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Rocky 17-Sep-18
bad karma 17-Sep-18
Woods Walker 17-Sep-18
Grey Ghost 17-Sep-18
bad karma 17-Sep-18
TD 17-Sep-18
Rocky 18-Sep-18
Bob H in NH 18-Sep-18
Annony Mouse 18-Sep-18
Bentstick81 18-Sep-18
Woods Walker 18-Sep-18
scentman 19-Sep-18
Annony Mouse 19-Sep-18
Thumper 20-Sep-18
From: Rocky
17-Sep-18
Never going to happen. This will be held up to eternity and truthfully I could care less about Peter Strocz and Lisa Page. I want EVERYTHING and EVERYBODY exposed from the very top down. The Republicans and Democrats together are feeding us small fish and if HRC is not included in her obvious crimes they can take these documents and stick them where they belong.

The Rock

The Rock

17-Sep-18
Maybe bk can answer this...

The talk is all about the FISA Court was misled with lies. Does not the court have an obligation to check out the requests? It certainly appears they just took the applicant's words at face value. Why even have a court if they just rubber stamp things? How is anyone protected by this.

Should not the court also be held accountable?

From: bad karma
17-Sep-18
HFW, in an ex parte hearing, the court has to rely on the attorney to follow the rules. The court has no ability to investigate. I know of one judge in Denver that was fooled on a no knock search warrant that resulted in the death of an innocent man at the wrong address....

They do ask questions but the person answering them is the person trying to get the FISA warrant approved. It places a premium on the attorney and the investigators to be scrupulously honest.

I do some ex parte filings and if it is not perfect, I will tell my client I refuse to file it. I have been fired for that before. One client hired another lawyer, and three months later was given a $13,000 fee award to pay for a false pleading based upon the facts he told me were bulletproof. I didn't get a phone call apologizing after that, if you wondered. :)

From: Woods Walker
17-Sep-18
I'm with Rocco on this one. As long as HRC is not even questioned under oath for destroying subpoenaed evidence then the rule of law is a joke.

From: Grey Ghost
17-Sep-18
"Well, what will we we here? The end of the Mueller investigation?

You said you had "inside sources" that claimed the Mueller investigation was over months ago, and Trump would be exonerated. That was just one of many ridiculous claims you've made, Bucky.

Sorry if I don't put much faith in the credibility of your information.

Matt

17-Sep-18
Thanks bk. It seems it would be a good idea to have someone there to represent citizens?

From: bad karma
17-Sep-18
The FISA court is to be for terrorist activities, and so serious that it is to be done in total secrecy. That places a high standard on those professionals practicing in that court. Anyone that fudges their work is not worthy of a job.

From: TD
17-Sep-18
Apparently depends on who ya really workin' FOR on that job BK....... =D

From: Rocky
18-Sep-18
Woods,

The nets of the laws in Washington are devised to catch small criminals only.

The Rock

From: Bob H in NH
18-Sep-18
Anyone who thinks anyone named Clinton or Obama will ever be arrested is fooling themselves. To well protected. Ness we can hope for is they are convinced to just go away quietly

From: Annony Mouse
18-Sep-18
Democrats and Deep State howl from the swamp about declassification

By Monica Showalter

President Trump has ordered the declassification of documents related to the questionable FISA warrants on how the FBI got authorization to surveil Trump aide Carter Page. The howls from both the Democrats and the national security community can now be heard from orbit. It just goes to show how badly it needed to be done.

According to Fox News:

President Trump on Monday ordered the declassification of several key documents related to the FBI investigation of Russian actions during the 2016 presidential election, including 21 pages of an application for a renewed surveillance warrant against former campaign aide Carter Page, and text messages from disgraced FBI figures Peter Strzok and Lisa Page.

Following that, we got reportage like this:

Rep. Adam Schiff (Calif.), the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, said Trump's "selective release of materials he believes are helpful to his defense team and thinks will advance a false narrative" is a "clear abuse of power," and based on his conversations with federal law enforcement officials, the FBI and Justice Department see the release of these unredacted documents as "a red line that must not be crossed as they may compromise sources and methods."

