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Mike the Carpenter 07-Oct-18
sleepyhunter 07-Oct-18
Jeff Durnell 07-Oct-18
Rocky 07-Oct-18
TT-Pi 07-Oct-18
TT-Pi 07-Oct-18
TT-Pi 07-Oct-18
Woods Walker 07-Oct-18
Chuckster 07-Oct-18
Woods Walker 07-Oct-18
TT-Pi 07-Oct-18
TT-Pi 07-Oct-18
'Ike' (Phone) 07-Oct-18
Thunderflight 07-Oct-18
Rocky 07-Oct-18
ahunter55 07-Oct-18
Chuckster 07-Oct-18
Rocky 07-Oct-18
NvaGvUp 07-Oct-18
HA/KS 07-Oct-18
scentman 08-Oct-18
sundowner 08-Oct-18
scentman 08-Oct-18
Bowfreak 08-Oct-18
Rocky 08-Oct-18
scentman 08-Oct-18
scentman 08-Oct-18
TD 08-Oct-18
Woods Walker 08-Oct-18
bigswivle 08-Oct-18
NvaGvUp 08-Oct-18
Woods Walker 09-Oct-18
Missouribreaks 09-Oct-18
Woods Walker 09-Oct-18
bigeasygator 09-Oct-18
South Farm 09-Oct-18
Annony Mouse 09-Oct-18
WV Mountaineer 09-Oct-18
Rocky 09-Oct-18
GotBowAz 09-Oct-18
Two Feathers 09-Oct-18
bow-hnt 09-Oct-18
Annony Mouse 18-Oct-18
07-Oct-18
What makes Trump different? He doesn’t care what others think. He does what is right for the country, not lobbyists.

MAGA!!!!

From: sleepyhunter
07-Oct-18
He means what he says, and he doesn't back down.

From: Jeff Durnell
07-Oct-18
I agree. I think he has good, 'pure' intentions if you will. I don't think he had anything to gain personally by becoming president. His goal going in was to turn this country around and get it back on course. I bet once he got in the ring though, he was surprised to see how many opponents were in there waiting for him, on all sides, no holds barred, but you have to give the guy credit, he's in there swingin for all he's worth baby... and he's connecting with some of those haymakers, and I love it! Makes me prouder as an American, and wish I was in there with him! I think he soon realized the regular folks, the American people, had his back... part of the reason maybe that he never quit holding 'campaign type' rallies. A buddy of mine went to one and he said the energy was amazing, like nothing he'd ever experienced.

Trump made campaign promises to the people and actually KEEPS them... all too uncommon in politics, and refreshing. He's a Boss, but works for us, and is in fact making a positive difference... and more and more folks are appreciating it.

How Kavanaugh was treated by the left and MSM hit home for a lot of folks, and I wonder if they'll make the connection with how President Trump has been treated too. It would be nice if more unity continued to come about, in his own party, like with Graham and others, and more independents and moderate dems 'walked away' and got aboard, and our effort to make the country great grew exponentially. These midterms might be interesting. Heck even CNN had a positive report on Trumps accomplishments recently. So who knows. Time will tell, and it's early yet.

07-Oct-18
I am really not sure yet Kevin. I have been thinking a lot about this.

I was in the group that didn't think Trump really wanted to win. Though I have remained optimistic about our country's future, there were many, including here, that believed our nation was in decline and following some sort of natural life cycle, and to some even Biblical phophesy at play.

What to believe now with a conservative SC? Certainly only God knows His plan and who He will use to accomplish it. Is the Don was of His appointees?

We certainly live in interesting times!

From: Rocky
07-Oct-18
Donald Trump has proven in this present day political climate in America that "ideology" concerning "nationalism and America 1st" resonates much louder than "elect ability". Had a career politician gambled on this strategy he would have been blown away post-haste. The quickly dissipating middle class and their wage stagnation, coupled with and tied to illegal immigration including crime, paved the way for their rabid following. Another critical decision was to engage Evangelicals and his promise to them to pack the SC with conservative judges

Only a brash talking street level thinking billionaire with enough negative baggage to fill Newark Airport and no political capital could have pulled this off. The most dangerous man in the world is the man who has nothing to lose, in this case politically.

