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06-Aug-18
Call it a witch hunt all you want, however Within the last hour, Rick Gates gave up Paul Manafort completely.

Prosecutor: "Were you involved in any criminal activity with Mr. Manafort?"

Gates: "Yes"

Prosecutor: "Did you commit any crimes with Mr. Manafort?"

Gates: "Yes"

To make it plain: the deputy campaign manager to the President just admitted that he committed crimes WITH the campaign manager, at his instruction.

This is a pivotal day. And if you think this doesn’t mean the walls are closing in on trump, well you’re delusional.

He knows it and you probably should begin coming to terms with the fact that this corrupt creep is going down. With his family.

From: NvaGvUp
06-Aug-18
To make it even plainer, the supposed crimes Manafort committed occurred well prior to his having any relationship with Trump's campaign.

YEARS prior!

Even Mueller says his trial and the charges against him do not have anything to do with Trump and the campaign.

Try again,

06-Aug-18
Trump gets re-elected.

From: Michael
06-Aug-18
Wow! Talk about grasping at straws.

From: K Cummings
06-Aug-18
Sorry, straws are illegal now.

KPC

06-Aug-18
Someone say straws, looking to stalk up around here...Lol

Oh yes, try again Paul....DA!

From: NvaGvUp
06-Aug-18
"PSSST. Hey buddy.

Wanna' buy some plastic straws?"

Only in Liberal Land could this insanity exist.

From: JTV
06-Aug-18
this trial is NOT about Trump, it is NOT about Russia, it is NOT about Collusion .... what it is about is the 10 years or more prior to Trump running for POTUS and Manafort and HIS taxes, nothing else... trying to make it into something it is NOT is beyond being truthful, honest and an out right lie, which is what PutZ is good at doing... being disingenuous is only part of PutZ's many problems .. ....

From: Dirk Diggler
06-Aug-18
Oh now I see. Isn't he special!

From: NvaGvUp
06-Aug-18
Am I missing something, or is the defense not allowed to cross examine Gates?

Gates is testifying under a plea bagaining agreement he signed in which he agreed to testify against Manafort.

Not exactly an impartial witness.

From: JTV
06-Aug-18

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/06/manafort-prosecutors-judge-ellis-engage-in-10-minute-courtroom-spat.html

06-Aug-18
1) With Gates on the stand, its the First time a senior Trump campaign official has confessed to a crime on the stand.

2) Now that Gates has implicated Manafort, he will either get a lengthy sentence OR agree to flip on trump.

3) trump knew manafort and gates were dirty, yet he hired them anyway. Why?

4) It bears repeating: "I hire the best people"—Donald Trump Dismiss this all you want, but the walls are closing in on trumps criminal enterprise. Can you honestly say you're surprised? Really ?

He was known as a conman his entire adult life in the NY real estate scene. And now The Trump admin. wants us to believe Manafort and Gates just stopped committing crimes when they went to work for Donald Trump for free?

Really? And you're buying that story? I refuse to believe a professional like you, Kyle would succumb to this ridiculous story line. I would like to think your intelligence and reason would allow you to rise above this nonsense.

From: Dirk Diggler
06-Aug-18
Lmao! You haven't been paying attention long have you?

From: JTV
06-Aug-18
just more stupid crap from PutZ .... none of what he said is worth addressing ...

From: JTV
06-Aug-18

JTV's Link
https://www.westernjournal.com/ct/trump-announces-russia-collusion-100-real-but-it-came-from-clinton-camp/

From: JTV
06-Aug-18

JTV's Link
https://pjmedia.com/trending/antifa-behind-several-assaults-at-patriot-prayer-rally-in-portland/

06-Aug-18
Jeffrey, what you're doing is called 'gas lighting'. Its a tactic that trump has become an expert at. You? Not as good.

Also, no matter what the clintons did or didn't do, How does that change what trump has done and is doing?

In other words, lets say Clinton ran a pedophile ring in a pizza place (I know, crazy right?!) how does that give trump a pass?

I'm going to assume you see the logic in that. Keeping my fingers crossed for you, don't disappoint me!

06-Aug-18
Oh and Rick Gates testified that he committed crimes with Paul Manafort.

Don't forget who also did business with Manafort and Rick Gates

Donald Trump did....FOR YEARS BEFORE TRUMPS CANDIDACY

This isn't over. It's just beginning.

From: JTV
06-Aug-18

JTV's Link
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/aug/6/donald-trump-not-food-stamp-president/

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06-Aug-18

JTV's Link
https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/1700-shootings-chicago-january-318-people-killed

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06-Aug-18
http://therightscoop.com/video-charlie-kirk-candace-owens-just-eating-breakfast-when-antifa-attacks-them/

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AMERICA WINS !!

