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Brotsky 08-Aug-18
MK111 08-Aug-18
venison 08-Aug-18
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Woods Walker 08-Aug-18
Bentstick81 08-Aug-18
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Thumper 09-Aug-18
Tiger eye 09-Aug-18
Salagi 09-Aug-18
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keepemsharp 09-Aug-18
HA/KS 09-Aug-18
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From: Brotsky
08-Aug-18
Anybody who didn't already know that our public education system is a bastion for liberal thought and indoctrination has had their head in the sand!

From: MK111
08-Aug-18
It's not only the teachers. I know a lady teacher working at a Catholic grade school that the priest asked her no to drive their SUV to school or church because it had a small NRA Life sticker in the window. He husband got pissed and bought a NRA Life sticker about 2 ft in diameter. Then told the priest it's the only SUV she had to drive so pick her and bring her home every day. The priest sorta gave up.

From: venison
08-Aug-18
X2 Brotsky , most teachers are liberals , maybe not all ,but most .

08-Aug-18
Any teacher that ‘doubts’ climate change is denying science. That’s not what academics do. Sure, question and verify but there’s far too many peer reviewed scientific research to deny it.

Maybe most teachers are liberal because for too long the public has diminished the respect that teachers deserve. They’ve diminished their importance and their role in shaping our young people.

For too long teachers have been 1) the cause of economic woes

2) demonized for their unions

3) attacked for protecting immigrants (documented or otherwise) as well as protecting the LGBTQ kids and children that are forgotten by too many (poor, malnourished, abused and neglected kids)

When we come to their aid and support them, we’re called liberals. When we embrace outcast kids, we’re called liberals.

It’s a badge of honor. I wear it gladly.

From: Woods Walker
08-Aug-18
Do you embrace being an admitted repeated liar also sh*thead? Your entire existence is a lie. All 35+ of them.

From: Bentstick81
08-Aug-18
I think each and every class room should be filmed and taped. That way, parents can watch how a teacher teaches the kids in their class, and make sure the teachers isn't over stepping their grounds.

09-Aug-18
If You’re so virtuous and honorable , teach!

I’m sure your jovial and warm demeanor would be welcomed by all kids!

Oh right, you just talk a good game from behind that keyboard. Carry on.

From: Thumper
09-Aug-18
These teachers, including yfp, need to be fired and stripped of the teaching credentials. Down side to this is they'd just end up teaching in some muslim terrorist camp.

From: Tiger eye
09-Aug-18
@ yfp Abortion ends a life. Are pro choice science deniers?

From: Salagi
09-Aug-18
"most teachers are liberals , maybe not all ,but most ."

That may very well be true in some parts of the nation but I don't believe it is around here. Certainly there are some liberal teachers where I teach but most are not. You can be very caring of students, including the outcasts that PZ speaks of and still be as conservative as anyone. Compassion is not limited to any political ideology in spite of what many claim.

As to global warming, certainly the winters here are warmer than when I was a kid 40-50 years ago. They are also warmer than when my father was a kid 80-90 years ago. We can look at weather data to determine that. Summers by the way do not seem to be hotter which is interesting to me. But, there is really no evidence that it is primarily due to man made influence. Many scientists do not buy into the man made hypothesis, but instead look at global data trends and believe instead in natural cycles. I throw both ideas out to my students and let them decide because in spite of what many think (and some textbooks say), true science encourages skepticism to get as much information as you are able.

As to the teachers in the OP, they were just plain wrong in their actions, that was uncalled for.

09-Aug-18
Hahaha. Oh right. Teaching how to follow a blood trail and properly field dressing a deer is exactly like teaching school.

Adorable.

From: keepemsharp
09-Aug-18
PZ: are you unemployed or wealthy? How can you respond instantly?

From: HA/KS
09-Aug-18
There are many teachers who are politically conservative. I have also known some very effective teachers who are politically liberal.

Overall, I believe that a higher percent of teachers lean left than in the general population. I believe this also to be true in all other government employees, media, entertainment, and medical profession groups. I am sure that there are other employment groups where this would apply.

From: BIG BEAR
09-Aug-18
Government employees ?? Police/Fire/Military lean towards conservative in my opinion. Heavily.

From: BIG BEAR
09-Aug-18
Liberal....... teachers (many)

Liberal...... therapists (most)

Liberal...... actors (almost all)

Liberal...... social workers (most)........

