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Dems outplayed by Grassley. By slow playing this and giving her every opportunity to come forward he called their bluff. Finally a republican with a set.
Really?
Is that fake news, or did she really say that?
In the end, it shouldn't matter either way. No matter what she says, no matter what he says, the alleged incident is claimed to have happened when they were kids and should have NO bearing on the vote since there is zero evidence of any pattern on his part (also zero evidence of even one incident).
Even if it happened exactly as she supposedly claimed (dems are refusing to let her letter be seen) it should not stall his confirmation.
I think that the real objectve here is to make sure that no basically honest person ever in the future will consider accepting a nomination because every closet has skeletons.
Skeletons only matter if you are a conservative.
What was that about FAIR. He's the chairman of the senate judiciary committee for God's sake. Shouldn't he at least get an unredacted copy.
This is 100% pure hogwash.
The effort being put into this by the Democratic party tells me we are on the right track, that the country is heading in the right direction, and they are scared. Now, like any great football team with the lead in the 4th quarter, it is time to "mash" on the gas pedal and not let up. We cannot play prevent defense in November, we must continue to take the country back at the polls.
Winning!!!!!!!!!!!!
James
So much for being empowered.
JTV, ARE YOU SAYING THAT ALL US WHITE GUYS LOOK ALIKE???
Someone needs to ask the good Dr if she had had anything to drink that night. It was a party and there's a history for drinking at these parties from her own yearbook. Alcohol does funny things to the memory and perception. I wouldn't say this if everyone around him wasn't coming out saying this is completely out of character for him, but I sorta feel bad for the guy.
She knows her story is false and would be ripped apart from the start.
She and her handlers are only doing this out of desperation and know she would be a horrible witness.
Thankfully, the Right has called her on her BS and she wants no part of having to answer their legitimate questions.
Juanita Broaddrick Offers To Testify If Kavanaugh Accuser Doesn’t
Gotta love Juanita Broaddrick. Talk about she persisted…
Via Daily Caller:
Juanita Broaddrick, who accused Bill Clinton of raping her in 1978 while he was running for governor of Arkansas, says she will testify before the U.S. Senate if Brett Kavanaugh’s accuser will not.
“Just a thought……If Christine Ford declines to be interviewed Monday…. I’m available to answer questions about my Rape by Bill Clinton,” Broaddrick tweeted this week in the midst of the sexual misconduct allegations which have plagued the nomination of Judge Kavanaugh.
her testimony was never ment to happen.
She will go on to write a tell all book, guest host the view a few times. and with any luck be completly forgotten within 4 months.
Grassley: I’m extending the deadline for response yet again to 10 o’clock this evening. I’m providing a notice of a vote to occur Monday in the event that Dr. Ford’s attorneys don’t respond or Dr. Ford decides not to testify.
and then another extension and then posted this:
With all the extensions we give Dr Ford to decide if she still wants to testify to the Senate I feel like I’m playing 2nd trombone in the judiciary orchestra and Schumer is the conductor
— ChuckGrassley (@ChuckGrassley) September 22, 2018
Just another weak-kneed piece of crap who thinks appeasement is a virtue.
""Thursday is a significant date in this story. Because of senate rules which are complex, if Ford testifies next Thursday the vote on Kavanaugh will be pushed back at least another week. In this environment that very well means – forever. His nomination will be over.""
I was living in the projects back in those days in Washington State. I was a child. The only other person that knows of this is my mother. When I told her what happened, she filed charges against the old man that assaulted me.
We went to court. I was put on the stand. In front of a courtroom of people, in front of my accuser. The Judge who presided over that case asked me if I could state where the old man touched me, assaulted me, raped me. All I could say was “down there”.
Because I did not know the technical word for “down there” was a vagina, the man who assaulted me got off scott free. I was six years old. I remember every scintilla of details, even down to the clothing I was wearing.
The man who did this to me got away with it because I didn’t know what the word ‘vagina’ meant. I was 6 years old. My mother and I had to ride down an elevator with my assailant. I want the accuser of Brett Kavanaugh to be held to account.
When you are sexually assaulted, you never forget it. The date. The time. The place. """
Yet thanks to him, there is no Justice Merrick Garland.
So perhaps we should wait to see how this plays out before we start dumping on people.
THE wisest thing said on these forums in a while. Good job Kyle!
None of us KNOW a damn thing about ANY of this. Calm down and let it happen as it happens. Then bitch if you need to
The rest is just stuff off some websites that don't know either but will print stuff like they do
It's fun to froth at the mouth like it's over and she's a whore and on and on. But we don't know Like in the truth know anything
But having said that I realize that type of reality does not drive the community forum
Habitat for Wildlife's Link
Agreed. Also FRUSTRATING!!!!