From: NvaGvUp
06-Aug-18
And PZ's side lost.

Yet she who was 'entitled' to be the POTUS refuses to accept the results.

ROTFLMAO!!

From: NvaGvUp
06-Aug-18

From: Thumper
06-Aug-18
Mueller's team still having trouble getting it right.

ALEXANDRIA, Va. – After jurors were dismissed Monday in the Paul Manafort trial Monday, the federal judge overseeing the case and prosecutors trying the former Trump campaign chairman got into an extended verbal debate -- lasting about 10 minutes -- over the merits of the prosecution, the length of the case and even the eye contact of prosecutor Greg Andres.

U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III specifically pushed Andres on why the prosecution was moving slowly with Rick Gates – the former Manafort business partner who testified on Monday – and specifically to describe the link between wealthy Ukrainian politicos and Manafort. Ellis argued that the connection was not the basis of the case.

“What matters are the allegations that he made money from them and didn’t report it,” Ellis said. “You don't need to throw mud at these people.”

“I don’t know if they are bad or good. And I don’t care,” Ellis argued, reiterating his previous claim that the prosecution seemed to be focusing not on the actual charges but on what he considered “political contributions.”

Ellis again compared the Ukrainians in question to American billionaires and “Mr. Koch and Mr. Soros” as political contributors.

“I don’t know why you keep bringing (up) these people,” Andres said, referring to the Ukrainians. “These people are not like any Americans. These people are oligarchs and that means they control a segment of the economy based on the governments allowing them to do that.”’

“These are not really political contributions,” he continued. “They are self-serving payments with respect to what oligarchs do.”

“That makes it even clearer to me that it doesn’t have anything to do with the allegations in this case,” Ellis responded. “It throws dirt on these people. They may deserve it. I don’t know - and I don’t care.”

At another point in the exchange Andres could be heard challenging Ellis on a technicality. “Respectively, judge, that is not what the law is,” Andres responded bluntly at one point.

The most heated moment of the debate, however, took place when Ellis got perturbed by Andres not looking up at him while speaking.

“Look at me! Don’t look down,” Ellis demanded.

Then, when Andres responded that he was looking at a relevant document, the exchange grew testier.

“You looked down as if to say ‘that’s B.S.!’” Ellis said. “I’m up here!”

07-Aug-18
In today’s testimony it was learned that manafort was dead broke and without a client when he joined trumps team.

After he joined trumps team he somehow secured a multi million dollar loan from a Russian investor. With no collateral and nothing to back up the loan.

2 key questions:

Why would a broke man like Manafort accept a job w trumps administration FOR NO PAY?

What did Manafort promise this investor in exchange for that loan?

Theories on the answers:

He took the job for no pay To get out of massive debt to Oleg Deripaska , the investor, by doing Russia's bidding from inside the Trump campaign. OR... Someone was paying him, just not Trump.

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07-Aug-18
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Graduates of the PutZ school of socialism .......

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KPC

From: JTV
07-Aug-18
;0) .... I'll pass, I'm regular ....

From: itshot
07-Aug-18
JTV, what KFC is trying to say is "try paulicia's pinky in your rectum, works fine for me"

From: slade
07-Aug-18
Looks like the pontificator is trying to control thought as usual.

07-Aug-18
Jeffrey may have Internet Tourette’s Free diagnosis pal. You’re welcome.

From: Thumper
08-Aug-18
I doubt this judge will sentence Manafort. To any real jail time.

From: bigeasygator
08-Aug-18
“Looks like the pontificator is trying to control thought as usual.”

I feel like that’s being pretty liberal with the word “thought”...

08-Aug-18
When it looked like the Republicans were going to have a contested convention the Trump team went looking for someone who had experience in those. The only person they could find who had some experience during the last one, maybe in the seventies, was Manafort so they brought him in to help. Within a few months they realized that there would be no contested convention so they canned Manafort. He had no chance to do anything.

Whether Manafort was approached by Russians or anyone else, perhaps with money, who thought he may get to whisper into Trump's ear is irrelevent because Manafort surely would not tell Trump he was selling him out!!!

I dont care if Manafort goes to jail or not, this witch hunt is all about trying to pressure Manafort into telling past stories about Trump which still has nothing to do with Trump as president.

From: Grey Ghost
08-Aug-18
He only hires the best people, until he fires them.

Matt

08-Aug-18
It works perfectly if they wont or cant do the job he hired them for!!

From: Brotsky
08-Aug-18
Russian collusion is this Presidency's birth certificate. I can't make it any clearer. Time to move on.