Liberal....... Animal rights activists..... (Almost all)

From: BIG BEAR
09-Aug-18
Agreed Jeff,,,,,,,,

Liberal continuing....... clothes designers........ hair stylists ....... cat salespeople...... cat groomers.....

Disclaimer...... I’m not bashing liberals.... just pointing out places to readily find them........

Like at a Cher concert........

From: HA/KS
09-Aug-18
"Police/Fire/Military lean towards conservative in my opinion. Heavily."

These people were not even in my mind when I said "government employees."

Rank and file probably lean conservative - at least in red areas. Public employee union leaders? No. Even in the reddest states they are leftists.

From: BIG BEAR
09-Aug-18
Probably cat lovers too.....:-)

From: Bentstick81
09-Aug-18
"Teaching how to follow a blood trail and properly field dressing a deer is exactly like teaching school." JTV, Now i see why this individual wants gun control. He needs it. Has no idea what a HUNTERS SAFETY COURSE even is. There's that splash sound you hear, when someone jumps in over his head. 8^)

09-Aug-18
Jeff,

Some of the skills used in HE classes are common to what should transpire in formal education, such as effective communication.

But I have seen both liberal and conservative colleagues who can help form proper critical thinking technigues in their students and some from both groups who can not.

From: BIG BEAR
09-Aug-18
Do you happen to have links to your TV and radio interviews ??

09-Aug-18
Missed my point, there is a lot more to teaching effectively than just communicating. What we try to accomplish in HE classes does not parallel formal education. It does share some commonalities, some being key. Your assessment that we spread commie propaganda, while certainly does take place, from my experience is not the norm, but the exception-even from my liberal colleagues. Sells well here though!

09-Aug-18
Jeff, based on what he has posted, if it is the truth, he tries to keep his biases in check in front of students. I hope so!

09-Aug-18
I think Paul gets a kick out of lighting some of you guys up. It is a game with him. I wish you could just laugh at it all, it would do you good. In the scheme of things, none of us are worth the heartburn.

From: Will
09-Aug-18
JTV - awesome job on the hunter access work you have done and hunter activism. That's awesome! Ditto the HS teaching, very cool!

Teaching, is not a hand me down profession. It's an incredibly professional field. Reams of scientific study goes into understanding HOW to get information into people in way's which they can apply. Not one way, but as many way's as possible. Since not every person (kid, young adult or adult) will learn the same subject the same way. Likewise a lot of effort goes into understanding the specific subject matter and related fields. Teachers need to do a lot of learning to be able to do what they do well.

Do you have "bad" ones? Sure. You have bad physicians, plumbers, physicists etc. as well.

The teachers approaching things as they did in the initial post were off mark.

But overall... Being a teacher is a seriously impressive endeavor!

From: HA/KS
09-Aug-18

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From: BIG BEAR
09-Aug-18
Jeff....... Come on man..... Stop trying to be an expert in EVERYTHING.......... please !!!! Teaching hunter safety does not compare to being a school teacher...... Please !!!!! Stop !!!!!! You are so full of yourself.....

From: BIG BEAR
09-Aug-18
I’m not defending him,,, I’m just asking you to try to stop piping in like you’re an expert on EVERYTHING....... I mean sheesh...... most of the guys here have taught someone something at some point in their lives.... But that doesn’t compare to being a school teacher.....

Jeff.......... You said you spent about 20 years in the big box stores in the archery and firearms departments......... now you have returned to a security company......... Honest work...... Stop trying to impress people.

From: HA/KS
10-Aug-18

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I just noticed the emphasis on ONE reason only, then it goes on to list three. :-)

From: BC
10-Aug-18
Education system in MA is almost all left wing. When my daughter was in school she had a knock down drag out with her alleged teacher over his constant leftist propaganda. He made the mistake of tearing down our troops while her brother was deployed in Iraq. He only made that mistake once.

10-Aug-18
Hmm. Sept to Nov I teach ancient civilizations. Paleolithic man to Neolithic then to the first civilizations. Egypt, Mesopotamia etc. liberal slant there? Find one! Nov to January it’s the classic civilizations. Greece, Rome, China and the world religions/philosophies. Liberal bias? Where?

Feb to May it’s the Middle Ages and the Renaissance followed by the age of exploration May-June it’s explorers in the Americas. Oh is teaching how those explorers killed hundreds of thousands of natives a liberal bias? Or maybe just facts.