Tough hurdle for the Repubs to clear. The base of each party will stand firm and nothing will have been changed except the destruction and humiliation of a man, his wife, his children and dedication of his life's work by democrats who rival the Gestapo. Feeling neither shame nor compassion crushing everything in their path to get their way.
Someone tell me again about your Democrat friend's who just " agree to disagree" but are good people otherwise when they believe everything counter to your own and the future of your own children if they could have their way. Have a beer with them, laugh with them and then choke on the bottle for me.
The Rock
A new poll from The Huffington Post indicates that only a quarter of women believe that the sexual misconduct allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh are credible.
25 percent of women responding say that the allegations against Brett Kavanaugh are credible, while 35 percent say that they haven’t heard enough to decide and 18 percent aren’t sure, according to a new poll from HuffPost/YouGov.
For men, there are less who are undecided: 28 percent say that they find the allegations credible, but 34 percent who say they are not credible. 29 percent of men haven’t heard enough and 10 percent aren’t sure.
The poll was taken between September 17 – 18 and samples 1000 adults in the U.S.
Sen. Chuck Grassley has decided to give Christine Blasey-Ford one more day to decide if she wants to testify before the Judiciary committee. This is a bad idea. Ford did deserve a hearing, but she no longer does.
Once Ford teamed up with Ricki Seidman, it became very clear that the intent here is to destroy Brett Kavanaugh as Seidman tried to do to Clarence Thomas.
Ford and her legal team are engaged in chicanery. They’ve made asinine demands:
Citing “sources,” Fox News’ Shannon Bream reports on the demands Christine Blasey Ford and her legal team are making as a condition for her testifying about her allegations against Brett Kavanaugh:
Ford team wants NO questions from lawyers, only Qs from Committee members, #Kavanaugh cannot be in the room, Kavanaugh must testify FIRST – more to come …
These demands are absurd. No questions from lawyers? I guess Ford wants to be able to claim she’s being persecuted by an all-white-male panel. She doesn’t want a woman to examine her, which I imagine is what the Republicans have in mind.
But effective cross-examination is the best way to get at the truth. And in-practice lawyers, not politicians who once may have practiced law, generally make the best cross-examiners.
If Ford is telling the truth she shouldn’t be afraid of lawyers. The Committee should reject this demand.
Kavanaugh can’t be in the room? Say what? Ford is accusing Kavanaugh of a crime. Criminal defendants aren’t booted out of the courtroom when their accusers testify. As the accused, albeit not in a criminal proceeding, the interests of justice demand that Kavanaugh be confronted with the witness against him.
I loved Jonathan Turley’s metaphor- swing first, then I’ll pitch.
Ford deserved to be heard during the official Kavaugh proceedings- Feinstein had Ford’s letter since July. democrats held that letter in abeyance until after the completion of the Kavanaugh hearings in order to ambush Brett Kavanaugh.
Since then, Kavanaugh’s family has been the target of vile attacks and death threats- which the let wing media has largely ignored.
“Please tell your rapist, lying, cheating, corrupt b—h of a husband to put a bullet in his ugly f—–g skull,” one email to Kavanaugh’s wife read. “My condolences to you for being married to a rapist. Although you probably deserve it.”
Another email, with the subject line, “Did your know your husband is a rapist?????” stated: “Hey b—h, did you know your husband was a rapist before you married him? F–k you and your f—–g family.”
A third email, typed entirely in capital letters, read, “F–K YOU AND YOUR RAPIST HUSBAND.”
“F–K YOU, RAPE ENABLING C–T. YOUR HUSBAND IS A LIAR, THIEF, RAPIST AND PROBABLY A PEDOPHILE. BURN IN HELL YOU WORTHLESS F—–G C–T,” the email stated. “MAY YOU, YOUR HUSBAND AND YOUR KIDS BURN IN HELL YOU F—–G PIECES OF TRASH. EAAAAATTTTT S———–T!!!!!!!!!!”
Now Ford has been offered the chance to tell her story and she is resisting. Brett Kavanaugh is chomping at the bit to testify.
Let us also remember that Feinstein has yet to share the entire body of Ford’s letter- even with the FBI. Grassley has asked for it numerous times to no avail. Everyone needs to see it.
For some time I have believed Ford is wrong about Kavanaugh. Something may have happened to her but her inability to provide specifics is eyebrow raising. She cannot remember the town, the home, how she got there, how she got home or back to school.
I think it’s because she was blind stupid drunk.
My version of this story has her following a boy she had a crush on, found herself in a situation over her head, and panicked. She locks herself in the bathroom. Later, she leaves.
Again, in my version she doesn’t tell Mom and Dad about it because she was drunk- at the age of 15. She tells no one. It explains why she can’t remember a damned thing other than Kavanaugh.