From: Michael
08-Aug-18
The governments star witness had a rough day on the stand yesterday.

I could care less what happens to Manafort but I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets out of these charges.

From: JTV
08-Aug-18
once again to the super dense and the socialists ... This trial is NOT about Trump, this trial is NOT about Collusion, this Trial is NOT about Russia ... and Muellers team is being made the fools that they are ....

From: Shuteye
08-Aug-18
I am impressed with the judge, he doesn't take any BS. The government's conviction rate in these kinds of cases is 98%. If Manafort gets off it will make Mueller look like an idiot.

From: JTV
08-Aug-18
or at the least one of those creatures crawling along the mud in the bottom of the swamp ......

08-Aug-18
...a muddy moron!

08-Aug-18
Among the many charges, it is now known that he cheated the IRS out of 16.5 million dollars in income. How will he get off exactly?

From: Shuteye
08-Aug-18
Hillary Clinton managed to get hundreds of millions and got off......so far.

13-Aug-18
Prosecutors just rested their case. Predictions?

From: Rocky
13-Aug-18
I always believed there was a defense to be heard before you made a decision of guilt or innocence. I will say this. I do not trust the DOJ or the special counsel in this case or any other that Mueller may bring forth. Can you trust them knowing what we know now about their methods and integrity?

The Rock

13-Aug-18
Rock,

Totally coherent today!!

From: JTV
13-Aug-18
no predictions, the defense still has their say ... then rebuttals

From: Bentstick81
13-Aug-18
Manafort should've destryed evidence by acid washing, sledge hammer, and just say he acted with bad judgement, and he would be a free man, Right??. hillary did, and it worked for her. 8^))

From: Grey Ghost
13-Aug-18
My prediction is Manafort will get a well-deserved room in the Gray Bar Hotel for a long time.

Matt

13-Aug-18
And yet the Hill-da-beast walks free! ‘You mean like with a rag and wipe it clean’...Stupid biotch...

From: JTV
13-Aug-18
GG, and he very well might just do that ... I dont think anyone here dosnt think he may be guilty of something with taxes or his finances, but in the scope of things nothing there has to do with Trump and all this was, was for shot at getting Manafort to compose ... not sing, cause there isnt a song there ...

From: NvaGvUp
13-Aug-18
"He's guilty" according to many here.

That includes many here who CLAIM to be conservatives, who CLAIM to believe in and support the Constitution, but obviously do not.

Yet the defense has not even started to present its' case!

Very, very disappointing for me, at least, who believes all people deserve a fair trial without prejudice.

Seemingly and sadly, a great many so-called 'conservatives' here would rather render a judgement after only seeing the prosecution's side of things.

Manafort may or not be guilty. We don't know yet because we've not seen all of the facts.

All we know at this point is the prosecution's case and the media's spin, and I consider basing his guilt or innocence on that alone to be deplorable.

From: Rocky
13-Aug-18
Matt,

If Manafort is found guilty I highly doubt it will be for a extended period. Trump has the final say and when this Mueller circus is over Manafort will be drinking Pina Colada's under a palm tree with 6 ft. blonds as cuff links.

From: Grey Ghost
13-Aug-18
Rocco,

Your scenario wouldn't surprise me in the least. That's how the swamp operates.

Matt

From: bb
13-Aug-18
Yeah The swamp has been in operation for a long time...

From: JTV
14-Aug-18
the Defense rests, it will call no witnesses, will not present evidence, Manafort will not testify ..... closing arguments start tomorrow, both sides limited to 2 hours each ...

From: Ghengis
15-Aug-18
My bet is guilty on all counts with the jury deliberating between 6 and 7 hours.

From: Thumper
15-Aug-18
Persecution didn't prove a crime, not guilty.

From: Trax
15-Aug-18
There are some securities issues and a tax implication. I have no idea if they have enough to convict. Bottom line is when did these indiscretions take place and what does this have to do with President Trump and what leeway did Mueller have with his "investigation" from the very beginning? This is all the witch hunt has. Nothing.

From: NvaGvUp
15-Aug-18
Trax,

This has nothing to do with Trump, obviously.

But any port in a storm, right?

From: bad karma
15-Aug-18
Manafort may be convicted. Or not. But nothing here implicates anyone except Manafort and Gates

From: JTV
15-Aug-18
Nothing to do with Trump ... NOTHING to do with collusion .... NOTHING to do with Russia .... just part of the witch hunt and part of Muellers circle jerk...

From: 'Ike'
17-Aug-18
Can you say, Mis=trial!!!

From: NvaGvUp
17-Aug-18
Link?????

17-Aug-18

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Just the drama going on and now this...