Again I teach the curriculum. Not my opinion, not what is told on talk shows. The curriculum. Got a problem w it? Talk to your states ed departments.

From: Bentstick81
10-Aug-18
BC. This is where taped classroom would stop this. Every classroom needs to be taped, so when a moron teacher does this, you would be able to nail them.

10-Aug-18
Does what Jeffrey? Teach the curriculum. The one approved by the state, the parents, the Board of Ed and school administration?

10-Aug-18
Oh SZ, You’re the perfect example of the adage “a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing”. Ps. Where did you get your knowledge of natives? A teacher? No, of course not. This commies do t know anything. A book written by someone who agrees with you? Hmm. Did you vet the author? What’s their credentials? Or do you just go along with whoever feeds your thoughts on things?

10-Aug-18
I am a fierce and passionate defender of teaching. Simply put, it’s been my experience that Conservatives wantschool children to be taught a simple truth: that the United States was and is the world’s greatest nation and could do no wrong. In their view, patriotism represented acceptance of that very point. Questioning any aspect of U.S. policy or its role in history was unpatriotic.

For those who find it so easy to tell teachers how to do their jobs, would you be so willing to tell a lawyer how to do his? Would you point out how they give their clients “liberal bias?” What about doctors? Are you so arrogant as to tell a doctor how to treat their patients? How dare that doctor tell that patient that smoking is bad! Capitalism and conservatives only believe in personal choice and responsibility! It’s astounding that teaching seems to be the one profession that everyone can “do” yet the most critical would never last a day with 30 adolescents in a room and casually leave that part out as they demand teachers do this and that.

Really amazing.

From: Will
10-Aug-18
Not to go down a crazy worm hole, but treating tick born illness is some where between run of the mill and epic in terms of difficulty. Some ID docs specialize in it it can be so complex... Hence so many horrible outcomes like heart block, needing new heart valves etc. Trax, not trying to be a jerk... It makes your point stronger actually... There is so much to know, no one can be an expert in all of it.

10-Aug-18
Did not a lot of the natives die from exposure to viruses/diseases that they had no immunity for, and for which the knowledge of was lacking by all? Do you tell them that?

10-Aug-18
Of course I do Frank. European explorers killed hundreds of thousands unwittingly with diseases they never faced before.

10-Aug-18
Good, but the way you are saying it Paul it almost sounds, to me, that you still place blame with the Europeans.

I am glad you responded truthfully. I was about ready to believe what others have been saying.

FYI, there was a lot of tribal warfare between varying tribes. And it was brutal.

I still realize natives we're not treated fairly, but especially so when viewed through a lens of today's standards.

Peace.

10-Aug-18
Conquering and taking lands was definitely the era. It’s why they called it the age of exploration. And regardless if the natives were slaughtering each other, how does that make it OK for Europeans to come and kill them?

No one is completely blameless in the age of exploration. But do you realize there are only a certain number of weeks dedicated to each learning unit? So as in-depth as you would like teachers to get, we only have 10 months in which to impart a state mandated curriculum.

What you’re describing above and the detail that he wished teachers would get involved in should be left to a college course.

And it is your opinion that the formation of America has been the best thing to happen to the world. We do not teach opinions.

11-Aug-18
Paul,

The Europeans did nothing that was not already being done, you finally admit that. Yet you choose to be selectively critical of Europeans. You are earning your American hating label sir.

I will say it, America is the best thing in modern times to have happened to the world. I believe our formation and survival are the result of Divine Intervention. Without us, evil would have reigned supreme.

Is our history perfect, absolutely not! We are humans, and all humans have faults. Are we better today than yester year? Yes. We will continue to improve? Hopefully that is in God's plan. No doubt we will continue to make mistakes.

Most liberals like yourself seem to focus on the negatives of our culture and the mistakes in our past while ignoring our vast positive contributions, and also down playing the sins of others. Like some of my colleagues here, I am concerned that you as a teacher let those biases shine through as you present the approved curriculum. I hope I am incorrect, but if not you, and all teachers approaching instruction with an Anti-American bias should be removed from the classroom. The truth requires all of the facts, not just your slant on them.

Trax, great job! One of the few times Paul was forced to admit another's command of facts was superior. I extend my respect sir.