Then in 2012, long after she’s adopted a left wing political view, she sees Kavanaugh’s name floated as a Romney SCOTUS nominee and decides he would be a good target for accusation and she can finally tell the parents. Kills two birds with one story.
Problem is, the boys she says were there deny Kavanaugh was present.
I think, for whatever motivation, Ford is mistaken. Just like with Anita Hill, there is a solitary accuser. An outlier. Weinstein had dozens of accusers. Al Franken had pictures. Keith Ellison has a contemporaneous police report and a medical report.
There are no other Kavanaugh accusers. None.
Which is more likely? In my mind there is no doubt.
Ford retained some measure of validity until she teamed up with a virulently anti-Trump leftist attorney who is part of the “resistance” and a rabid character assassin.
It’s not the truth they’re after any more.
If she is serious, Ford should file a police complaint against Kavanaugh today in Maryland. Let her figure out where to file it. She should not be using the Senate as the proxy for the police.
democrats won’t be done if Kavanaugh is confirmed. Sheldon Whitehouse has promised basically to impeach Kavanaugh if democrats take the House.
And if that doesn’t work, they’ll probably try to have him killed.
Ford’s window is closed. Her 15 minutes is up. Kavanaugh doesn’t deserve any more of this garbage. Merrick Garland wasn’t subjected to this vicious treatment,
Move on. Confirm Kavanaugh.
Update
I think Kavanaugh ought to adapt the “Whoopi Goldberg” defense and tailor it to his own needs:
“I know it wasn’t rape-rape. It was something else but I don’t believe it was rape-rape.”
BFH’s Cross Examination of Dr. Ford
September 23, 2018 BFH Uncategorized 25
My questions for Ford should she have the guts to actually testify.
-Have you always been an advocate for women’s rights, women empowerment and leading a life sympathetic to the struggles other women have to endure in what’s known as a patriarchal system that unfairly puts women at a disadvantage compared with men?
(I will assume Ford says yes.)
-Can I assume that you felt this way as a teenager?
-Do you think if Judge Kavanaugh had a certain worldview, say a misogynistic one, as a teenager that this is the person he is today?
-So, let’s set this dynamic up properly. As teenagers, Judge Kavanaugh is a predator and you are part of the demographic that is subjected to toxic masculinity, a group that you feel needs more empowerment, who struggles in this patriarchal system and who you stand with in solidarity, correct? You went to an all-girl high school, so you had the sisterhood sort of built-in at the time, correct?
-Let’s go back to the pool party. You said there were 5 people at this party, 3 boys and another girl and yourself. Sometime during this party you asked to use the bathroom and was told it was upstairs. You stated that you don’t remember if two of the boys, Kavanaugh and Judge, were already upstairs or if they followed you, but all you remember is that you were pushed into a bedroom and was sexually assaulted by Kavanaugh. Your screams were drowned out by music being turned up loudly.
Was the music already on in this upstairs bedroom?
You started screaming when you were attacked by Kavanaugh, so I assume it was Judge that turned the music up to drown out your screaming? He would have to know how to do that pretty quickly if the music wasn’t already on.
Do you think the 2 people left alone downstairs could hear the loud music coming from upstairs? Sounds like a better party upstairs than downstairs. The 2 people never came up there?
So Kavanaugh is on top of you, trying to get your clothes off and Judge jumped on top. At some time he jumped on top again and this caused all three of you to fall off the bed and that’s when you escaped and locked yourself in the bathroom.
You said you waited until you could hear them going down the stairs before you left the bathroom, went down the stairs and left the party.
How could you hear them go down the stairs if the music was turned up?
-At this point I don’t know if her testimony is that she left without seeing anyone, or she pulled herself together and said goodbye. Doesn’t matter, as you’ll see.-
So you quietly went down the stairs and left the party through the front door and never spoke to anyone about it because you were scared.
Isn’t that a very memorable event for the lone girl left at the party?
I’m about the same age as you, and my experience has been that at that age it’s pretty awkward for a girl to be at a party with high school boys that are older than them, particularly when the boys outnumber the girls.
So, the picture you are painting is that 2 boys followed 1 girl upstairs, and soon after the music was turned way up and then the 2 boys returned to the party but the girl never did, and that didn’t raise a red flag for the 1 girl remaining, the 1 girl left with 4 older boys who had been drinking?
You’re saying that this wouldn’t be a memorable event for this girl? She didn’t demand to know what happened to you, or didn’t go searching for you to see if you were still upstairs and was alright? That’s odd.