From: JTV
17-Aug-18
the left has gone bonkers over this....

17-Aug-18
I hope so!

From: NvaGvUp
17-Aug-18
Two days of deliberations and No Verdict!

Hey, PutZZY!

It seems the jurors who actually heard and saw ALL of the prosecution's 'evidence' don't by your 'Slam Dunk Guilty' crap!

17-Aug-18
Imagine a world where we just saw the President of the United States praising a criminal defendant as a good man while his jury is deliberating.

And not just any criminal defendant but one who ran his campaign, helped get him elected and bought a condominium his building. Another outrageous potentially illegal comment in an endless string of outrages from Trump.

Explain how this ISNT jury tampering? I Bet you can’t.

Now imagine if Obama had done something so egregious.

From: Bentstick81
17-Aug-18
"The left has gone bonkers over this." And one just came on here to prove what you said, JTV, to be true. 8^)

From: NvaGvUp
17-Aug-18
Hey, PutZy.

No one is a 'criminal defendant' until a jury says so.

Get a life and a brain, you moron!

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17-Aug-18

17-Aug-18
False. “ A criminal defendant is a person accused of committing a crime in criminal prosecution or a person against whom some type of civil relief is being sought in a civil case.”

Kyle , please stop passing false information. You’re better than that.

From: NvaGvUp
17-Aug-18
PutZy,

It's clear to all you only referred to Manafort as a 'criminal defendant' because you classify him as such before the jury has weighed in.

So go pound sand, you jerk!

From: Shuteye
17-Aug-18
I think Manafort's problem is he is charged with 18 counts. The chance of him getting off with all charges are probably pretty slim. If he did get off he still has to go to Virginia for another trial. If found guilty on only one charge that could mean ten years in the slammer.

From: NvaGvUp
17-Aug-18
The jury has been deliberating for two days and has yet to reach a verdict.

So it would seem some jurors are not in favor of convicting Manafort while others may be in favor of convicting him.

Either way, this has NOTHING to do the 2016 election and it also has NOTHING to do with the man who became POTUS in January, 2017.

OTOH, it clearly has everything to do with the DEMS refusing to accept the results of the 2106 election.

Hypocrisy, anyone?

From: Solo
17-Aug-18
While we're enjoying our weekend, Paul Manafort has been tossed into a dirty old city jail cell, restricted from anything to hear, see or read from the outside. That is cruel & inhuman punishment for an innocent man, in accordance with our laws!

This never happens to a single democrat because of their hatred for anyone that does not agree with their party line. They live to hate. Y'all on the left here have either failed to take a good look at the one's you've chosen to lead you, or you're just that hateful, yourselves.

From: Rocky
17-Aug-18
Paul Manafort may have to spend at most 2 yrs. in jail and he knows it. Not bad for a 60M windfall. Why do you think you see him smiling going in out of the courtroom at times. If your facing 300 yrs. the realization would overwhelm anyone. He knows the Lone Ranger is in his corner salivating to pardon him. Trump said as much yesterday when he said the Manafort trial is a disgrace. Do you believe Trump is going to worry about the fallout if and when he pardons Manafort? He thrives on these fights. Manafort will be back on the streets in his silk shirts and perfectly combed hair. Guaranteed.

The Rock

From: JTV
17-Aug-18
This whole trial would have never happened of it wasnt for the point that Manafort spent a short time on Trumps campaign... this is what the left has been doing, attacking those that support Trump.... the Media has the back of the piss ant Mueller and lets him get away with the crap he's done. Mueller is failure on oh so many ways, and is now scared that he wont succeed in the mandate of the Dems... Get Trump ! ..

From: bad karma
18-Aug-18
How is it not jury tampering? A jury on a high profile case would not be permitted to watch any new stories if they are even permitted to watch network TV. Things are easy to understand when one has knowledge, experience and judgment. When one is a partisan hack without a lick of sense, one makes stupid statements about jury tamping.

From: Thumper
18-Aug-18
Solo, they're that hateful themselves.

Judge knows mueller is just trying to get Manafort to go Gates on Trump.

18-Aug-18
That’s what I was thinking, how can it not be a Mis-trial...?!?

From: Thumper
18-Aug-18
Only if he's found not guilty of all charges.

18-Aug-18
True Thump, I’m thinking the tampering jury thing...

From: Shuteye
18-Aug-18
Could be a hung jury.

18-Aug-18
Hahahahaaaa!

PutZ, YOUR statements in this thread are filled with lies and YOU are NOT better than that!

From: KSflatlander
18-Aug-18
I thought we were a nation of laws?