11-Aug-18
“yet you choose to be selectively critical of Europeans. You are earning your American hating label sir.”

I’m teaching about European explorers so now I hate America. That is a hell of a leap.

It’s clear your hatred of teachers supersedes any reason.

So we’ll continue to agree to disagree

From: Mike in CT
11-Aug-18
Frank & Trax-good points and very well presented; no slant, no bias, just a simple listing of the facts.

I trust it did not escape either of your notice that a false equivalence was posited to try and discredit your points? Nowhere did either of you infer, imply or in any way state that because indigenous populations practiced a certain act it was "ok" for any succeeding population to replicate the act. The attempt to create a false equivalence is the hallmark of an argument bereft of fact; I don't say "liberal" argument as that assumes only one ideology holds sway over that tactic; the fact is its ubiquitous; anyone and everyone can do it, the common denominator is its practiced by those incapable (either because they lack the acumen, integrity or both, or are on the wrong side of the facts) to argue on a purely factual basis.

Frank, you may have made a point that floated over the head of your intended audience; bias can be directly conveyed or it can be implied; omitting facts while not directly demonstrating bias nonetheless implies bias as lies of omission are every bit as damaging as those of commission, and some have argued (and I agree with them) that the latter is more dangerous as it hides behind the veil of half-truths.

A final observation; speaking in half-truths is slanting the facts and effectively veers from teaching fact to rendering opinion. The distinction is that practice allows the moral coward to imply they're not teaching opinion.

11-Aug-18
So Says the king of straw man arguing.

11-Aug-18
Thanks Mike, coming from you that is a big compliment!

Paul, how can I hate teachers when I am one?

From: Bentstick81
11-Aug-18
HforW. And by the way you present yourself, i can tell that you are one of the good one's.

11-Aug-18
Thank you, I try, and fail at times.

From: Annony Mouse
27-Aug-18
Knowles: Dem Socialists Pushing To Infiltrate Schools Because ‘They Can’t Win In The Battle Of Ideas’

They are already in the schools.

Via Fox News:

Radio host Michael Knowles said on “Fox & Friends” that Democratic Socialists are urging Socialists to become teachers because they can’t win a “fair fight.”

A pamphlet by the Young Democratic Socialists of America (YDSA), in conjunction with the Democratic Socialist Labor Commission, outlines a push for socialists to “take jobs as teachers” as a way to move teachers unions “in a more militant and democratic direction.”

Knowles said that according to numerous surveys, “the blood-soaked history” of socialism is unknown by millennials, leading them to identify as supporters of the movement.

Campus Reform reported that the YDSA’s 11-page pamphlet notes teachers are able to use their relationships with students to discuss “campaigns around police brutality, immigrant rights, and environmental justice.”

The Democratic Socialist platform was championed by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) two years ago on the campaign trail.

Using the same platform, young political newcomer Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez won a shock victory in June over Rep. Joe Crowley (N.Y.) in a Democratic primary.

A new poll also revealed that more Democrats have a positive view about socialism than those who express a positive view about capitalism.

Knowles said Saturday that he believes Democratic Socialists are targeting the teaching industry and as a result, students, because they can’t win against adults.

“They can’t win in the battle of ideas,” he said.

He said that instead, Democratic Socialists are trying to cut off any thought of freedom by students and replace it with socialist ideology.

“They’ve got to indoctrinate an ideology rather than educate in history because if they teach history, they’re going to lose,” he said.

continued at link

From: Annony Mouse
27-Aug-18

From: slade
28-Aug-18
gracious

School reverses Pledge of Allegiance policy after criticism Updated Aug 09, 2018 By Arlinda Smith Broady, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution An Atlanta charter school moved the timing of its recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance as the school year started, but reversed course after the move attracted criticism.

The Atlanta Neighborhood Charter School’s early all-school meeting of students and parents had traditionally included the pledge, until this year. Elementary campus principal Lara Zelski notified parents that the pledge was being moved to classrooms because of concerns from some parents and students.

She explained: “Over the past couple of years it has become increasingly obvious that more and more of our community were choosing to not stand and/or recite the pledge. There are many emotions around this and we want everyone in our school family to start their day in a positive manner. After all, that is the whole purpose of our morning meeting.”

She proposed creating a school pledge for the all-school meeting based on “students’ civic responsibility to their school family, community, country and our global society.”