Promises made/Promise Kept will be his epitaph.

From: TT-Pi
07-Oct-18
At first, I was almost shocked to hear a few very outlandish things he said, back in the primary days. Then I realized that he is like a boxer throwing jabs or a spider spinning webs. He would say Ted's father killed JFK or Jeb is a flabby sissy or whatever and when they reacted he had that gotcha smile. Why? because he did.

When people fall for such things and engage over the ridiculous they look daft. Like they just fell for a fake punch and cried foul ref., foul. And the bystanders ( the watching public, at ringside) know that the big guy in the ring is running his opponent scared.

Just think what goes through our mind when we see a candidate fall for something stupid... How the heck will they handle the wacky world leaders if they fall for that silly jab. And that's one of his simple tricks... Suckem in and leave em arguing with themself looking all miffed and stupid. Gotcha.

He has a few tricks that telegraph to his audience that he is in command. He is a skilled negotiator ( I grew up under one , it makes it easy to spot ) He doesn't flinch when attacked and is prepared with the big guns when needed. He likes the battle and is well prepared.

He knows when to shut up and he does it loudly. Then he drops the KO punch.

And of course he is actually delivering on the promises .

From: TT-Pi
07-Oct-18
JTV. I was just thinking something similar. The other side has mastered that prim and proper way of speaking, that soaring rhetoric, that polished delivery. ( Not exclusively the D side only. that's true ) Swamp tone.

They say things in soothing tones which disarm the listener like a hypnosis. Even this, "we will fundamentally screw you folks" and "you deserve it". And they somehow make it sound desirable to us and themselves, magnanimous. Waite, what?

The Trump charm is his speaking on the level of the lowest of us, not the highest. In a humble and simple matter of fact way. A common man tone. The less sophisticated mind gets it, the middle guy accepts it and the brilliant can figure out why he does it. But all of them/us recognize its not "that other tone".

We have learned "That tone" is the death of us...

He seems to remind us that it is the content and actions that matter. And yes, we do deserve it, because we did build it, we do honor it and we have no shame for it...

Americans are sick of that guilt trip. And we come roaring back with the right coach and a little pride in what is great about out Homeland.

From: TT-Pi
07-Oct-18
KPC , true that.

He has been pummeling them but good. And they deserve it. It's become a propaganda machine in cahoots with Hollywood. I read the NYTimes headlines just to be sure of the opposite. ( To be in constant reminder of how they spin. ) I puke and move on.

From: Woods Walker
07-Oct-18
I used to be of the opinion (and I stress USED TO) that the only people who were qualified to be President were people who had spent most of the working lives in politics/elected office, and preferably with a legal background because the system was SO complex that a non-political type wouldn't even know where to begin. This was one of the biggest reservations I had about Trump.

After 2 years that opinion has been REVERSED and from now on if candidate has ONLY been in public office their whole life then IMO they are LEAST qualified. I would prefer a businessman with no political/government experience who knows how to chose and utilize people who DO know than someone like Obama who was about as qualified to lead a nation as I am to do brain surgery or program computers.

If noting else Trump is re-writing the rules on what a leader is. Hopefully his own party will begin to realize what many of us already have.

From: Chuckster
07-Oct-18
I am in agreement with HFW above, I think there was a point in the campaign that he didn't want to win and was actually shocked that the more outlandish he was, the higher his poll numbers went. I think back to what he said about McCain getting captured and thought, he' done, but that wasn't the case at all. He may have stumbled upon a pent up anger brewing in the average American and he tapped into that brilliantly. HIs fingerprint on this country will be felt for 30-40 years and when we are on the verge of going over the abyss again the 55th president of the United States will be of a similar mold to Trump.