...and this:

David Kris, former chief of the Justice Department's national security division and founder of the Culper Partners consulting firm, said Mr. Trump's action was "especially unprecedented" because he was overruling subordinates who had provided a redacted version of the surveillance application to Congress and because the order pertained to a continuing investigation of which Mr. Trump is a subject.

...and this:

Democrats on Monday contended that the declassification order was another salvo in a partisan battle being waged to protect Mr. Trump and discredit an investigation that has already resulted in guilty pleas or convictions of his former campaign chairman, his former national security adviser and several others involved in his campaign or his business.

"President Trump, in a clear abuse of power, has decided to intervene in a pending law enforcement investigation by ordering the selective release of materials he believes are helpful to his defense team and thinks will advance a false narrative," said Rep. Adam Schiff (D., Calif.), the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee.

So we're seeing quite an alarm from both the Deep State and the Democrats over declassifying just why the FBI took up the case of spying on Carter Page dating from October 2016; got three FISA court extensions (read this from Thomas Lifson yesterday about why those extensions are so problematic); and yielded absolutely zero charges, let alone convictions, against Page their target – just surveillance, surveillance, surveillance...which just happened to be a convenient thing for an administration all in for unmasking Trump officials during campaign 2016 based on that FISA warrant – which previous reports say was premised on Democratic opposition research contained within the Steele dossier and nothing else.

See why they are protesting? Schiff's lack of concern for Page's civil rights is rather, ummm, touching, given that Democrats up to now have always been right on it when the FBI's target is a leftist. And the prospect of revelations that Democratic opposition research was weaponized as actual FBI law enforcement activity stands to expose how deeply Democrats have politicized government. What's more, it ought to make Democrats look like rats, which is an unpleasant prospect as midterms approach. What indeed is Schiff hiding, and what does he so badly not want to be revealed now that this is a civil rights case and not an espionage case? How painful to lose that "Trump colluded with the Russians to steal the election from Hillary Clinton" narrative.

The Deep State's protestations are interesting, too. National security honchos have intoned to the Wall Street Journal and others that declassifying the FISA warrant and all of the Peter Strzok-Lisa Page text messages would be just dreadful. Really? Because we would all see how the sausage is made? The intelligence community exists to serve the president, and these guys seemed instead to plot against the president to topple him and nullify the will of the voters. Trump, as the intel community's biggest customer, has an absolute right to say what is classified and unclassified. What the Deep State is really howling about is that its people don't believe that anymore; they want to feel free to run as an entity of their own and pick and choose what Trump gets to hear about. Politics and politicking of this sort have no place in intelligence or law enforcement, and yet that seems to be what occurred, with the "insurance policy" Strzok and Page texted about, as well as newer revelations about the pair's vow to "open a case" in the wake of the May 2017 firing of FBI director James Comey. Maybe the FBI will want to stick to counterintelligence and real crime cases instead of plots to remove a president because agents don't like that he got elected from now on? If they don't want their emails made public, they might consider this, in addition to making their customer their ally, not their enemy.

I think the bigger reason why the Deep State hangers-on are howling is that Trump has "de-statused" them. Access to classified information is a privilege, but it's gotten battered in the age of WikiLeaks and the willingness of intel community leftists such as Reality Winner, Ed Snowden, and Bradley Manning (who the hell is hiring these people?) to leak to them. That, along with the large number of secrets and large number of people with clearances, has already diluted the value of secrets and the access to them.

In fact, it's pretty much descended to a status issue, as the screaming from John Brennan over the loss of his security clearance indicates. Trump's declassification of large numbers of never before disclosed secrets lowers the status of the people with access (which is to say, Deep-Staters) even more. Because if everyone can read what up until now has always been secret, that means the voters now have access to secrets, same as John Brennan once did, rendering the Deep State even more powerless.

The Deep State's power is based on secrets, and ending that privilege is definitely cause for screaming from that group. Couple that with the Democrats' howls as their Russia, Russia, Russia narrative goes down in flames, and we have a fantastic Bonfire of the Vanities, courtesy of President Trump. All I can say is, bring it on.