From: NvaGvUp
18-Aug-18
KSflatlander,

"I thought we were a nation of laws?"

I think the operative word there is "were."

From: itshot
18-Aug-18

From: NvaGvUp
18-Aug-18
LOL, Greg!

The resemblance in appearance and stupidity is remarkable!

From: KSflatlander
18-Aug-18
If Trump pardons Manafort then “were” is indeed the operative word.

From: NvaGvUp
18-Aug-18
KSflatlander,

How about we wait for a verdict before we think about guilt or innocence?

After all, isn't that what America is supposed to stand for?

From: JTV
18-Aug-18

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From: Solo
18-Aug-18
Watch closely, and understand what has happened, instead of worrying about what hasn't occurred......

From: JTV
18-Aug-18
correct ^^ ..... the REAL Russian collusion

From: Pig Doc
18-Aug-18
"If Trump pardons Manafort then “were” is indeed the operative word."

I would be totally fine with Trump pardoning Manafort. If convicted Manafort is guilty of avoiding taxes. Most everyone here is trying to do the same thing. He poses no danger to anyone.

From: Solo
18-Aug-18
Mueller has wantonly kept our bought & paid for facts from being revealed. That's become inherent among the left. Lying and thievery. Wake up!

From: KSflatlander
18-Aug-18
Nva- I was replying to others that brought up the Trump pardon. Guilty or not I’m good with the verdict of his peers. Maybe you should put the person who brought it up first in check.

By the way, if Trump pardons him I’m not in agreement but he is within his powers. I acknowledge that. But yes the verdict first.

From: Michael
18-Aug-18
I think it will be a hung jury. The big question is what happens after that?

Mueller and the 17 angry democrats have had a rough go of things in the courts. The Flynn case keeps getting extended. Now George PapaD is asking for discovery. Russian Troll farm case has went silent.

From: JTV
18-Aug-18
Manafort still has other charges against him in another jurisdiction, not by Mueller I believe ..

From: NvaGvUp
19-Aug-18
There is no law against avoiding taxes. That's what most here do; use all the tax deductions they legally can,

Manafort is not accused of avoiding taxes. He's accused of evading taxes, which is absolutely illegal.

From: Solo
19-Aug-18
oooo....Tax Evasion! Lock that dangerous man up in solitary confinement for every moment before he gets to attend his trial. How barbarian must you be?

Wake up and see what the left is doing to our citizens. If that ain't enough, then compare it to what they do to non-citizens who Evade our Laws. And if that ain't enough, then go to Iceland and live there for the rest of your life on fart-water.

From: NvaGvUp
19-Aug-18
Solo,

So, are you saying it's OK to lie and cheat on your tax return and also OK to fail to report millions of dollars of income?

From: Ghengis
19-Aug-18
My main take away is that this was a selective enforcement. My question is how many bastards like Manafort are robbing the US Treasury while enjoying the benefits of being a citizen of the United States. Manafort, Podesta, Republican, Democrat.....I don't care. Scum needs to be prosecuted and put in prison. Break somebodies nose in a bar fight and you can end up doing five years in Denver and these guys get to treat their crimes like doing 35 in a 25.

From: NvaGvUp
19-Aug-18
Ghengis,

I tend to agree, but howz'about we wait to see the verdict from the jury first?

I was not in the courtroom to hear the evidence and neither were you.

The jury may make the wrong call, but at least they heard all of the testimony.

Us? We can only speculate and I, for one, am not willing to do that.

From: Ghengis
19-Aug-18
NvaGvUp, I've been following the trial closely and my take is that what Manafort was doing is "business as usual" for these characters(Manafort, Podesta....) that work internationally. Even if Mueller's team blows this case, I'm pissed. What is being described is disgusting and if it isn't against the law, we need to pass some new laws. I pay my taxes and am honest when I apply for loans and don't trade power for ill gotten money. If you want to call yourself an American, I want you paying your share too. Manafort seems to think he's special and it makes me mad.

From: NvaGvUp
19-Aug-18
Ghengis,

You seem to be 'assuming' what you think you know is true.

I'm not going down that road.

If Manafort did what he's charged with, then throw him in jail and throw away the key.

But the reason we have trials is because we assume innocent until proven guilty based on the facts of the case. We do not do 'trial by media' nor 'trial about what we think we know because we read stuff on the internet!'

From: Rocky
19-Aug-18
The Manafort trial is a disgrace to our justice system. This prosecution was strictly politically motivated only for a "hope". Had Manafort had damning information and turned he would have been given immunity and would walk free. So, Manafort did exactly what he was charged with but....but what? Everyone sitting in Congress if investigated by a special counsel with unlimited powers would be charged with crimes. This is common knowledge. Why do we sit on our hands and accept this travesty, but are only all too happy to see a Manafort get what is coming to him? Must we only accept those that the government deems and selectively discovers corrupt, while hiding and protecting themselves in plain site? Is this American justice or shall I say "this IS American justice.