If we hadn't had someone like Obama for the past 8 years, I don't think Trump could have won the Presidency.

From: Woods Walker
07-Oct-18
"If we hadn't had someone like Obama for the past 8 years, I don't think Trump could have won the Presidency."

X-2 on that.

From: TT-Pi
07-Oct-18
Nice, Woods walker. To add : I used to think that an extremely rich person would be less likely to want to build an empire from the advantage of political life/position. ( they already have one) And I Still do believe it.

I would also trust someone with a long track record of not cheating people when they could have. Or someone who has made a vow of poverty. Not too many to choose from there.

From: TT-Pi
07-Oct-18
Yup, agreed. It had to get that bad. I think it will evolve, and I believe he is evolving with it. By the next election, he will be more polished and that will set the stage for new expectations to follow.

I am not convinced that he just bumbled into this though. Too many lucky strikes smell more like intention and a good read on this societal temperament. He did say that " not to worry when he is president he can be just as refined as needed". or something to that effect. Like a wink to those who were concerned. Showing self-awareness during the performance aspect of that process.

I think he knew that he needed to motivate the lower rung and that was key to winning. He also knew that he needed God in the picture but not too heavily. He played it just right. And when it came down to the last moments he pushed in just the right places. He kept the news about him and kept adjusting. That shows command of the situation and to be consistent with his total performance and continued navigation, it would have to be a fluke inside of a brilliant design and method. That lucky twist would be inconsistent with his continued success. He knew what he was doing and why he needed to do it. That's what he is exceptionally good at.

He has played in the big time long enough to know how to dance as he does. A mix of Ballroom and the Hokie Pokie I think. That's him and it works .

07-Oct-18
What Mike said...

07-Oct-18

Thunderflight 's embedded Photo
Thunderflight 's embedded Photo
God bless AMERICA!

From: Rocky
07-Oct-18
Never believe Donald Trump did not want to win. He may have been surprised that he did but this was a man of "win at all costs" his entire life. He invested a large sum of his own money into his campaign and businessmen know when to stop the bleeding but he continued full throttle ahead.

The Rock

From: ahunter55
07-Oct-18

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No matter yea or Nay on Trump, in my eyes he has done an awesome job as President. I had my doubts but voted for him as the best of what we had.. 8 years of O'Bama killing America was enough for me & guessing many more due to the outcome of the election. He has done much more than several sitting Presidents & against odds NO OTHER President has had to endure. Both sides needs more cleaning out & hopefully, he gets that done too.

From: Chuckster
07-Oct-18
My wife voted for Hillary (she hated Trump) however she is totally on board with his actions now and is happy with what is happening in our country.

From: Rocky
07-Oct-18
If people would be honest I would say they voted for Trump because they had no other choice and most likely if they had another choice they would have made it. Very few people wanted Trump to win the primary and would have voted for ANYONE else on that stage but Trump. Those that voted for him in the general had a choice which was a no-brainer, Trump or HRC never believing Trump had a chance and said as much right here non the CF. That is the truth.

The Rock

From: NvaGvUp
07-Oct-18
He knows how to get things done and he doesn’t give a rat’s azz what the media says about him

From: HA/KS
07-Oct-18
One thing that makes trump immune to things that would destroy any other republican is the fact that no matter what comes out about him, it is probably not as bad as most of the people who voted for him thought he has done in the past.

Slept with a porn star? No surprise.

Paid hush money? No surprise, so no change in support from those who supported him.

There are many other examples that would have destroyed any other republican.

No other republican would have stuck by a SC nominee just because they were the best person for the job. Accumulating unsupported allegations? Dump him and nominate someone less controversial (conservative) who would get confirmed.

Like many others here, I did not like him from the beginning and thought his candidacy was at best a joke. None of us can say what his actual motivation was, but here is some evidence. How true to his other words (campaign promises) has he remained? That is (to me) evidence that he actually had an agenda for America - the very one we he campaigned on and has been working to implement in spite of reisitance from democrats, press, D.C., and far too many republicans.