From: Bentstick81
18-Sep-18
The democrats wanted to get the truth out about russian collusion with Trump. So Trump is just helping the dems get their answer faster, and the dems, NOW, don't seem to want this EVIDENCE out. schiff better change his name to Oh Schitt. 8^)))

From: Woods Walker
18-Sep-18
I think Schiff Head is a better name for him. Or maybe Schiff For Brains.

From: scentman
19-Sep-18
I felt Brennan was holding back pooping in his pants when he dog whistled for the agencies to stone wall the declassification... it is fun to watch them squirm though.

From: Annony Mouse
19-Sep-18
And then there is this...

Tom Fitton: Judicial Watch in Court for Fusion GPS Records

Judicial Watch was in court last month before U.S. District Court Judge Reggie B. Walton regarding communications of the Office of the Attorney General with Nellie Ohr, the wife of former Senior DOJ Official Bruce Ohr, who was critical to the creation of the Clinton/DNC dossier.

The subject of the hearing was the lawsuit Judicial Watch filed on March 1 this year after the Department of Justice failed to respond to our December 12, 2017, FOIA request (Judicial Watch v. U.S. Department of Justice (No.1:18-cv-00491)). They are seeking:

All records of contact or communication, including but not limited to emails, text messages, and instant chats, between DOJ officials in the Attorney General’s Office and Fusion GPS employee or contractor Nellie Ohr.

Judge Walton shares their frustration with a bureaucracy trying to keep its secrets.

On June 14 he ordered the Justice Department, which had been resisting our FOIA request, to “immediately commence its search for responsive records and produce responsive records …”

Judge Walton had previously criticized the Justice Department, saying:

I think if it’s been almost, since December when the initial request was made more should have been done by now. And it seems to me if you have someone who’s going to come into office and they say they’re going to be a disrupter, that they should appreciate there’s going to be a lot of FOIA requests and therefore, should gear up to deal with those requests. So I’m not real sympathetic to the position that you have limited staff and therefore, you can’t comply with these requests. So I think you’re going to have to get some more people.

I mean FOIA is considered to be very important. I keep getting from the government, from various agencies we can’t do this, we can’t do that because we don’t have the resources. I’m not real sympathetic to that. FOIA is important. Open government is important, and government has to comply with FOIA in order to make it an open government.

In December 2017, Bruce Ohr was removed from his position as U.S. Associate Deputy Attorney General after it was revealed that he conducted undisclosed meetings with anti-Trump dossier author (British spy) Christopher Steel and Glenn Simpson, principal of Fusion GPS. A House Intelligence Committee memo released by Chairman Devin Nunes on February 2 noted that Ohr’s wife, Nellie, was “employed by Fusion GPS to assist in the cultivation of opposition research on Trump” and that Bruce Ohr passed the results of that research, which was paid for by the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and the Hillary Clinton campaign, to the FBI.

In a related case, Judicial Watch released FBI records showing that Steele was cut off as a “Confidential Human Source” after he disclosed his relationship with the FBI to a third party. The documents show at least 11 FBI payments to Steele in 2016 and that he was admonished for unknown reasons in February 2016.

Recently, Republican lawmakers indicated that Bruce Ohr is becoming more central to their investigation. And, emails and memos show that Bruce Ohr continued to receive information from Steele in 2017 after the FBI had terminated its relationship with Steele in 2016 for leaking to the media.

On August 14, the DOJ wrote Judicial Watch a letter claiming that searches were conducted up through December 2017, and no responsive records were located. The DOJ also claims that it has experienced “technical issues which may have affected the searches.”

The letter continues:

While at this time we have no indication that records responsive to your request will be located, we cannot provide you with a final response to your request until the technical issues are resolved. [Office of Information Policy] has been working closely with our electronic search support team to resolve these issues and to re-run searches as appropriate to ensure that no records were missed in the original searches. We anticipate issuing an additional response to you in one month.

So, the DOJ explained to the court during the hearing that this “glitch” would delay for a time any final response to Judicial Watch about this scandal. In the meantime, Judicial Watch awaits Ohr/Fusion GPS documents that are due to them today in another lawsuit.

As you can see in this brief video, Judicial Watch is on top of the Ohr-Clinton-Fusion GPS targeting of President Trump!

From: Thumper
20-Sep-18
Release the emails/text messages, America deserves to hear the truth for once.

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