The Rock

From: Solo
20-Aug-18
Of course not, Kyle. You overlooked my simple point on how they're treating Manafort. It's as though he's the most dangerous fugitive in the country before he's been convicted of a thing. This is 100% politically motivated torture.

From: JTV
20-Aug-18
the only reason Mueller is going after Manafort is to try to get him to squeal on Trump ... the Judge said this not to far back... sing or compose .... and because Manafort was in the campaign Mueller is now punishing the guy even prior to a conviction... heck, those being held for attempted murder or a Islamic Radical holding kids and training them to kill get bail ... as said, this is nothing but politics and a hate towards Trump ... personally, I hope Manafort walks, as a bitch slap to Mueller and his biased team of Trump haters...

From: longbeard
20-Aug-18
And back to the OP YFP. It’s been a while since this trial started. I must be delusional, as you described it, because this is not pivotal at all. This is nothing but Mueller and his very biased team trying to get Manafort to sing or compose. None of this “tax stuff” has anything to do with Trump

From: NvaGvUp
20-Aug-18
Anyone who thinks the Manafort case is anything but a way to go after Trump and/or at least damage him, has their head where the sun don't shine.

Which means the only guy here who doesn't believe that is Paul Zeidamnedfool.

From: 'Ike'
20-Aug-18
Think Wesley Snipes...

20-Aug-18
Manafort was a crook years ago when he was working deals w trump. Yes years ago. So if the charges stem from years ago, trump is probably involved.

Trump then hires manafort. Without a salary. Meanwhile manafort was dead broke.

Suddenly he’s in possession of tens of millions of dollars How? and he hides most of that from the IRS. Why?

Hide your head in the sand but this stinks to holy hell.

20-Aug-18
Smells just like land deals in AR and cattle futures, doesn't it?

From: JTV
20-Aug-18
this "trial" has NOTHING to do with Trump, it has NOTHING to do with the campaign, it has NOTHING to do with collusion and it has NOTHING to do with Russia .... come on PutZ, show some PROOF where Trump is involved, where is the proof... put up or shut up ..

From: Bentstick81
20-Aug-18
JTV. He is as SURE about this as he was with RUSSIAN COLLUSION and OL STORMY. This has to be the ONE. 8^)))

From: NvaGvUp
20-Aug-18
Speaking of Stormy, whatever happened to her?

Didn't her slime ball attorney promise us MONTHS ago he had 'Trump destroying' new evidence that he was going to release momentarily?

So what ever happened to that promise, PZ?

Did she simply go back to her former job as a prostitute who performs sex for money on film, instead of in the back seat of a car or in a sleezy motel?

From: NvaGvUp
20-Aug-18
Hey, PuZZy!

Given you are so sure Manafort is guilty without question, answer me this:

The jury has had the case for three days and has yet to render a decision.

Why?

From: Annony Mouse
20-Aug-18

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From: itshot
20-Aug-18

"And if you think this doesn’t mean the walls are closing in on trump, well you’re delusional."

paulicia, you still have one redeeming quality...you are a funny mofo

20-Aug-18
Stormy, someone say Stormy? I believe she’s here locally at one of the finer men’s establishments...Lol

From: Michael
20-Aug-18
What’s really interesting is Mueller pursues Manafort like Stormy Daniels does with her next Co Star. But yet refers Manafort’s partner Podesta (yep the brother of Hillary’s Podesta) to the SDNY.

20-Aug-18
But, but Manafort knows Trump and Trump knows Manafort...There must be Russian collusion, there must be! LMAO

Poor Trump haters...

From: HA/KS
21-Aug-18
The ONLY reason this is going on now is because of his association with trump. Had he not worked for trump, there would never have been charges or a trial on such an old case where the facts have long been known to the authorities.

Because there are so many charges, it is likely that some will be guilty, some innocent, and some undecided. That is unless at least one juror is 100% voting their bias (for or against) instead of facts of the case in which case all could end up as undecided.

It is a travesty of justice that he is held in solitary without bail regardless of guilt or innocence.

From: JTV
21-Aug-18
it seems the Jury is stuck, they can not come to a consensus on one charge... not sure about the rest till they declare a final verdict ..

21-Aug-18
Hahaha. They’re stuck on one count. Doesn’t mean they haven’t reached a conclusion on the other 17. Manafort is going to jail. And I’m sure trump will pardon him but then he faces state charges for which trump cannot pardon him. Oh well.