He may have believed he was a long shot, but probably thought that even if he didn't win he would at least change the narrative. However, watching how he operates, it probably never occurred to him that he wouldn't win.

The same could be said about hilary, but her belief was out of ignorance and a sense of privilege. His may very well have been from a sense of "If America is going to survive, I have to step in and save Her."

I have said it here before, but he has done a better job of working toward reviving a constitutional America than I could have dreamed.

Are there things about him that I still don't like? Of course. However, overall his agenda is almost 100% what I think it should be.

From: scentman
08-Oct-18
What makes Trump different?

He was commissioned by God.

From: sundowner
08-Oct-18
I think scentman is probably right.

08-Oct-18
Scentman,

You mean Trump is a Blues Brother, on a mission from God?

Remember during the primaries, all the criticism? Trump was not that conservative, gave to Dems, very unmoral etc.

How to explain the change? Difficult for me to believe it happened on his own or this was always him.

Of course Paul will say he is a con man extradonaire. I remain cautiously optimistic, he is accomplishing great things for now. I will wait for his term to be over before fully deciding.

I will be maybe the only one here that feels it is important how we play the game. Yes, winning is great, and the left deserves to eat some crow-a lot of it. But if both sides keep fueling the division, I think we can guess where this is headed. While some may claim they are ready, read some history of the 1860s first. Focus on the human toll. I struggle with those who say they are pro-life when it comes to babies, but clamour almost for open conflict.

If that makes me soft, so be it.

From: scentman
08-Oct-18
I am by no means a Bible thumper, but Paul was a devote Christian hit man, the Almighty had a plan for him... I believe God chooses ones with conviction and changes them for his ultimate plan, even Christ asked for the "cup" to be passed if it were God's will, but the Lord knew his son was up to the task.

From: Bowfreak
08-Oct-18
Obama was also commissioned by God.

“?‘The decision is announced by messengers, the holy ones declare the verdict, so that the living may know that the Most High is sovereign over all kingdoms on earth and gives them to anyone he wishes and sets over them the lowliest of people.’ Daniel 4:17 NIV https://bible.com/bible/111/dan.4.17.NIV

I agree with KPC... bottom line is Trump doesn't need swamp money and can do as he sees fit.

From: Rocky
08-Oct-18
Frank,

The Trump administration has transcended failure conservatively speaking, seating another SC justice. The court and the nation is safe for the near future. Most presidents could only aspire to what he has accomplished and in break neck speed. He has won the game but as Trump says " too much winning is not enough". He will always be "just" Trump to most vs. President Trump, and I believe he likes it that way. The man instigates and likes to fight throwing you off your game and on your heels. He is your neighbor, the corner bartender, the car salesman, the crazy uncle that makes you laugh, but when the bell rings he is a deadly serious adversary in private when he is not smiling. Politicians do not have control over him in any quarter, allies included. He operates from first thought and belief which he knows he can always amend. The world has more than its share of scary people at the helm who wantonly threaten the U.S. day and night with deep seated hatred. Well the U.S. has countered that fear with a hired gun of its own, regaled in black and silver spurs and the gun he carries emits the biggest bang of all, notches prominently displayed. They can talk all they want but not much can make this man's face turn red. Make a move and this man is going to reach and you WILL realize he is unlike any other president most notably Obonzo. World leaders sit a little straighter in their seats and local politicians have picked up his swagger. I agree with the DEMS. Trump does not fit nor fits the mold to be the POTUS. He is a CEO of a " new" company whose product is "results" specifically for the bottom line which will be inscribed forever in American History. Everyday businessmen across the nation have now taken to politics following the blueprint laid out by "Trump"and realizing that the American people have been given the boost they needed by a loudmouth NYC Titan. A man who awoke one day a much different man than the day before with the blueprint for America's future.