-If Ford says she did say goodbye, the scenario is worse.-
So what you’re saying is that you pulled yourself together and went downstairs and said goodbye to everyone and left? You left that girl alone with 2 drunk boys that just sexually assaulted you? That doesn’t sound like something you would do, a fellow sister, a defender of women against toxic masculinity. You didn’t pull her aside and let her know that she might be in danger, that the older boys were drunk, out of control and that’s why you were leaving?
That doesn’t sound like you.
With all due respect, this story probably sounded good on paper, but it really doesn’t pass the smell test of human nature.
I have a problem with 3/5ths of the party going upstairs, having the music turned up to blasting without the 2 remaining people wondering if the better party wasn’t happening without them.
I have a problem with you going missing after you excused yourself to go to the bathroom with 2 drunk boys following you, and neither of the 2 other people remember this happening.
I have a problem with the way you say you escaped. Judge jumped on top of you and Kavanaugh, then did it again and that sent all 3 of you tumbling to the floor?
Then when you escaped you didn’t run back down the stairs, the known escape route, you went to the bathroom, not even knowing where it was (you hadn’t got there yet, by your own testimony) and if that bathroom had a lock on it.
From there, with the music blasting, you heard Kavanaugh and Judge going down the stairs.
Those are some loud stairs, or some quiet loud music.
I yield my time to some democrat who will appeal to feelings, not facts, and try and get everyone crying so that Kavanaugh is denied his rightful place on the bench.
Habitat for Wildlife's Link
Total serious bullshit is more like. Her best life long friend is already saying it never happened.
Democrats gave a whole line up to follow these two, anything to stop BK from being confirmed.
Just a stall tactic and time will run out and that's it
It was the plan all along
Expect the same if the dems take the house. All investigations into DOJ and others will come to an end.
All anyone can do now is work to get the vote out for the mid terms!!
I mean serious for the country. This cannot be allowed to continue.
Roger that!
This is not just about stopping Kavanaugh, but any conservative leaning nominee.
This is not just about stopping Kavanaugh, but any conservative leaning nominee.
Now that's funny right there!!!
Michael Avenatti Joins Attack: Claims Brett Kavanaugh and Mark Judge Got Women Drunk at Parties for ‘Train Gang Rapes’
Brett Kavanaugh must also be asked about this entry in his yearbook: "FFFFFFFourth of July." We believe that this stands for: Find them, French them, Feel them, Finger them, F*ck them, Forget them. As well as the term "Devil's Triangle." Perhaps Sen. Grassley can ask him. #Basta
— Michael Avenatti (@MichaelAvenatti) September 24, 2018
In fact, I'd bet they already have a plan to do just that and are already 'interviewing' and 'coaching' potential 'victims.'
Only it will only happen when the Browns play the Lions in the next Super Bowl.
Matt
Why don’t you believe Dr. Ford? -@NorahODonnell
— Norah O'Donnell???? (@NorahODonnell) September 27, 2018
“I am a lawyer. I’m not going to assume that he’s guilty if you can’t tell me the year, the month, the place…what am I supposed to do? Abandon every concept we hold dear in our legal system to get an outcome?” -@LindseyGrahamSC pic.twitter.com/2K3yqTCVMi
Gillibrand: Whatever Kavanaugh Says at Hearing, ‘It Will Not Change My View’
how the heck is she a psychology professor??
michael
I think when she breaks away from her prepared speech and starts answering questions off the top we'll get a better feeling for the truthfulness of her story.
Matt
I specifically took today off to watch this and will give her every opportunity to convince me but I've NEVER seen an able minded adult get the kid glove treatment like this.
Also, this prosecutor lady is without question the most liberal looking human alive. She is the lovechild of Amy Klobuchar and rosie o'donnell
My wife thinks she’s telling the truth. I’m still undecided. What makes you think she’s lying?
Matt
We will never know the truth. if you went into this believing the Judge raped her you still believe that.
I'm not sure with this 5 minute back and forth that there are going to be any real revelations or fireworks.
Why? Her degree is in psychology, not law or criminal justice.
Question, how after she escaped and locked herself in a closet would she know the two guys left and pinballed their way down the stairs. Must have been a real quiet college party.
Is this process going to provide enough cover for a 'no' vote to enough? Probably unless the judge smacks a homer.
Being a CT resident I have to live with this every day.
bigeasygator's Link
A contract on Kavanaugh being the next SCOTUS is selling for 38 cents, down 11 cents so far today.
BowSniper's Link
Again no minds were changed. If you thought this was a witch hunt yesterday you still believe that today, if you believed her yesterday you still believe her today.
Senator Graham's exit interview is pretty good. He is fired up
mn_archer's Link
https://youtu.be/RnINBt4zUVs
I'm liking this attitude
michael
Annony Mouse's Link
If all things were considered equal, the fact that two men have stated that they may actually have been the ones involved with Ford's accusations and should be given equal credence.
Can we still trust FBI?