Once this guilty verdict lands Mueller is going to begin firing all cylinders

He knows a thing or two about busting a mob operation. Hit them hard and fast with a few surprises in store

This is exactly what trump fears. For good reason too.

From: longbeard
21-Aug-18
So what they’re stuck on 1 count. And so what if he’s guilty. I’ll say it again, the only reason they’re after Manafort is because he worked for Trump for 100 days. As a matter of fact they thought about charging him for these same crimes back in ‘06 but the DA couldn’t come up with enough evidence to go through with it. What’s that tell you about this situation? Sure does smell like a rat

21-Aug-18
Rich come on. He Hid. Millions in income and fraudulently took out loans. Now you have no connection to trump. What do you think would happen to you if you did the same? You would spend decades in jail and have millions in fines. Manafort deserves no less

From: Annony Mouse
21-Aug-18
Well...you could be a Democrat and avoid paying millions of dollars in taxes and get a pass.

From: Trax
21-Aug-18
Based on Paul Zeidan's talking out his azz analogy OBOZO and Hilda should have been hung from trees. Bottom line is if he's clearly guilty he will be sentenced and he will pay his due. Bottom line is if he was guilty he should have paid that due a long time ago. Bottom line is this has nothing to do with President Trump. What a sniveling booger eating little pervert this Paul Zeidan is....

From: JTV
21-Aug-18
this case does NOT involve Russia, this case does NOT involve Trump, this case does NOT involve Collusion, this case does NOT involve Trumps campaign... what this case does involve is a guy who "supposedly" did something 10 years PRIOR to coming into contact with Trumps campaign ..... and is just another part of Mueller's witch hunt ..

From: Trax
21-Aug-18
That JTV is exactly the point. This is all on Manafort, the sad thing is it became part of the Mueller witch hunt. He will get a sentence if found guilty and pay his due. After a lengthy appeal process of course which could take a lot of time. Absolutely nothing that involves or could involve President Trump in any way. It is another demonstration of how delusional and desperate the blind dumb sheep liberals are. They'll still be clinging to a new made up crisis 5 years from now during President Trump's 2nd term!!

21-Aug-18
but I thought Trump only hired the best people? Did trump hire a known criminal? The answer is yes. Not only that, Trump worked with this known criminal for years before he became president. What does that tell you about Trump?

You can keep saying that Manafort has nothing to do with Trump but you are dead wrong. No matter how many times you say it.

From: Trax
21-Aug-18
OBOZO not only hired criminals, he hired Commies! In multitudes! Manafort is not by a long shot the only hire by President Trump that I didn't or don't like, but overall multitudes better than the globalists, America haters and racists we saw from Parasite Obama! Then you start comparing the results, we better start adding room on Mount Rushmore! Thank you President Trump!

And folks, when a leftist pig like Paul Zeidan says "I thought" he's already lying. The guy needs to buy a one way ticket to Syria....

From: 'Ike'
21-Aug-18
Hey, O-dummy hired Hillary...

From: NvaGvUp
21-Aug-18
And Paul Zedamned fool voted for her.

21-Aug-18
All the insults won’t distract anyone from the fact that Cohen is about to enter into an agreement to help the govt. the best part? It’s not even Muellers investigation that’s at work here. It’s NYS and the Soutjern District of NY.

Oh right, they’re a bunch of “angry democrats” and part of the deep state too, right?

Face it. People who know things about trump won’t be able to keep his dirty secrets much longer. Tick, tock indeed boys.

21-Aug-18
The WSJ reported on this a little bit ago. Even they admit this is probably not good for trump.

From: Annony Mouse
21-Aug-18
Mueller had nothing on Cohen related to Trump, so he transferred the case to the Southern NY District. Cohen's case is completely unconnected with any of the amoeboid Muller "investigation". Putzedian logic grasps for (now illegal) plastic straws.

From: Scar Finga
21-Aug-18
Paul Manafort had a bad day ... a jury found him guilty of 8 counts -- 5 tax fraud charges, 1 charge of hiding foreign bank accounts and 2 counts of bank fraud -- which could land him up to 80 years behind bars. He was not acquitted on a single charge but the jury deadlocked on 10 other counts. The judge declared a mistrial on those 10 counts.

From: JTV
21-Aug-18
Manafort found guilty on some charges, mistrial on all the others ...

BTW, it already has been said that Cohen has nothing to spill on Trump ...

NONE of these have anything to do with Trump nor his campaign nor Russia.... more failures by the Mueller witch hunt as all he can do is hit outlayers ..... Hmmmmm, how many Dem congressmen have been busted for the same crap thru the years ...