The Rock

The Rock

The Rock

The Rock

From: scentman
08-Oct-18
Obama was commissioned by God, so that Trump would be in office 8 yrs there after.

From: scentman
08-Oct-18

From: TD
08-Oct-18
"He doesn’t care what others think."

"...he doesn’t give a rat’s azz what the media says about him."

Yes and no. In many ways he's one of the thinnest skinned presidents we've had in my memory. He reacts to the smallest slight with guns blazing. So yes.... I think he cares very much.

Where he differs is he refuses to let any negative slip by not just unnoticed, but publicly punished. He wants to make sure he gets his shots in. He goes on offense as a defense.

So yes, he doesn't care so much what anyone thinks of him...... so long as they know what HE thinks of THEM.......

Count me in the camp of held my nose to vote for him. So many planets had to align for him to win it was amazing...... the largest planet being the most disgusting, dishonest, unappealing candidate to ever run for office in HRC.

I've cringed more than a few times..... but the wound's have just been minor scratches. Overall I am very happy and pleased with how it's all unfolding. And the entertainment value is off the charts..... seeing the left and the politically entrenched reaction to it all is fun..... and ..... illuminating....

From: Woods Walker
08-Oct-18

Woods Walker's embedded Photo
Woods Walker's embedded Photo

From: bigswivle
08-Oct-18
With the media, democrats and many of the Republican Party against him, what he’s accomplished is pretty incredible. If the media would actually report on his accomplishments, he’d be unbeatable in ‘20. IMO what makes him great is his work ethic, dude seams to always be working.

From: NvaGvUp
08-Oct-18
Trump is not thin skinned.

He’s loving it when the media go after him because it gives him an opportunity to go after THEM.

So they are dancing to his tune and they don’t even realize it.

He owns them and plays them like a fiddle

From: Woods Walker
09-Oct-18
"Fiddle" is downplaying it Kyle......a STRADIVARIUS is more like it!!!

09-Oct-18
Trump is different because he cares about America and our historical values, simple as that.

From: Woods Walker
09-Oct-18
I think that someone like Trump...NOT a career politician...is exactly what the Founders had in mind when they created our government.......

From "John Adams" by David McCullough...............

Page 415

The old, stubborn independence of his forebearers kept playing on his thoughts. It had been the bedrock of their integrity, and he was resolved to see it sustained. When his son Thomas wrote, expressing an interest in public life, Adams felt he was answering for generations of their line; "Public business, my son, must always be done by somebody. It will be done by somebody of other. If wise men decline it, others will not; if honest men refuse it, others will not. A young man should weigh well his plans. Integrity should be preserved in all events as essential to his happiness, through every stage of his existence. His first maxim then should be to place his honor out of reach of all men. In order to do this he must make it a rule never to come dependent on public employments for his subsistence. Let him have a trade, a profession, a farm, a shop, something where he can honestly live, and then he may engage in public affairs, if invited, upon independent principles. My advice to my children is to maintain an independent character."

From: bigeasygator
09-Oct-18
"Trump is not thin skinned."

Come on...of course he is. I can't remember a public person who cares as much as Trump does, President or otherwise, in my lifetime. No slight goes unaddressed. It's why his base loves him. His vanity is unparalleled and it's why he reacts so strongly to any criticism, be it from a Senator, a foreign head of State, the media, a CEO, a beauty queen, a pastor, a judge, an actor, a day-time talks show host, a late-night talk show host, a football player, a basketball player, a gold-star Mom, etc etc. I can pull up the tweets if you need the receipts. The man never lets anything go - and, again, it's a big part of the reason his fan base loves him so much. You can feel free to argue that it's all calculated and all part of the game.

He's different because he's not a politician. He's a reality TV star, and he's running his Presidency as such. He's a brilliant marketer, and he knows how to market and sell a product to his fans. He says things that no other politician would ever dare say (even if they are thinking it behind closed doors). Another thing that is different about him is how bulletproof he is. He's done and said things on a regular basis that would have destroyed anyone else and it's fascinating that he is more-or-less immune to it.

