by Andres not looking up at him while speaking.
“Look at me! Don’t look down,” Ellis demanded.
Then, when Andres responded that he was looking at a relevant document, the exchange grew testier.
“You looked down as if to say ‘that’s B.S.!’” Ellis said. “I’m up here!”
When it looked like the Republicans were going to have a contested convention the Trump team went looking for someone who had experience in those. The only person they could find who had some experience during the last one, maybe in the seventies, was Manafort so they brought him in to help. Within a few months they realized that there would be no contested convention so they canned Manafort. He had no chance to do anything.
Whether Manafort was approached by Russians or anyone else, perhaps with money, who thought he may get to whisper into Trump's ear is irrelevent because Manafort surely would not tell Trump he was selling him out!!!
I dont care if Manafort goes to jail or not, this witch hunt is all about trying to pressure Manafort into telling past stories about Trump which still has nothing to do with Trump as president.
once again to the super dense and the socialists ... This trial is NOT about Trump, this trial is NOT about Collusion, this Trial is NOT about Russia ... and Muellers team is being made the fools that they are ....
I always believed there was a defense to be heard before you made a decision of guilt or innocence. I will say this. I do not trust the DOJ or the special counsel in this case or any other that Mueller may bring forth. Can you trust them knowing what we know now about their methods and integrity?
GG, and he very well might just do that ... I dont think anyone here dosnt think he may be guilty of something with taxes or his finances, but in the scope of things nothing there has to do with Trump and all this was, was for shot at getting Manafort to compose ... not sing, cause there isnt a song there ...
If Manafort is found guilty I highly doubt it will be for a extended period. Trump has the final say and when this Mueller circus is over Manafort will be drinking Pina Colada's under a palm tree with 6 ft. blonds as cuff links.
There are some securities issues and a tax implication. I have no idea if they have enough to convict. Bottom line is when did these indiscretions take place and what does this have to do with President Trump and what leeway did Mueller have with his "investigation" from the very beginning? This is all the witch hunt has. Nothing.
Imagine a world where we just saw the President of the United States praising a criminal defendant as a good man while his jury is deliberating.
And not just any criminal defendant but one who ran his campaign, helped get him elected and bought a condominium his building. Another outrageous potentially illegal comment in an endless string of outrages from Trump.
Explain how this ISNT jury tampering? I Bet you can’t.
Now imagine if Obama had done something so egregious.
I think Manafort's problem is he is charged with 18 counts. The chance of him getting off with all charges are probably pretty slim. If he did get off he still has to go to Virginia for another trial. If found guilty on only one charge that could mean ten years in the slammer.
While we're enjoying our weekend, Paul Manafort has been tossed into a dirty old city jail cell, restricted from anything to hear, see or read from the outside. That is cruel & inhuman punishment for an innocent man, in accordance with our laws!
This never happens to a single democrat because of their hatred for anyone that does not agree with their party line. They live to hate. Y'all on the left here have either failed to take a good look at the one's you've chosen to lead you, or you're just that hateful, yourselves.
Paul Manafort may have to spend at most 2 yrs. in jail and he knows it. Not bad for a 60M windfall. Why do you think you see him smiling going in out of the courtroom at times. If your facing 300 yrs. the realization would overwhelm anyone. He knows the Lone Ranger is in his corner salivating to pardon him. Trump said as much yesterday when he said the Manafort trial is a disgrace. Do you believe Trump is going to worry about the fallout if and when he pardons Manafort? He thrives on these fights. Manafort will be back on the streets in his silk shirts and perfectly combed hair. Guaranteed.
This whole trial would have never happened of it wasnt for the point that Manafort spent a short time on Trumps campaign... this is what the left has been doing, attacking those that support Trump.... the Media has the back of the piss ant Mueller and lets him get away with the crap he's done. Mueller is failure on oh so many ways, and is now scared that he wont succeed in the mandate of the Dems... Get Trump ! ..
How is it not jury tampering? A jury on a high profile case would not be permitted to watch any new stories if they are even permitted to watch network TV. Things are easy to understand when one has knowledge, experience and judgment. When one is a partisan hack without a lick of sense, one makes stupid statements about jury tamping.
I think it will be a hung jury. The big question is what happens after that?
Mueller and the 17 angry democrats have had a rough go of things in the courts. The Flynn case keeps getting extended. Now George PapaD is asking for discovery. Russian Troll farm case has went silent.