Liberalism is a mental disorder

From: slade
28-Aug-18
A fifth-grader in North Carolina is being punished over his decision to call his teacher

“ma’am.”

A 10-year-old boy in North Carolina has been punished by his teacher for calling her “ma’am” according to report. The student, Tamarion Wilson, was asked as a punishment to write the word “ma’am” over and over again until he had filled the front and back of a page of notebook paper. According to reports, the teacher told Tamarion that she wanted to throw something at him after he called her “ma’am” one too many times.

A report from the Daily Mail theorizes that the teacher may have rejected the label “ma’am” because it is often reserved for married women. The teacher may have viewed “ma’am” as a sign of disrespect when used to address a non-married woman.

Tamarion’s father, McArthur Bryant, said that he raised his son to address adults with terms of respect like “sir” and “ma’am.” “As a father, to feel kind of responsible for that…knowing that I have been raising him and doing the best that I can, it’s not acceptable,” Bryant said in a comment to a local news outlet.

Wilson, who had recently been hospitalized for a seizure disorder that can cause memory issues, has requested to switch out of the teacher’s classroom. Last week, the school principal granted his request to transfer classrooms.

So here we have a triggered brownshirt picking on a disabled kid with no repercussions, disgusting.

From: slade
29-Aug-18
Portland School Teachers Given “Social Justice” Guides – Praising Islam, Che Guevara, Black Panthers, Teachers in Portland Public Schools are being given a teaching guide called “Planning to Change The World – A Plan Book For Social Justice Teachers.” At $18.00 a piece, with 3500 teachers, well, you can do the math to see how much money they’re spending just on this planning book.

From: slade
29-Aug-18

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There’s even a section to help teachers to stop using offensive and oppressive terms such as “boy” or “girl” in an effort to be more sensitive to trans and gender non-conforming students. These are designed to cater to kids as young as 5 years old.

The bowlibs source of information, where mental disorders are in full bloom.

From: Annony Mouse
29-Aug-18
Brown University Censors Gender Dysmorphia Study

You mean impressionable kids who may have psychological issues are influenced by social media?

Who would have thought? But Brown doesn’t have the courage of NPR, to report something that goes against the narrative.

Via Free Beacon:

Brown University is censoring findings from its own study on transgender youth, which found evidence that teens can be influenced by social media and their friend circles to want to change their gender identity.

Brown took down a news article about the study on “rapid-onset gender dysphoria,” a phenomenon where teens in a friend group who never experienced questions about their gender before, suddenly identify as transgender at the same time. This occurs typically after a flood of social media use, and binge-watching YouTube videos about transitioning.

The Daily Wire first reported Brown’s removal of its transgender research. The Ivy League university claims it is still committed to “academic freedom.”

“In on-line forums, parents have been reporting that their children are experiencing what is described here as ‘rapid-onset gender dysphoria,’ appearing for the first time during puberty or even after its completion,” wrote the study’s author Lisa Littman, an assistant professor in behavioral sciences at Brown. “The onset of gender dysphoria seemed to occur in the context of belonging to a peer group where one, multiple, or even all of the friends have become gender dysphoric and transgender-identified during the same timeframe.”

Keep reading…

From: Annony Mouse
29-Aug-18
Related to above:

Bullied to Suicide for Being Gay at Age 9

A 9-year-old in Denver is said to have been bullied to suicide after announcing his gayness to classmates:

Jamel Myles just started fourth grade last Monday and was eager to open up to his peers after coming out as gay to his mom over the summer. …

“He was gonna tell people he’s gay because he’s proud of himself,” his mom said. Unfortunately, his classmates were not as accepting as his mother; she says he experienced bullying, which led to his suicide.

How the suicide occurred is not disclosed.

Until recently, no 9-year-old would have a clue what it means to be homosexual. Classmates may not be the prime cause of this poor kid’s adjustment problems.

Clinical psychologist Barbara Greenberg laments that “a lot of 9-year-olds don’t know about sexuality and don’t understand it” — with the implication that if we just stepped up the sexual indoctrination of grade school children, this tragedy could have been avoided.

Jamel’s mom wants to take it out on the bullies — and their parents, who should be held accountable for their children’s behavior “because obviously the parents are either teaching them to be like that, or they’re treating them like that.”

You can’t help but wonder, who taught 9-year-old Jamel that he was gay?

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