From: South Farm
09-Oct-18
I think the simple answer is he's NOT a politician...which is EXACTLY what this country needs at this point in our history. Politicians on both sides have been pandering to their base and in the end doing what was best for them personally. FINALLY we get a guy that is in a position where he doesn't need to pander to anyone...and for once in a very long time spends his time in office fulfilling his promises rather than making friends or using the office of the presidency as a stepping stone to strengthen his reputation or wealth. Trump makes a promise you can take it to the bank...and if he's pissing off Libs that's just icing on the proverbial cake! I think the people that really hate him do so because they know they can not "own" or manipulate him...and damn does that piss them off!!!

From: Annony Mouse
09-Oct-18
Not a politician is the biggest reason that Trump is President.

When Constitution written, Founding Fathers envisioned citizen government and NOT the tenured professional politician who makes a career out of being in office. All one has to do is look at the likes of Pelosi, Schummer, Mad Maxine, etc. to see how they have used their elected office to enrich themselves at taxpayer expense.

The professional politician puts party and self interest ahead of the country's. A citizen officeholder puts the country first.

09-Oct-18
Simply put. EVERYTHING about Trump is different from the typical politician. The reasons why have been stated.

From: Rocky
09-Oct-18
Donald Trump is "every politician" and the best of them. He is just "turned inside out". Saying, doing, and thinking everything every politician wishes they had the guts to say, do and think even as they believe it. Slowly but surely they are catching on. I also believe the days of being strictly "presidential" will be a disadvantage for future candidates. I can see the "Mike Pence" type having difficulty following this ride if the opposition tables a firebrand.

The Rock

The Rock

From: GotBowAz
09-Oct-18
Solo, Thanks for sharing the video. The whole country no matter where they stand needs to see it to truly understand the difference in this president. Sadly, many wont. Im sure it would get nuked on social media. I do believe and have always believed Trump purely cares about the USA.

From: Two Feathers
09-Oct-18
He donates his salary. That's different.

From: bow-hnt
09-Oct-18
What makes Trump different, he is not part of the club in Washington, he is an outsider, He does not play by the their rules and the swamp hates him! He is not a politician, and fights back unlike the Rinos that coward to the communist Demorats ... He wont back down, he is smarter than the lifetime pieces of crap, swamp sucking dwellers that could care less about this country and only line their wallets! he is fighting for this country, does he have flaws, hell yeah he does. but i will take him any day than what those idiots in Washington try to sell us on! Make America Great again!!! TRUMP 2020

From: Annony Mouse
18-Oct-18
Trump identifies obvious solutions to ignored problems...after all, he comes from the business world and not the political swamp:

Trump threatens to cut off funding to California over its forest mismanagement

Trump threatens to cut off funding to California over its forest mismanagement

October 18, 2018 MJA Uncategorized 6

DC: ‘You Better Get Your Act Together’: Trump Threatens To Cut Funding To California Over Massive Wildfires.

President Donald Trump threatened to restrict funding to California if the state does not improve the way it manages forests to prevent more large wildfires, the Los Angeles Times reported.

Trump made the comments during a cabinet meeting Wednesday. The Trump administration has been critical of California’s “bad environmental laws,” blaming them for exacerbating wildfires.

“I say to the governor, or whoever is going to be the governor of California, you better get your act together,” Trump said, according to the Los Angeles Times. “We’re just not going to continue to pay the kind of money we’re paying because of fires that should never be to the extent.”

“It’s a disgraceful thing. Old trees are sitting there, rotting and dry. And instead of cleaning it up, they don’t touch them,” Trump continued. “I think California ought to get their act together and clean up their forests and manage their forests.” < href="https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/18/donald-trump-ryan-zinke-california-wildfires/">read more

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