21-Aug-18
Hahaha. Oh boy.

Consider where we are:

People at the top of Trump’s business, campaign & administration confess they are *guilty* of crimes (Cohen, Gates, Flynn) or are indicted (Manafort);

Spies for the country offering collusion are indicted;

Trump resists going under oath about any of it.

Cohen specifically says “in coordination and at the direction of trump” he broke laws!

Major conspiracy here.

From: Bentstick81
21-Aug-18
Ya, but JTV. Cohen is the ONE that will bring Trump down. He's 100% sure about this one, this time. 8^))))))))

21-Aug-18
Considering it’s Cohen that just said, under oath and in front of a judge, that he committed crimes at the direction of and in coordination with a candidate for federal office(or trump), Yeah. I’d say Cohen will be one of a few that will take trump down. Thanks for the reminder Jeffrey.

21-Aug-18
I’m so excited...

From: Bentstick81
21-Aug-18
Me to Ike. The question is, what or who will it be tomorrow??? Tomorrow will be the," ONE " that puts the nail in the coffin. 8^)))

From: JTV
21-Aug-18
I'll bet PutZ's leg is all tingly ...

From: Trax
21-Aug-18
Being that he pisses himself several times a day that's a normal thing.

21-Aug-18
You guys are awesome.

I’m sorry that your hero, the “law and order” President is crooked.

But you knew he was when he ran. You knew it in your soul and you didn’t care.

Well now the walls are caving in and the proof is mounting.

So i completely understand your anger and frustration.

But it’s trump that let you down.

21-Aug-18
He is a lil giddy...Lol

From: trublucolo
21-Aug-18
Will be interesting to see how the next President with a D beside his name, and all that individuals known associates, it will be interesting to see if the same in depth scrutiny is applied. If this level of scrutiny had been directed at 0bama and his past, he never would have been elected, and sHillary would have never been a candidate.

21-Aug-18
^^^Surely you jest, everyone knows Dems/Libs can do no wrong....

From: Annony Mouse
21-Aug-18
WRT Putz...

From: Trax
21-Aug-18
I feel far worse for the kids he comes into contact with, Annony.

From: Ghengis
21-Aug-18
A lot of the folks here are in denial.

From: JTV
21-Aug-18
No denial, just reality.... reality that with this whole witch hunt, Trump has NOTHING to do with any charges that was brought against Manafort or even Cohen for that matter ... .... still is no there there ... but yet, there is plenty there there against the DOJ/FBI/Clinton and all the rest of those dems ..

From: Ghengis
21-Aug-18
JTV, You should read the indictment that Cohen pleaded guilty to today. The connection to Trump is explicit. The indictment is 22 pages long and Trump is identified as the “President of the United States.”

If you don’t think this is real, you’re a strange dude.

From: Glunt@work
22-Aug-18
Manafort lied to avoid paying the IRS as much as is required. Meanwhile, the IRS targeted citizens based on political ideology.

Guess which one I think is a bigger threat to America?

If Manafort serves time, there won't be any IRS officials sitting at the same lunch table. They all get to go about their lives free and we get stuck with a multi- million dollar payout to the groups they targeted.

Manafort cheated on his taxes? There aren't enough prisons to house everyone who has done that. Doesn't mean its ok but Government corruption falls way higher on my list of scary stuff.

From: JTV
22-Aug-18
some are so friggin' ignorant on here about "campaign" laws its pathetic ....

watch this and learn something Khan ...

From: JTV
22-Aug-18

JTV's Link
https://spectator.org/ignore-the-noise-mueller-still-has-nothing/

22-Aug-18
"He knows a thing or two about busting a mob operation. Hit them hard and fast with a few surprises in store"

Yes. Mueller, the guy who KNOWINGLY put two INNOCENT men in prison for murders they did not commit so that he could cover up for the FBI/mob informants he was working with in Boston during the Winter Hill gang days does know a thing or two about mob prosecutions.

I am very much in favor of applying the LAW equally to all parties. ALL parties, and cannot wait to see how that works out for the Soros-Demons who sold America to the world with Obama at the lead.

Drip, drip, drip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From: Trax
22-Aug-18
Both Mueller and Comey made many millions working for corporate America between jobs with the DOJ and FBI sliding government contracts back and forth among them. Just another thing a Special Counsel needs to dig into. After Comey left the DOJ he went to work making millions and making the companies he worked for (like Lockheeds IT division) BILLIONS off of tax payer money through government contracts.. Then he tag teamed with Mueller taking the FBI from him so Mueller could go and make the millions by playing government favorites. Filthy dirty these two clowns.

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